Re: What car?

[John Sessoms]

Looks almost right. The movie car didn't have the louver applique on the
side behind the doors, and this one's missing the rear side reflectors.

https://i2.wp.com/thechicaneblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bullitt-Mustang-How-to.jpg

On 3/30/2017 9:59 PM, Gonz wrote:

Here's a rear view of the beast, sorry for the harsh light, I had just
come out of a "whore house" exhibit and my settings were all wrong for
the outside.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362653240/in/album-72157681930163106/

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Gonz  wrote:

Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
might know for sure.

Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/

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Re: What car?

[Ken Waller]

The Bullitt Mustang was a 1968 fastback with a 390 cubic inch motor and a 4 
speed manual. The 67 and 68 Mustangs were similar looking but the 69 was a 
totally new style.


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>From: Larry <l...@red4est.com>
>Subject: Re: What car?
>
>Nicole is the mustang enthusiast, she has five of them, but I'll guess it to 
>be a '69 fastback. With the twin tail pipes, probably a v8, I don't know off 
>that year still had the 289. But yes, the same basic model as on Bullitt.
>
>On March 30, 2017 6:36:50 PM PDT, Gonz <rgonzoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
>>recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
>>in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
>>might know for sure.
>>
>>Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>>
>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/


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Re: What car?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 30/3/17, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/
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Re: What car?

[Larry]

Nicole is the mustang enthusiast, she has five of them, but I'll guess it to be 
a '69 fastback. With the twin tail pipes, probably a v8, I don't know off that 
year still had the 289. But yes, the same basic model as on Bullitt.

On March 30, 2017 6:36:50 PM PDT, Gonz  wrote:
>Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
>recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
>in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
>might know for sure.
>
>Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/
>
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Re: What car?

[Paul Stenquist]

There are a lot of similar cars out there. They all look like the Movie 
Mustang. Eventually, all except the movie car will all be worth the same as any 
other 67/68 fastback Mustsng. A substantial  amount, but not a fortune.
Paul via phone

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Actually, it's a 1968 Ford Mustang GT. The same car was featured on another 
> website: 
> https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2015/05/On-Target---1968-Ford-Mustang-GT/3748548.html
> 
> It was built as an homage to Steve McQueen's Mustang from "Bullitt" ... I 
> seem to recall reading that the actual car Steve McQueen used in the movie 
> was recently located and restored. It is said that Steve himself wanted to 
> buy it after the movie production was over, but it had already been 
> sold/disappeared. I believe it showed up somewhere in Mexico. 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Hard to judge on my phone, but it looks like a '67 Ford Mustang. Nicole 
>> Jacques is probably the list's best Mustang expert ( and best Mustang 
>> driver), but she's not always here.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
>>> recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
>>> in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
>>> might know for sure.
>>> 
>>> Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/
>>> 
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Re: What car?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Here's the article I saw about the original: 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276962/Mustang-driven-Steve-McQueen-Bullitt-found.html

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Re: What car?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Actually, it's a 1968 Ford Mustang GT. The same car was featured on another 
website: 
https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2015/05/On-Target---1968-Ford-Mustang-GT/3748548.html

It was built as an homage to Steve McQueen's Mustang from "Bullitt" ... I seem 
to recall reading that the actual car Steve McQueen used in the movie was 
recently located and restored. It is said that Steve himself wanted to buy it 
after the movie production was over, but it had already been sold/disappeared. 
I believe it showed up somewhere in Mexico. 

G

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Hard to judge on my phone, but it looks like a '67 Ford Mustang. Nicole 
> Jacques is probably the list's best Mustang expert ( and best Mustang 
> driver), but she's not always here.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
>> recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
>> in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
>> might know for sure.
>> 
>> Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/
>> 
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Re: What car?

[Gonz]

Thanks Paul.  The color looks the same.  You think they may have had
the car painted to look like the Bullitt version?


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Hard to judge on my phone, but it looks like a '67 Ford Mustang. Nicole 
> Jacques is probably the list's best Mustang expert ( and best Mustang 
> driver), but she's not always here.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
>> recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
>> in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
>> might know for sure.
>>
>> Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/
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Re: What car?

[Paul Stenquist]

Hard to judge on my phone, but it looks like a '67 Ford Mustang. Nicole Jacques 
is probably the list's best Mustang expert ( and best Mustang driver), but 
she's not always here.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
> recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
> in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
> might know for sure.
> 
> Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/
> 
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Re: What car?

[Gonz]

Here's a rear view of the beast, sorry for the harsh light, I had just
come out of a "whore house" exhibit and my settings were all wrong for
the outside.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362653240/in/album-72157681930163106/

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
> recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
> in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
> might know for sure.
>
> Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/
>
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What car?

[Gonz]

Hi Paul, Larry, and other car enthusiasts.  Saw this car during a
recent trip out of town.  The color and style reminded me of the car
in "Bullitt", but not sure its the same year/model.  Figured you guys
might know for sure.

Pentax K-1 with 24-80 2.8.  At 1/125 f7.1, ISO 100.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/33362265090/in/album-72157681930163106/

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OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Lasse Karlsson]

Hi all,

Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!

Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little about cars 
in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me make, 
model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336


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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Bob Sullivan]

Lasse,
I would guess that this is a 1958 Cadillac limousine of some sort.
That's based on the tail fin, and the chrome side trim.
I don't think it is a regular production model.
The back door, back side window, and roof line look like a longer car.
Here is a picture of a similar 1958 Cadillac Sedan.
http://www.misterw.com/Cadillac/58Cad4Dr04.html
Regards,  Bob S.


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!

 Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little about cars
 in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me make,
 model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336


 Thanks,
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RE: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Anthony Farr]

Following up on Peter's knowledge, a Google image search found this:
http://luxurycarphotos.tripod.com/58cadillacfleet75_pic3.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/489zps

It appears not to be a modification, but an original factory model, the
Cadillac Fleetwood Series 75, which seemed to have a higher, squarer
roofline than other Cadillac models.  I'm sure when Paul Stenquist sees
Lasse's photo he'll tell us the month it was built, the comp ratio of the
engine and the colour of the upholstery :-)

Regards,
Anthony Farr


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 Lasse,
 I would guess that this is a 1958 Cadillac limousine of some sort.
 That's based on the tail fin, and the chrome side trim.
 I don't think it is a regular production model.
 The back door, back side window, and roof line look like a longer car.
 Here is a picture of a similar 1958 Cadillac Sedan.
 http://www.misterw.com/Cadillac/58Cad4Dr04.html
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 


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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Bob Sullivan]

Very good Dave, that's it!
Popular here as a funeral car for the bereaved family.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Following up on Peter's knowledge, a Google image search found this:
 http://luxurycarphotos.tripod.com/58cadillacfleet75_pic3.jpg
 http://tinyurl.com/489zps

 It appears not to be a modification, but an original factory model, the
 Cadillac Fleetwood Series 75, which seemed to have a higher, squarer
 roofline than other Cadillac models.  I'm sure when Paul Stenquist sees
 Lasse's photo he'll tell us the month it was built, the comp ratio of the
 engine and the colour of the upholstery :-)

 Regards,
 Anthony Farr


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 Lasse,
 I would guess that this is a 1958 Cadillac limousine of some sort.
 That's based on the tail fin, and the chrome side trim.
 I don't think it is a regular production model.
 The back door, back side window, and roof line look like a longer car.
 Here is a picture of a similar 1958 Cadillac Sedan.
 http://www.misterw.com/Cadillac/58Cad4Dr04.html
 Regards,  Bob S.




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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Lasse Karlsson]

Thank you, Anthony! (And everybody else who replied.)

It defnitely looks like you found it.

I might add that the lady behind the car is Marilyn Monroe, probably 
stepping out of one of the 20th Century Fox studios, and I'm just trying to 
find a possible or approximate date for the shot.

At first I was thinking it may have been one of her own cars, she owned and 
drove a few, but then I realized that it might just as well be one from a 
Limo service, which I know she/the studio used quite a lot.

If anybody knows when this model it first hit the market you'll win a 
virtual Marilyn Monroe-badge.

Thanks,
Lasse

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 Following up on Peter's knowledge, a Google image search found this:
 http://luxurycarphotos.tripod.com/58cadillacfleet75_pic3.jpg
 http://tinyurl.com/489zps

 It appears not to be a modification, but an original factory model, the
 Cadillac Fleetwood Series 75, which seemed to have a higher, squarer
 roofline than other Cadillac models.  I'm sure when Paul Stenquist sees
 Lasse's photo he'll tell us the month it was built, the comp ratio of the
 engine and the colour of the upholstery :-)

 Regards,
 Anthony Farr


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 Lasse,
 I would guess that this is a 1958 Cadillac limousine of some sort.
 That's based on the tail fin, and the chrome side trim.
 I don't think it is a regular production model.
 The back door, back side window, and roof line look like a longer car.
 Here is a picture of a similar 1958 Cadillac Sedan.
 http://www.misterw.com/Cadillac/58Cad4Dr04.html
 Regards,  Bob S. 


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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Paul Stenquist]

It appears to be a 1957 Cadillac, probably an Eldorado. It might be a  
1958, but without looking at reference, I'd bet on '57.
The styling changed every year in those days and both the 1956 and  
1959 models are very different.
Paul Stenquist
On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

 Hi all,

 Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!

 Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little  
 about cars
 in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me  
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 model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336


 Thanks,
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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Doug Franklin]

Lasse Karlsson wrote:

 model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336

Sorry, Lasse, that one's before my time.

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RE: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[J. C. O'Connell]

I have no idea what it is but based on styling I'd say its
between '57 and '59 inclusive whatever it is.

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 model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336

Sorry, Lasse, that one's before my time.

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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Lasse Karlsson]

Thanks Paul, thanks Doug and JC.

I thought Anthony nailed it as a Fleetwood Series 75, but I will check out 
the Eldorados from those years too.

Lasse

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 It appears to be a 1957 Cadillac, probably an Eldorado. It might be a
 1958, but without looking at reference, I'd bet on '57.
 The styling changed every year in those days and both the 1956 and
 1959 models are very different.
 Paul Stenquist
 On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

 Hi all,

 Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!

 Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little
 about cars
 in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me
 make,
 model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336


 Thanks,
 Lasse


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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I believe its styling was derived from the Eldorados, but it's  
definitely the Fleetwood Series 75.

G

On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

 Thanks Paul, thanks Doug and JC.

 I thought Anthony nailed it as a Fleetwood Series 75, but I will  
 check out
 the Eldorados from those years too.

 Lasse

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 It appears to be a 1957 Cadillac, probably an Eldorado. It might be a
 1958, but without looking at reference, I'd bet on '57.
 The styling changed every year in those days and both the 1956 and
 1959 models are very different.
 Paul Stenquist
 On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

 Hi all,

 Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!

 Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little
 about cars
 in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me
 make,
 model and production years of the car in the photo at the link  
 below?

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336


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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[pnstenquist]

Anthony is right. It's a limo, so it has to be a Fleetwood.
Paul
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From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thanks Paul, thanks Doug and JC.
 
 I thought Anthony nailed it as a Fleetwood Series 75, but I will check out 
 the Eldorados from those years too.
 
 Lasse
 
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  It appears to be a 1957 Cadillac, probably an Eldorado. It might be a
  1958, but without looking at reference, I'd bet on '57.
  The styling changed every year in those days and both the 1956 and
  1959 models are very different.
  Paul Stenquist
  On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!
 
  Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little
  about cars
  in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me
  make,
  model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336
 
 
  Thanks,
  Lasse
 
 
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Re: OT: For experts on American cars. What car?

[Bob Sullivan]

The Eldorados were often precursors of the next year's model.
The '57 Cadillac was probably on sale from October '56 thru '57.
Regards, Bob S.

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 Anthony is right. It's a limo, so it has to be a Fleetwood.
 Paul
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 From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thanks Paul, thanks Doug and JC.

 I thought Anthony nailed it as a Fleetwood Series 75, but I will check out
 the Eldorados from those years too.

 Lasse

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  It appears to be a 1957 Cadillac, probably an Eldorado. It might be a
  1958, but without looking at reference, I'd bet on '57.
  The styling changed every year in those days and both the 1956 and
  1959 models are very different.
  Paul Stenquist
  On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Summer greetings from the Aland Islands!
 
  Since I know that many PDML-members don't mind talking a little
  about cars
  in between the camera and photo discusssions - can anybody tell me
  make,
  model and production years of the car in the photo at the link below?
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7458336
 
 
  Thanks,
  Lasse
 
 
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