Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-17 Thread P. J. Alling
The good news is the speed of the card won't really matter with the 
*ist-D.  The bad news is the speed of the card won't really matter...

Steve Larson wrote:
 i am happy, silvio's took the ist ds back, and gave me the ist d instead, 
 straight across.  I'm taking it to
 Dean's on monday for a thorough go-through. thanks everyone for all your 
 help, i love
 this place :) dean is going to sell me a 4 gig cf card for $50 :)

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-16 Thread P. J. Alling
The first couple of times I downloaded pictures from my *ist-D I used 
the card reader built into an HP Photosmart 7250 supposedly USB 2.0 
compatible, which it is, but it downloads at USP 1.0 speeds.  I figured 
anything had to be faster so I used the USB cable that came with the 
camera until I could get an multi card reader.  I haven't used the cable 
to download photos since.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you have a card reader? You don't really need (or want) to use the camera 
 to download. I've never done that in five years of shooting digital.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the 
 cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
 on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on 
 another machine too, same thing :(((

 Steve


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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not Paul, but yes for all intents and purposes the *ist series 
bodies are all the same size.  They are slightly differnet shapes, and 
the D has a slightly shallower grip.  All of the rest are exactly the 
same size though the DL's are lighter than the Ds'.  Hope that helps.

Steve Larson wrote:
 thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i 
 ask because the wife wants a
 small camera.

 steve


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 On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you
 might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism
 viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the
 write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will
 be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a
 battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion.
 On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote:

 
 writes that down.

 steve


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 If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
 -- Original message --
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 maybe, but it was a model with more features

   
 Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars
 less

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Larson
hiya adam, thank you sir. i feel i am loaded with both barrels to barter 
now.

steve

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 The DS and DL series are identical externally apart from the LCD (DS
 has 2, DS2, DL, DL2 have 2.5). The D is different, with a smaller
 grip on a slightly larger body. K-series bodies are larger.

 -Adam

 On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i
  ask because the wife wants a
  small camera.

  steve



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 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:51 PM
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   On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you
   might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism
   viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the
   write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will
   be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a
   battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion.
   On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote:
  
   writes that down.
  
   steve
  
  
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   If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
   -- Original message --
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   maybe, but it was a model with more features
  
  
   Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars
   less
  
   William Robb
  
  
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
One other thing about the DS - be sure you have the latest firmware 
upgrade.  With the exception of the smaller LCD, the upgrade essentially 
makes the DS a DS2.

-p

Steve Larson wrote:
 writes that down.
 
 steve
 
 
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 If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
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 maybe, but it was a model with more features

 Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars 
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Larson
i am happy, silvio's took the ist ds back, and gave me the ist d instead, 
straight across.  I'm taking it to
Dean's on monday for a thorough go-through. thanks everyone for all your 
help, i love
this place :) dean is going to sell me a 4 gig cf card for $50 :)

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
The ist d is of better build quality. I think you'll like it. I had  
two of them and never had a problem with either one through many  
thousands of photos.
Paul
On May 16, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Steve Larson wrote:

 i am happy, silvio's took the ist ds back, and gave me the ist d  
 instead,
 straight across.  I'm taking it to
 Dean's on monday for a thorough go-through. thanks everyone for all  
 your
 help, i love
 this place :) dean is going to sell me a 4 gig cf card for $50 :)

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Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the 
cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on 
another machine too, same thing :(((

Steve


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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you got it cheap enough, I'd just ignore the USB port entirely and  
use a card reader instead. The only time I ever used the USB port of  
a Pentax DSLR was to see if the Pentax Remote Assistant worked with  
the K10D. It worked, that was the last time I plugged it in.

Card readers are much better than plugging in the camera, and they're  
faster to boot.

Godfrey

On May 15, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Steve Larson wrote:

 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug  
 the
 cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
 on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on
 another machine too, same thing :(((


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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
thanks godfrey, it came with a 90 day warranty, so its going to be fixed :)
I will keep the card reader in mind though, thanks !

Steve

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


 If you got it cheap enough, I'd just ignore the USB port entirely and
 use a card reader instead. The only time I ever used the USB port of
 a Pentax DSLR was to see if the Pentax Remote Assistant worked with
 the K10D. It worked, that was the last time I plugged it in.

 Card readers are much better than plugging in the camera, and they're
 faster to boot.

 Godfrey

 On May 15, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Steve Larson wrote:

 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug
 the
 cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
 on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on
 another machine too, same thing :(((


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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 15, 2008, at 14:47, Steve Larson wrote:

 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug  
 the
 cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
 on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on
 another machine too, same thing :(((


Here comes my plug for the Sandisk UltraII SD plus USB cards which  
convert into little chips which can be plugged straight into your USB  
ports (no reader required).

Cheap as all get-out at Radio Shack, of all places.  Last I checked it  
was $14.99 for 1 gig, $29.99 for 2 gigs.

Even with the fixed camera, you'll probably enjoy the convenience of  
not HAVING to plug the camera in to get your photos off of it.  One  
less cable/gizmo to pack with you!

  -Charles

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
cool, thanks charles !!

steve
(sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff 
surgery and am typing with my right hand
only, and i'm left handed, lol)


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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


 On May 15, 2008, at 14:47, Steve Larson wrote:

 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug
 the
 cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
 on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on
 another machine too, same thing :(((


 Here comes my plug for the Sandisk UltraII SD plus USB cards which
 convert into little chips which can be plugged straight into your USB
 ports (no reader required).

 Cheap as all get-out at Radio Shack, of all places.  Last I checked it
 was $14.99 for 1 gig, $29.99 for 2 gigs.

 Even with the fixed camera, you'll probably enjoy the convenience of
 not HAVING to plug the camera in to get your photos off of it.  One
 less cable/gizmo to pack with you!

  -Charles

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 cool, thanks charles !!

 steve
 (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff
 surgery and am typing with my right hand
 only, and i'm left handed, lol)

I'm with the other two.  I didn't get a cable with my *istD, but I did
get two CF cards and my laptop has a cardreader, so I just exchange
cards and load from the card.

Easy peasy.

I've since acquired a cord, but I've yet to use it.

cheers,
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff
 surgery and am typing with my right hand
 only, and i'm left handed, lol)

I've never had surgery, but I did break my left collarbone in two
places, and for about a month or more my left hand was completely
paralyzed (the bone was pressing against the nerve).  Lots of fun (I
too am left-handed).

Here's hoping you heal quickly!

cheers,
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread pdml
frank theriault writes: 

 On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
 (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff
 surgery and am typing with my right hand
 only, and i'm left handed, lol)
 
 I've never had surgery, but I did break my left collarbone in two
 places, and for about a month or more my left hand was completely
 paralyzed (the bone was pressing against the nerve).  Lots of fun (I
 too am left-handed). 
 
 Here's hoping you heal quickly! 
 
 cheers,
 frank 
 

what a bunch of wimps, breaking bones all the time! 

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
Thank Knarf!
if all else fails i will get a card reader, and thanks for the kind words :)

steve

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Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


 On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 snip
 (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff
 surgery and am typing with my right hand
 only, and i'm left handed, lol)

 I've never had surgery, but I did break my left collarbone in two
 places, and for about a month or more my left hand was completely
 paralyzed (the bone was pressing against the nerve).  Lots of fun (I
 too am left-handed).

 Here's hoping you heal quickly!

 cheers,
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread David J Brooks
I never used it either, thats why you have it.

LOL

Steve, i have 6 dlsr's and have never plugged them in to a computer.
Sandisk usb 2 card reader(six kinds i think) and works great.

Dave

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:06 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 cool, thanks charles !!

 steve
 (sorry for no caps and quick typing, i'm recovering from rotator cuff
 surgery and am typing with my right hand
 only, and i'm left handed, lol)

 I'm with the other two.  I didn't get a cable with my *istD, but I did
 get two CF cards and my laptop has a cardreader, so I just exchange
 cards and load from the card.

 Easy peasy.

 I've since acquired a cord, but I've yet to use it.

 cheers,
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread pnstenquist
Do you have a card reader? You don't really need (or want) to use the camera to 
download. I've never done that in five years of shooting digital.
Paul
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From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the 
 cable in to DL the pics, I get a message
 on the computer saying that the USB port is overloaded, I tried it on 
 another machine too, same thing :(((
 
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
no sir, don't have one. but from the sounds of it, i need one

thanks paul, dave

steve


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 Do you have a card reader? You don't really need (or want) to use the 
 camera to download. I've never done that in five years of shooting 
 digital.
 Paul
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 Well, seems like the camera shorted or something, the second I plug the
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Larson
Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


 no sir, don't have one. but from the sounds of it, i need one


Get the camera fixed anyway. If the USB port is buggered, something else 
related might fail 
ofter the warranty period.

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
hi bill, i will. i'm going to actually try and swing a deal, there was 
another used ist down
at the camera shop where i bought it, it was another $100 more expensive. 
Maybe we
can work something out *evil grin.

steve


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 From: Steve Larson
 Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


 no sir, don't have one. but from the sounds of it, i need one


 Get the camera fixed anyway. If the USB port is buggered, something else 
 related might fail
 ofter the warranty period.

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Larson
Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


 hi bill, i will. i'm going to actually try and swing a deal, there was 
 another used ist down
 at the camera shop where i bought it, it was another $100 more expensive. 
 Maybe we
 can work something out *evil grin.

Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less

William Robb

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
maybe, but it was a model with more features

 
 Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less
 
 William Robb


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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread pnstenquist
If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
 -- Original message --
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 maybe, but it was a model with more features
 
  
  Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars less
  
  William Robb
 
 
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
writes that down.

steve


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 If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
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 maybe, but it was a model with more features

 
  Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars 
  less
 
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you  
might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism  
viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the  
write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will  
be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a  
battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion.
On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote:

 writes that down.

 steve


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 If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
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 maybe, but it was a model with more features


 Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars
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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Larson
thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i 
ask because the wife wants a
small camera.

steve


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 On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you
 might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism
 viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the
 write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will
 be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a
 battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion.
 On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote:

 writes that down.

 steve


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 If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
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 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 maybe, but it was a model with more features


 Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars
 less

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Re: Taking back the ist ds

2008-05-15 Thread Adam Maas
The DS and DL series are identical externally apart from the LCD (DS
has 2, DS2, DL, DL2 have 2.5). The D is different, with a smaller
grip on a slightly larger body. K-series bodies are larger.

-Adam

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for all the info paul. are the ist body sizes all the same size? i
  ask because the wife wants a
  small camera.

  steve



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 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Taking back the ist ds


   On the other hand, if the more expensive camera is an *ist DL you
   might want to pass. That camera is newer but it doesn't have a prism
   viewfinder. An *ist D might also be more expensive than a DS, but the
   write speed -- the speed at which it records the picture data -- will
   be slower. But it's a more substantial build and can be fitted with a
   battery grip. That one is probably a toss up in my opinion.
   On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Steve Larson wrote:
  
   writes that down.
  
   steve
  
  
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   If it's an *ist DS2 you should go for it.
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   maybe, but it was a model with more features
  
  
   Maybe now you know why the one you bought was a hundred dollars
   less
  
   William Robb
  
  
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