Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
On Sep 6, 2008, at 00:00, Barbie wrote: The patch that David Wheeler has written for an RSS feed for no PASSes has already been included into the new report site. The launch of the site has been put on hold, while I sort out the new mailer. Further RSS may become available after the current round of fixes have been done. Oh, good, you found it. :-) Once again I can only apologise for not having enough time to have implemented all these things already, but I only took over the website and data generation code just before YAPC::NA and have been working on it almost non-stop since. Slacker! Seriously, many thanks for taking this stuff on, Barbie! Best, David
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until PAUSE starts doing that, how do you let new authors know about cpantesters? Also note that creation of an account may be separated from uploading a module by several years. IMHO it is easy to add a few lines about the resources to every message that goes out from PAUSE when you upload a module. You get those anyway. Some people might even look at it. Gabor
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 06:15:36PM -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Yes. Though I wouldn't be opposed to them (or any service) mailing new authors once with a welcome basket. Subject: Welcome from CPAN testers Hi. This mail is from the cpantesters. We are a group of helpful volunteers who automatically download and test modules from the CPAN. You are receiving this mail because we've just tested your first ever CPAN distribution, on $n platforms, [congratulations and so on, etc.] Results: 11 PASSes! To receive mail notifications or subscribe to RSS feeds, click ... You know, a hello that doesn't start with FAIL! That is exactly what I have designed, although if you don't mind I'll pinch your introductory paragraph, as it's better than mine ;) I'm working on the preferences site now, but it is unlikely to be live straight away, as it needs to integrate with PAUSE (secure logins) and potentially we may have new central server available to cpan-testers, which will mean porting the current sites and data to it. However, in the interim, the plan is to send new authors a welcome message, with links. With existing authors we will move to a collated mail, once a day, with details of how to stop getting them. This will currently consist of mailing me and asking to have your preferences set to NONE. The patch that David Wheeler has written for an RSS feed for no PASSes has already been included into the new report site. The launch of the site has been put on hold, while I sort out the new mailer. Further RSS may become available after the current round of fixes have been done. If you haven't seen my use.perl post [1], it details some of the thoughts of moving the reports site to a dynamic site. This will enable viewing preferences to be held in a cookie that can automatically display the default display that you wish to see. In addition this also means that an API used by search.cpan.org, can then use those same cookies to tailor the string you see against your distribution. Once again I can only apologise for not having enough time to have implemented all these things already, but I only took over the website and data generation code just before YAPC::NA and have been working on it almost non-stop since. [1] http://use.perl.org/~barbie/journal/37258 Cheers, Barbie. -- Birmingham Perl Mongers http://birmingham.pm.org Memoirs Of A Roadie http://barbie.missbarbell.co.uk
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
# from Andy Lester on Friday 05 September 2008 17:12: On Sep 5, 2008, at 7:07 PM, brian d foy wrote: CPAN Testers is what happens in a world of open source. Anyone gets to look at and comment on your code, whether you agree with them or not, and they don't need anyone's permission. That's a very helpful explanation you gave there. What they do need permission to do is send me the mass mail, and fortunately that's what's going to happen. Yes. Though I wouldn't be opposed to them (or any service) mailing new authors once with a welcome basket. Subject: Welcome from CPAN testers Hi. This mail is from the cpantesters. We are a group of helpful volunteers who automatically download and test modules from the CPAN. You are receiving this mail because we've just tested your first ever CPAN distribution, on $n platforms, [congratulations and so on, etc.] Results: 11 PASSes! To receive mail notifications or subscribe to RSS feeds, click ... You know, a hello that doesn't start with FAIL! And the same goes for any new CPAN-related service or big change or whatever. A nice message telling me about something I might like is probably ok to get ~12 random times per year (in the absence of a PAUSE newsletter or some other method of managing preferences globally.) And I would love to see all of that collected together in one single nice welcome basket from CPAN (hi, here is a list of helpful resources), but not if it means we have to argue about what goes in the basket. Of course, you can only be a new author once, so I'm just using my imagination. --Eric -- But you can never get 3n from n, ever, and if you think you can, please email me the stock ticker of your company so I can short it. --Joel Spolsky --- http://scratchcomputing.com ---
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
On Sep 5, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: You know, a hello that doesn't start with FAIL! Yes, beautiful. We need to remember that not everyone is a grizzled veteran. -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. This mail is from the cpantesters. We are a group of helpful volunteers who automatically download and test modules from the CPAN. You are receiving this mail because we've just tested your first ever CPAN distribution, on $n platforms, [congratulations and so on, etc.] Results: 11 PASSes! To receive mail notifications or subscribe to RSS feeds, click ... You know, a hello that doesn't start with FAIL! Unless the result is 11 FAILs. ;-) An author welcome with resources is probably best handled by PAUSE, not CPAN Testers. -- David
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:19 PM, David Golden wrote: You know, a hello that doesn't start with FAIL! Unless the result is 11 FAILs. ;-) An author welcome with resources is probably best handled by PAUSE, not CPAN Testers. Why not? A one-time Hi, we're watching your code, and if you'd like to follow our monitoring of your code, go here, and if you want messages all the time, you can do such-and-such. -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance
Re: s/FAIL/welcome basket/
# from David Golden # on Friday 05 September 2008 20:19: You know, a hello that doesn't start with FAIL! Unless the result is 11 FAILs. ;-) Still. The subject line says Welcome, not FAIL. An author welcome with resources is probably best handled by PAUSE, not CPAN Testers. Until PAUSE starts doing that, how do you let new authors know about cpantesters? Also note that creation of an account may be separated from uploading a module by several years. --Eric -- If the above message is encrypted and you have lost your pgp key, please send a self-addressed, stamped lead box to the address below. --- http://scratchcomputing.com ---
