[PEN-L:6380] Re: Mergers and Acquisitions

1999-05-04 Thread MScoleman

This is a really general question, but I need some references and suggestions 
on how to research the trend towards mergers and acquisitions on wall street. 
(I already have Doug's book).  Specifically, how has this affected the rising 
price of stocks, etc.

thanks, maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]






[PEN-L:6381] Re: questions on modest proposals

1999-05-04 Thread Rod Hay

The clever Englishman was actually Irish and his name was Jonathan Swift. 
The modest proposal was that the Irish solve their food and population 
problem by eating their children.




Second, way back when some clever englishman wrote an essay entitled "A
modest proposal", which in similar fashion, I'm told, took classicial
economics to some (horrifically) logical conculsions.  Anyone know about
that piece?  is it "out there" in cyber spaces somehwere?

Many thanks-

Tom

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[PEN-L:6383] Re: Re: Re: Re: modernism

1999-05-04 Thread Doug Henwood

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:

Yes, you did put quotation marks around progress in your original post as
well. What is striking about the present state of capitalist 'progress' is,
though, that capitalism seems to be to a certain extent doing away with
even the ideology of 'progress' for many parts of Africa, Yugoslavia,
Russia, and elsewhere. Even the corporate press are quite open about the
NATO intention of making Kosovo a Euro/American protectorate (an unabashed
declaration of colonialism), for instance. In other words, regress seems to
be spoken of simply as regress, not as an inevitable cost of 'progress.'

Oh, but the protectorate would be in the name of "civilized Western
values," because as everyone knows the people of the Balkans are only
marginally white. And structural adjustment too is imposed in the name of
progress. The bourgeoisie has been quite adept in rebranding 19th century
economic and social policy as forward looking, and welfare state and
developmentalist interventions as backward-looking.

Doug






[PEN-L:6385] Re: Re: Re: Re: partition?

1999-05-04 Thread Charles Brown

Unfortunately, the ruling class thinks as vulgarly and ruthlessly economically as your 
joke here.

CB

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/29/99 04:13PM 
At 03:14 PM 4/29/99 -0500, Ken wrote:
... I think the solution is simple. Milosoevic
should use the southern sites as shields for tanks or guns. NATO will destroy
both site (collateral damage) and military object (legitimate target).
Milosevich will be able to use this as ant-NATO propoganda but the way
will be
cleared, so to speak, for a settlement :)

has anyone considered the possibility of leveling the the entire province
and putting up a WalMart and time-share condos?

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html 
Bombing DESTROYS human rights. US/NATO out of Serbia!






[PEN-L:6387] Hedge-Fund Meltdown

1999-05-04 Thread Seth Sandronsky

Friends,

I read the article below with much concern.  A second Russian debt default 
could make the meltdown of the Long-Term Capital Management "hedge fund" 
look like a walk in the park, no?

Seth Sandronsky

Monday  May 3  1999

 HK issues US with hedge-fund warning

 BARRY PORTER in Manila
 Hong Kong Monetary Authority chief executive
 Joseph Yam Chi-kwong has told the United
 States not to put the interests of American
 hedge funds and other highly leveraged
 institutions ahead of small open markets such
 as Hong Kong.

 He warned the US and other economic
 powerhouses against stalling proposed reforms
 to the world's financial architecture in the wake
 of the economic crisis.

 Mr Yam told a gathering of leading
 international bankers that the many working
 groups set up to review possible global financial
 sector changes were taking "too long".

 "There is always the risk that, when the dust
 has settled, the initiative and enthusiasm, dare I
 say, on the part of those less affected by the
 crisis, may be stifled," Mr Yam said in an
 address to the Institute of International Finance
 in Manila.

 "There is also the risk that the plight of those
 who have been seriously affected by the crisis
 is not given the attention it deserves, simply
 because they do not have an adequately
 representative voice on the issues at hand at
 these international forums."

 Mr Yam said there had been no lack of ideas,
 but these needed to be translated into action
 sooner rather than later.

 He said it was clear highly leveraged institutions
 acted in a calculated, secretive and potentially
 highly destablising way and safeguards were
 needed.

 Mr Yam made three suggestions.

 He called for greater transparency of markets,
 particularly over-the-counter (OTC) markets,
 which, he said, were very opaque and were
 where highly leveraged institutions conducted
 most of their activities.

 "Unlike ordinary exchanges, OTC markets are
 subject to little, if any, transparency or
 regulatory requirements, raising the risk of
 price-ramping, collusion of misconduct," said
 Mr Yam, calling for a better disclosure
 framework.

 He said he supported a German proposal for an
 international credit register, which would collate
 information on the exposures of international
 financial intermediaries to large market players
 that have a potential to create systemic risk.

 He called for highly leveraged institutions and
 hedge funds to be regulated.

 The Basle Committee on Banking Supervision,
 a working group of specialists from the Group
 of 10 leading industrialised nations, has
 recommended indirect regulation whereby
 banks adopt more prudent policies on the
 assessment and management of their exposure
 to such institutions.

 Mr Yam said: "Other tools of indirect
 regulation could include the imposition of
 capital charges on lending to such institutions,
 raising margin and collateral requirements."

 However, he was yet to be convinced that such
 indirect measures could adequately protect
 smaller markets like Hong Kong from
 overwhelming speculative onslaughts.

 Finally, the HKMA chief said there was a need
 for international co-operation to tackle
 regulatory arbitrage, in order to penalise highly
 leveraged institutions trying to escape any new
 market environment.

 He suggested higher risk weights for
 counter-party transactions for banks doing
 business with financial entities operating out of
 offshore jurisdictions that did not comply with
 Basle core principles.

 However, Mr Yam stressed he was not against
 free markets and warned that a delicate
 balancing act would be required not to impose
 over-heavy reporting burdens or infringe too
 much on proprietary information of individual
 institutions.

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[PEN-L:6388] Re: FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread Michael Hoover

 IN THIS MESSAGE:   Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's
 Glittering Prize
  Chapter 4a, Article I -- "The economy of Kosovo, shall function in
  accordance with free market principles."
 It is crystal clear whose interests are being advanced here: Kosovo has
 substantial mineral resources, including the richest mines for lead,
 molybdenum, mercury and other metals in all of Europe. Obviously one cannot
 leave the control over such resources to an independent Yugoslavia.

Kosovo also has the largest lignite field in Europe...Michael Hoover






[PEN-L:6389] Re: Hedge-Fund Meltdown

1999-05-04 Thread Doug Henwood

Seth Sandronsky wrote:

I read the article below with much concern.  A second Russian debt default
could make the meltdown of the Long-Term Capital Management "hedge fund"
look like a walk in the park, no?

Come on, confess - you're not really worried about that, you'd kind of
welcome it. No?

Doug






[PEN-L:6390] Re: Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby

1999-05-04 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

  I am one of the many on this list who has
yet to figure out what on earth was racist about
Max's original play on Henry's name.  However, 
once it was clear that Henry objected for whatever
reasons to having his name fooled around with,
it was inappropriate for Max to do it some more.
  Max has withdrawn I believe partly out of 
exhaustion.  After all, with Nathan laying low, Max
has been the sole defender of the war in Yugoslavia
on this list, or at least the sole open such defender.
I think it got to him and I think he resented being 
called "evil" by Henry.  I have encouraged him off
list to return after a suitable cooling off period.  I
don't know if he will or not.
  I remain opposed to the bombing.  But I would
remind people on this list that it is unwise to be too
self-righteous about all this.  We may sneer at all the
self-styled progressives who are supporting the bombing.
But it is a serious position and they are not all doing it
to kiss somebody's derrriere or to win favors or positions
in the US Congress, or whatever.  There are a lot of people
who see the trains and the refugees and think, "Holocaust."
That this is not an appropriate analogy is for us to convince
them of, not to presume that such an analogy is automatically
idiotic or immoral.
Barkley Rosser
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:40 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6370] Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby


Max made a joke about Henry's name which Henry interpreted as a 
racist response and protested.  In response, Max came back with 
an even more obnoxious joke using Henry's name that I for one 
found obnoxious and, in the context of making fun of ones name 
after having been asked not to do so, I found intolerable on what is 
supposed to be a 'socialist' list.  Henry interpreted it as racist and 
having made that point, when Max compounded the offense, I could 
only conclude that Max was insensitive to the racial offense he was 
giving.  Thus, I hope that Max would withdraw until he calms down 
and becomes a little more sensitive to others on the list.  And I 
don't mean on the Kosovo situation as I tried to indicate, perhaps 
not very clearly.  But since he is not on the list, I will not try to 
debate his position now.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba

 I'm all for flogging Max for his horrible position on Kosovo, but what
 did he write that was of a "racist tone"?  
 
 
 Bill
 







[PEN-L:6391] Re: questions on modest proposals

1999-05-04 Thread Tom Walker

It's hard to say for sure, but reading Summers' concluding section does make
it seem to me he _was_ being ironic and provocative, but in a most cynical
way. The memo slyly acknowledges the inherently evil logic of liberalization
but does so in order to ask, in effect, "how far can we go? how much can we
get away with?" He seems to clearly recognize that the line between the
acceptable and the unacceptable is rhetorical, not logical.

I would compare this memo with the Javier Solana statement on NATO's "moral
responsibility". If you haven't read that, please do [PEN-L:6375]. It is a
statement that has no intention of being believed. Every claim in the
argument is so unqualified, so unambiguous and so self-righteous as to call
attention to the impossibility of such a absolute state of moral certitude.
It is a self-affirmation entirely devoid of self-reflection. It is a
rhetoric of terror, not of morality. 

There is a direct line from Summers' irony to Solana's terrorism. That line
passes through Clinton's sexual conduct and grand jury testimony and through
Littleton, Colorado. It is a line of strategic, distorted communications; of
technical rationality unmediated by ethical reflection. This is the
Habermasian socio-cultural motivation crisis whipped into a frenzy.

World Bank chief economist Lawrence Summers, who now claims he was being
ironic and provocative.

He concluded this
section by saying that disagreement with this logic suggests the belief
that things like "intrinsic rights to certain goods, moral reasons,
social concerns, lack of adequate markets, etc. could be turned around
and used more or less effectively against every Bank proposal for
liberalization." Exactly; as they should be.


regards,

Tom Walker
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/timework/covenant.htm







[PEN-L:6393] BLS Daily Report

1999-05-04 Thread Richardson_D

 BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, MAY 3, 1999:
 
 More than half (57 percent) of all youths work at some time while age 14,
 mostly in freelance jobs, according to a new survey by BLS.  The findings
 represent the first round of the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth
 1997, a nationally representative sample of 9,022 young men and women who
 were 12 to 16 years old on December 31, 1996.  The survey provides
 information on employment experiences, schooling, family background, and
 social behavior (Daily Labor Report, page D-13).
 
 The U.S. economy grew at a 4.5 percent annual rate in the first quarter,
 as consumers spending boomed, the Commerce Department reports.  Personal
 consumption surged 6.7 percent (Daily Labor Report, page D-3).
 __As American consumers continued their shopping spree, increasing their
 spending at the fastest pace in more than a decade, the U.S. economy grew
 at a stronger than expected 4.5 percent annual rate in the first 3 months
 of the year, the Commerce Department reported yesterday. Consumers spend
 more than they received in current after-tax income, snapping up new motor
 vehicles, furniture, clothing and a variety of services.  That meant that
 households had to borrow or dip into savings to cover the difference,
 driving the personal savings rate to an all-time low of minus 0.5 percent.
 Consumers appear emboldened by a variety of factors, including plentiful
 jobs, rising wages, low interest rates, low inflation and rising household
 wealth because of the soaring stock market and solid real estate markets.
 Nonetheless, economists and financial analysts keep expecting consumer
 spending gains to drop back so that they are more in line with increases
 in current income (John M.Berry, in The Washington Post, May 1, page 1).
 __America's economic boom -- already the second longest on record -- shows
 no signs of flagging.  Despite a declined in auto production and another
 sharp deterioration in the trade balance, the United States economy grew
 at a surprisingly robust rate during the first quarter of 1999 (Sylvia
 Nasar, in The New York Times, page 1).
 __Consumers were buying up everything in sight in the first quarter of
 1999, keeping the U.S. economy roaring ahead despite a worsening trade
 deficit.  Over the 4 quarters of 1998, the U.S. economy expanded by 4.3
 percent.  The GDP, or the value of all goods and services produced in the
 U.S., shot up at a 4.5 percent annual rate in the first quarter of 1999,
 following a stunning surge of 6 percent in the fourth quarter or 1998 (The
 Wall Street Journal, page A2).  Throughout April, investor enthusiasm over
 a recovering global economy and firming commodity prices sent the stocks
 of economically sensitive companies through the roof.  Yet this positive
 sign could have its unpleasant flipside.  Could a stronger economy and
 stronger commodity prices feed inflation pressure, drive up interest rates
 and undermine one of the most richly valued stock markets ever? (The Wall
 Street Journal, page C1).
 
 Although analysts have been predicting a moderation in consumer spending
 and overall economic growth for some time, U.S. households have continued
 to defy those forecasts, using net worth, low interest rats, and falling
 import prices to fuel their demand for goods and services.  Yet there are
 some tangible signs, suggesting that consumers are starting to rein in
 their purchases, a notion supported by the upswing in April tax payments,
 higher long-term interest rates, and a decline in weekly saving.
 Generally, economists contacted by the Bureau of National Affairs, say
 consumer spending should slow to about half of its first-quarter pace in
 the April-June period, with outlays forecast to advance to about a 3
 percent annual rate rather than the lofty 6.7 percent pace charted at the
 start of 1999.  With consumer expenditures accounting for two-thirds of
 total U.S. economic activity, that still would yield an overall growth
 rate of about 2.5 to 3.4 percent for the second quarter, analysts say
 (Daily Labor Report, page D-1).
 
 Real, inflation-adjusted, wages have finally surpassed their 1989 level
 after stagnating or failing through much of this economic expansion, an
 Economic Policy Institute report indicates. Tight labor markets,
 especially during the past year, have helped raise the wages of workers,
 particularly in the last few years, according to the article "Real Median
 Wages Finally Recover 1989 Level," in the inaugural issue of EPI's
 "Quarterly Wage and Employment Series". By the end of 1998, average real
 wages were 1.6 percent higher than in 1989.  Wage growth and low inflation
 have especially helped low-income groups, the report by EPI economist
 Jared Bernstein said.  Unemployment levels fell to a 29-year low of 4.3
 percent in 1998, greatly benefiting low- and middle-wage workers,
 according to the report (Daily Labor Report, page A2).
 
 Coal exports to Europe from West Virginia, Kentucky and 

[PEN-L:6394] Re: Greenspan on Foreign Exchange Management

1999-05-04 Thread Henry C.K. Liu

The importance of Greenspan's utterances lie not in his wisdom but on
the self-fulfilling impact his power.
Greenspan allows: "The distributions of income that arise in unregulated
markets have been presumed unacceptable by most modern societies, and
they have endeavored, through fiscal policies and regulation, to alter
the outcomes."

He admits: "We in the United States built up modest reserve balances of
DM and yen only when we perceived that the foreign exchange value of the
dollar was no longer something to which we could be indifferent, as
when, in the late 1970s, our international trade went into chronic
deficit, inflation accelerated, and international confidence in the
dollar ebbed."
In other words, the US uses reserves in foreign currency not to buttress
or stabilize the value of its own as reflected by market fundamentals,
but as a tool to manage international trade to its advantage.

After listing some technical reforms that he admits may not be
sufficient or even relevant, Greenspan summarizes:
"The adoption of any rule is not a substitute for appropriate
macroeconomic, exchange rate, and financial sector policies. Indeed, the
endeavor to substitute such a regime for the more difficult fundamentals
of sound policy will surely fail."
It is a "do as I say, but not as I do" statement.

Greenspan concludes:  "Over the medium term, it would be desirable for
emerging market economies to develop a more sophisticated approach to
the problem of managing their liquidity.
There is an obvious connection between "value-at-risk" techniques used
by large financial institutions to manage their exposure to risk and the
liquidity-at-risk approach proposed here. It would be productive were
those large financial institutions to play a role in helping countries
develop their own capabilities to implement this approach, perhaps with
technical assistance from G-7 supervisory authorities and international
financial institutions."

There are two problems with this conclusion.
1) It is the very attempt by emerging market economies to develop a more
sophisticated approach to the problem of managing their liquidity and
risk that gave birth to the rapid growth of the global foreign exchange
markets and the field of sophisticated structured finance of derivatives
in the last decade that had brought on the global financial crises.
Greenspan seems to be advocating an increase rate of mutation of the
virus to boost the resistance of the patients.
2) Greenspan's advice for emerging economies to adopt the
"value-at-risk" techniques used by large financial institutions to
manage their exposure to risk will only reduce sovereign governments to
the status of commercial enterprises.  Unlike multinationals,
governments cannot use mass lay-off and market retrenchment as
management tools for maximize profit and pass the burden to society at
large.  This is a point that the US dominated IMF has yet to fully
grasped.

Henry C.K. Liu


"William F. Hummel" wrote:

 On April 29, Alan Greenspan gave a very interesting speech at the
 World Bank Conference in Washington DC yesterday.  I would be
 interested to hear PK views on it.  The speech can be found
 http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/1999/19990429.htm

 William F Hummel






[PEN-L:6397] Free Trade Road Show

1999-05-04 Thread Robert Naiman

   The Wall Street Journal
  Copyright (c) 1999, Dow Jones  Company, Inc.

   Tuesday, May 4, 1999

 Politics  Policy

   Tour by Commerce Secretary to Sell China-WTO Deal Is Joined by Few
CEOs
 By Helene Cooper
 Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal

FALL RIVER, Mass. -- The yellow van carrying protesters pursued Commerce
Secretary
  William Daley's deluxe motor coach yesterday all the way from Boston to
this city of
defunct textile mills and then on to Rhode Island. On its side was a huge
sign: Free Trade Fat
Cats on Board.

But actually, there were few fat cats to be found. Abandoned by the chief
executive officers who
pledged to help him sell China's entry into the World Trade Organization to
Congress and the
public, Mr. Daley nonetheless gamely began his five region bus tour to
preach the benefits of
free trade to the common folks.

Mr. Daley's "National Trade Education Tour" was billed as a chance for U.S.
executives to talk
to workers across the country about the benefits of trade. Last month,
during a news conference
announcing the tour, six corporate chieftains, including Dana Mead of
Tenneco Inc., Michael
Armstrong of ATT Corp. and Phil Condit of Boeing Co., flanked Mr. Daley,
pledging their
participation.

Yesterday, however, the only chief executives on the bus were Larry
Liebenow, head of local
upholstery plant Quaker Fabric Corp., and Jack Manning of Boston Capital.
The only
big-company chieftain to be seen yesterday was Ray Gilmartin, CEO of Merck 
Co., who
showed up only to say a few words at a breakfast meeting.

"I saw my role this morning as one to thank everyone," Mr. Gilmartin said,
when asked why he
and other CEOs weren't joining the tour. "Someone more involved in the
community, like Quaker
Fabric, is better to talk to the local community."

Aides said Mr. Mead of Tenneco pulled out of the tour because of last week's
announcement of
the company's breakup into two parts, and Mr. Condit never intended to join
this part of the tour,
anyway. More executives may join other legs of the trip, said lobbyists with
the Business
Roundtable, which represents 200 big companies and is partly sponsoring the
tour.

The U.S. and China are in the final stages of working out a deal that would
let China join the
WTO, a move that amounts to joining the trade world's major leagues. Under
terms of the deal
being negotiated, China would make big concessions in many areas of its
economy, opening
them to competition from abroad.

Nevertheless, it will be tough to sell such a deal to a skeptical Congress
that is obsessed with
Chinese spying and repression of human rights. The CEOs had signed up to
convince people
outside of Washington that the deal is in America's interest anyway, and
thus put pressure on
lawmakers to approve it.

Environmental and labor activists trailing the tour were quick to seize on
the corporate pullout as
a signal that Big Business doesn't care about the locals. "I'm not too
surprised," said John
Demeter, one activist. The CEOs, he said, "were probably very busy counting
up their
compensation packages." Of course, those same activists were equally quick
to scoff at the
notion of the tour to begin with. One group, the Citizens Trade Campaign,
called the tour "goofy"
and "self-serving baloney."

The weak business support highlights a growing concern among Clinton
administration officials
that big business will leave the job of selling a China-WTO agreement to
them. Senior Clinton
officials, from Mr. Daley to Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin to U.S. Trade
Representative
Charlene Barshefsky, all say that corporate America must help sell the
China-WTO deal. If it
doesn't mount a big effort to convince Congress and the American public that
the deal is
important to the country's economic health, the issue will be dead on
arrival in a Republican-led
Congress that has become increasingly hostile to President Clinton's China
policy.

In particular, Clinton officials want business to help mute criticism from
Senate Majority Leader
Trent Lott (R., Miss.), whose opposition to a China deal could be critical.

Mr. Daley yesterday took pains not to publicly criticize the missing CEOs.
Still, he said,
"obviously their insight would have been helpful to those who have a
problem" with trade
liberalization.

There were plenty of people in Fall River with such a problem. While this
mill city has come
back from the 17% unemployment rates of a decade ago, thousands of workers
here have seen
their jobs go overseas. Significantly, the China issue has particular
resonance here because
many textile and apparel workers believe they have lost their jobs to cheap
imports.

"We're losing our jobs left and right to China," said Suzanne Almeida, a 45-
year-old employee
at a local lingerie mill. Ms. Almeida and about 20 other workers showed up
at Al Macs Diner to
confront 

[PEN-L:6398] Re: FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accordproposal; Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread Charles Brown

Sounds like part of a potential vulgar materialist motive for war.

Charles Brown

 "Michael Hoover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 11:42AM 
 IN THIS MESSAGE:   Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's
 Glittering Prize
  Chapter 4a, Article I -- "The economy of Kosovo, shall function in
  accordance with free market principles."
 It is crystal clear whose interests are being advanced here: Kosovo has
 substantial mineral resources, including the richest mines for lead,
 molybdenum, mercury and other metals in all of Europe. Obviously one cannot
 leave the control over such resources to an independent Yugoslavia.

Kosovo also has the largest lignite field in Europe...Michael Hoover






[PEN-L:6399] FW: (mai) Two stories on the battle for WTO Director-General Position

1999-05-04 Thread Lisa Ian Murray



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Margrete Strand-Rangnes
 Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 9:06 AM
 Subject: (mai) Two stories on the battle for WTO Director-General
 Position


 BATTLE ROYAL FOR WTO LEADER'S POST

 By Martin Khor
 (Director, Third World Network, an international NGO based in Penang,
 Malaysia).


 Blurb:The months-long contest for the job of  Director-General of the
 World Trade Organisation has reached a dramatic and less-than-pleasant
 climax.  Supporters of Mike Moore, former New Zealand Prime
 Minister, claim
 victory.  They want Thai Deputy Premier, Dr Supachai Panitchpakdi to
 withdraw.  But the countries supporting Supachai claim that he has led in
 support all the while until manipulation by big players
 intensified.  They
 are calling for a vote, which is being resisted by the US and some other
 countries.  Underlying the bitter fight is a strong feeling by many
 developing countries that the WTO's decision-making process is
 again being
 manipulated in an undemocratic way to suit the interests of major powers.

 


 The fight over who becomes the next Director-General of the World Trade
 Organisation has turned both dramatic and nasty over the past few days in
 Geneva.

 The issue has gone beyond whether Thai Deputy Premier Supachai
 Panitchpakdi
 or former New Zealand Prime Minister Mike Moore is the better candidate.

 At stake is the credibility of the WTO itself, as the months-old selection
 process has raised questions about the way key decisions are made and how
 the organisation  seems to be susceptible to the influence of a few major
 powers, especially the United States.

 Supachai is strongly backed by the Asean group in WTO and other Asian
 countries (including Japan and India), a majority of African
 countries, some
 European countries and a few key Latin American (Brazil and Mexico) and
 Central American countries.  He is thus seen as a candidate of the
 developing world.

 Moore however has the support of the United States, a key and perhaps
 decisive factor, since the US wields such enormous power at the
 WTO.  He is
 also backed by many European countries (especially France), most Latin
 American and some African countries.

 Previous Directors General of the GATT (the predecesor of the WTO) and the
 WTO have all come from developed countries, especially from Europe. It had
 been said at the time Renato Ruggiero, an Italian, was made D-G
 in 1995 that
 the next appointment would go to a candidate from a developing country.

 That would be fair, for after all the vast majority of the WTO's  members
 are developing countries.  And Supachai seemed an appropriate
 choice, given
 his experience as Commerce Minister and Deputy Premier and his scholarly
 record (he holds a PhD in Economics, specialising in development
 planning).

 Moore too has an interesting history, having risen from trade union leader
 to Trade Minister and Prime Minister.

 The WTO members agreed that both candidates were excellent and
 suitable. In
 that case, many argued, Supachai should be given the advantage since he is
 from the developing world.

 Indeed, for the past few months, Supachai has been ahead in the race,
 commanding a clear majority support.   In a normal democratic procedure,
 involving some kind of vote, he would have been acclaimed the victor.

 But in the queer process of the WTO, decisions are made by "consensus."
 This theoretically means that everyone should agree or at least no one
 should object.

 Given such a vague concept, "consensus" has often really meant that
 decisions can be made only when the major powers, particularly the US,
 agree.At meeting after meeting at the WTO,  no "consensus" could be
 reached to approve of Supachai, even though it was widely known
 he had clear
 majority support.

 Then in the past two weeks, intense campaigning was made on Moore's behalf
 by the US.  It is widely known that Washington made use of its extensive
 network and influence to contact the governments of many developing
 countries and persuade them to change their mind in Moore's favour.

 Then, at a marathon WTO session last Friday that went well past midnight,
 the chairman of the WTO council, the Tanzanian Ambassador, Ali
 Mchumo, made
 a controversial opening speech, announcing that "the latest evaluation
 indicates" that Moore had the support of 62 countries against 59 for
 Supachai.He proposed that Moore be appointed the D-G.

 This raised a storm of controversy from Asean and other delegations
 supporting Supachai.They felt that the selection process had been
 manipulated, as there had been no announcement by the Chairman of
 the levels
 of support of the two candidates at previous meetings when it had
 been clear
 that Supachai enjoyed a clear lead.

 Moreover it was by no means clear how the "evaluation" or head count had
 been done, and by who, or when.

 Many countries 

[PEN-L:6400] Re: Re: FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accordproposal; Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

  We've already heard about the mines of Kosmet
as an alleged material cause.  It just does not fly.
Is mining all that profitable these days?  Why should
European or US capitalists give a hoot and not just
buy the stuff, given that prices have not been all that
high lately?  I'm sorry, but I don't believe mining interests
were whispering in Madeleine Albright's ear on January
17 when she convinced the national security group to
recommend bombing Yugoslavia if there was no
signature at Rambouillet.
 (That European and US capital would like to see
free market capitalism extended to Yugoslavia is quite
another kettle of fish.)
  As for lignite, what a joke!  The stuff is highly
polluting and not particularly desired by anybody
anymore, although it might be acceptable in poorer
and more polluted countries like  (Larry Summers
would approve  ).
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 12:32 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6398] Re: FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accordproposal;
Kosovo's


Sounds like part of a potential vulgar materialist motive for war.

Charles Brown

 "Michael Hoover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 11:42AM 
 IN THIS MESSAGE:   Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's
 Glittering Prize
  Chapter 4a, Article I -- "The economy of Kosovo, shall function in
  accordance with free market principles."
 It is crystal clear whose interests are being advanced here: Kosovo has
 substantial mineral resources, including the richest mines for lead,
 molybdenum, mercury and other metals in all of Europe. Obviously one
cannot
 leave the control over such resources to an independent Yugoslavia.

Kosovo also has the largest lignite field in Europe...Michael Hoover








[PEN-L:6403] Re: Re: FWD: Appendix B to RambouilletAccordproposal; Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread Charles Brown

Ok lets eliminate that one. I would like to add to the list of eliminated 
explanations: humanitarian rescue, anti-fascism , muddling through not knowing what 
they are doing. having no economic master plan and no material motives whatsoever, 
free floating machoism, 

What is the DEFINITE combination of causes for the war ? Could the mines be part of a 
COMBINATION of material motives ? Does such a combination  include seeking to exploit  
the labor of Yugoslavians as by the Rambouillet Appendix B provision requiring a 
"free" market in Kosovo ? making  Yugoslavia an example to others to forestall the 
unravelling of neo-colonialism in the former socialist countries and other countries 
similar to Yugoslavia in its relationship to the U.S., Germany, Britain, France and 
other neo-imperialist countries ?

Are you saying that this war has no material cause or combination of material causes 
whatsoever ? No main material cause or main combination of causes ? That its main 
cause is not material ?  That it is random ? 


Charles Brown




 "J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 12:50PM 
  We've already heard about the mines of Kosmet
as an alleged material cause.  It just does not fly.
Is mining all that profitable these days?  Why should
European or US capitalists give a hoot and not just
buy the stuff, given that prices have not been all that
high lately?  I'm sorry, but I don't believe mining interests
were whispering in Madeleine Albright's ear on January
17 when she convinced the national security group to
recommend bombing Yugoslavia if there was no
signature at Rambouillet.
 (That European and US capital would like to see
free market capitalism extended to Yugoslavia is quite
another kettle of fish.)
  As for lignite, what a joke!  The stuff is highly
polluting and not particularly desired by anybody
anymore, although it might be acceptable in poorer
and more polluted countries like  (Larry Summers
would approve  ).
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 12:32 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6398] Re: FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accordproposal;
Kosovo's


Sounds like part of a potential vulgar materialist motive for war.

Charles Brown

 "Michael Hoover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 11:42AM 
 IN THIS MESSAGE:   Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's
 Glittering Prize
  Chapter 4a, Article I -- "The economy of Kosovo, shall function in
  accordance with free market principles."
 It is crystal clear whose interests are being advanced here: Kosovo has
 substantial mineral resources, including the richest mines for lead,
 molybdenum, mercury and other metals in all of Europe. Obviously one
cannot
 leave the control over such resources to an independent Yugoslavia.

Kosovo also has the largest lignite field in Europe...Michael Hoover








[PEN-L:6404] Re: (Fwd) A WAR AGAINST ALL OF THE SERBS

1999-05-04 Thread Ricardo Duchesne

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 2 May 1999 22:20:03 -0500
 Subject:   [PEN-L:6319] (Fwd) A WAR AGAINST ALL OF THE SERBS
 Priority:  normal
 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
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 Date sent:Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:32:25 -0700
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 From: Sid Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  A WAR AGAINST ALL OF THE SERBS
 
 The Chicago Tribune   April 29, 1999
 
 A WAR AGAINST ALL OF THE SERBS
 
   It's hard to justify a policy whose chief achievement _ and possiblyits
 main purpose _ is to make life miserable, frightening and dangerous for
 people who have no control over what is going on in   Kosovo.
 
   By Steve Chapman
 
   War is to morality what the desert is to fish: a uniformly 
 inhospitable clime. That's true even if the war is small and limited. 
 The air campaign in Yugoslavia was conceived as a brief, surgical 
 strike on Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic and his murderous 
 military and paramilitary forces. But in five short weeks, it has 
 expanded into a war on one group of his victims: the Serbian 
 people. After bombing and re-bombing all the strictly military sites 
 it could find, without inducing Milosevic to surrender, NATO 
 expanded its list to include facilities whose destruction will do the 
 most harm to civilians. NATO Allied Supreme Commander Gen. 
 Wesley Clark, an advocate of what is known as "bringing the war 
 home to Belgrade," finally got permission to take out mainstays of 
 the Serbian economy, including the nation's electric power grid.
   Purely economic facilities were originally off-limits, but The 
 Wall Street Journal reports that this "restriction is slipping almost 
 daily." NATO is also planning a naval blockade to cut off Serbia's 
 oil supplies.
   Even many of the attacks on "military" targets have had far less 
 effect on Milosevic's campaign of terror than on the daily life of his 
 long-suffering populace. Rail lines have been severed, industrial 
 plants flattened and bridges demolished. Often, bystanders have 
 found themselves classified, posthumously, as "collateral damage." 
 Travel is hazardous, and just getting to work can be nearly 
 impossible. Last week, at least 10 employees were killed when 
 allied warplanes blasted a most unmilitary target--the official state 
 television station in Belgrade. Why? Because "it has filled the 
 airwaves with ... lies over the years," said a NATO spokesman. 
 Well, so has Bill Clinton, but NATO hasn't fired any cruise missiles 
 at the White House.
   The alliance deserves some credit for clearly going out of its 
 way to minimize direct civilian casualties. It also can be excused if 
 some strikes unavoidably kill non-combatants. But it's hard to 
 justify a policy whose chief achievement--and possibly its main 
 purpose--is to make life miserable, frightening and dangerous for 
 people who have no control over what is going on in Kosovo.
   The apparent goal is to inflict so much pain as to force 
 Milosevic to change his policies or to force his people to change 
 rulers. "We're holding civilians hostage," says DePaul University 
 political scientist Patrick Callahan, an expert on just-war theory.
   He may not get an argument from German Gen. Klaus 
 Naumann, chairman of NATO's military committee, who says 
 Yugoslavia has been set back economically by 10 years and figures 
 that the air campaign could eventually turn the clock back half a 
 century. Naumann warns that if Milosevic doesn't retreat, "he may 
 end up being the ruler of rubble." NATO, in short, plans to reduce a 
 country that is home to 10 million people to a huge pile of 
 worthless debris.
   New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, the most fervent 
 supporter of the air war, endorses that approach, telling the Serbs, 
 "Every week you ravage Kosovo is another decade we will set your 
 country back by pulverizing you. You want 1950? We can do 1950. 
 You want 1398? We can do 1398, too." Why stop at 1398? Why 
 not revive the idea, proposed but never adopted in Vietnam, of 
 bombing the enemy all the way back to the Stone Age?
   If the aerial onslaught continues month after month, as 
 threatened, some civilians will be blown up, but many more will be 
 endangered by the secondary effects--food shortages, lack of fuel, 
 loss of medicines, destruction of water, sewage and sanitation 
 systems, poorly functioning hospitals, and the like. In Iraq, the 
 international economic embargo already has had these 
 consequences, causing some 90,000 deaths a year, by United 
 Nations estimates.
   In Yugoslavia, as in Iraq, it's unlikely that punishing the villain's 
 subjects will advance our larger purpose. Disrupting transportation 
 hasn't stopped or even slowed the Serb offensive 

[PEN-L:6406] BLS Daily Report

1999-05-04 Thread Richardson_D

 BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MAY 4, 1999:
 
 Today's News Release:  "Productivity by Industry: Service Sector and
 Mining, 1997" reports on labor productivity changes in 1997 for selected
 industries in the service and the mining sectors of the U.S. economy.
 Labor productivity -- defined as output per hour -- rose in 1997 for most
 of the industries measured by BLS in these sectors. In 1997, output per
 hour increased in 74 percent of the service and mining industries, as
 measured at the 3-digit level of the SIC Manual.  Output, which is the
 production of goods and services, rose in 81 percent of the industries at
 the 3-digit level, while hours of labor rose in 72 percent of the
 industries.
 
 A Labor Department survey found that more than half of 14- and
 15-year-olds are employed.  According to the survey, 57 percent of
 14-year-olds work in some capacity, while 64 percent of 15-year-olds a re
 employed (The New York Times, page A12).
 
 The nation's manufacturing sector continued to grow in April, with a
 broader-based gain but slower pace than in March, the National Association
 of Purchasing Management says.  Although the purchasing managers' index
 was slightly lower in April at 52.8 percent, growth was unabated.  Despite
 healthy economic demand, however, factory payrolls continued to shrink in
 April, although at a slower pace than in March.  The employment index
 stood at 49.5 percent, up from 48 percent in March. "The industrial sector
 is firming, but certainly not booming," according to a Merrill Lynch
 economist (Daily Labor Report, page A-2).
 __Manufacturing grew in April for the third consecutive month, and
 personal income and spending and construction spending all rose in March,
 a private industry survey and Government reports showed today.  "The
 economy looks like it still has lots of momentum," said an economist at
 Standard  Poor's DRI in Lexington, Mass.  "Manufacturing looks reasonably
 good.  Consumer spending is rising.  Housing is strong."  The National
 Association of Purchasing Management's factory index was 52.8 last month.
 While that was down from a March reading of 54.3, it was still the third
 consecutive monthly reading above 50, indicating more businesses reported
 improved conditions than showed declines.  On the inflation front, the
 purchasing association reported its index of prices paid rose to 49.9 in
 April from 43.2 during March, an indication that more companies reported
 price increases during the month (Bloomberg News, in an article in The New
 York Times, page C6).
 __The nation's purchasing executives said that manufacturing activity
 continued to grow in April, but at a slower pace than the month before.
 Meanwhile, other sectors of the economy continued to produce positive
 news. The Commerce Department said personal income and consumption both
 rose moderately in March, but the savings rate has remained negative for 4
 consecutive months.  It also said construction spending rose 0.5 percent
 in March (The Wall Street Journal, page A2; The Journal's page 1 chart is
 of the Purchasing Management Index, 1997 to the present).  
 
 Personal income rose 0.4 percent in March, the same pace as spending, the
 Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis reports.  Private
 industry wages and salaries rose 0.2 percent in March, after advancing 0.6
 percent in February.  Manufacturing wages and salaries decreased 0.1
 percent in March after a 0.3 percent February gain. Service industries
 wages and salaries rose 0.6 percent in March, following a 0.8 percent jump
 in February (Daily Labor Report, page D-1).
 __Personal income and personal spending grew at a slower rate in March
 than in previous months, but both continued to rise at a hefty 5 percent
 annual rate, the Commerce Department reports.  Analysts said the March
 figures indicated the economy entered the second quarter on a somewhat
 less exuberant note, and some forecasters said the economy is likely to
 grow this spring at a 3 to 3.5 percent pace, down from 4.5 percent in the
 first 3 months of the year and a roaring 6 percent rate in the fourth
 quarter of last year. Meanwhile the National Association of Purchasing
 Management's monthly index of conditions in the manufacturing sector of
 the economy slipped to 52.8 last month, from 54.3 in March, indicating
 that conditions are still improving but at a slower rate.  In another
 indication of solid U.S. economic growth, Commerce said the value in March
 of construction work on homes, office buildings, factories, hospitals,
 roads and other structures was up only slightly from February, but was 11
 percent higher than in March 1998 (John M. Berry, writing in The
 Washington Post, page E2).
 
 Both private and public-sector construction reached record levels in
 March, contradicting economists' predictions of a slight decline, the
 Census Bureau reports (Daily Labor Report, page A-4).
 
 Warning that American future retirement security depends on 

[PEN-L:6409] Re: Re: Re: FWD: Appendix B to RambouilletAccordproposal;Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 02:04 PM 5/4/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
Are you saying that this war has no material cause or combination of
material causes whatsoever ? No main material cause or main combination of
causes ? That its main cause is not material ?  That it is random ? 


Charles, why is it so difficult to accept that powers that be make blunders
and screw things up from time to time, sometimes even royally?

Wojtek






[PEN-L:6408] Re: Re: Re: FWD: Appendix B to RambouilletAccordproposal; Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

At 12:50 PM 5/4/99 -0400, Barkley Rosser wrote:
  As for lignite, what a joke!  The stuff is highly
polluting and not particularly desired by anybody
anymore, although it might be acceptable in poorer
and more polluted countries like  (Larry Summers
would approve  ).


Exactly. DDR used it to fuel its power plants, making Saxony one of most
polluted areas of Europe, but after the "anschluss" these plants were first
to close.

Wojtek






[PEN-L:6411] Death of 'Progress' (was Re: modernism)

1999-05-04 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

Doug wrote:
Oh, but the protectorate would be in the name of "civilized Western
values," because as everyone knows the people of the Balkans are only
marginally white. And structural adjustment too is imposed in the name of
progress. The bourgeoisie has been quite adept in rebranding 19th century
economic and social policy as forward looking, and welfare state and
developmentalist interventions as backward-looking.

They may want to sell it, but marketing efforts seem sporadic +
half-hearted (probably because they don't believe it either). Besides, do
people buy it? What I see in American people's responses to the Clinton
Administration's Kosovo policy, for instance, is mainly indifference or
acquiescence, along with smaller currents of distrust, anger, and
hostility. As far as I know, only cruise-missile liberals + social
democrats (_very few_ in number) who belong to the _opinion-making
professions_ talk and act like as if they bought it. It's hard to sell
MacJobs, sweatshops, deindustrialization, pauperization, debt peonage, 
colonialism as the way forward in 1999. People aren't as naive as Susan
Sontag.

The way I see it, neither the ruling class nor the working class believe in
the rhetoric of 'progress' any longer. The working class seem committed to
a Machiavellian relativism as much as the ruling class are; it's just that
the working class version is a releativism of the powerless while the
ruling class and the governing elite go about their business without even
promising capitalist 'progress' in terms of fatter paychecks.

'Progress' is dead under capitalism. In this sense, I think that
postmodernists have proven to be better at reading the rhetoric and
structure of feelings of the fin-de-siecle capitalism than most
non-pomo/anti-pomo leftists are.

Yoshie






[PEN-L:6414] German documents reveal no genocide prior to bombing (fwd)

1999-05-04 Thread Michael Hoover

forwarded by Michael Hoover

 [www.IraqWar.org]
 Americans Against World Empire
 
 www.IRAQWAR.org
 
 Very important documents. German govt. reports state that no extensive
 persecution of Albanians in Kosovo was taking place prior to the Nato
 bombing. ( The German govt. nonetheless supported the bombing decision. )
 This revelation completely undercuts the pro-war argument that Nato bombing
 was intended to prevent "genocide." It is not that the "genocide" or "ethnic
 cleansing" accelerated after the bombing; it simply did not exist prior to
 the bombing--it began with the bombing. The documents point out that the
 Serbian forces were fighting the KLA, not Albanians in general.
 
 http://www.zmag.org/ZNETTOPnoanimation.html
 
 IMPORTANT INTERNAL DOCUMENTS
 =46ROM GERMANY'S FOREIGN OFFICE
 REGARDING PRE-BOMBARDMENT
 GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO
 
 As in the case of the Clinton Administration, the present regime in
 Germany, specifically Joschka Fischer's Foreign Office, has justified its
 intervention in Kosovo by pointing to a "humanitarian catastrophe,"
 "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" occurring there, especially in the
 months immediately preceding the NATO attack. The following internal
 documents from Fischer's ministry and from various regional
 Administrative Courts in Germany spanning the year before the start of
 NATO's air attacks, attest that criteria of ethnic cleansing and genocide
 were not met. The Foreign Office documents were responses to the
 courts' needs in deciding the status of Kosovo-Albanian refugees in
 Germany. Although one might in these cases suppose a bias in favor of
 downplaying a humanitarian catastrophe in order to limit refugees, it
 nevertheless remains highly significant that the Foreign Office, in contrast
 to its public assertion of ethnic cleansing and genocide in justifying
 NATO intervention, privately continued to deny their existence as
 Yugoslav policy in this crucial period. And this continued to be their
 assessment even in March of this year. Thus these documents tend to
 show that stopping genocide was not the reason the German government,
 and by implication NATO, intervened in Kosovo, and that genocide (as
 understood in German and international law) in Kosovo did not precede
 NATO bombardment, at least not from early 1998 through March, 1999,
 but is a product of it.
 
 Excerpts from the these official documents were obtained by IALANA
 (International Association of Lawyers Against Nuclear Arms) which sent
 them to various media. The texts used here were published in the German
 daily junge welt on April 24, 1999. (See
 http://www.jungewelt.de/1999/04-24/011.shtml as well as the commentary
 at http://www.jungewelt.de/1999/04-24/001.shtml). According to my
 sources, this is as complete a reproduction of the documents as exists in
 the German media at the time of this writing. What follows is my
 translation of these published excerpts.
 
 Eric Canepa Brecht Forum, New York April 28, 1999
 
 I: Intelligence report from the Foreign Office January 6, 1999 to the
 Bavarian Administrative Court, Ansbach:
 
 "At this time, an increasing tendency is observable inside the
 =46ederal Republic of Yugoslavia of refugees returning to their
 dwellings. ... Regardless of the desolate economic situation in
 the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (according to official
 information of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia 700,000
 refugees from Croatia, Bosnia and Herzogovina have found
 lodging since 1991), no cases of chronic malnutrition or
 insufficient medical treatment among the refugees are known
 and significant homelessness has not been observed. ...
 According to the Foreign Office's assessment, individual
 Kosovo-Albanians (and their immediate families) still have
 limited possibilities of settling in those parts of Yugoslavia in
 which their countrymen or friends already live and who are
 ready to take them in and support them."
 
 II. Intelligence report from the Foreign Office, January 12, 1999 to the
 Administrative Court of Trier (Az: 514-516.80/32 426):
 
 "Even in Kosovo an explicit political persecution linked to
 Albanian ethnicity is not verifiable. The East of Kosovo is still
 not involved in armed conflict. Public life in cities like Pristina,
 Urosevac, Gnjilan, etc. has, in the entire conflict period,
 continued on a relatively normal basis." The "actions of the
 security forces (were) not directed against the
 Kosovo-Albanians as an ethnically defined group, but against
 the military opponent and its actual or alleged supporters."
 
 III. Report of the Foreign Office March 15, 1999 (Az: 514-516,80/33841)
 to the Administrative Court, Mainz:
 
 "As laid out in the status report of November 18, 1998, the
 KLA has resumed its positions after the partial withdrawal of
 the (Serbian) security forces in October 1998, so it once
 again controls broad areas in the zone of conflict. Before the
 beginning of spring 1999 there were still clashes between the
 KLA and 

[PEN-L:6416] Positions vs. Individuals (was Re: Ciao, Baby)

1999-05-04 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

Barkley Rosser wrote:
  I accept that I mischaracterized Henry's
position vis a vis Max.  However, Henry certainly
characterized one position as being "evil" even
if he did not specifically list people who held it,
although Max came closer to it than anybody on
the list.  Not too surprising that he took offense.

Unless one separates a position from those who hold it, one can't argue
about anything that would arouse passion. If Henry (or anyone) wants to say
that a position X is evil, unjust, immoral, or whatever, I hope he'll
continue to say it, without tempering his words.

Barkley Rosser also wrote:
We may sneer at all the
self-styled progressives who are supporting the bombing.
But it is a serious position and they are not all doing it
to kiss somebody's derrriere or to win favors or positions
in the US Congress, or whatever.

It may be a 'serious' position in the sense that it is sincerely held
without self-interested motives. However, it isn't a serious position in
that it is negated by facts (e.g. NATO has bombed those whom they claim to
protect as well), among other reasons. One can only hold this position
seriously as long as one pays no attention to the effects of bombings.

Yoshie






[PEN-L:6418] GDP before and after communism in selected Balkan countries

1999-05-04 Thread Ken Hanly

The source for this material is the European Bank for
Reconstruction and Development--via a BBC news analysis.
  GDP in 3 selected years as percentage of GDP at the fall of
communism (1989=100)

Country1997
19981999 (est.)

ALBANIA80
8690
BULGARIA  63
6566
CROATIA76
7879
MACEDONIA   56
5860
ROMANIA82
7674
BOSNIA30
3436
YUGOSLAVIA54
5048

I don't know if the estimates for 99 were made before or after
the bombing.

Now we know why the Rambouillet peace agreement has the bit about
the free market economy. With these figures the population might
not want one, and they don't even tell about level of social
services or the distribution of income and wealth.


Cheers, Ken Hanly






[PEN-L:6419] Re: GDP before and after communism in selected Balkan countries

1999-05-04 Thread Ken Hanly

Sorry about the columns. The system reacted strangely to the data. I
wrote it out in
three neat columns from 97 to 99 using the tab key. The data is still
under the correct columns.
  Cheers K. Hanly

Ken Hanly wrote:

 The source for this material is the European Bank for
 Reconstruction and Development--via a BBC news analysis.
   GDP in 3 selected years as percentage of GDP at the fall of
 communism (1989=100)

 Country1997
 19981999 (est.)

 ALBANIA80
 8690
 BULGARIA  63
 6566
 CROATIA76
 7879
 MACEDONIA   56
 5860
 ROMANIA82
 7674
 BOSNIA30
 3436
 YUGOSLAVIA54
 5048

 I don't know if the estimates for 99 were made before or after
 the bombing.

 Now we know why the Rambouillet peace agreement has the bit about
 the free market economy. With these figures the population might
 not want one, and they don't even tell about level of social
 services or the distribution of income and wealth.

 Cheers, Ken Hanly







[PEN-L:6420] Sanders v. progressives on NATO bombing; Crisis in Yugoslavia It's Relation to Global Fascism (long)

1999-05-04 Thread Michael Eisenscher

IN THIS MESSAGE:   Sanders v. progressives on NATO bombing; Crisis in
Yugoslavia  It's Relation to Global Fascism (long)

People interested in the response of Bernie Sanders political constituency
(at a Sanders Town Meeting) to his pro-war stance on the U.S./NATO bombing
of Yugoslavia might want to check out the Vermont Labor Party's web page -
complete with pictures at:
http://mishima.goddard.edu/~vlp/
The page is updated daily.

Fraternally,

Hal Leyshon
member of affiliated Teamsters Local#597
and VTLP executive committee member
see the Vermont Labor Party web page at: http://mishima.goddard.edu/~vlp/
===

Bernie's "Town Meeting" on 
   NATO/US War in Yugoslavia
   May 3, 1999

  Jozef Hand-Boniakowski


   Upwards of 500 people attended a forum at the Pavilion Auditorium in
Montpelier with Vermont
   Congressman Bernie Sanders and a panel consisting of four individuals
representing various
   perspectives on the war in Yugoslavia.  The event was not a town meeting
as advertised with panel
   members limited to 10 minutes and floor speakers to 2.  Speakers
included Dawn Calabia, U.N.
   High Commisioner on Refugees who spoke on Western Leaders ignoring the
pattern of "internal
   displacement" for a year.  Shirley Geden, a University of Vermont
economics professor spoke on
   the International Monetray Fund's (IMF) contribution to the economic
instability in Yugoslavia during
   the 1980's which contributed to the crisis.   The assistant Pastor from
the Unitarian Universalist
   Church of Burlington spoke on Women in Black and the  non-violent
possibility for resolving the
   conflict and going beyond militarism.   A professor from CUNY spoke
supporting the NATO bombing
   and urging the use of ground troops.  

   With very few exceptions the more than two dozen individuals who spoke
from the floor disagreed
   with Bernie's position on the daily massive bombing taking place in the
Balkans.  The general theme
   repeated throughout the evening was that violence in the name of
stopping violence is a mistake
   and that militarism by the world's remaining (sometimes called "rogue")
superpower under the
   guise of humanitarian concerns is a cover for further corporate global
expansion.  Some speakers
   suggested a greater master plan of the planet's largest purveyor of arms
for profit.  Others
   questioned the sanity of the patriarchical might-makes-right philosophy
of the United States.  A
   speaker questioned Bernie about the eventual return of the refugees to
their homeland in Kosovo, a
   place becoming uninhabitable through the use of radioactive depleted
uranium shelld.   Bernie's
   response was to avoid answering the question.  Others suggested that the
military-industrial-prison
   complex had much to gain from the war and from the continued use of
billions of dollars of
   soon-to-be-replaced sophisticated arms further pushing Wall Street
ticker tape results and profits
   upward.

   The forum clearly was a difficult night for Congressman Sanders with
many in attendance feeling let
   down by a politican whom they have become accustomed to trusting and
admiring, a "progressive "
   whom they believed like them is determined to change the
business-as-usual mentality of
   Congress.   Bernie's quick arrest of demonstrators at his office draws
ironic attention to an
   intolerance for dissent, something which less than a few decades ago he
was willing to participate
   in.  Two students recently arrested in Bernie's office sat in the front
row of the auditorium wearing
   handcuffs as a sign of that intolerance.

   Bernie is to be commeded for his efforts in participating in a
congressional delegation reaching an
   agreement with members of the Russian Duma trying to find a political
solution to the war.  That
   being said, some speakers questioned Bernie's late participation in the
delegation and only after the
   fallout in Vermont began quickly reaching his office.  Whether the forum
and its high energy on May
   4 made a difference only time can tell.  What is evident however, is how
Bernie's support for
   bombing in Sudan, Afhghanistan, Iraq and now Yugoslavia is eroding his
base of support in the
   progressive and social justice communities.


Youth Arrestees Statement

  Pavilion Auditorioum Crowd

  Dawn
Calabia

   Shirley Geden

  Text of Author's Statement Read at the Forum

   Good evening.  I would like to thank congressman Sanders for organizing
this forum.  This is my
   28th year teaching and my 14th at Burr and Burton 

[PEN-L:6421] IMF ready to offer financial help, structural reforms to theBalkans - Javier Solana

1999-05-04 Thread Michael Eisenscher

The National Post   Monday, May 03, 1999

NATO: UNITED TO SUCCEED

The International Monetary Fund and Group of Seven industrialized 
countries stand ready to offer financial help to the countries of the 
Balkans. This help should go hand in hand with necessary structural 
reforms.

By Javier Solana

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has changed too: The 
new NATO that emerged from the Washington Summit is ready for 
the next millennium. In all of this our core principles remain 
constant: In 1949, the founding members of NATO signed the North 
Atlantic Treaty to defend democracy, individual liberty, and the rule 
of law. These remain directly relevant to the world of today, but 
proclaiming them is not sufficient. The Kosovo crisis obliged us to 
take action to defend them. This challenge is every bit as great as 
those we faced 50 years ago. Our New Strategic Concept approved 
in Washington helps equip NATO for such new challenges. We have 
a moral responsibility to act to defend our values once the efforts of 
diplomacy have failed. And we are doing so with the determination 
that has become our characteristic since 1949. This has not changed. 
Our action in the Balkans is the latest chapter in a long history of 
standing up for these principles. Principles that will help ensure 
Europe enters the next millennium a peaceful and stable place.
The Washington summit endorsed our continuing action in 
Kosovo. It showed that the resolve of the international community is 
getting stronger; and it encouraged us to intensify this action with 
immediate effect. We will do so. And, more than ever, I am totally 
confident that we will succeed. We have three key strengths: unity of 
spirit; clarity of purpose, and the right strategy.
At the Washington summit, more than 40 countries stood 
shoulder to shoulder: not only the 19 Allies but also our partners, 
with whom deepening our co-operative relations is one of our top 
priorities. And the countries neighbouring Yugoslavia asked us to 
follow our efforts through to the end. They do not enjoy living next 
door to the Milosevic regime. We value their help to us -- both in 
the military and humanitarian effort. It is vital to the success of our 
operation. And NATO will respond to any challenges made to them 
by Yugoslavia.
Our aims remain clear. The Washington summit wholeheartedly 
confirmed NATO's continuing commitment to them. We welcome 
the continuing diplomatic efforts of the international community. I 
am in close contact with Kofi Annan. I also welcome the efforts of 
Viktor Chernomyrdin. Russia will be central to the lasting solution. 
But let us be clear -- the aims we set out on April 12 are not 
negotiable.
And our longer-term strategy remains the achievement of a 
lasting political settlement, based on the Rambouillet agreement. 
After that, I look forward to the day when we will be able to 
welcome a democratic Yugoslavia back into the European family, as 
part of a stable Balkan region.
Our strategy is working. Day by day we are gradually degrading 
Milosevic's war machine, cutting off his ability to sustain his forces 
in Kosovo. The air campaign has so far made a dramatic impact: The 
air-defences are weak; the air force no longer takes to the air -- 
many aircraft have been destroyed and fuel is in short supply -- as 
most of the storage capacity has been eliminated.
In Washington we had one simple message for Milosevic: 
NATO's resolve is unshakeable. You have the power to end the 
campaign. Meanwhile, the damage to your country's infrastructure, 
and every single casualty, is your responsibility.
But our military goals must not deter us from our humanitarian 
mission. Indeed we are committed to helping those who have 
suffered as a result of Milosevic's actions. More than 700,000 
refugees have fled Kosovo. Our troops will go on working in 
support of the United Nations High Commission for Refugees and 
other agencies in the camps. 12,000 troops are helping with the 
humanitarian effort in the former Yugoslav republic of Macedonia, 
5,000 in Albania. They have helped in the delivery of more than 
3,000 tons of food, 800 tons of medical supplies, and 1,500 tons of 
tents.
The Allies will work with the rest of the international community 
to help rebuild Kosovo once the crisis is over: The International 
Monetary Fund and Group of Seven industrialized countries are 
among those who stand ready to offer financial help to the countries 
of the region. We want to ensure proper co-ordination of aid and 
help countries to respond to the effects of the crisis. This should go 
hand in hand with the necessary structural reforms in the countries 
affected -- helped by budget support from the international 
community.
Our ultimate aim is to build lasting peace in the Balkans. Serbia 
is an integral part of 

[PEN-L:6417] NATO Workshop on Political-Military Decision Making (was AppendixB to Rambouillet...)

1999-05-04 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

Barkeley Rosser to Charles:
Also, now that it is going,
the US military-industrial complex is enjoying the higher
earnings and saying "go go go," although they were not
behind its initiation, I don't think,

At the XIIth NATO Workshop on Political-Military Decision Making in 1995,
Dr. Wolfgang Piller of Daimler-Benz Aerospace AG gave a talk entitled
"European Prerequisites for Transatlantic Cooperation." Piller said, among
other things:

*  n. Markets in Europe, like those in the U.S., are sinking rapidly;
government budgets for procurement have been sharply reduced. But the
fragmented national industries in Europe have and will become critical much
faster than their U.S. competitors, who can merge and concentrate on the
home market (which is still a large one) in their huge unified country.

To sum up, then, there is no alternative to thinking and acting together in
the framework of an industrial and political division of labor: what we
need is a unified, consolidated European market that includes the new
democracies of Central Europe
http://www.csdr.org/95Book/Piller.htm  *

I don't think that European arms manufacturers have achieved their
objectives in the Balkans, but certainly they have been behind the creation
of a "New NATO" whose primary raison d'etre is offensive military actions
(billed as 'humanitarian') _outside_ the NATO countries.

Yoshie






[PEN-L:6415] Re: Beneath Exploitation (was Appendix B toRambouillet....)

1999-05-04 Thread Jim Devine

At 05:05 PM 5/4/99 -0500, Yoshie wrote:
I think that this war is, in an important sense, an expression of the fact
that a huge part of the working class have become expelled from productive
labor under neoliberalism. ... There is no currently
legal  profitable way to incorporate, for instance, most if not all of the
Russian working class in the capitalist world economy. What do capitalists
do with the working class people they do not need to employ? Imprison them,
starve them, or kill them. ...

I don't get this. In the US, a lot of people have been kicked out of
productive labor by neoliberalism, but a lot have gotten new jobs, often in
productive industries. (BTW, from a capitalist class point of view, i.e.,
from the point of view that defines "productive labor" for Marx, service
labor is productive.) The rise in incarceration lowers the unemployment
rate, but even when you correct for this to allow comparisons over time,
the unemployment rate so far in 1999 looks pretty good except compared to
the late 1960s, at least in the US.

We also must remember that capitalism is an expansionary system.
Neoliberalism has lowered wages and boosted profits. The latter encourages
capitalist accumulation and increased demand for labor-power. So nowadays,
in the US you hear capitalists complaining about shortages of labor...

You'd think that the capitalists would want to increase the availability of
cheap labor in the Balkans (as with the Rambo accord's demand that free
markets prevail in Serbia) rather than killing off a bunch of workers.

Now it's true that capitalism is irrational, i.e., it won't always serve
capitalist class interests, as when they _prevent_ cheap labor by killing a
bunch of people and destroying the economies in the Balkans. But your
description makes it sound like the capitalists want to get rid of surplus
population and are pushing war in order to attain these goals. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html
Bombing DESTROYS human rights. US/NATO out of Serbia!






[PEN-L:6413] Re: Hedge-Fund Meltdown

1999-05-04 Thread Henry C.K. Liu

Despite convoluted denial by Greenspan and the NY Federal Reserve Bank, moral
harzard has been increased with the Fed orchestrated bail-out of LTCM.
Incidentally, while the crisis of LTCM was caused by the sudden impact of the
Russian default on the normal paradigm of global interest rate parity, the
collapse of LTCM, if allowed to occur, would have been many folds the impact
of the Russian default.
The notional value of LTCM exposure was around US$2 trillion with risk
exposure of several hundred billions (no one knew how many).
In contrast, the Russian default involved less than US$4 billion.

The problem is with the spectacular and unregulated growth of privately traded
derivatives, the underlying asset of which (notional value) rose from
negligible in 1988 to US$37 trillion in 1998, almost 5 times the GDP of the
U.S., by unbundling risks in globalized markets for buyers who will pay the
highest price for specific protection.

At year-end 1998, U.S. commercial banks, the leading players in global
derivatives markets, reported outstanding derivatives contracts with a
notional value of $33 trillion, a measure that has been growing at a compound
annual rate of around 20 percent since 1990. Of the $33 trillion outstanding
at year-end, only $4 trillion were exchange-traded derivatives; the remainder
were off-exchange or over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives. An OTC instrument is
traded not on organized exchanges (like futures contracts), but by dealers
(typically banks) trading directly with one another or with their
counterparties (hedge funds) using electronic means.

The $2.5 trillion-a-day repurchase agreement, or repo market, is the
place where bond firms and investors drum up cash to buy securities, and where
corporations and money market funds park billions of dollars daily to lock in
attractive returns.  It is also the main source for funds by commercial banks
for financing derviative trading.
I posted an apologetically long post on the subject: The Repo Market Time
Bomb, on this list on April 8, 1999.

The counter-party credit risk of the global structured finance market is
unbelievably fragile and explosive.

Henry C.K. Liu

Seth Sandronsky wrote:

 Friends,

 I read the article below with much concern.  A second Russian debt default
 could make the meltdown of the Long-Term Capital Management "hedge fund"
 look like a walk in the park, no?

 Seth Sandronsky

 Monday  May 3  1999

  HK issues US with hedge-fund warning

  BARRY PORTER in Manila
  Hong Kong Monetary Authority chief executive
  Joseph Yam Chi-kwong has told the United
  States not to put the interests of American
  hedge funds and other highly leveraged
  institutions ahead of small open markets such
  as Hong Kong.

  He warned the US and other economic
  powerhouses against stalling proposed reforms
  to the world's financial architecture in the wake
  of the economic crisis.

  Mr Yam told a gathering of leading
  international bankers that the many working
  groups set up to review possible global financial
  sector changes were taking "too long".

  "There is always the risk that, when the dust
  has settled, the initiative and enthusiasm, dare I
  say, on the part of those less affected by the
  crisis, may be stifled," Mr Yam said in an
  address to the Institute of International Finance
  in Manila.

  "There is also the risk that the plight of those
  who have been seriously affected by the crisis
  is not given the attention it deserves, simply
  because they do not have an adequately
  representative voice on the issues at hand at
  these international forums."

  Mr Yam said there had been no lack of ideas,
  but these needed to be translated into action
  sooner rather than later.

  He said it was clear highly leveraged institutions
  acted in a calculated, secretive and potentially
  highly destablising way and safeguards were
  needed.

  Mr Yam made three suggestions.

  He called for greater transparency of markets,
  particularly over-the-counter (OTC) markets,
  which, he said, were very opaque and were
  where highly leveraged institutions conducted
  most of their activities.

  "Unlike ordinary exchanges, OTC markets are
  subject to little, if any, transparency or
  regulatory requirements, raising the risk of
  price-ramping, collusion of misconduct," said
  Mr Yam, calling for a better disclosure
  framework.

  He said he supported a German 

[PEN-L:6407] Re: Re: Re: FWD: Appendix B to RambouilletAccordproposal; Kosovo's

1999-05-04 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

Charles,
 Never said any such thing, only that it is complicated.
And I did not reject all of those things you listed, certainly
not that one about muddling through not knowing what
they are doing.  Some obvious ones that have been listed
and not rejected include periphery pacification for Euro-
capital and general assertion of global authority by the US
for its capital to operate (globally).
 Also, now that it is going,
the US military-industrial complex is enjoying the higher
earnings and saying "go go go," although they were not
behind its initiation, I don't think, but are certainly a much
bigger material interest than might-be-miners in Kosmet
or Danube river shippers in Germany.  Certainly the spectacle
of Repug reps in the US House voting against "supporting
Clinton's war" but voting FOR the funding of it plus some has
been most edifying.
 Also, I would not minimize the more
global concern of pleasing the Turko-Central Asian oil
belt for US oil companies.  These look all pretty substantive,
although I also think that at least some of these leaders have
convinced themselves that they really are doing for
humanitarian reasons, absurd as that may be.
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 2:04 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6403] Re: Re: FWD: Appendix B to RambouilletAccordproposal;
Kosovo's


Ok lets eliminate that one. I would like to add to the list of eliminated
explanations: humanitarian rescue, anti-fascism , muddling through not
knowing what they are doing. having no economic master plan and no material
motives whatsoever, free floating machoism,

What is the DEFINITE combination of causes for the war ? Could the mines be
part of a COMBINATION of material motives ? Does such a combination  include
seeking to exploit  the labor of Yugoslavians as by the Rambouillet Appendix
B provision requiring a "free" market in Kosovo ? making  Yugoslavia an
example to others to forestall the unravelling of neo-colonialism in the
former socialist countries and other countries similar to Yugoslavia in its
relationship to the U.S., Germany, Britain, France and other neo-imperialist
countries ?

Are you saying that this war has no material cause or combination of
material causes whatsoever ? No main material cause or main combination of
causes ? That its main cause is not material ?  That it is random ?


Charles Brown




 "J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 12:50PM 
  We've already heard about the mines of Kosmet
as an alleged material cause.  It just does not fly.
Is mining all that profitable these days?  Why should
European or US capitalists give a hoot and not just
buy the stuff, given that prices have not been all that
high lately?  I'm sorry, but I don't believe mining interests
were whispering in Madeleine Albright's ear on January
17 when she convinced the national security group to
recommend bombing Yugoslavia if there was no
signature at Rambouillet.
 (That European and US capital would like to see
free market capitalism extended to Yugoslavia is quite
another kettle of fish.)
  As for lignite, what a joke!  The stuff is highly
polluting and not particularly desired by anybody
anymore, although it might be acceptable in poorer
and more polluted countries like  (Larry Summers
would approve  ).
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 12:32 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6398] Re: FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accordproposal;
Kosovo's


Sounds like part of a potential vulgar materialist motive for war.

Charles Brown

 "Michael Hoover" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 11:42AM 
 IN THIS MESSAGE:   Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's
 Glittering Prize
  Chapter 4a, Article I -- "The economy of Kosovo, shall function in
  accordance with free market principles."
 It is crystal clear whose interests are being advanced here: Kosovo has
 substantial mineral resources, including the richest mines for lead,
 molybdenum, mercury and other metals in all of Europe. Obviously one
cannot
 leave the control over such resources to an independent Yugoslavia.

Kosovo also has the largest lignite field in Europe...Michael Hoover










[PEN-L:6405] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby

1999-05-04 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

  I accept that I mischaracterized Henry's
position vis a vis Max.  However, Henry certainly
characterized one position as being "evil" even
if he did not specifically list people who held it,
although Max came closer to it than anybody on
the list.  Not too surprising that he took offense.
  As for the names issue, I agree that no one
should alter somebody else's name for public usage
without their genuine consent.  Certainly changing
someone's name because one does not know how
to pronounce it (if it is foreign or unfamiliar) is racist
or at least chauvinist.  Also, applying a name that
implies some negative stereotype is clearly racist.
I am not sure that what Max did fit either of those;
maybe it did.  I am not going to defend what he did, and
certainly the second round was highly inappropriate.
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Henry C.K. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 1:19 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6402] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby


I really do not wish to spend more energy on this, but Barkley's claim that
I called Max evil is not support by fact.
I wrote before Max's "joke":
"I never once attacked Max personally for taking a position I disagree
with,
much less accused him of being evil.
Read my post.  Max was not mentioned.
I stand behind every word in my post."

Cultural and language imperialism is a serious issue, but more for non
Westerners.  Recently, I participated in a diversity training seminar in a
major New York law firm whose members pride themsleves as ultra liberals
who
fight for social justice.  The question was raised whether it is alright to
modify non-Western names of associates as a convenience, such as calling
someone with a difficult name Jack or Charlie.  The head of the corporate
department responded by saying it was ok if no harm was meant by it.  The
younger memebers thought it was an absoletely incorrect posture.  To
non-English speakers, Smith is a very difficult name to pronounce.
Racism has to be opposed at its bud.  It was not just Max's repeated
taunting, but when I protested, others on the list suggested that I was
hyper-sensitive. That was the last straw. There is no basis to participate
in fighting for social justice while showing a total insentivity to its
universal meaning.

These are my last words on this subject.  As I said, innocent people are
still getting killed or made to starve to death.

Henry

"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:

   I am one of the many on this list who has
 yet to figure out what on earth was racist about
 Max's original play on Henry's name.  However,
 once it was clear that Henry objected for whatever
 reasons to having his name fooled around with,
 it was inappropriate for Max to do it some more.
   Max has withdrawn I believe partly out of
 exhaustion.  After all, with Nathan laying low, Max
 has been the sole defender of the war in Yugoslavia
 on this list, or at least the sole open such defender.
 I think it got to him and I think he resented being
 called "evil" by Henry.  I have encouraged him off
 list to return after a suitable cooling off period.  I
 don't know if he will or not.
   I remain opposed to the bombing.  But I would
 remind people on this list that it is unwise to be too
 self-righteous about all this.  We may sneer at all the
 self-styled progressives who are supporting the bombing.
 But it is a serious position and they are not all doing it
 to kiss somebody's derrriere or to win favors or positions
 in the US Congress, or whatever.  There are a lot of people
 who see the trains and the refugees and think, "Holocaust."
 That this is not an appropriate analogy is for us to convince
 them of, not to presume that such an analogy is automatically
 idiotic or immoral.
 Barkley Rosser
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:40 PM
 Subject: [PEN-L:6370] Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby

 Max made a joke about Henry's name which Henry interpreted as a
 racist response and protested.  In response, Max came back with
 an even more obnoxious joke using Henry's name that I for one
 found obnoxious and, in the context of making fun of ones name
 after having been asked not to do so, I found intolerable on what is
 supposed to be a 'socialist' list.  Henry interpreted it as racist and
 having made that point, when Max compounded the offense, I could
 only conclude that Max was insensitive to the racial offense he was
 giving.  Thus, I hope that Max would withdraw until he calms down
 and becomes a little more sensitive to others on the list.  And I
 don't mean on the Kosovo situation as I tried to indicate, perhaps
 not very clearly.  But since he is not on the list, I will not try to
 debate his position now.

 Paul Phillips,
 Economics,
 University of Manitoba

  I'm all for flogging Max for his horrible position on Kosovo, but what
  did he write 

[PEN-L:6402] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby

1999-05-04 Thread Henry C.K. Liu

I really do not wish to spend more energy on this, but Barkley's claim that
I called Max evil is not support by fact.
I wrote before Max's "joke":
"I never once attacked Max personally for taking a position I disagree with,
much less accused him of being evil.
Read my post.  Max was not mentioned.
I stand behind every word in my post."

Cultural and language imperialism is a serious issue, but more for non
Westerners.  Recently, I participated in a diversity training seminar in a
major New York law firm whose members pride themsleves as ultra liberals who
fight for social justice.  The question was raised whether it is alright to
modify non-Western names of associates as a convenience, such as calling
someone with a difficult name Jack or Charlie.  The head of the corporate
department responded by saying it was ok if no harm was meant by it.  The
younger memebers thought it was an absoletely incorrect posture.  To
non-English speakers, Smith is a very difficult name to pronounce.
Racism has to be opposed at its bud.  It was not just Max's repeated
taunting, but when I protested, others on the list suggested that I was
hyper-sensitive. That was the last straw. There is no basis to participate
in fighting for social justice while showing a total insentivity to its
universal meaning.

These are my last words on this subject.  As I said, innocent people are
still getting killed or made to starve to death.

Henry

"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:

   I am one of the many on this list who has
 yet to figure out what on earth was racist about
 Max's original play on Henry's name.  However,
 once it was clear that Henry objected for whatever
 reasons to having his name fooled around with,
 it was inappropriate for Max to do it some more.
   Max has withdrawn I believe partly out of
 exhaustion.  After all, with Nathan laying low, Max
 has been the sole defender of the war in Yugoslavia
 on this list, or at least the sole open such defender.
 I think it got to him and I think he resented being
 called "evil" by Henry.  I have encouraged him off
 list to return after a suitable cooling off period.  I
 don't know if he will or not.
   I remain opposed to the bombing.  But I would
 remind people on this list that it is unwise to be too
 self-righteous about all this.  We may sneer at all the
 self-styled progressives who are supporting the bombing.
 But it is a serious position and they are not all doing it
 to kiss somebody's derrriere or to win favors or positions
 in the US Congress, or whatever.  There are a lot of people
 who see the trains and the refugees and think, "Holocaust."
 That this is not an appropriate analogy is for us to convince
 them of, not to presume that such an analogy is automatically
 idiotic or immoral.
 Barkley Rosser
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:40 PM
 Subject: [PEN-L:6370] Re: Re: Re: Ciao, Baby

 Max made a joke about Henry's name which Henry interpreted as a
 racist response and protested.  In response, Max came back with
 an even more obnoxious joke using Henry's name that I for one
 found obnoxious and, in the context of making fun of ones name
 after having been asked not to do so, I found intolerable on what is
 supposed to be a 'socialist' list.  Henry interpreted it as racist and
 having made that point, when Max compounded the offense, I could
 only conclude that Max was insensitive to the racial offense he was
 giving.  Thus, I hope that Max would withdraw until he calms down
 and becomes a little more sensitive to others on the list.  And I
 don't mean on the Kosovo situation as I tried to indicate, perhaps
 not very clearly.  But since he is not on the list, I will not try to
 debate his position now.

 Paul Phillips,
 Economics,
 University of Manitoba

  I'm all for flogging Max for his horrible position on Kosovo, but what
  did he write that was of a "racist tone"?
 
 
  Bill
 






[PEN-L:6396] Re: Hedge-Fund Meltdown

1999-05-04 Thread Charles Brown


But wouldn't that be good from the standpoint of making radical change of the 
capitalist system more likely ? How do you make an omelette without breaking eggs. ?


Charles Brown

 "Seth Sandronsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/99 11:17AM 
Friends,

I read the article below with much concern.  A second Russian debt default 
could make the meltdown of the Long-Term Capital Management "hedge fund" 
look like a walk in the park, no?



Monday  May 3  1999

 HK issues US with hedge-fund warning

 BARRY PORTER in Manila
 Hong Kong Monetary Authority chief executive
 Joseph Yam Chi-kwong has told the United
 States not to put the interests of American
 hedge funds and other highly leveraged
 institutions ahead of small open markets such
 as Hong Kong.






[PEN-L:6395] Re: Re: Why Nato needs to destroy Serbia

1999-05-04 Thread Charles Brown

For one thing, the bourgeoisie do not do the dying in their wars.  Just the 
internecine, working class mass murder is an enormous plus for interests of the 
bourgeoisie as far as any war is concerned.



Charles Brown


 Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/99 05:01PM 
Charles to Wojtek:
Again I do not think that there is an overall master plan or capitalist
conspiracy to take over CEE.  I view it as a rather incoherent process of
muddling through, with no master plan, no coherent strategy, conflicting
interests, great uncertainty, and even greater short-term opportunism.

Yea, the bourgeoisie are crazy like a fox. Amazing how they keep coming
up winners. Would you describe WWI, WWII and most capitalist war this way
or is this war different , some new phenomenon ? How about capitalist
economics ? Hasn't capitalist war always been significantly anarchistic
like capitalist production ? Charles Brown

I take it that Wojtek is an empiricist, not a Hegelian.

Yoshie






[PEN-L:6392] Re: Re: questions on modest proposals

1999-05-04 Thread Mathew Forstater

also:

Prowse, Michael, 1992: "Save Planet Earth--From Economists, _Financial Times_,
February 10.






[PEN-L:6386] FWD: Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo'sGlittering Prize

1999-05-04 Thread Michael Eisenscher

IN THIS MESSAGE:   Appendix B to Rambouillet Accord proposal; Kosovo's
Glittering Prize

Date:  Tue, 4 May 1999 11:55:56 +0900
From: Hendrik
Subject:  [NS] Interpreting the Rambouillet Accord proposal


Here are some excerpts from the Rambouillet accord proposal interspersed
with some comments. (Acknowledgements to Richard Becker of the
International Action Center, NY)

We have heard much justification why NATO had no choice but to attack
Yugoslavia because the Yugoslav government refused to negotiate over the
issue of Kosovo. However, the Yugoslav government had indicated its
willingness to accept the autonomy part of the Rambouillet proposal - what
it rejected was the implied abdication of its national sovereignty and
independence.

The proposed status of autonomy for Kosovo would have meant that Kosovo
would have received its own government, supreme court and security forces.
The Kosovo government would have been able to negate laws passed by the
federal legislature and to conduct its own foreign policy - both rights
that neither the US states nor the states of Germany possess.

Let us look at some excerpts of the accord proposal:

 Chapter 4a, Article I -- "The economy of Kosovo, shall function in
 accordance with free market principles."

It is crystal clear whose interests are being advanced here: Kosovo has
substantial mineral resources, including the richest mines for lead,
molybdenum, mercury and other metals in all of Europe. Obviously one cannot
leave the control over such resources to an independent Yugoslavia.

 Chapter 5, Article V -- "The CIM [*] shall be the final authority in
 theater regarding interpretation of the civilian aspects of this
 Agreement, and the Parties agree to abide by his determinations as
 binding on all Parties and persons."

 *Chief of the Implementation Mission

 Chapter 7, Article XV -- "The KFOR [NATO] commander is the final
 authority in theater regarding interpretation of this Chapter and
 his determinations are binding on all Parties and persons."

In other words, two foreign commanders would have had the power to overturn
elections, shut down organizations and media, and overrule any decisions
made by a provincial or the federal governments regarding Kosovo. These are
terms of occupation, not those of an agreement acceptable to a soveriegn
state.

Following is the complete text of Appendix B to the Rambouillet Accord
proposal. The "meat" part begins with section 6. You may want to consider
in particular the implications of sections 6a and 6b, as well as sections 7
to 11 and section 15. I am sure you will recognise that this accord
proposal proves US and NATO diplomacy to be a means to conduct war, not a
means to prevent war.

Hendrik


Appendix B: Status of Multi-National Military Implementation Force

1. For the purposes of this Appendix, the following expressions shall have
the meanings hereunder assigned to them:

a. "NATO" means the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), its
subsidiary bodies, its military Headquarters, the NATO-led KFOR, and any
elements/units forming any part of KFOR or supporting KFOR, whether or not
they are from a NATO member country and whether or not they are under NATO
or national command and control, when acting in furtherance of this
Agreement.

b. "Authorities in the FRY" means appropriate authorities, whether Federal,
Republic, Kosovo or other.

c. "NATO personnel" means the military, civilian, and contractor personnel
assigned or attached to or employed by NATO, including the military,
civilian, and contractor personnel from non-NATO states participating in
the Operation, with the exception of personnel locally hired.

d. "the Operation" means the support, implementation, preparation, and
participation by NATO and NATO personnel in furtherance of this Chapter.

e. "Military Headquarters" means any entity, whatever its denomination,
consisting of or constituted in part by NATO military personnel established
in order to fulfill the Operation.

f. "Authorities" means the appropriate responsible individual, agency, or
organization of the Parties.

g. "Contractor personnel" means the technical experts or functional
specialists whose services are required by NATO and who are in the
territory of the FRY exclusively to serve NATO either in an advisory
capacity in technical matters, or for the setting up, operation, or
maintenance of equipment, unless they are:
(1) nationals of the FRY; or
(2) persons ordinarily resident in the FRY.

h. "Official use" means any use of goods purchased, or of the services
received and intended for the performance of any function as required by
the operation of the Headquarters.

i. "Facilities" means all buildings, structures, premises, and land
required for conducting the operational, training, and administrative
activities by NATO for the Operation as well as for accommodation-of NATO
personnel.

2. Without prejudice to their privileges and immunities under this
Appendix, all NATO personnel shall 

[PEN-L:6384] Imperialist strategyforreconstructingtheBalkans

1999-05-04 Thread Charles Brown

late response

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/29/99 04:45PM 
Charles: 

I can't tell if you are opposing the Marxist idea that capitalist wars are
integral to the capitalist system; or whether you are saying that this war
is an exception. 

neither. I was opposing crude economic determinism and teleology (i.e.,
something like profiteering from a Marshall-type plan occurs _because_ it
was planned ahead of time by NATO). 

((

Chas.: I'd say mystified, inability to find ruthless economic motives in capitalists 
is much more of a problem than seeing economic determinism and teleology, crude or 
otherwise. The bourgeoisie should not be seen as lacking vulgar and vicious motives 
and plans. To declare that they would not crudely plan ahead of time to profiteer from 
this war and others is very misleading. The capitalists promote, demand and require a 
gigantic , standing military. They don't have to specifically plan to profiteer from 
the recovery financing of a given war. It just naturally follows. Thus, they require 
their governments to be militarist in general and to wage war as an ongoing 
institution. 

It is quite naive to dismiss the idea that sectors of the bourgeoisie would not plan 
to make money off of NATO's attack in every which way ahead of time, including the 
post-war Marshall Plan type plan in Yugoslavia. They may let Clinton pick the 
particular time and place, but what they demand is a standing institution of war with 
all the attendant money making opportunities.
Otherwise you portray the bourgeoisie as lucky innocent bystanders who reap a windfall.

From a theoretical standpoint "economic determinism and teleology" is not an error at 
this level of analysis. Those are criticisms of a more general level of analysis. A 
specific event can economically determined and teleological, in the sense that it is 
directed to a specific goal. 

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(((


All wars are different. All have some similar bases in capitalism, i.e., in
trying to cope with class antagonisms by external means and as a result of
competition amongst capitals. But there are also a lot of other things that
change over time -- such as the nature of the hegemonic power, opposition
from non-capitalist systems (like the USSR) -- so that each war is different. 

((

Chas: Yes, all wars are different, but each is not an entirely unique event. Science 
is an effort to find general patterns that are common to a group of phenomena. The 
common feature of capitalist wars is that are motivated by profiteering in many ways. 
This war is not an exception to that general pattern. Like all capitalist wars, it has 
vulgar economic motives underlying the welter of other surface dimensions. 


I don't think the Marxist idea is that all the specific consequences of ,
say, WWI were intended and planned out in detail. The idea is that after it
is over, they will work out the details of how to profit off of the
destruction.

then we agree.

gotta go...


(((

Peace

CB






[PEN-L:6382] Re: questions on modest proposals

1999-05-04 Thread Doug Henwood

Thomas Kruse wrote:

Lawrence Summers wrote, as you all know, a little memo on the logic of
dumping toxics on poor people.  Does anyone have the original citation, or
report on the memo (I believe a write-up apperaed in the Economist)?

and The Nation.

See also excerpts from the memo tacked onto the end of this post.

A New Yorker profile of Summers published sometime last year said the memo
was actually written by Lant Pritchett, but Summers took the heat for it,
since it appeared under his name.

Doug




Title:   Toxic banking. (World Bank's environmental and global
 policies) (Editorial)

Authors: Henwood, Doug
Citation:The Nation, March 2, 1992 v254 n8 p257(1)



Subjects:Hazardous waste sites_International aspects
 Developing countries_Finance
 World Bank_Economic policy

Reference #: A11881332



Abstract: The World Bank's chief economist Lawrence Summers believes in
  dumping toxic waste loads into the lowest wage countries. The
  bank is lending more money to economically deprived countries,
  but still retains an enviable surplus.



Full Text COPYRIGHT The Nation Company Inc. 1992

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the
lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that." The
publication of these words, from a leaked internal memo, cause a rush of
bad publicity for their author, World Bank chief economist Lawrence
Summers, who now claims he was being ironic and provocative. There were
calls for his resignation. But Summers was expressing honestly the logic
of his discipline and his employer.

Summers -- whose salary is 225 times the per-person income of the bank's
Third World clientele -- is a whiz-bang Harvard econocrat, a class that
believes religiously that money is the final measure of value. Happiness
is a growing G.D.P. Legal issues can be resolved as competing economic
claims, and ethical decisions can be translated into dollar terms, with
the cheaper alternative always preferable.

In his memo, which criticized a draft of the bank's World Development
Report, Summers was applying cost-benefit analysis, which measures the
value of a human life by the stream of wages remaining to it. Say it
will cost Global Megatoxics $1 million to install a state-of-the-art
scrubber in its chimney. If Global determines that not spending this sum
will shorten the lives of five people by ten years apiece, all that
would be lost would be the present value of these fifty years of wages.
At a wage of $1,000 a year, the cost of the five lives can be figured at
$41,000, thanks to the magic of compound interest; at $30,000 a year,
they're worth $1.2 million. As Summers said in his memo,
"health-impairing pollution should be done in the country with the
lowest cost, which will be the country with the lowest wages."

Since the costs of pollution -- always priced in dollars or their
equivalent -- rise with development, Summers argued, it makes sense
costwise to dump in Africa. If a pollutant is going to cause "prostrate"
[sic] cancer, a disease of old age, why not locate it in countries where
people aren't likely to live long enough to get it? He concluded this
section by saying that disagreement with this logic suggests the belief
that things like "intrinsic rights to certain goods, moral reasons,
social concerns, lack of adequate markets, etc. could be turned around
and used more or less effectively against every Bank proposal for
liberalization." Exactly; as they should be.

It makes no sense for Summers to resign; he expressed the bank's logic
perfectly. It's a bank, and acts like one. It may preside over a steady
erosion of Third World incomes relative to First World ones, but it
makes big money. Last year, after paying $7 billion in interest and fees
to its investors and bankers, it had a $1.2 billion surplus and a rate
of return that commercial banks would envy.

What's a public institution to do with that kind of surplus? The bank's
executive board spends a lot of time working that question over. In 1991
it decided to contribute $267 million to its soft-loan affiliate, which
lends to very poor countries at concessional rates, $29 million to the
Global Environment Trust Fund and stuff the remaining $904 million into
its hoard of "retained earnings"' which now stands at $11.9 billion.
According to Unicef, preventing vitamin-A-deficiency blindness would
cost $6 million. Preventing "the great majority" of childhood
malnutrition deaths would cost $2.5 billion. But adding to the World
Bank's surplus is a higher priority.

In recent years, the bank has moved away from project-oriented
lending-power plants and dams-and toward structural adjustment lending,
in which credit is