Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
On 4/25/2011 03:05, William Robb wrote: Pentax flash control has always sucked, so I don't allow it to do anything, I still use a big old Metz 60 CT-2 autoflash, and it gives me stellar results, and is accurate enough that I just shoot, and don't chimp. I cannot confirm or disprove that Pentax flash control sucks, but I agree with the second have of your message, Bill. My Metz flash is very good. I think I lost less shots to blow out than there are fingers on one my hand. And those were my faults as the flash indicates the suitable range whereas I ignored it and got too close to the subject. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
John, were shadow compensation, lens corrections etc ON ? They significantly slow down the camera. 2011/4/24 John Celio n...@neovenator.com: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I experienced flash blow out with my 360 today at our family gathering--surprised the begeezees out of me to say the least--thought either flash or camera was broken. I've never had that happen with previous Pentax cameras. I dialed in all my usual settings I use at my parent's house only to get flash blow out with the K-5. I had to dial down much more than usual. I plan to test the k-5 with the flash this week. Cheers, Christine This is one reason i gave up on the 360 K-10 combo for indoor work. I use the D200 and SB800 which i find is much more user friendly, but still adjustments need to be made, but less so than with the pentax combo. Dave - Original Message - From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
I always wonder if my hatred of flash is due to having used Pentaxes all my life. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:58 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I always wonder if my hatred of flash is due to having used Pentaxes all my life. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:58 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
I'm pretty sure I have all those correction/compensation features turned off, but I will check that. Thanks for the tip. John -- http://www.jacelio.com Original Message Subject: Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com Date: Mon, April 25, 2011 12:03 am To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net John, were shadow compensation, lens corrections etc ON ? They significantly slow down the camera. 2011/4/24 John Celio n...@neovenator.com: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
On Apr 24, 2011, at 2:58 PM, John Celio wrote: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. It seems to me that it won't show the preview until after it is done writing all of the pictures to flash. In a similar vein, it won't go into video mode until it has finished writing all of the still pictures to flash. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
On 24/04/2011 3:58 PM, John Celio wrote: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Yeah, I've noticed the K5 is slow to write files. I think to fix it, they are going to need to do what Canon has done and start putting dual processors in, one to work the files, one to work the camera. My friend's 7D, which at 18mp is slightly larger than the K5 is very fast, and I believe it has a dual processor. Pentax flash control has always sucked, so I don't allow it to do anything, I still use a big old Metz 60 CT-2 autoflash, and it gives me stellar results, and is accurate enough that I just shoot, and don't chimp. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
The flash blowout is very annoying. I've found I have to stop down more than you mention myself. Knowing that the problem exists though I try to just set things ahead and I'm getting quicker at the adjustments. On 4/24/11 4:58 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints
I experienced flash blow out with my 360 today at our family gathering--surprised the begeezees out of me to say the least--thought either flash or camera was broken. I've never had that happen with previous Pentax cameras. I dialed in all my usual settings I use at my parent's house only to get flash blow out with the K-5. I had to dial down much more than usual. I plan to test the k-5 with the flash this week. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: K-5 at a wedding: My two complaints I shot a wedding in Yosemite National Park yesterday and my K-5 performed admirably. There were two problems I noticed that got on my nerves and may have ruined some pictures. 1. The shot-to-preview time (how long it takes a photo to appear on the screen after it is taken) is painfully long. Granted, these photos are much larger than what I was used to with my K10D (which was pretty quick with the previews), but I really wish Pentax could find some way to speed things up for us chimpers. It is partly because of this delay that my second complaint came about. 2. When shooting indoors with my 540FGZ attached, I had to keep a very close eye on flash exposure in the preview images and constantly dial back the flash output by at least one stop and up to two stops to prevent massive highlight blowout. This bit me in the ass during the cake cutting because I had to be fast, I had to be in close proximity to the table couple, the flash had somehow reset itself to normal output and I couldn't wait for the camera to show me if I was getting the proper exposure. Now, maybe this can be chalked up to Pentax's flash system being not-that-great, or maybe it's just my relative inexperience and lack of foresight, but I wish I had just bumped the ISO way up and shot without flash. Live and learn, I guess. At least I can say with some certainty that those were the only bad shots I took, and I know the bride groom (who are friends) probably won't care that much. It was the second marriage for both of them and the whole thing was pretty casual. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
