subject:"Small sensors are better than you think"

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-11-09 Thread Rick Womer

Juan,

Inspired by this discussion, I dug out my Pentax Optio, with a whopping 3.2 MP 
and a 1 1/2 in LCD for framing.

I’ll have to try it out, just for grins.

Hmmm… Will have to dig out my CF card reader too, if it still exists...

Rick

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake reduction,
>> RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making small
>> cameras obsolete.
>> 
> 
> I'd say they all but killed them already. The one leftover reason is the
> tactile experience of using a camera that is actually a camera and not a
> touch device. I love that, but the convenience of using one device for so
> many things so big that those quaint reasons aren't enough.
> 
> Think about this: even a high end compact from say 2005-2006, at 8 MP or so
> and with a small sensor makes a lot worse images than the better modern
> smartphones.
> 
> j
> 
> --
> Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-11-08 Thread Darren Addy

Great video, as always, Juan. I love your images AND  your analysis. Well
done!

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Friday, April 16, 2021, Juan Buhler  wrote:

> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
>
> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
> grainy 35mm black and white film.
>
> j
>
>
> --
> Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>


-- 
“The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ”
― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-11-08 Thread Darren Addy

If I may return to the subject of the subject line, there is another use
for small sensors:

“ But the Pentax Q
(x) with
their tiny sensors are at their Best for *Long Reach* Astro-Photography
Why ?
Simply because thousands of Deep Sky Small Objects will Never fill an APS-C
sensor !
Even mounted on a very affordable SkyWatcher 1000mm Newtonian !
+ these tiny sensors are Very Sensitive ~ DxO *ISO 5680* FF-Equivalent for
the 1/2.3" in the Pentax Q
, Q10
 !”

Source:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/369368-pentax-q-astrophotography-beginner.html

Geo444 has great posts in that thread.

I might ad the smaller/lighter body is a good match for the Meade ETX
90/105/125 at prime focus. I’ve got an opportunity to get a Pentax Q-S1 for
$40 (no chargers) 5-15mm zoom & might snag it for that low $$.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE



-- 
“The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ”
― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: food suggestions, trip notes, etc (was: re: Small sensors are better than you think)

2021-04-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Hallo! 

Back from Waukegan last night about 11pm. It was cold there the entire time I 
was…! I think the overnight temperature at least two of the days I was there 
was in the middle 20°F range, in mid-April… and it never rose over 48°F until 
the end of the last day. Rather different from here in balmy Northern 
California, where a chilly overnight is 45°F and daytime temps in the 65-75°F 
range are the norm at this time of year. Brrr! I was cold. 

I did see some hardy bicyclists pedaling about, obviously geared up for the 
temperatures and used to them. :D

There wasn't a lot of free time to run down into Chicago. I did have an 
excellent dinner with the guy I was doing business with at Inovasi's restaurant 
in Lake Bluff, and I bought a very tasty small plate of ribs at Hillerie's 
B-B-Q as well. That small plate was enough food for three people by my 
standards…! I guess I don't eat midwesterner style quantities, I was stuffed by 
the time I had eaten about a third of it. 

No chance to use the gym, and only one side trip to see the BaHa'i House in 
Willmette (which I promised to get to if I could and make some photos for a 
friend here). I carried only the iPhone 11 Pro and the Minox B, made 131 photos 
with the iPhone and 26 with the Minox. The BaHa'i House temple is a pretty neat 
piece of architecture, would be fun to photograph that with the Hasselblad. For 
traveling light, my "Invisible backpack" was awesome, and I could get in and 
out of planes, buses, etc with it easily. Could have carried the Leica CL with 
two lenses stuffed into the top of it easily too, with plenty of room to spare, 
but I knew there would be minimal time to do any "real" photography so didn't 
bother. 

Good to be home, and the purpose of the trip was successful. The Toy I went to 
inspect and acquire is on the way home. Now I know I'm in deep trouble… LOL!

usw,
G
—
No matter where you go, there's no place like home.

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 6:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the food suggestions … I've got the names and addresses of the 
> restaurants in my iPhone now.
> 
> Uno, Due, Maggiano's, Hillery's Bar-B-Q .. Mmmm. I'm hungry now.
> 
> I am not sure how much free time I'll have, but we'll see what happens. I 
> have business to deal with on Tuesday and supposedly Wednesday, I'm staying 
> through Thursday just in case things don't get tied up on Wednesday but I 
> might have that whole day free. 
> 
> I did check and my fitness center has a gym in Waukegan. Woo hoo! At least 
> I'll have something to do if I get bored. Just have to remember to bring my 
> gym shorts and a spare Tshirt. :)
> 
> G
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: food suggestions, trip notes, etc (was: re: Small sensors are better than you think)

2021-04-23 Thread Bob Pdml

On 23 Apr 2021, at 16:49, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> [...] For traveling light, my "Invisible backpack" was awesome,

Do they come in hi-viz camouflage?

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: food suggestions, trip notes, etc (was: re: Small sensors are better than you think)

2021-04-23 Thread Paul Sorenson

Glad you were able to make it to Hillerie's. Good food served up by
nice people.

Will we see pix of your new Toy?

RE: Weather...I lived in the Phoenix area over a winter season and it
always amused me to see the locals dressed in winter coats and gloves
while I was happy in shorts and short sleeved shirts. We mid-westerners
are a hardy lot. 

-p

On 4/23/2021 10:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Hallo!

Back from Waukegan last night about 11pm. It was cold there the entire time I
was…! I think the overnight temperature at least two of the days I was there
was in the middle 20°F range, in mid-April… and it never rose over 48°F until
the end of the last day. Rather different from here in balmy Northern
California, where a chilly overnight is 45°F and daytime temps in the 65-75°F
range are the norm at this time of year. Brrr! I was cold.

I did see some hardy bicyclists pedaling about, obviously geared up for the
temperatures and used to them. :D

There wasn't a lot of free time to run down into Chicago. I did have an
excellent dinner with the guy I was doing business with at Inovasi's restaurant
in Lake Bluff, and I bought a very tasty small plate of ribs at Hillerie's
B-B-Q as well. That small plate was enough food for three people by my
standards…! I guess I don't eat midwesterner style quantities, I was stuffed by
the time I had eaten about a third of it.

No chance to use the gym, and only one side trip to see the BaHa'i House in Willmette (which I
promised to get to if I could and make some photos for a friend here). I carried only the iPhone 11
Pro and the Minox B, made 131 photos with the iPhone and 26 with the Minox. The BaHa'i House temple
is a pretty neat piece of architecture, would be fun to photograph that with the Hasselblad. For
traveling light, my "Invisible backpack" was awesome, and I could get in and out of
planes, buses, etc with it easily. Could have carried the Leica CL with two lenses stuffed into the
top of it easily too, with plenty of room to spare, but I knew there would be minimal time to do
any "real" photography so didn't bother.

Good to be home, and the purpose of the trip was successful. The Toy I went to
inspect and acquire is on the way home. Now I know I'm in deep trouble… LOL!

usw,
G
—
No matter where you go, there's no place like home.

On Apr 18, 2021, at 6:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thanks for the food suggestions … I've got the names and addresses of the
restaurants in my iPhone now.

Uno, Due, Maggiano's, Hillery's Bar-B-Q .. Mmmm. I'm hungry now.

I am not sure how much free time I'll have, but we'll see what happens. I have
business to deal with on Tuesday and supposedly Wednesday, I'm staying through
Thursday just in case things don't get tied up on Wednesday but I might have
that whole day free.

I did check and my fitness center has a gym in Waukegan. Woo hoo! At least I'll
have something to do if I get bored. Just have to remember to bring my gym
shorts and a spare Tshirt. :)

G
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

--
Paul Sorenson
Studio1941

Sooner or later "different" scares people.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-21 Thread Larry Colen



> On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:48 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> And www.radioparadise.com
> No talk and CD quality streaming. 4 different channels incl World

Wild Bill was one of the original DGs on KPIG
https://www.kpig.com/

I didn’t remember that he had also been on KFAT, but most of the original KPIG 
DJs came from KFAT.


> 
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 22:59, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 20.04.21 um 19:43 schrieb John:
>> 
>>> MCM had some American rock 'n roll, a LOT of French rock 'n roll (and
>>> French hip-hop & French rap music) and "French" rock 'n roll from Africa
>>> and Asia.
>> 
>> You might want to try FIP, a music program by Radio France with next to
>> no talk:
>> 
>> https://icecast.radiofrance.fr/fip-hifi.aac
>> 
>> Ralf
>> 
>> --
>> Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
>> Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
>> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
>> Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
>> --
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
> 

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-21 Thread Toine

And www.radioparadise.com
No talk and CD quality streaming. 4 different channels incl World

On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 22:59, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>
> Am 20.04.21 um 19:43 schrieb John:
>
> > MCM had some American rock 'n roll, a LOT of French rock 'n roll (and
> > French hip-hop & French rap music) and "French" rock 'n roll from Africa
> > and Asia.
>
> You might want to try FIP, a music program by Radio France with next to
> no talk:
>
> https://icecast.radiofrance.fr/fip-hifi.aac
>
> Ralf
>
> --
> Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
> Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
> Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-20 Thread mike wilson



> On 20 April 2021 at 18:43 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/20/2021 02:50:33, mike wilson wrote:
> > 
> >> On 19 April 2021 at 22:47 John  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> >> Mostly Jazz, Pop & Rock from the 40s through the "naughties" and about half
> >> of it reflects of how American music filtered through Europe (particularly
> >> France) to their former colonies and came back to us as World Music.
> > 
> > That's an interesting perspective.  My understanding of world music is that
> > it's attractive precisely because it is not derived from types popular in 
> > the
> > nothern/western quadrant of the planet.
> >  --
> 
> I don't think it's the sum total of "world music", but the parts I enjoy 
> listening to mostly have some relationship to "American" music (40s, 50s, 60s 
> ...), if nothing more than being inspired by it or inspired by its 
> derivatives.
> 
> When I was in Iraq, there was satellite TV in our day-room/office and the 
> channels we could get were CNN, Fox News, BBC World News, MCM (a French music 
> channel a la MTV) and a Turkish "fashion" channel (???).
> 
> During the duty-day the TV would be tuned to CNN, Fox or BBC, but after hours 
> we 
> could switch to the other two channels - MCM or the Turkish fashion channel. 
> I 
> always opted for music when it was my turn to choose.
> 
> MCM had some American rock 'n roll, a LOT of French rock 'n roll (and French 
> hip-hop & French rap music) and "French" rock 'n roll from Africa and Asia.

No Mongolian throat singers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_throat_singing
No Ethiopian qenet songs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kignit
That's very limited programming.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-20 Thread Ralf R Radermacher


Am 20.04.21 um 19:43 schrieb John:


MCM had some American rock 'n roll, a LOT of French rock 'n roll (and
French hip-hop & French rap music) and "French" rock 'n roll from Africa
and Asia.


You might want to try FIP, a music program by Radio France with next to
no talk:

https://icecast.radiofrance.fr/fip-hifi.aac

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-20 Thread John


On 4/20/2021 02:50:33, mike wilson wrote:



On 19 April 2021 at 22:47 John  wrote:





Mostly Jazz, Pop & Rock from the 40s through the "naughties" and about half
of it reflects of how American music filtered through Europe (particularly
France) to their former colonies and came back to us as World Music.


That's an interesting perspective.  My understanding of world music is that
it's attractive precisely because it is not derived from types popular in the
nothern/western quadrant of the planet.
 --


I don't think it's the sum total of "world music", but the parts I enjoy 
listening to mostly have some relationship to "American" music (40s, 50s, 60s 
...), if nothing more than being inspired by it or inspired by its derivatives.


When I was in Iraq, there was satellite TV in our day-room/office and the 
channels we could get were CNN, Fox News, BBC World News, MCM (a French music 
channel a la MTV) and a Turkish "fashion" channel (???).


During the duty-day the TV would be tuned to CNN, Fox or BBC, but after hours we 
could switch to the other two channels - MCM or the Turkish fashion channel. I 
always opted for music when it was my turn to choose.


MCM had some American rock 'n roll, a LOT of French rock 'n roll (and French 
hip-hop & French rap music) and "French" rock 'n roll from Africa and Asia.




--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-20 Thread mike wilson



> On 19 April 2021 at 22:47 John  wrote:
> 
> 
 
> Mostly Jazz, Pop & Rock from the 40s through the "naughties" and about half 
> of 
> it reflects of how American music filtered through Europe (particularly 
> France) 
> to their former colonies and came back to us as World Music.

That's an interesting perspective.  My understanding of world music is that 
it's attractive precisely because it is not derived from types popular in the 
nothern/western quadrant of the planet.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-19 Thread Paul Stenquist

I stream Amazon Music Premium via Bluetooth to Klipsch RF7-3 towers and a 
15-inch subwoofer, driven by a Pioneer AVR.  Last I checked Amazon had the 
highest resolution files available for streaming. A wide range of musical 
styles and countless selections are offered.

Paul

> On Apr 19, 2021, at 5:47 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> The thing about YouTube for music is it has exposed me to such a wide range 
> of musical styles & genres that I would not have otherwise encountered.
> 
> When I run across a "keeper" I play it into a program called Audacity and 
> save it as an MP3 file. My car radio has an input where I can connect a USB 
> stick with MP3 files and play them when there's nothing on the radio I'm 
> interested in hearing.
> 
> I have about 100 hours worth of music on the stick before I  have to repeat a 
> piece. It's an extremely eclectic mix.
> 
> Mostly Jazz, Pop & Rock from the 40s through the "naughties" and about half 
> of it reflects of how American music filtered through Europe (particularly 
> France) to their former colonies and came back to us as World Music.
> 
> If you like Fisherman's Friends, are you familiar with Stan Rogers?
> 
> Mary Ellen Carter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCJtxiOcc7k
> 
>> On 4/18/2021 17:30:03, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> My tv has tons of music with no ads at all... twenty or thirty categories..  
>> but after seeing FIsherman's Friends
>> I sought out clips on youtube..
>> I just don't want to hear cutsey-pie background music when I take a road 
>> trip or watch an animal news clip or narration when
>> soemthing doesn't need it.
>>> On 4/18/2021 4:00 PM, John wrote:
>>> YouTube has become my primary source for music on demand.
>>> 
>>> On 4/16/2021 17:56:00, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
 Am 16.04.21 um 22:47 schrieb ann sanfedele:
> I left the sound off and enjoyed.
 
 Glad to learn that I'm not the only one to watch videos without the
 sound. :-)
 
 Ralf
 
 -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
> Religion - Answers we must never question.
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-19 Thread John

The thing about YouTube for music is it has exposed me to such a wide range of 
musical styles & genres that I would not have otherwise encountered.


When I run across a "keeper" I play it into a program called Audacity and save 
it as an MP3 file. My car radio has an input where I can connect a USB stick 
with MP3 files and play them when there's nothing on the radio I'm interested in 
hearing.


I have about 100 hours worth of music on the stick before I  have to repeat a 
piece. It's an extremely eclectic mix.


Mostly Jazz, Pop & Rock from the 40s through the "naughties" and about half of 
it reflects of how American music filtered through Europe (particularly France) 
to their former colonies and came back to us as World Music.


If you like Fisherman's Friends, are you familiar with Stan Rogers?

Mary Ellen Carter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCJtxiOcc7k

On 4/18/2021 17:30:03, ann sanfedele wrote:
My tv has tons of music with no ads at all... twenty or thirty categories..  but 
after seeing FIsherman's Friends

I sought out clips on youtube..

I just don't want to hear cutsey-pie background music when I take a road trip or 
watch an animal news clip or narration when

soemthing doesn't need it.

On 4/18/2021 4:00 PM, John wrote:

YouTube has become my primary source for music on demand.

On 4/16/2021 17:56:00, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 16.04.21 um 22:47 schrieb ann sanfedele:

I left the sound off and enjoyed.


Glad to learn that I'm not the only one to watch videos without the
sound. :-)

Ralf

--










--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thanks for the food suggestions … I've got the names and addresses of the 
restaurants in my iPhone now.

Uno, Due, Maggiano's, Hillery's Bar-B-Q .. Mmmm. I'm hungry now.

I am not sure how much free time I'll have, but we'll see what happens. I have 
business to deal with on Tuesday and supposedly Wednesday, I'm staying through 
Thursday just in case things don't get tied up on Wednesday but I might have 
that whole day free. 

I did check and my fitness center has a gym in Waukegan. Woo hoo! At least I'll 
have something to do if I get bored. Just have to remember to bring my gym 
shorts and a spare Tshirt. :)

G
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread ann sanfedele

My tv has tons of music with no ads at all... twenty or thirty 
categories..  but after seeing FIsherman's Friends

I sought out clips on youtube..

I just don't want to hear cutsey-pie background music when I take a road 
trip or watch an animal news clip or narration when

soemthing doesn't need it.

On 4/18/2021 4:00 PM, John wrote:

YouTube has become my primary source for music on demand.

On 4/16/2021 17:56:00, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 16.04.21 um 22:47 schrieb ann sanfedele:

I left the sound off and enjoyed.


Glad to learn that I'm not the only one to watch videos without the
sound. :-)

Ralf

--







--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread Juan Buhler

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 1:00 PM John  wrote:

> YouTube has become my primary source for music on demand.

Same here, works great with adblock. I find Youtube unusable without it.
It's your bandwidth, you decide if you want to download ads or not.

j

--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com

>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread John


YouTube has become my primary source for music on demand.

On 4/16/2021 17:56:00, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 16.04.21 um 22:47 schrieb ann sanfedele:

I left the sound off and enjoyed.


Glad to learn that I'm not the only one to watch videos without the
sound. :-)

Ralf

--





--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread Paul Sorenson

I'll vote for the tihin crust, too, but if it's deep dish you want,
Maggiano's is pretty decent.

On 4/18/2021 7:29 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Unos and Duos ain’t what they used to be. They were sold, franchised and pretty much destroyed. Last time I was at Unos it was very ordinary. In any case derp dish pizza was pretty much a Johnny come lately in
Chicago. The real pizza of Chicago’s Italian immigrants is thin crust, decadent and cut into small squares. Italian bar owners started serving it more than a century ago. It’s sometimes called tavern style. The crust is thin and rich but not cracker-like. A bit of corn flour on the bottom adds texture. Sauce goes generously atop the crust followed
by hearty hunks of loose sausage and topped fully with premium mozzarella. The cheese floats on the sauce and sausage grease. Done right, as it is in many places particularly on the south side, It’s to die for. There’s probably at least one good pie joint in Waukegan but it won’t bear any of the names popularized by the tourist crowd. It’ll be small, probably next door to a bar, and it will have a name like Vito and Frankie’s.

On Apr 17, 2021, at 11:22 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

You won't be passing through Chicago to and from the airport

.. . Wauegan is one of our burbs.. and 2 miles north is the town of Zion where
I was staying

when the 2010 PDML exhibit was on... at my oldest friend's daughter's home
was and where friend spent her last years of life.. the banner on my web page
was taken in the Illinois Beach Nature Preserve - essentially in Waukegan.
There is a woodland trail there along the lake. O'Hare airport is south west
from Waukegan and North west of Chicago proper..

Sorry you aren't really staying in the city... but you can get stroll along the
shore of Lake Mich in that state park on along the woodland trail.. such
a different look than what you are used to.

ann

On 4/17/2021 10:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Ann,

I've only been in Chicago a couple of times and very briefly at that … Never
had any time to learn the city.

I'm not actually going to be in Chicago much on this trip either: I'll spend
most of my time a bit up-state in Waukegan. It's mostly a pass-through Chicago
on the way from and to the airport.

Yeah, the pizzerias may all be takeout only. Sigh.

On Apr 17, 2021, at 5:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Yes! .. but don't call it's location "downtown" there is no"downtown" in Chicago in the
sense you mean .. in Chi town it is "the Loop" so called because part of the elevated section of
the subway system makes that shape ..

Uno's has a sister location nearby which is a bit larger and absolutely the
same pie - and my fave of the two locations.. BUT
looks like they are just doing take out due to THE virus.. it is at the corner
of Wabash and Ontario. .. Possibly Uno is only takeout/delivery.

What hotel are you staying in? We should talk when you are on your way or
there..

Is it possible you have NEVER been to Chicago?

hugs,
ann

On 4/17/2021 8:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you, Ann!

Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might be
time to make a stop there… :D

I don't know exactly how much of my time there will be taken up by business,
most of the time I'll be up in Waukegan area. But if there's time, and dinner
calls, a bit of the original Chicago deep dish pizza sounds real good! I might
have a full day to spare on my hands..

Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

follow the directions.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

--
Paul Sorenson
Studio1941

Sooner or later "different" scares people.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread Paul Sorenson

If you're in the Waukegan area and have a taste for ribs, check out 
Hillery's Bar-B-Q - no indoor dining - take-out and patio only, but the 
ribs are great.


-p

On 4/17/2021 7:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you, Ann!

Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might be 
time to make a stop there… :D

I don't know exactly how much of my time there will be taken up by business, 
most of the time I'll be up in Waukegan area. But if there's time, and dinner 
calls, a bit of the original Chicago deep dish pizza sounds real good! I might 
have a full day to spare on my hands..

Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.

G



On Apr 17, 2021, at 1:21 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I read "headed off to Chicago" and all I could think of was to tell you to go 
to the original Pizzaria Uno for me. :-) .. I forgot to look at the photo!
which I love and think I've seen before...  I came back "here" after reading 
Juan's post and his comment on the photo

ann

On 4/17/2021 11:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D

I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with 
them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that you 
don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6 in the 
case of the EC)..

https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b

You frame and expose based on the whole scene, not just the primary subject. It's a 
different mindset from the "ultra-shallow DoF" look that seems so popular in 
recent years.

Hmm. I'm headed off to Chicago for four days to conduct some business. I was 
debating on what camera to take along … don't want to carry much. Now I think 
I'll just load up a Minox and slip that into my pocket. Thanks!

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


--
Paul Sorenson
Studio1941

Sooner or later "different" scares people.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread ann sanfedele

I didn't know about the sale.. :-(
It was still tasty in 2010 when I dragged a couple of motly Pdml'ers
there .. we went to Due. I agree totally about your Waukegan comment..
I ate thin crust on the far north side in high school... can't remember
the place I want to say Gino's..

DIdn't even know what Pizza was when we lived on the south side.. moved
away when I was 8

ann

On 4/18/2021 8:29 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Unos and Duos ain’t what they used to be. They were sold, franchised and pretty
much destroyed. Last time I was at Unos it was very ordinary. In any case derp
dish pizza was pretty much a Johnny come lately in Chicago. The real pizza of
Chicago’s Italian immigrants is thin crust, decadent and cut into small
squares. Italian bar owners started serving it more than a century ago. It’s
sometimes called tavern style. The crust is thin and rich but not cracker-like.
A bit of corn flour on the bottom adds texture. Sauce goes generously atop the
crust followed by hearty hunks of loose sausage and topped fully with premium
mozzarella. The cheese floats on the sauce and sausage grease. Done right, as
it is in many places particularly on the south side, It’s to die for. There’s
probably at least one good pie joint in Waukegan but it won’t bear any of the
names popularized by the tourist crowd. It’ll be small, probably next door to a
bar, and it will have a name like Vito and Frankie’s.

On Apr 17, 2021, at 11:22 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

You won't be passing through Chicago to and from the airport .. . Wauegan is
one of our burbs.. and 2 miles north is the town of Zion where I was staying
when the 2010 PDML exhibit was on... at my oldest friend's daughter's home
was and where friend spent her last years of life.. the banner on my web page
was taken in the Illinois Beach Nature Preserve - essentially in Waukegan.
There is a woodland trail there along the lake. O'Hare airport is south west
from Waukegan and North west of Chicago proper..

Sorry you aren't really staying in the city... but you can get stroll along the
shore of Lake Mich in that state park on along the woodland trail.. such
a different look than what you are used to.

ann

On 4/17/2021 10:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Ann,

I've only been in Chicago a couple of times and very briefly at that … Never
had any time to learn the city.

I'm not actually going to be in Chicago much on this trip either: I'll spend
most of my time a bit up-state in Waukegan. It's mostly a pass-through Chicago
on the way from and to the airport.

Yeah, the pizzerias may all be takeout only. Sigh.

On Apr 17, 2021, at 5:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

What hotel are you staying in? We should talk when you are on your way or
there..

Is it possible you have NEVER been to Chicago?

hugs,
ann

On 4/17/2021 8:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you, Ann!

Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might be
time to make a stop there… :D

Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread Paul Stenquist

Unos and Duos ain’t what they used to be. They were sold, franchised and pretty 
much destroyed. Last time I was at Unos it was very ordinary. In any case derp 
dish pizza was pretty much a Johnny come lately in Chicago. The real pizza of 
Chicago’s Italian immigrants is thin crust, decadent and cut into small 
squares. Italian bar owners started serving it more than a century ago. It’s 
sometimes called tavern style. The crust is thin and rich but not cracker-like. 
A bit of corn flour on the bottom adds texture. Sauce goes generously atop the 
crust followed by hearty hunks of loose sausage and topped fully with premium 
mozzarella. The cheese floats on the sauce and sausage grease. Done right, as 
it is in many places particularly on the south side, It’s to die for. There’s 
probably at least one good pie joint in Waukegan but it won’t bear any of the 
names popularized by the tourist crowd. It’ll be small, probably next door to a 
bar, and it will have a name like Vito and Frankie’s.

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 11:22 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  You won't be passing through Chicago to and from the airport .. .  Wauegan 
> is one of our burbs.. and 2 miles north is the town of Zion where I was 
> staying
>  when the 2010 PDML exhibit was on... at my oldest friend's daughter's home 
> was and where friend spent her last years of life.. the banner on my web page 
> was taken in the Illinois Beach Nature Preserve  - essentially in Waukegan.  
> There is a woodland trail there along the lake.  O'Hare airport  is south 
> west from Waukegan and North west of Chicago proper..
> 
> Sorry you aren't really staying in the city... but you can get stroll along 
> the shore of Lake Mich in that state park on along the woodland trail.. such
> a different look than what you are used to.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/17/2021 10:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Ann,
>> 
>> I've only been in Chicago a couple of times and very briefly at that … Never 
>> had any time to learn the city.
>> 
>> I'm not actually going to be in Chicago much on this trip either: I'll spend 
>> most of my time a bit up-state in Waukegan. It's mostly a pass-through 
>> Chicago on the way from and to the airport.
>> 
>> Yeah, the pizzerias may all be takeout only. Sigh.
>> 
>> G
>> 
 On Apr 17, 2021, at 5:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes!  .. but don't call it's location "downtown"  there is no"downtown" in 
>>> Chicago in the sense you mean .. in Chi town it is "the Loop"  so called 
>>> because part of the elevated section of the subway system makes that shape 
>>> ..
>>> 
>>> Uno's has a sister location nearby which is a bit larger and absolutely the 
>>> same pie - and my fave of the two locations.. BUT
>>> looks like they are just doing take out due to THE virus.. it is at the 
>>> corner of Wabash and Ontario. .. Possibly Uno is only takeout/delivery.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What hotel are you staying in?  We should talk when you are on your way or 
>>> there..
>>> 
>>> Is it possible you have NEVER been to Chicago?
>>> 
>>> hugs,
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> On 4/17/2021 8:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Thank you, Ann!

 Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might 
 be time to make a stop there… :D

 I don't know exactly how much of my time there will be taken up by 
 business, most of the time I'll be up in Waukegan area. But if there's 
 time, and dinner calls, a bit of the original Chicago deep dish pizza 
 sounds real good! I might have a full day to spare on my hands..

 Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.

 G
>> --
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
> 
> -- 
> ann sanfedele photography
> https://annsan.smugmug.com
> https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
> https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
> https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Ann, 

I've only been in Chicago a couple of times and very briefly at that … Never 
had any time to learn the city. 

I'm not actually going to be in Chicago much on this trip either: I'll spend 
most of my time a bit up-state in Waukegan. It's mostly a pass-through Chicago 
on the way from and to the airport.

Yeah, the pizzerias may all be takeout only. Sigh. 

G

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 5:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Yes!  .. but don't call it's location "downtown"  there is no"downtown" in 
> Chicago in the sense you mean .. in Chi town it is "the Loop"  so called 
> because part of the elevated section of the subway system makes that shape ..
> 
> Uno's has a sister location nearby which is a bit larger and absolutely the 
> same pie - and my fave of the two locations.. BUT
> looks like they are just doing take out due to THE virus.. it is at the 
> corner of Wabash and Ontario. .. Possibly Uno is only takeout/delivery.
> 
> 
> What hotel are you staying in?  We should talk when you are on your way or 
> there..
> 
> Is it possible you have NEVER been to Chicago?
> 
> hugs,
> ann
> 
> On 4/17/2021 8:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Thank you, Ann!
>> 
>> Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might 
>> be time to make a stop there… :D
>> 
>> I don't know exactly how much of my time there will be taken up by business, 
>> most of the time I'll be up in Waukegan area. But if there's time, and 
>> dinner calls, a bit of the original Chicago deep dish pizza sounds real 
>> good! I might have a full day to spare on my hands..
>> 
>> Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.
>> 
>> G
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thank you, Ann! 

Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might be 
time to make a stop there… :D

I don't know exactly how much of my time there will be taken up by business, 
most of the time I'll be up in Waukegan area. But if there's time, and dinner 
calls, a bit of the original Chicago deep dish pizza sounds real good! I might 
have a full day to spare on my hands..

Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019. 

G


> On Apr 17, 2021, at 1:21 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I read "headed off to Chicago" and all I could think of was to tell you to go 
> to the original Pizzaria Uno for me. :-) .. I forgot to look at the photo!
> which I love and think I've seen before...  I came back "here" after reading 
> Juan's post and his comment on the photo
> 
> ann
> 
> On 4/17/2021 11:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D
>> 
>> I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with 
>> them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that 
>> you don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6 in 
>> the case of the EC)..
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b
>> 
>> You frame and expose based on the whole scene, not just the primary subject. 
>> It's a different mindset from the "ultra-shallow DoF" look that seems so 
>> popular in recent years.
>> 
>> Hmm. I'm headed off to Chicago for four days to conduct some business. I was 
>> debating on what camera to take along … don't want to carry much. Now I 
>> think I'll just load up a Minox and slip that into my pocket. Thanks!
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread ann sanfedele

You won't be passing through Chicago to and from the airport .. .
Wauegan is one of our burbs.. and 2 miles north is the town of Zion
where I was staying
when the 2010 PDML exhibit was on... at my oldest friend's daughter's
home was and where friend spent her last years of life.. the banner on
my web page was taken in the Illinois Beach Nature Preserve -
essentially in Waukegan. There is a woodland trail there along the
lake. O'Hare airport is south west from Waukegan and North west of
Chicago proper..

Sorry you aren't really staying in the city... but you can get stroll
along the shore of Lake Mich in that state park on along the woodland
trail.. such

a different look than what you are used to.

ann

On 4/17/2021 10:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Ann,

I've only been in Chicago a couple of times and very briefly at that … Never
had any time to learn the city.

I'm not actually going to be in Chicago much on this trip either: I'll spend
most of my time a bit up-state in Waukegan. It's mostly a pass-through Chicago
on the way from and to the airport.

Yeah, the pizzerias may all be takeout only. Sigh.

On Apr 17, 2021, at 5:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

What hotel are you staying in? We should talk when you are on your way or
there..

Is it possible you have NEVER been to Chicago?

hugs,
ann

On 4/17/2021 8:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you, Ann!

Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might be
time to make a stop there… :D

Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thank you, Juan! I appreciate the compliment! :)

The lure in all technical subjects for technically minded folks is to 
concentrate on the technology, whether or not the results have a positive 
impact on the results of the endeavor or not. I do my best to avoid the 
'constant search for perfect, noise-free images' and try to think about making 
photos I like from a different perspective. I don't get annoyed at what others 
do other than when I get suckered into doing it too … which happens, 
occasionally. 

It's a lot easier to talk about cameras from the perspective of megapixels, 
sensor size, et al, than it is to discuss photographs. Discussing photographs 
means we have to think about what we're seeing, capturing, and why/how it 
affects us ... what our intent in presenting it might be. Can't just look at a 
spec sheet for information on that… 

G

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Godfrey!
> 
> Great photo! I think there's something really annoying with the constant
> search for perfect, noise-free images. I get it, cameras nowadays can
> resolve every photon in a scene without noise at all. Boring. Art is a play
> between lost and found, between what you show and what you suggest, or
> better yet, what the viewer thinks you show and or suggest. This photo by
> Godfrey is a good example of this.
> 
> Having great tools is just that, great. But seeking perfect sharpness and
> rendition regardless of whether these things contribute to the image at all
> is what I said--boring.
> 
> However, I'm grateful to those who review photo hardware and show the rest
> of us what's sharp and what bokeh looks like. That helps my effort, when I
> want a sharp lens or something that does this or that, I can find that info
> by looking at what the pixel peepers said.
> 
> j
> 
> --
> Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 8:04 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:
> 
>> Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D
>> 
>> I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with
>> them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that
>> you don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6
>> in the case of the EC)..
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
>>> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

The Moment camera app allows you to save captures as DNG raw files. It works 
well, but there are some circumstances when the Apple Camera app does a better 
job due to combining captures from multiple cameras and outputting an .HEIF 
file. I use both camera apps with the iPhone 11 Pro and have gotten some 
excellent photos out of it. 

The iPhone 12 has a couple more features in the cameras than the iPhone 11. I 
haven't spent any time with a 12 yet. 

G

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Olga  wrote:
> 
> I seriously need to look into RAW capabilities of my iPhone 12. That could
> be a game changer! Thank you for mentioning it. Regardless of the question
> of how preferable shooting with a real camera is, this is still very much
> worth exploring.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake reduction,
>> RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making small
>> cameras obsolete.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread ann sanfedele

Yes!  .. but don't call it's location "downtown"  there is no"downtown" 
in Chicago in the sense you mean .. in Chi town it is "the Loop"  so 
called because part of the elevated section of the subway system makes 
that shape ..


Uno's has a sister location nearby which is a bit larger and absolutely 
the same pie - and my fave of the two locations.. BUT
looks like they are just doing take out due to THE virus.. it is at the 
corner of Wabash and Ontario. .. Possibly Uno is only takeout/delivery.



What hotel are you staying in?  We should talk when you are on your way 
or there..


Is it possible you have NEVER been to Chicago?

hugs,
ann

On 4/17/2021 8:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you, Ann!

Is that the Pizzeria Uno on E Ohio Street in downtown Chicago? There might be 
time to make a stop there… :D

I don't know exactly how much of my time there will be taken up by business, 
most of the time I'll be up in Waukegan area. But if there's time, and dinner 
calls, a bit of the original Chicago deep dish pizza sounds real good! I might 
have a full day to spare on my hands..

Yes: I posted that set of photos some time around November 2019.

G



On Apr 17, 2021, at 1:21 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I read "headed off to Chicago" and all I could think of was to tell you to go 
to the original Pizzaria Uno for me. :-) .. I forgot to look at the photo!
which I love and think I've seen before...  I came back "here" after reading 
Juan's post and his comment on the photo

ann

On 4/17/2021 11:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D

I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with 
them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that you 
don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6 in the 
case of the EC)..

https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b

You frame and expose based on the whole scene, not just the primary subject. It's a 
different mindset from the "ultra-shallow DoF" look that seems so popular in 
recent years.

Hmm. I'm headed off to Chicago for four days to conduct some business. I was 
debating on what camera to take along … don't want to carry much. Now I think 
I'll just load up a Minox and slip that into my pocket. Thanks!

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist

RAW on the 12 pro max is excellent. You get all the Adobe raw converter tools 
and a high resolution, sharp, accurately exposed file to work with.

Paul

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 3:38 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> It would be interesting to see how the final jpegs turn out. I suspect the 
> apple processing outperforms lightroom. Apple has really pushed computational 
> photography.
> 
> 
>> On April 17, 2021 12:09:26 PM PDT, Olga  wrote:
>> I seriously need to look into RAW capabilities of my iPhone 12. That
>> could
>> be a game changer! Thank you for mentioning it. Regardless of the
>> question
>> of how preferable shooting with a real camera is, this is still very
>> much
>> worth exploring.
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake
>> reduction,
>>> RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making
>> small
>>> cameras obsolete.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Pete McIntosh 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: "Juan Buhler" 
>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>>> Sent: 17/04/21 2:27:32
>>>> Subject: Small sensors are better than you think
>>>> 
>>>>> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors.
>> Featuring
>>> the
>>>>> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
>>>>> 
>>>>> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have
>>> things
>>>>> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my
>> favorite
>>>>> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about
>> the
>>> images
>>>>> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares
>> well
>>> with
>>>>> grainy 35mm black and white film.
>>>>> 
>>>>> j
>>>>> 
>>>> I gotta agree too. I've been pocketing a Olympus XZ-1 for years,
>> and
>>> recently upgraded that to a XZ-2. These, too, are equivalent to the
>> MX-1,
>>> GR IV, etc. Both have their custom settings set up for B, with a
>> little
>>> extra sharpening and contrast, and get used at ISO320/640. They're
>> terrific
>>> little devices.
>>>> 
>>>> Ciao,
>>>> 
>>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
>> and
>>> follow the directions.
>>> --
>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
>> and
>>> follow the directions.
>> --
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
>> follow the directions.
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Bill

On Sat., Apr. 17, 2021, 2:04 p.m. Juan Buhler,  wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
>
> > And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake reduction,
> > RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making
> small
> > cameras obsolete.
> >
>
> I'd say they all but killed them already. The one leftover reason is the
> tactile experience of using a camera that is actually a camera and not a
> touch device. I love that, but the convenience of using one device for so
> many things so big that those quaint reasons aren't enough.
>
> Think about this: even a high end compact from say 2005-2006, at 8 MP or so
> and with a small sensor makes a lot worse images than the better modern
> smartphones.
>

My old Huawei P20 Pro outperformed my 1st generation Q. My wife's iPhone 11
outperforms my old P20 Pro, and  as an aside, the camera in my Note 10 plus.
The Q was an odd camera. There really wasn't a market for it even when it
was fresh on the market other than the Japanese teenage girl brigade and
nutbars like myself that will buy pretty much anything that takes pictures
and has the name Pentax on it.
The teenage girls have long since moved on to cell phones.
It was a clumsy size, not big enough to be a real camera, but too big to be
an easily pocketable point and shoot if the standard zoom lens was on it.
Even with the standard lens it was kind of thick.
They should have made a retractable lens for it, but that would have been
throwing money out the window.
It did punch above its weight regarding image quality, but this was negated
by it's slowness.

It was kind if cool with the standard lens and clip on viewfinder. I never
came to like cameras that don't have viewfinders.

The compact camera market is pretty much done, I suspect the bridge market
isn't far behind. The future of cameras is expensive higher end products
with sufficient separation from cell phones that it will be a while before
they catch up.
Hence the 2k APS-C camera with a real optical viewfinder.

bill

>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread ann sanfedele

I read "headed off to Chicago" and all I could think of was to tell you 
to go to the original Pizzaria Uno for me. :-) .. I forgot to look at 
the photo!
which I love and think I've seen before...  I came back "here" after 
reading Juan's post and his comment on the photo


ann




On 4/17/2021 11:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D

I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with 
them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that you 
don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6 in the 
case of the EC)..

https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b

You frame and expose based on the whole scene, not just the primary subject. It's a 
different mindset from the "ultra-shallow DoF" look that seems so popular in 
recent years.

Hmm. I'm headed off to Chicago for four days to conduct some business. I was 
debating on what camera to take along … don't want to carry much. Now I think 
I'll just load up a Minox and slip that into my pocket. Thanks!

G
—
Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com

"...For we are the Makers of Magic, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams."
   – Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory



On Apr 16, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:

I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk

These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
grainy 35mm black and white film.

j


--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Juan Buhler

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake reduction,
> RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making small
> cameras obsolete.
>

I'd say they all but killed them already. The one leftover reason is the
tactile experience of using a camera that is actually a camera and not a
touch device. I love that, but the convenience of using one device for so
many things so big that those quaint reasons aren't enough.

Think about this: even a high end compact from say 2005-2006, at 8 MP or so
and with a small sensor makes a lot worse images than the better modern
smartphones.

j

--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread lrc

It would be interesting to see how the final jpegs turn out. I suspect the 
apple processing outperforms lightroom. Apple has really pushed computational 
photography.


On April 17, 2021 12:09:26 PM PDT, Olga  wrote:
>I seriously need to look into RAW capabilities of my iPhone 12. That
>could
>be a game changer! Thank you for mentioning it. Regardless of the
>question
>of how preferable shooting with a real camera is, this is still very
>much
>worth exploring.
>
>On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist 
>wrote:
>
>> And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake
>reduction,
>> RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making
>small
>> cameras obsolete.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> > On Apr 17, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Pete McIntosh 
>wrote:
>> >
>> > -- Original Message --
>> > From: "Juan Buhler" 
>> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> > Sent: 17/04/21 2:27:32
>> > Subject: Small sensors are better than you think
>> >
>> >> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors.
>Featuring
>> the
>> >> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
>> >>
>> >> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have
>> things
>> >> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my
>favorite
>> >> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about
>the
>> images
>> >> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares
>well
>> with
>> >> grainy 35mm black and white film.
>> >>
>> >> j
>> >>
>> > I gotta agree too. I've been pocketing a Olympus XZ-1 for years,
>and
>> recently upgraded that to a XZ-2. These, too, are equivalent to the
>MX-1,
>> GR IV, etc. Both have their custom settings set up for B, with a
>little
>> extra sharpening and contrast, and get used at ISO320/640. They're
>terrific
>> little devices.
>> >
>> > Ciao,
>> >
>> > Pete Mac in Melbourne
>> >>
>> >>
>> > --
>> > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
>and
>> follow the directions.
>> --
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
>and
>> follow the directions.
>--
>%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
>follow the directions.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Juan Buhler

Thanks Godfrey!

Great photo! I think there's something really annoying with the constant
search for perfect, noise-free images. I get it, cameras nowadays can
resolve every photon in a scene without noise at all. Boring. Art is a play
between lost and found, between what you show and what you suggest, or
better yet, what the viewer thinks you show and or suggest. This photo by
Godfrey is a good example of this.

Having great tools is just that, great. But seeking perfect sharpness and
rendition regardless of whether these things contribute to the image at all
is what I said--boring.

However, I'm grateful to those who review photo hardware and show the rest
of us what's sharp and what bokeh looks like. That helps my effort, when I
want a sharp lens or something that does this or that, I can find that info
by looking at what the pixel peepers said.

j

--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 8:04 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D
>
> I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with
> them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that
> you don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6
> in the case of the EC)..
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b
>
> You frame and expose based on the whole scene, not just the primary
> subject. It's a different mindset from the "ultra-shallow DoF" look that
> seems so popular in recent years.
>
> Hmm. I'm headed off to Chicago for four days to conduct some business. I
> was debating on what camera to take along … don't want to carry much. Now I
> think I'll just load up a Minox and slip that into my pocket. Thanks!
>
> G
> —
> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com
>
> "...For we are the Makers of Magic, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams."
>   – Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> >
> > I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
> > MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
> >
> > These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
> > like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
> > cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the
> images
> > coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
> > grainy 35mm black and white film.
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > --
> > Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Olga

I seriously need to look into RAW capabilities of my iPhone 12. That could
be a game changer! Thank you for mentioning it. Regardless of the question
of how preferable shooting with a real camera is, this is still very much
worth exploring.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:57 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake reduction,
> RAW capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making small
> cameras obsolete.
>
> Paul
>
> > On Apr 17, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Pete McIntosh  wrote:
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Juan Buhler" 
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Sent: 17/04/21 2:27:32
> > Subject: Small sensors are better than you think
> >
> >> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring
> the
> >> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
> >>
> >> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have
> things
> >> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
> >> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the
> images
> >> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well
> with
> >> grainy 35mm black and white film.
> >>
> >> j
> >>
> > I gotta agree too. I've been pocketing a Olympus XZ-1 for years, and
> recently upgraded that to a XZ-2. These, too, are equivalent to the MX-1,
> GR IV, etc. Both have their custom settings set up for B, with a little
> extra sharpening and contrast, and get used at ISO320/640. They're terrific
> little devices.
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > Pete Mac in Melbourne
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Nicely done, Juan! Beautiful photos, as always, too! :D

I have many, many photos made with small sensor cameras. When I shoot with 
them, I think of shooting with my Minox 8x11 film cameras: so much DoF that you 
don't think about it, the lens is always wide open at f/3.5 (or f/5.6 in the 
case of the EC)..

https://flic.kr/p/2hKjQ6b

You frame and expose based on the whole scene, not just the primary subject. 
It's a different mindset from the "ultra-shallow DoF" look that seems so 
popular in recent years. 

Hmm. I'm headed off to Chicago for four days to conduct some business. I was 
debating on what camera to take along … don't want to carry much. Now I think 
I'll just load up a Minox and slip that into my pocket. Thanks! 

G
—
Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com

"...For we are the Makers of Magic, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams."
  – Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
> 
> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
> grainy 35mm black and white film.
> 
> j
> 
> 
> --
> Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist

And of course we have phones with 11 megapixel sensors, shake reduction, RAW 
capability, panorama and portrait modes and more. They’re making small cameras 
obsolete.

Paul

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Pete McIntosh  wrote:
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Juan Buhler" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: 17/04/21 2:27:32
> Subject: Small sensors are better than you think
> 
>> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
>> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
>> 
>> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
>> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
>> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
>> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
>> grainy 35mm black and white film.
>> 
>> j
>> 
> I gotta agree too. I've been pocketing a Olympus XZ-1 for years, and recently 
> upgraded that to a XZ-2. These, too, are equivalent to the MX-1, GR IV, etc. 
> Both have their custom settings set up for B, with a little extra 
> sharpening and contrast, and get used at ISO320/640. They're terrific little 
> devices.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>> 
>> 
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Pete McIntosh

-- Original Message --
From: "Juan Buhler" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: 17/04/21 2:27:32
Subject: Small sensors are better than you think

I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk

These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
grainy 35mm black and white film.

j

I gotta agree too. I've been pocketing a Olympus XZ-1 for years, and 
recently upgraded that to a XZ-2. These, too, are equivalent to the 
MX-1, GR IV, etc. Both have their custom settings set up for B, with a 
little extra sharpening and contrast, and get used at ISO320/640. 
They're terrific little devices.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-17 Thread Boris Liberman

Juan, you are a very good photographer...

Enjoyed the pictures and the commentary of your video.

Boris

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 19:27 Juan Buhler  wrote:

> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
>
> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
> grainy 35mm black and white film.
>
> j
>
>
> --
> Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Juan Buhler

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:47 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I almost didn't look because it was (a) a video - that implied tech
> talk  and (b) because I didn't know it was going to be your wonderful
> photography.
>   then I read comments by fellow PDML'ers and the lightbulb wen on over
> my head.  I left the sound off and enjoyed.
>

Thanks Ann!

FWIW, I don't want my videos to be about the tech talk. When I look at a
lens or camera I care more about how it makes me feel than anything else.
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept, anyway :)

j

--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com

>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Ralf R Radermacher


Am 16.04.21 um 22:47 schrieb ann sanfedele:

I left the sound off and enjoyed.


Glad to learn that I'm not the only one to watch videos without the
sound. :-)

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread ann sanfedele

I almost didn't look because it was (a) a video - that implied tech 
talk  and (b) because I didn't know it was going to be your wonderful 
photography.
 then I read comments by fellow PDML'ers and the lightbulb wen on over 
my head.  I left the sound off and enjoyed.


ann

On 4/16/2021 12:27 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk

These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
grainy 35mm black and white film.

j


--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Steve Cottrell

On 16/4/21, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
>MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk

Excellent!




-- 

  Cheers
Cotty
  
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Toine

I totally agree. The MX-1,Q7 and Q-S1 are my favorites. Nowadays my
daily photobag includes two small sensor cams. Q-S1/wide 08 and a
coolpix P950 which gives me a range from ultra wide to ultra tele.
The examples in your video are very convincing and noise from raw
isn't any problem. And not just any examples. Chapeau!


On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 18:27, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>
> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk
>
> These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
> like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
> cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
> coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
> grainy 35mm black and white film.
>
> j
>
>
> --
> Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Gonz

Love it

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:19 PM Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> Amen. It’s not the hardware, firmware, or software, it’s the wetware that 
> counts.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> >
> > Am 16.04.21 um 18:27 schrieb Juan Buhler:
> >> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
> >> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
> >
> > Yet another proof - as if any was needed - that the camera is far less
> > important than what's behind it.
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> > --
> > Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
> > Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
> > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
> > Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
> > --
> > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
> > follow the directions.
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.



-- 
  "I think my ex-wife has weekly lessions with the Devil on how to
   be more evil.  I don't know how much she charges him."  - Emo Philips
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Rick Womer

Amen. It’s not the hardware, firmware, or software, it’s the wetware that 
counts.

Rick

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 16.04.21 um 18:27 schrieb Juan Buhler:
>> I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
>> MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7
> 
> Yet another proof - as if any was needed - that the camera is far less
> important than what's behind it.
> 
> Ralf
> 
> --
> Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
> Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
> Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Ralf R Radermacher


Am 16.04.21 um 18:27 schrieb Juan Buhler:

I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7


Yet another proof - as if any was needed - that the camera is far less
important than what's behind it.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Small sensors are better than you think

2021-04-16 Thread Juan Buhler

I made a video about how I like cameras with small sensors. Featuring the
MX-1, Ricoh GR Digital IV and photos from the Q7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWxUFJR7Xk

These cameras have become basically unnecessary given that we have things
like the GR with an APS-C sensor (and the 16MP GR2 is one of my favorite
cameras of all time). But I really think there's something about the images
coming out of 1/1.7" or so sensors at around 12MP that compares well with
grainy 35mm black and white film.

j


--
Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

48 matches

Mail list logo