Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
Sounds more like Barbra Streisand to me! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > What hubris ... > > Putting the pics on the web "ruins" them. > > Shel > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: J. C. O'Connell >> I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont >> do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your >> screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, >> then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing >> them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: John Celio > >> JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high >> resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my >> laptop >> for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it set >> to a >> super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read >> comfortably. >> >> Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to set up >> >> your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to view it >> comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the >> most-often >> used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If you >> really >> must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller versions >> too. >> You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of your >> visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time >> they >> want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your >> photos >> (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) before >> I >> got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
Thanks. Much appreciated. Paul On Apr 2, 2007, at 9:44 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > if you are interested in the prices of '55's, > search the www.barrett-jackson.com website > as it lists the final prices of all cars > sold this year. the values of the cars are > highly dependent on the level of restoration, > whether they are numbers matching, and > of course, the drive train it has. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:05 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Web Gallery > :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > > > Thanks, good news. I may have to sell my '55 if I don't land a job > soon. > Paul On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:06 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> I think the one you are talking about went for $73K >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> Paul Stenquist >> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:30 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Web Gallery : >> Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... >> >> >> John, >> Do you know what the selling price was for the 56 Chevy BelAir >> Convertible? >> Paul >> On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:24 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont >>> do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your >>> screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, >>> then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing >>> them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. >>> jco >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of >>> John Celio >>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:04 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-Jackson >>> CollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... >>> >>> >>> JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high >>> resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my >>> laptop >>> for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it >>> set >>> to a >>> super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read >>> comfortably. >>> >>> Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to >>> set up >>> >>> your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to >>> view it >>> comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the >>> most-often >>> used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If >>> you >>> really >>> must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller >>> versions >>> too. >>> You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of >>> your >>> visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time >>> they >>> want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your >>> photos >>> (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) >>> before >>> I >>> got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something >>> else. >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
I agree, thats why I didnt want to go any smaller than 1200 pixels wide, it already is degraded even at that resolution, going smaller makes it worse, not even to mention having to convert them to sRGB for PC usage. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:44 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... What hubris ... Putting the pics on the web "ruins" them. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont > do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your > screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, > then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing > them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: John Celio > JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high > resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my > laptop > for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it set > to a > super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read > comfortably. > > Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to set > up > > your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to view > it > comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the > most-often > used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If you > really > must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller versions > too. > You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of your > visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time > they > want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your > photos > (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) before > I > got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: RE: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > What hubris ... > > Putting the pics on the web "ruins" them. > After reading your email and the one from John Celio, I decided I had to go and see what moronity had perpetrated as a display presentation. I have a fairly big desktop, and had to go to display image only to view them, which, given the amateurish nature of the pictures themselves, makes the gallery way more trouble than it is worth. One of my teachers had saying that was along the lines of "if you can't take a good photograph, then make big photographs and perhaps no one will notice how bad they are". This gallery represents that philosophy. I could have been playing Mahjong and gotten more for my time than this. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
- Original Message - From: "John Celio" Subject: Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > JCO wrote: >>I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont >> do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your >> screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, >> then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing >> them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. > > Don't you think that's being rather elitist? > > Hell, why share photos at all if the only people who can view them are > those > with large and expensive monitor setups like yours? > > If this is how you always operate, I don't think I'll bother viewing your > photos, even though, as I said, the ones I looked at were very nice. > HAR! I take it joc can't even do a web presentation without buggering it up? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Web Gallery : Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
What hubris ... Putting the pics on the web "ruins" them. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont > do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your > screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, > then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing > them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: John Celio > JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high > resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my > laptop > for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it set > to a > super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read > comfortably. > > Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to set up > > your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to view it > comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the > most-often > used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If you > really > must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller versions > too. > You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of your > visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time > they > want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your > photos > (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) before > I > got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
if you are interested in the prices of '55's, search the www.barrett-jackson.com website as it lists the final prices of all cars sold this year. the values of the cars are highly dependent on the level of restoration, whether they are numbers matching, and of course, the drive train it has. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... Thanks, good news. I may have to sell my '55 if I don't land a job soon. Paul On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:06 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I think the one you are talking about went for $73K > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:30 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Web Gallery : > Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > > > John, > Do you know what the selling price was for the 56 Chevy BelAir > Convertible? > Paul > On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:24 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont >> do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your >> screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, >> then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing >> them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> John Celio >> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:04 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-Jackson >> CollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... >> >> >> JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high >> resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my >> laptop >> for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it >> set >> to a >> super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read >> comfortably. >> >> Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to >> set up >> >> your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to >> view it >> comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the >> most-often >> used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If you >> really >> must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller versions >> too. >> You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of >> your >> visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time >> they >> want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your >> photos >> (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) >> before >> I >> got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something >> else. >> >> John >> >> -- >> http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
Thanks, good news. I may have to sell my '55 if I don't land a job soon. Paul On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:06 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I think the one you are talking about went for $73K > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:30 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Web Gallery : > Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > > > John, > Do you know what the selling price was for the 56 Chevy BelAir > Convertible? > Paul > On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:24 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont >> do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your >> screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, >> then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing >> them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> John Celio >> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:04 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-Jackson >> CollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... >> >> >> JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high >> resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my >> laptop >> for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it >> set >> to a >> super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read >> comfortably. >> >> Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to >> set up >> >> your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to >> view it >> comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the >> most-often >> used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If you >> really >> must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller versions >> too. >> You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of >> your >> visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time >> they >> want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your >> photos >> (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) >> before >> I >> got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something >> else. >> >> John >> >> -- >> http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Web Gallery : Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
I think the one you are talking about went for $73K jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... John, Do you know what the selling price was for the 56 Chevy BelAir Convertible? Paul On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:24 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont > do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your > screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, > then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing > them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > John Celio > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:04 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-Jackson > CollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... > > > JCO, you may have a large screen or eyes that can handle super-high > resolution, but not everyone is so blessed. I, for instance, use my > laptop > for everything, and it has a 15.4" screen. I don't like having it set > to a > super-high resolution because that makes text too small to read > comfortably. > > Also, one of the first things I learned regarding webdesign is to > set up > > your site so that the greatest number of people will be able to > view it > comfortably. Since my website's stats show 1024x768 being the > most-often > used resolution by my visitors, I design for that resolution. If you > really > must have larger photos, just spend the time to make smaller versions > too. > You may consider it a waste of time, but you'll keep a lot more of > your > visitors if you don't force them to have to scroll around every time > they > want to look at one of your photos. I only looked at a few of your > photos > (which were really nice, by the way. I love many of those cars) > before > I > got tired of having to scroll every time and went on to something > else. > > John > > -- > http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
huh? I bought my video card for $35 new and got the Sony 19" CRT monitor for $135 new old stock on ebay. This stuff THAT I USE isn't state of the art or expensive, your stuff is just very out of date. I suggest you upgrade to higher resolution if you are into digital photography as its NOT expensive to go to 1600x1200 today by any standards, especially if you compare to the cost of digital SLRs and lenses, etc. I cant recommend it high enough, especially if you are still using 1280x960 or less, as it really makes a big difference in viewing and editing photos The reason I dont post the photos any smaller than 1200 pixels wide is I DONT LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK reduced any smaller. Thats not "elitest", thats called artistic integrity. ( although these particualar phots are more documentary than artistic, they still benefit from a minimum image quality to be appreciated IMHO). jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Celio Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Web Gallery :Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach... JCO wrote: >I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont > do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your > screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, > then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing > them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. Don't you think that's being rather elitist? Hell, why share photos at all if the only people who can view them are those with large and expensive monitor setups like yours? If this is how you always operate, I don't think I'll bother viewing your photos, even though, as I said, the ones I looked at were very nice. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Web Gallery : Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
JCO wrote: >I guess I didnt make this clear enough, I dont > do "lowest common denominator" web photos, if your > screen cant show them fully as I want them to be seen, > then you simply dont GET to see them. Even reducing > them to 800 pixels wide "ruins" them IHMO. Don't you think that's being rather elitist? Hell, why share photos at all if the only people who can view them are those with large and expensive monitor setups like yours? If this is how you always operate, I don't think I'll bother viewing your photos, even though, as I said, the ones I looked at were very nice. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
