This is a response from David Hanly my son who is an economist for the
Saskatchewan Government who works for the Sask. government on the Kyoto
agreement's implications and energy issues.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Hi,
I am on holidays this week so I can't access some of the references I have
at work on carbon trading.
I went as a Saskatchewan government observer to a climate change session in
Saskatoon about three years ago organized by the World Council of Churches
(WCC). They had some good presentations. I seem to re-call presentations
by i) Herman Ott and Wolfgang Sachs from Wuppertal Institute, ii) Jaap VAN
DER SAR, Kerk en Wereld, Driebergen, Netherlands and David RENKEMA Oikos,
Utrecht, Netherlands and iii) Anju SHARMA, Centre for Science
Environment, New Delhi, India as being very interesting. Here is one of the
WCC websites related to climate change: http://www.ecen.org/climecon.htm.
Doing an internet search will generate quite a few other sites connected
with the WCC
The WCC produced out of the Saskatoon conference a publication: - The Earth'
s Atmosphere: Responsible Caring and Equitable Sharing for a Global Commons,
Saskatoon, Canada 2000. http://www.web.net/~tendays/wcc.htm
See http://www.web.net/~tccr/Ecology/climate-wcc.htm#Reference (for the
agenda of the Saskatoon WCC session)
A commercial technical site on greenhouse emission permit trading is
http://www.pointcarbon.com/
they offer a paid subscription service but also a fair amount of free
material. It sounds as if Peter Bond knows more about critical discussions
of carbon trading than I am aware of. There is a huge volume of material
out there. One could spent a whole year downloading material from the
internet and still miss a lot.
A couple of Canadian sites about carbon credit and permit trading projects
are http://www.gemco.org/. and http://gert.org/, a government site where
they ran a pilot project program for carbon trading.
The World Bank has a whole section on Clean Development Mechanisms (creating
emission permits in developing countries).
http://www.worldbank.org/research/projects/global.htm
Despite the earlier hype about how much Clean Development Mechanisms (CDM)
under the Kyoto Protocol could contribute to industrialized countries
meeting their Kyoto obligations, I have read a number of statements in the
past few years that suggest CDM might not be a significant source of
emission reduction credits to meet the Kyoto Protocol. The large supply of
Russian and Eastern European hot air (allocations in excess of actual
expected emissions) is expected to lead to low carbon prices and make most
CDM uneconomic because of the substantial regulatory and administrative
costs of creating CDM credits. As an area to watch, it will be interesting
to see how China participates in CDM. It likely has a large potential but
the Chinese government will need to decide how it wants China to be
involved.
Cheers,
David
- Original Message -
From: k hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:50 AM
Subject: Fw: Emissions trading
Do you have anything to say on this I could forward to Pen-L. Bond is a
South African activist and political scientist I believe..
, Dad
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Emissions trading
It's terribly controversial, of course, with many good greens supporting
it
as a means to implement Kyoto. The worst aspects must be the Clean
Development Mechanism projects in places like Brazil, Thailand and here
in
South Africa. I spent a week in Oxford recently with comrades Rising
Tide,
Carbon Trade Watch and The Cornerhouse, who have a fantastic critical
analysis. Let me know if you want a couple of excellent new papers
off-list;
they get into the major market-failure and poli-econ issues, essentially
calling this phenomenon by the names it deserves: carbon imperialism and
the
privatisation of the air.
Cheers,
Patrick
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- Original Message -
From: Anders Schneiderman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: Emissions trading
Does anybody know where I can find empirical analysis by progressives of
emissions trading? This weekend, I got into an argument with a
conservative
about sustainable development. When I went to check a number of
progressive
enviro web sites, I was surprised to find that I was having trouble
finding
information on how this so-called free-market solution has been doing
in
the real world.
Thanks,
Anders Schneiderman
