Re: passing the baton onwards (was Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it))

2008-09-08 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 04:07:43PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:19:26PM -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
  Careful attention and responsiveness to CPAN testers and to rt.cpan.org is
  the best cure for this.
 Alternatively, I could just not upload code to CPAN, and not have this
 problem. You're right that it's a problem. I'm not convinced that your
 cure will work with all real world volunteers.

The best cure is that if someone wishes to use a piece of software and
finds that it has gone rotten, he can take over maintenance of it.
That's how I ended up with Data::Compare.

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passing the baton onwards (was Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it))

2008-09-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:19:26PM -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:

 I recognize that CPAN is a volunteer effort, but it does seem to me there
 is a implicit responsibility on the part of the author to maintain the
 module going forward, or to pass the baton to someone else. Call it a Best

Is there an easy central visible way to flag up a module as up for adoption?
What should have been the right list to ask that question on?

 Practice, if you will. The end-user simply wants the module to work.
 Maintainers not paying attention, and the subsequent bitrot that is
 appearing on CPAN, is one of Perl's biggest problems at the moment.
 Careful attention and responsiveness to CPAN testers and to rt.cpan.org is
 the best cure for this.

Alternatively, I could just not upload code to CPAN, and not have this
problem. You're right that it's a problem. I'm not convinced that your
cure will work with all real world volunteers.

Nicholas Clark


Re: passing the baton onwards (was Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it))

2008-09-05 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nicholas Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:19:26PM -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
 
  I recognize that CPAN is a volunteer effort, but it does seem to me there
  is a implicit responsibility on the part of the author to maintain the
  module going forward, or to pass the baton to someone else. Call it a Best
 
 Is there an easy central visible way to flag up a module as up for adoption?
 What should have been the right list to ask that question on?

A couple of the PAUSE admins have been talking about that, but we
haven't really decided anything about how it should happen. There would
probably be some virtual PAUSE ID that people could pass primary
maintainership too and once those modules are there, someone could
request maintainership of them without a waiting period.

That's the way that would work with what is already in place, although
someone has to upload a new dist for it to show up in the new account.
I was thinking we'd want to do that anyway to at least modify the docs
to note its status.

Or, Andreas could change PAUSE, which is a bit more involved :)