Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-11 Thread Stan Halpin
Haven't ordered yet, will wait a decent interval, say a week or two. No need to 
be an early adopter . . .

Actually, I need to factor in the purchase of new computer at the same time. 
But am pretty sure I'll have one before the end of the year.

stan
  
On Oct 11, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Not gonna happen in this household, no...
 
 On 10/8/2013 5:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Anybody else order one yet?  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still, relative 
 AF speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my curiosity at the 
 moment.
 
 Jack
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:07 AM
 Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
 
 Thanks.
 
 That looks rather  impressive.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 
 In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
 Pssst:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
 product-highlights
 
 In  case anyone missed it.
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404  error.
 : )
 
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME  III.
 
 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 :  )
 
 It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say  more than one correction.  gs
 George  Sinos
 
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com
 
 
 On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Darren
 
  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.
 
 Multi-pattern white  balance
 
 When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the  image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.
 
 Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of the
 same  image.
 
 I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where  you
 may have several types of light in the same  image.
 
  gs
 
 George Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW file.
 IF
 that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because  it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at each
 preset white  balance).
 
 Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it
 OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).
 
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can  be disabled.  gs
 George  Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.
 
 On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters
 apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:
 
  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...
 
 
 
  There is,  actually:
 
  http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights
 
  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at  8.3FPS
 
 
 
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  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
  ++
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman

Right :-).

On 10/8/2013 7:59 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ricoh is doing things right.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Pentax products have by recent tradition shipped just after the Christmas
buying season.  That the K-3 will ship in time for the major buying season
in both the Christian world and Japan is simply astounding.


On 10/7/2013 7:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to
work
out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:


The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
lifted.
Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found
at:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
after it is uploaded.

Not there yet.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:


Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.


DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??

Dave


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:


Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack



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24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:


What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-10 Thread Boris Liberman

Not gonna happen in this household, no...

On 10/8/2013 5:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Anybody else order one yet?  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still, relative AF 
speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my curiosity at the moment.

Jack


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To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

Thanks.

That looks rather  impressive.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
product-highlights

In  case anyone missed it.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

AND now the page is a 404  error.
: )



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

wrote:

Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower of
the PRIME  III.

I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is for
this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it is
probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least for
a week or two).
:  )

It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use the
Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a corresponding
jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

that should say  more than one correction.  gs
George  Sinos

  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Darren

  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.

Multi-pattern white  balance

When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such as
sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
automatically and the  image is separated into different areas. White
balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.

Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of the

same  image.


I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies to
jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where  you
may have several types of light in the same  image.

  gs

George Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

wrote:

I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image in
different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which is
very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW file.

IF

that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because  it
won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at each
preset white  balance).

Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it

OFF

and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless you
are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).



  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com

wrote:

The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo sounds
interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is something
that can  be disabled.  gs
George  Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

wrote:

Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.

On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters

apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:

Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:


  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...




  There is,  actually:

  http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at  8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Bill

On 08/10/2013 10:53 AM, Walt wrote:
Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to 
scrape together the money for the camera, I'm also going to have to 
come up with the money for a computer that's capable of handling the 
files with relative ease.


I did the computer thing earlier this year. It's quite amazing how fast 
a 6 core processor and 16gb of ram are when coupled with solid state 
drives can be.
Make sure you buy a good mother board. A lot of people cheap out there, 
and then wonder why things don't work as expected.



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Bill

On 08/10/2013 11:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I have a K20D and you know in spite of beating the crap out of it, I 
love it.  The K-5 /was/ a significant upgrade.  If the specifications 
are true, and the Image quality holds up, this could be the Game 
Changer that the each new Pentax has been hyped as since the 
introduction of the K10D.


Thom Hogan (apparently some sort of Nikon guru) is calling it the Pentax 
D400, and seems quite impressed with it.


bill

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:23:31 -0600 Bill wrote:

Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to scrape 
together the money for the camera, I'm also going to have to come up with the 
money for a computer that's capable of 
handling the files with relative ease.

I did the computer thing earlier this year. It's quite amazing how fast a 6 
core processor and 16gb of ram are when coupled with solid state drives can be.
Make sure you buy a good mother board. A lot of people cheap out there, and 
then wonder why things don't work as expected.

Indeed, I retired my 6 yr old iMac in favor of the macbook-PRO earlier this 
year.
It has a 4 core I7, 16Gb of RAM and 512Gb of solid-state disk.

Using Lightroom-4 has been a delight ever since :-)

I am quite ready for the K3, but will probably wait a few months, to get the 
wrinkles out of the firmware,
and perhaps the price to drop a little, allthough $1300 seems VERY reasonable 
for the body.
(wonder how they are going to translate that to euros this time :-)

Regards, JvW


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Since the computers--even the laptop--are K-3-ready, the K-3 itself
won't join the family in the near future.

Yonnie

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:23:31 -0600 Bill wrote:

Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to scrape 
together the money for the camera, I'm also going to have to come up with 
the money for a computer that's capable of
 handling the files with relative ease.

I did the computer thing earlier this year. It's quite amazing how fast a 6 
core processor and 16gb of ram are when coupled with solid state drives can 
be.
Make sure you buy a good mother board. A lot of people cheap out there, and 
then wonder why things don't work as expected.

 Indeed, I retired my 6 yr old iMac in favor of the macbook-PRO earlier this 
 year.
 It has a 4 core I7, 16Gb of RAM and 512Gb of solid-state disk.

 Using Lightroom-4 has been a delight ever since :-)

 I am quite ready for the K3, but will probably wait a few months, to get the 
 wrinkles out of the firmware,
 and perhaps the price to drop a little, allthough $1300 seems VERY reasonable 
 for the body.
 (wonder how they are going to translate that to euros this time :-)

 Regards, JvW


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
As long as the camera still takes Pentax glass,  does it matter?

Marnie aka Doe :-)  Truly curious. 

In a  message dated 10/8/2013 10:27:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
l...@red4est.com  writes:
Haven't you people been paying attention.  Pentax is  doomed.
I'm willing to bet that by this time next year, Pentax will no  longer
exist as a company.

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:44:08PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 As long as the camera still takes Pentax glass,  does it matter?
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)  Truly curious. 

I was making a joke.  Pentax no longer exists as a company now.
It is merely a brand of Ricoh.

 
 In a  message dated 10/8/2013 10:27:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
 l...@red4est.com  writes:
 Haven't you people been paying attention.  Pentax is  doomed.
 I'm willing to bet that by this time next year, Pentax will no  longer
 exist as a company.
 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
So obviously it doesn't matter -- that it is  just a brand.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  I am glad that Pentax finally  found a home that 
appreciates it. It seemed to, for years, to be drifting from  one home to 
another.

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l...@red4est.com writes:
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:44:08PM  -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 As long as the camera still takes Pentax  glass,  does it matter?
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)  Truly  curious. 

I was making a joke.  Pentax no longer exists as a company  now.
It is merely a brand of Ricoh.  


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still, relative AF 
speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my curiosity at the moment.
 
Jack


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Thanks.

That looks rather  impressive.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
product-highlights

In  case anyone missed it.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404  error.
 : )



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME  III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 :  )

 It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say  more than one correction.  gs
 George  Sinos
 
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Darren

  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.

 Multi-pattern white  balance

 When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the  image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of the 
same  image.

 I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where  you
 may have several types of light in the same  image.

  gs

 George Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com  
wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW file. 
IF
 that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because  it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at each
 preset white  balance).

 Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it  
OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).



  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  
wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can  be disabled.  gs
 George  Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com  
wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.

 On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters 
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:

  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...



  There is,  actually:

  http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at  8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Anybody else order one yet?  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still, relative AF 
 speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my curiosity at the 
 moment.

 Jack


 - Original Message -
 From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:07 AM
 Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

 Thanks.

 That looks rather  impressive.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)

 In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
 Pssst:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
 product-highlights

 In  case anyone missed it.


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404  error.
 : )



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME  III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 :  )

 It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say  more than one correction.  gs
 George  Sinos
 
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Darren

  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.

 Multi-pattern white  balance

 When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the  image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of the
 same  image.

 I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where  you
 may have several types of light in the same  image.

  gs

 George Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW file.
 IF
 that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because  it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at each
 preset white  balance).

 Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it
 OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).



  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can  be disabled.  gs
 George  Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.

 On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters
 apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:

  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...



  There is,  actually:

  http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at  8.3FPS



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  ++
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
I haven't asked my wife (shudder) yet. 

Jack 8=\



From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs


Anybody else order one yet?  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still, relative AF 
 speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my curiosity at the 
 moment.

 Jack


 - Original Message -
 From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:07 AM
 Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

 Thanks.

 That looks rather  impressive.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)

 In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
 Pssst:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
 product-highlights

 In  case anyone missed it.


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404  error.
 : )



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME  III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 :  )

 It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say  more than one correction.  gs
 George  Sinos
 
  http://www.georgesphotos.net/
  http://www.georgesinos.com/


 On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Darren

  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.

 Multi-pattern white  balance

 When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the  image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of the
 same  image.

 I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where  you
 may have several types of light in the same  image.

  gs

 George Sinos
  
  http://www.georgesphotos.net/
  http://www.georgesinos.com/


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW file.
 IF
 that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because  it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at each
 preset white  balance).

 Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it
 OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).



  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can  be disabled.  gs
 George  Sinos
  
  http://www.georgesphotos.net/
  http://www.georgesinos.com/


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.

 On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters
 apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:

  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...



  There is,  actually:

  http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at  8.3FPS



  --
  Cheers

  Brian

  ++
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling
Pentax products have by recent tradition shipped just after the 
Christmas buying season.  That the K-3 will ship in time for the major 
buying season in both the Christian world and Japan is simply astounding.


On 10/7/2013 7:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to work
out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
lifted.
Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
after it is uploaded.

Not there yet.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??

Dave

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack



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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Face it: this camera is pretty astounding. If Ricoh has anything to do
with this event, then we have very good times to look forward to.

I was just reviewing the expanded feature pages. Just about every
feature where I ever thought it would be nice if ... they've
addressed. Even completely stock, tried-and-proven stuff like
center-weighted metering has been improved on (you can select the
radius now). You can control a more restrictive part of the AF square
to restrict auto-select to.

My K20D has reason to feel uneasy. _This_ is an upgrade. I already
contacted my pusher to arrange a hands-on. I need to see the AF in
action, but it's almost a slam dunk.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pentax products have by recent tradition shipped just after the Christmas
 buying season.  That the K-3 will ship in time for the major buying season
 in both the Christian world and Japan is simply astounding.


 On 10/7/2013 7:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
 Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
 of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
 to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to
 work
 out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


 On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
 lifted.
 Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

 which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found
 at:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
 after it is uploaded.

 Not there yet.



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Walt
Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to 
scrape together the money for the camera, I'm also going to have to come 
up with the money for a computer that's capable of handling the files 
with relative ease.


[Grumble.]

Ah, well, waddayagonnado.

-- Walt


On 10/8/2013 11:39 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Face it: this camera is pretty astounding. If Ricoh has anything to do
with this event, then we have very good times to look forward to.

I was just reviewing the expanded feature pages. Just about every
feature where I ever thought it would be nice if ... they've
addressed. Even completely stock, tried-and-proven stuff like
center-weighted metering has been improved on (you can select the
radius now). You can control a more restrictive part of the AF square
to restrict auto-select to.

My K20D has reason to feel uneasy. _This_ is an upgrade. I already
contacted my pusher to arrange a hands-on. I need to see the AF in
action, but it's almost a slam dunk.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Pentax products have by recent tradition shipped just after the Christmas
buying season.  That the K-3 will ship in time for the major buying season
in both the Christian world and Japan is simply astounding.


On 10/7/2013 7:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to
work
out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
lifted.
Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found
at:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
after it is uploaded.

Not there yet.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??

Dave

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack



- Original Message -
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ricoh is doing things right.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pentax products have by recent tradition shipped just after the Christmas
 buying season.  That the K-3 will ship in time for the major buying season
 in both the Christian world and Japan is simply astounding.


 On 10/7/2013 7:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
 Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
 of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
 to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to
 work
 out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


 On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
 lifted.
 Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

 which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found
 at:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
 after it is uploaded.

 Not there yet.



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling
I have a K20D and you know in spite of beating the crap out of it, I 
love it.  The K-5 /was/ a significant upgrade.  If the specifications 
are true, and the Image quality holds up, this could be the Game Changer 
that the each new Pentax has been hyped as since the introduction of the 
K10D.


On 10/8/2013 12:39 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Face it: this camera is pretty astounding. If Ricoh has anything to do
with this event, then we have very good times to look forward to.

I was just reviewing the expanded feature pages. Just about every
feature where I ever thought it would be nice if ... they've
addressed. Even completely stock, tried-and-proven stuff like
center-weighted metering has been improved on (you can select the
radius now). You can control a more restrictive part of the AF square
to restrict auto-select to.

My K20D has reason to feel uneasy. _This_ is an upgrade. I already
contacted my pusher to arrange a hands-on. I need to see the AF in
action, but it's almost a slam dunk.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Pentax products have by recent tradition shipped just after the Christmas
buying season.  That the K-3 will ship in time for the major buying season
in both the Christian world and Japan is simply astounding.


On 10/7/2013 7:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to
work
out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
lifted.
Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found
at:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
after it is uploaded.

Not there yet.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??

Dave

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack



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24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 01:17:38PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
 I have a K20D and you know in spite of beating the crap out of it, I
 love it.  The K-5 /was/ a significant upgrade.  If the
 specifications are true, and the Image quality holds up, this could
 be the Game Changer that the each new Pentax has been hyped as since
 the introduction of the K10D.

Haven't you people been paying attention.  Pentax is doomed.
I'm willing to bet that by this time next year, Pentax will no longer
exist as a company.

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 Ricoh is doing things right.

But wait, isn't Pentax doomed since Ricoh made it a brand not a camera company?

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling

Amazing prediction, how do you do it?

On 10/8/2013 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 01:17:38PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:

I have a K20D and you know in spite of beating the crap out of it, I
love it.  The K-5 /was/ a significant upgrade.  If the
specifications are true, and the Image quality holds up, this could
be the Game Changer that the each new Pentax has been hyped as since
the introduction of the K10D.

Haven't you people been paying attention.  Pentax is doomed.
I'm willing to bet that by this time next year, Pentax will no longer
exist as a company.




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling

Asahi Optical is doomed.  Pentax' fait is still up in the air.

On 10/8/2013 2:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Ricoh is doing things right.

But wait, isn't Pentax doomed since Ricoh made it a brand not a camera company?

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Peter Loveday
Yup :)

Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Anybody else order one yet?  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There is so much new and inviting to look forward to, but still,
relative AF speed and sensitivity performance are the center of my
curiosity at the moment.

 Jack


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 Thanks.

 That looks rather  impressive.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)

 In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
 Pssst:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
 product-highlights

 In  case anyone missed it.


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404  error.
 : )



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower
of
 the PRIME  III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is
for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it
is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least
for
 a week or two).
 :  )

 It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use
the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a
corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
wrote:
 that should say  more than one correction.  gs
 George  Sinos
 
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Hi Darren

  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.

 Multi-pattern white  balance

 When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such
as
 sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the  image is separated into different areas.
White
 balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the
different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of
the
 same  image.

 I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies
to
 jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or
on as
 a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where 
you
 may have several types of light in the same  image.

  gs

 George Sinos
  
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  www.GeorgeSinos.com


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pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image
in
 different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which
is
 very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW
file.
 IF
 that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because 
it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at
each
 preset white  balance).

 Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really
understand how
 it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with
it
 OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless
you
 are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).



  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo
sounds
 interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is
something
 that can  be disabled.  gs
 George  Sinos
  
  www.GeorgesPhotos.net
  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman
bori...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.

 On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters
 apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:

  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...



  There is,  actually:

 
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

Asahi Optical is doomed.  Pentax' fait is still up in the air.

If may be a fait accompli.
 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread Marco Alpert
On Oct 8, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Anybody else order one yet?  Bob S.


Not yet, but given that I'm still shooting with the *istDs that I bought in 
2005 (and originally brought me here), this may be the one that finally retires 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling
That bump kind of annoys me, did a camera primarily designed for still 
photography need a head phone jack so much that they had to put it in a 
bump that looks like it harms the ergonomics of the camera?  I guess so. 
The was I see it is if there had been room to shoehorn it in fine, but 
tacking it on, well that's just tacky.


On 10/7/2013 11:13 AM, CollinB wrote:

http://www.cameraegg.org/pentax-k-3-full-images-and-price/

I see not only a mic jack but also a headphone jack.
That's what sits under the bump!





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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling
And it is my fate to proclaim, Dammed spell checker.  (Where the hell 
did it get that suggestion from).


On 10/8/2013 6:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


Asahi Optical is doomed.  Pentax' fait is still up in the air.

If may be a  accompli.
  



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Looks totally cool.

 Two K-5's that we have in our household still boast more pixels than
one K-3 (not being serious here).

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2013-10-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Wheee! I now believe that there is a K-3. Now where is that dang money tree?

Yonnie

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Loveday

Synchronization speed: 1/180 sec


oh FFS :-/  Still?!

Otherwise... looks awesome.


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:


Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Zos Xavius
No focus peaking?

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 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 No focus peaking?

I would like that too!

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread George Sinos
The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
that can be disabled.  gs
George Sinos

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On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

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 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
preset white balance).

Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can be disabled.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread CollinB
What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread George Sinos
Hi Darren

This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page.

Multi-pattern white balance

When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as
sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized
automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White
balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different
light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction.

Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same image.

I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to
jpgs.  But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
a creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you
may have several types of light in the same image.

gs

George Sinos

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www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
 that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
 preset white balance).

 Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
 implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can be disabled.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread George Sinos
that should say more than one correction.  gs
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www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Darren

 This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page.

 Multi-pattern white balance

 When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different
 light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same 
 image.

 I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you
 may have several types of light in the same image.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
 that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
 preset white balance).

 Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
 implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can be disabled.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks for the clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
probably also want the ability to turn that off but it will be
interesting to see what sort of images it produces.
It is amazing to me what is possible with the in-camera horsepower of
the PRIME III.

I will be very interested to see what the dynamic range, etc. is for
this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to the K-5/II/IIs it is
probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on the market (at least for
a week or two).
: )

It is worth remembering that other camera manufacturers also use the
Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so will be seeing a corresponding
jump in *their* capabilities sooner, rather than later.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say more than one correction.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Darren

 This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page.

 Multi-pattern white balance

 When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different
 light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same 
 image.

 I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you
 may have several types of light in the same image.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
 that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
 preset white balance).

 Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
 implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can be disabled.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
AND now the page is a 404 error.
: )



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 : )

 It is worth remembering that other camera manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner, rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say more than one correction.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Darren

 This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page.

 Multi-pattern white balance

 When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different
 light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same 
 image.

 I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you
 may have several types of light in the same image.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
 that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
 preset white balance).

 Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
 implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can be disabled.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread P.J. Alling

Seems that someone at Ricoh revealed that a bit prematurely.

Page removed in something less than 2 hours.  So did anyone save a 
screen shot?




On 10/7/2013 7:06 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-specs




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Tomorrow it should be back.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404 error.
 : )

Alex

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
I saved the whole page on my home computer before leaving for work,
but I'm at work now.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:26 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seems that someone at Ricoh revealed that a bit prematurely.

 Page removed in something less than 2 hours.  So did anyone save a screen
 shot?



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 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-specs



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread P.J. Alling

24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Not mentioned in the specs, but a big question by many ANSWERED:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29329237@N07/10137365063/

Yee-HAW!

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:33 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.


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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Zos Xavius
=) YEEE HAW!

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 Not mentioned in the specs, but a big question by many ANSWERED:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/29329237@N07/10137365063/

 Yee-HAW!

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 wrote:
 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.


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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bruce Walker
I see that 14-bit RAW is a choice for video recording. That's
something that folks have been hacking the firmware of Canons to get.
Nice!


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Eactivist
I am actually starting to consider Pentax  again.

OTOH, probably be ages before is actually buyable. Unless Ricoh  has 
changed all that.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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I see that 14-bit RAW is a choice for video recording.  That's
something that folks have been hacking the firmware of Canons to  get.
Nice!  


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread P.J. Alling
Interesting, almost all of the images that show the back of the camera 
have Ricoh under the viewing screen where this one is labeled Pentax.  
Not that that changes the functionality of the camera.


On 10/7/2013 9:35 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Not mentioned in the specs, but a big question by many ANSWERED:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29329237@N07/10137365063/

Yee-HAW!

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:33 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.


On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Reportedly, PENTAX below the LCD on pre-production units and RICOH
on production units. I think it is a sign of how proud Ricoh is of
this camera.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting, almost all of the images that show the back of the camera have
 Ricoh under the viewing screen where this one is labeled Pentax.  Not that
 that changes the functionality of the camera.


 On 10/7/2013 9:35 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Not mentioned in the specs, but a big question by many ANSWERED:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/29329237@N07/10137365063/

 Yee-HAW!

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:33 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.


 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Jack Davis
Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack

 

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24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
re: dual slots
Dual SD card slots allow for greater memory card flexibility, for
separation of JPG and RAW files, and for use with Eye-fi card and new
FLU card technology.

I wonder if how you use the slots is configurable?

Also regarding the FLUCARD, I found the wording interesting:

With installation of the optional, dedicated 16 GB FLU CARD for
PENTAX in the K-3, the photographer can remotely change settings such
as aperture, shutter speed and ISO, shift the AF focus point, release
the camera shutter, check Liveview image, and browse and download
images to mobile devices and PC. Eye-fi Wireless and standard SDX
Memory cards also compatible.

Note the use of the phrase dedicated 16 GB FLU CARD for PENTAX. It
appears that Pentax and whoever makes FLUCARD have cooperated together
to make a Pentax-SPECIFIC Flucard. (They may do, or be doing, the same
with other manufacturers, but that makes me more hopeful of the
features really working.)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread P.J. Alling

Tethered operation through WiFi. That should make some people happy.

On 10/7/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

re: dual slots
Dual SD card slots allow for greater memory card flexibility, for
separation of JPG and RAW files, and for use with Eye-fi card and new
FLU card technology.

I wonder if how you use the slots is configurable?

Also regarding the FLUCARD, I found the wording interesting:

With installation of the optional, dedicated 16 GB FLU CARD for
PENTAX in the K-3, the photographer can remotely change settings such
as aperture, shutter speed and ISO, shift the AF focus point, release
the camera shutter, check Liveview image, and browse and download
images to mobile devices and PC. Eye-fi Wireless and standard SDX
Memory cards also compatible.

Note the use of the phrase dedicated 16 GB FLU CARD for PENTAX. It
appears that Pentax and whoever makes FLUCARD have cooperated together
to make a Pentax-SPECIFIC Flucard. (They may do, or be doing, the same
with other manufacturers, but that makes me more hopeful of the
features really working.)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack



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24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights

In case anyone missed it.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404 error.
 : )



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 : )

 It is worth remembering that other camera manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner, rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say more than one correction.  gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Darren

 This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page.

 Multi-pattern white balance

 When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different
 light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same 
 image.

 I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you
 may have several types of light in the same image.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
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 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
 that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
 preset white balance).

 Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
 implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can be disabled.  gs
 George Sinos
 
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 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters 
 apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Looks interesting. Hopefully it will be all that everyone has been hoping for 
... other than full frame, of course. I guess Cotty gets to wear his hat 
another year...  ;-)

G


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 Pssst:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights
 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Ooooh. Under Drive Modes:  Mirror up (standard, remote)

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 Looks interesting. Hopefully it will be all that everyone has been hoping for 
 ... other than full frame, of course. I guess Cotty gets to wear his hat 
 another year...  ;-)

 G


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
That pleases me greatly. A huge advantage in the studio and even in the field 
using a hotspot for my laptop.

Really excited about this camera. It fits my needs perfectly, at least on 
paper. However, I may want to let the pioneers take some arrows before I buy. 

Paul
On Oct 7, 2013, at 10:31 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tethered operation through WiFi. That should make some people happy.
 
 On 10/7/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
 re: dual slots
 Dual SD card slots allow for greater memory card flexibility, for
 separation of JPG and RAW files, and for use with Eye-fi card and new
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 Also regarding the FLUCARD, I found the wording interesting:
 
 With installation of the optional, dedicated 16 GB FLU CARD for
 PENTAX in the K-3, the photographer can remotely change settings such
 as aperture, shutter speed and ISO, shift the AF focus point, release
 the camera shutter, check Liveview image, and browse and download
 images to mobile devices and PC. Eye-fi Wireless and standard SDX
 Memory cards also compatible.
 
 Note the use of the phrase dedicated 16 GB FLU CARD for PENTAX. It
 appears that Pentax and whoever makes FLUCARD have cooperated together
 to make a Pentax-SPECIFIC Flucard. (They may do, or be doing, the same
 with other manufacturers, but that makes me more hopeful of the
 features really working.)
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?
 
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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.
 
 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:
 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...
 
 
 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Eactivist
Thanks.

That looks rather  impressive.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 10/7/2013  7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
bruce.wal...@gmail.com  writes:
Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!
product-highlights

In  case anyone missed it.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy  pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 AND now the page is a 404  error.
 : )



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16  AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Thanks for the  clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
 probably also want  the ability to turn that off but it will be
 interesting to see what  sort of images it produces.
 It is amazing to me what is possible  with the in-camera horsepower of
 the PRIME  III.

 I will be very interested to see what the dynamic  range, etc. is for
 this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to  the K-5/II/IIs it is
 probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on  the market (at least for
 a week or two).
 :  )

 It is worth remembering that other camera  manufacturers also use the
 Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so  will be seeing a corresponding
 jump in *their* capabilities sooner,  rather than later.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM,  George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 that should say  more than one correction.  gs
 George  Sinos
 
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 On Mon, Oct  7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Darren

  This is from the highlights page of the K-3  page.

 Multi-pattern white  balance

 When shooting scenes that  include multiple light sources, such as
 sunlight and shade  or flash, light sources are recognized
 automatically and the  image is separated into different areas. White
 balance is  adjusted separately in each area according to the different
  light sources to achieve optimal color  reproduction.

 Sounds like it makes more  than correction in different parts of the 
same  image.

 I agree, like most other  adjustments, it probably only applies to
 jpgs.  But, it  sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
 a  creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where  you
 may have several types of light in the same  image.

  gs

 George Sinos
  
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  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com  
wrote:
 I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from  the RAW image in
 different white balance configurations  easily, in camera (which is
 very cool). ALL of the  information is always there in the RAW file. 
IF
 that is  correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because  it
 won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different  JPEGs at each
 preset white  balance).

 Also, the anti-alias  IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
 vibrations, so  I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
 it  can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
  implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it  
OFF
 and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire  problem (unless you
 are shooting a lot of wedding  dresses or  something).



  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com  
wrote:
 The multiple white balance corrections in a  single photo sounds
 interesting from a technical  standpoint.  I hope that is something
 that can  be disabled.  gs
 George  Sinos
  
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  www.GeorgeSinos.com


  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com  
wrote:
 Yes, I see it now. Thanks,  Brian.

 On Mon,  Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters 
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting Boris Liberman  bori...@gmail.com:

  Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME  III...



  There is,  actually:

  http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

  in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at  8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread CollinB
http://www.cameraegg.org/pentax-k-3-full-images-and-price/

I see not only a mic jack but also a headphone jack.  
That's what sits under the bump!


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If they've done it right, the camera creates its own secure WiFi hotspot. That 
way, compatible devices can hook up to it directly without having to manage 
network configuration. 

Godfrey

 On Oct 7, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That pleases me greatly. A huge advantage in the studio and even in the field 
 using a hotspot for my laptop.

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread George Sinos
That's what I like about the wi-fi Mobi card. gs
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 If they've done it right, the camera creates its own secure WiFi hotspot. 
 That way, compatible devices can hook up to it directly without having to 
 manage network configuration.

 Godfrey

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Pretty much what I said. That's how Olympus has implemented wireless control 
for the E-M1. Saw it demonstrated, it's impressive. 

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 If they've done it right the camera acts as a stand-alone computing/network
 device and not just a peripheral or disconnected entity.

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Re: K-3: And here WERE your OFFICIAL specs...

2013-10-07 Thread Rick Womer
404 errors on all of the Ricoh K-3 links...
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...


There is, actually:

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

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Re: K-3: And here WERE your OFFICIAL specs...

2013-10-07 Thread Bruce Walker
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights

You're welcome. :-)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 404 errors on all of the Ricoh K-3 links...

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...


 There is, actually:

 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

 in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bruce Walker
According to the Flu website that's how it works. All configuration is
done through the card-in-the-camera's web server and through a couple
of camera menus.

I'm not certain how preview tethering is configured, but they
mentioned an FTP client so it can at least push images to an FTP
server. It shouldn't be too hard to push images through to Lightroom
that way.


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 If they've done it right, the camera creates its own secure WiFi hotspot. 
 That way, compatible devices can hook up to it directly without having to 
 manage network configuration.

 Godfrey

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Re: K-3: And here WERE your OFFICIAL specs...

2013-10-07 Thread Doug Brewer

On 10/7/13 12:04 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights

You're welcome. :-)

Thanks for capping that, Bruce. Would love to get my hands on one.

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Looks interesting. Hopefully it will be all that everyone has been
hoping for ... other than full frame, of course. I guess Cotty gets to
wear his hat another year...  ;-)

Well, I guess when the FF K-1 is released in 2015, it'll probably be
badged as a Ricoh - so the hat will stay on the plate!

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bill

On 07/10/2013 5:06 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-specs


You got a link that works?

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com:


On 07/10/2013 5:06 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-specs


You got a link that works?




Bruce posted this earlier:

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bill

On 07/10/2013 8:43 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights

In case anyone missed it.



You are what is known as a God.
Thank you

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Carlos R.

El 07/10/2013 23:50, Bill escribió:

On 07/10/2013 8:43 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights


In case anyone missed it.



You are what is known as a God.
Thank you

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There is some more info in this link (in Spanish);

http://www.pentax-k3.com/

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??

Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:
 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes lifted.
Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
after it is uploaded.

Not there yet.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes lifted.
 Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

 which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
 after it is uploaded.

 Not there yet.



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 Subject: Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
16 page brochure: http://issuu.com/cjmphoto/docs/k-3_issuu_master_preview#


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes lifted.
 Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

 which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
 after it is uploaded.

 Not there yet.



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thought I saw 8 bit?

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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to 
work out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes lifted.
Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
after it is uploaded.

Not there yet.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??

Dave

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Thought I saw 8 bit?

Jack



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24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
The brochure shows the K-3 with the O-GPS1 fitted to it, so that
answers one big question that I had.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 16 page brochure: http://issuu.com/cjmphoto/docs/k-3_issuu_master_preview#


 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes lifted.
 Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

 which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
 after it is uploaded.

 Not there yet.



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

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 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Will wait when I can actually afford one and also wait for everyone to work
 out all the issues it will have when it hits the market.


 On 10/7/2013 6:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Pardon me while I clean the drool out of my keyboard:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/10144439184/

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 The official page is back and it is Officially Announced. Embargoes
 lifted.
 Now we await the dropping of the official MANUAL:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/support/download/manual/

 which, if their current filenaming conventions hold, should be found at:
 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/man-pdf/k-3.pdf
 after it is uploaded.

 Not there yet.



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
 including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
 present in buffer memory.

 DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
 PSEL 9 and PSCS??

 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thought I saw 8 bit?

 Jack



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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.

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 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread P.J. Alling
I probably shouldn't mention this, but the links work, and the silver 
and black version is gorgeous.


On 10/7/2013 10:43 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Pssst:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#!product-highlights

In case anyone missed it.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

AND now the page is a 404 error.
: )



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Thanks for the clarification, George. I agree with you; I would
probably also want the ability to turn that off but it will be
interesting to see what sort of images it produces.
It is amazing to me what is possible with the in-camera horsepower of
the PRIME III.

I will be very interested to see what the dynamic range, etc. is for
this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to the K-5/II/IIs it is
probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on the market (at least for
a week or two).
: )

It is worth remembering that other camera manufacturers also use the
Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so will be seeing a corresponding
jump in *their* capabilities sooner, rather than later.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

that should say more than one correction.  gs
George Sinos

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On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Darren

This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page.

Multi-pattern white balance

When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as
sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized
automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White
balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different
light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction.

Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same image.

I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to
jpgs.  But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as
a creative tool.  I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you
may have several types of light in the same image.

gs

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I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in
different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is
very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF
that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it
won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each
preset white balance).

Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor
vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how
it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is
implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF
and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you
are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something).



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The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds
interesting from a technical standpoint.  I hope that is something
that can be disabled.  gs
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On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:


Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III...



There is, actually:

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Uh, I went to DPReview and saw the silver/black version with a silver finish 
lens and ... sorry, it looked hideous to my eye. 
The all black version is much nicer looking. YMMV

G

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 I probably shouldn't mention this, but the links work, and the silver and 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Amazon says This item will be released on November 30, 2013.

Regarding the Silver  Black version, apparently some people can't be
bothered to read the messages or click the links upthread before
posting. (See my drool in keyboard post).
: )

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 Uh, I went to DPReview and saw the silver/black version with a silver finish 
 lens and ... sorry, it looked hideous to my eye.
 The all black version is much nicer looking. YMMV

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Brendan MacRae
crap. all of 87 actuations on the K-5IIs and i want the new camera
(mostly for video).

willpower, i'm counting on you.

FML ...

-Brendan

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Amazon says This item will be released on November 30, 2013.

 Regarding the Silver  Black version, apparently some people can't be
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 posting. (See my drool in keyboard post).
 : )

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 Uh, I went to DPReview and saw the silver/black version with a silver finish 
 lens and ... sorry, it looked hideous to my eye.
 The all black version is much nicer looking. YMMV

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 I probably shouldn't mention this, but the links work, and the silver and 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Christine Nielsen
Ha... I recently got one, too.  It's all good, though.  Let the early
adopters work out the kinks, I say.

:)
-c

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 crap. all of 87 actuations on the K-5IIs and i want the new camera
 (mostly for video).

 willpower, i'm counting on you.

 FML ...

 -Brendan

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Amazon says This item will be released on November 30, 2013.

 Regarding the Silver  Black version, apparently some people can't be
 bothered to read the messages or click the links upthread before
 posting. (See my drool in keyboard post).
 : )

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Uh, I went to DPReview and saw the silver/black version with a silver 
 finish lens and ... sorry, it looked hideous to my eye.
 The all black version is much nicer looking. YMMV

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 On Oct 7, 2013, at 4:23 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I probably shouldn't mention this, but the links work, and the silver and 
 black version is gorgeous.


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RE: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Tanya Love
Agreed, this is so frustrating, and a big disappointment - especially when
everything else is so great.  The faux-tethering is a bit crap too.  :(

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 Synchronization speed: 1/180 sec

oh FFS :-/  Still?!

Otherwise... looks awesome.


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http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-specs

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RE: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Tanya Love
The pictures here confirm this, just as my source here told me a few weeks
back. :)

http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_

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Reportedly, PENTAX below the LCD on pre-production units and RICOH
on production units. I think it is a sign of how proud Ricoh is of this
camera.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
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 Interesting, almost all of the images that show the back of the camera 
 have Ricoh under the viewing screen where this one is labeled Pentax.  
 Not that that changes the functionality of the camera.


 On 10/7/2013 9:35 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Not mentioned in the specs, but a big question by many ANSWERED:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/29329237@N07/10137365063/

 Yee-HAW!

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 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.


 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:

 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...



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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
The camera is branded Pentax. I believe you said it was going to be a Ricoh.




Paul via phone

 On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 The pictures here confirm this, just as my source here told me a few weeks
 back. :)
 
 http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_
 
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 Reportedly, PENTAX below the LCD on pre-production units and RICOH
 on production units. I think it is a sign of how proud Ricoh is of this
 camera.
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Interesting, almost all of the images that show the back of the camera 
 have Ricoh under the viewing screen where this one is labeled Pentax.  
 Not that that changes the functionality of the camera.
 
 
 On 10/7/2013 9:35 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
 
 Not mentioned in the specs, but a big question by many ANSWERED:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/29329237@N07/10137365063/
 
 Yee-HAW!
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:33 AM, P.J. Alling 
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 24mp 14 bit raw files, you'll need all of that speed and more.
 
 
 On 10/7/2013 9:02 AM, CollinB wrote:
 
 What strikes me most is USB3.  That's fast transfer.
 Now ... if will transfer USB after shooting ...
 
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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bill

On 07/10/2013 4:30 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Native support for both PENTAX PEF and Adobe DNG 14 bit RAW files,
including the ability to retrieve RAW data from JPG files if still
present in buffer memory.

DNG being DNG i assume these will be read by my older programs, LR4
PSEL 9 and PSCS??


An old computer I fired up the other day has Photoshop 7 (pre CS, the 
first Photoshop to have a raw converter available, I believe.) on it. I 
fed it's raw converter a K5 DNG, which it opened with no problem, other 
than being very slow.


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bill

On 07/10/2013 5:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

16 page brochure: http://issuu.com/cjmphoto/docs/k-3_issuu_master_preview#




Anyone who's underwear isn't stained after reading that isn't alive.

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Bill

On 07/10/2013 7:16 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

Agreed, this is so frustrating, and a big disappointment - especially when
everything else is so great.  The faux-tethering is a bit crap too.  :(


The faux tethering is brilliant if I read this review correctly. You 
need a dongle to make it work with a computer. As long as the camera 
supports full tethering, this should be a successful feature for you. 
Effectively wireless tethering.


bill

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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, it is then came to pass that Boris has looked at the page and his 
underwear hasn't sustained any changes. Alas, there will be no more 
pages that Boris could set his gaze upon.


On 10/8/2013 6:18 AM, Bill wrote:

On 07/10/2013 5:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

16 page brochure:
http://issuu.com/cjmphoto/docs/k-3_issuu_master_preview#




Anyone who's underwear isn't stained after reading that isn't alive.

bill




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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 09:18:01PM -0600, Bill wrote:
 On 07/10/2013 5:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
 16 page brochure: http://issuu.com/cjmphoto/docs/k-3_issuu_master_preview#
 
 
 
 Anyone who's underwear isn't stained after reading that isn't alive.

On this list, that isn't a very good metric.  Half the list probably
had a head start, and most of the rest were likely wearing colored underwear.


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Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-07 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013, Darren Addy wrote:

 Word is that it ships in November (that would surprise me very much).
 Still, it is intriguing enough and priced reasonably enough that a lot
 of Pentaxians might just hop on that pre-order list and be the first
 to get it WHENEVER it actually ships.

Available for $1300 body only, $1650 w/18-135, $1600 PREMIUM silver
edition with battery grip (body only)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1007545-REG/pentax_15530_k_3_dslr_camera.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1007546-REG/pentax_15541_k_3_dslr_camera_with.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1007547-REG/pentax_15563_k_3_dslr_camera_premium.html
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