[Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
My father who started collecting in the 1950's also had only those 2 books. Those were the only ones available at the time. The books I have, my father's, are both first editions. But not in great shape since he obviously used them! Inside the Tinfoil to Stereo is a printed letter from A.Nugent of Va., who states that the publisher discontinued the book, and that he had gotten several hundred copies which he was selling...that since it was so popular and one of the only books on the subject, he didn't know how long the copies would last before sell-out. :) Ger ger55 on ebay; ge...@comcast.net Victorian Glass Plus! http://www.tias.com/stores/vgpp http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glass_antique_and_old/ - Original Message - From: DeeDee Blais To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo For those that get tired of stories from back when I was a new collector, you can tune out now. When I started collecting in the early 70's, the only books that were available were Tinfoil to Stereo first printed in 1959 and The Fabulous Phonograph first printed in 1954. I was introduced to both those books by Ira Dueltgen. He had an extra copy of The Fabulous Phonograph that he gave or sold me at a modest price. I was disappointed to find out that Tinfoil was out of print and I had to wait what seemed like forever before the second edition was available. When I was looking for the photo of the Diamond Disk with the loud speaking attachment I checked the inside cover and found that my copy came through several collectors. On the inside cover it says: Received 1-13-66, Purchased from A. Nugent Jr. 3804 Charles City Rd. Richmond, Va. Property of H. Claire Carpenter Sr. Sold to Ira Dueltgen by Mr. Carpenter's widow Purchased from Ira by John Davis in 1978 ... gift from John Davis to Jerry Blais 12-11-2006. I sold my second edition copy of Tinfoil from a posting on phono-l some time ago. We have so many wonderful phonograph books. My only difficulty today is trying to process so much information. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ge...@comcast.net Wed Mar 12 01:53:12 2008 From: ge...@comcast.net (ger) Date: Wed Mar 12 00:53:22 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Moldy wax records Message-ID: 002a01c8841e$818d8540$6c9fe...@ger1 What does one do with moldy wax records? Throw them away? Or save them for the interesting titles, with hopes that someday someone will figure out how to fix them? :) Thanks, Ger
[Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
You are lucky to have been given that book. I was one of a very few who took From Tin Foil To Stereo out of our library. I used to know the exact spot on the shelf where it resided. One day, I went in to borrow it only to learn that it had disappeared! Someday I'll find an affordable (i.e. inexpensive or free) copy. 8-) Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John Maeder Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:13 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo I am proud that Ken Blazier gave me his copy of 'From Tinfoil To Stereo' that was given to him by Elmer Moore (a first generation Southern California collector). Both their names are inside with dedications from each generation to the next. Ken passed away earlier this winter, for those of you who may not know. I also have Del Hahn's copy of 'Edison Cylinder Phonograph Companion'. Del passed away early last year. Elmer was before my time in SoCal but heard many stories about him. I knew Ken and Del well and thought very highly of them both. I really treasure those books! When I was a kid (I started collecting at age 10), I used to check a 1954 edition of 'Fabulous Phonograph' out of the Ft. Knox (Ky.) library. The librarian told me I was the only person that had ever checked it out! On one visit when I was about 13 or 14, she gave it to me stamped 'discarded'. I still have it. Kind regards, John Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:38:39 -0700 From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo For those that get tired of stories from back when I was a new collector, you can tune out now. When I started collecting in the early 70's, the only books that were available were Tinfoil to Stereo first printed in 1959 and The Fabulous Phonograph first printed in 1954. I was introduced to both those books by Ira Dueltgen. He had an extra copy of The Fabulous Phonograph that he gave or sold me at a modest price. I was disappointed to find out that Tinfoil was out of print and I had to wait what seemed like forever before the second edition was available. When I was looking for the photo of the Diamond Disk with the loud speaking attachment I checked the inside cover and found that my copy came through several collectors. On the inside cover it says: Received 1-13-66, Purchased from A. Nugent Jr. 3804 Charles City Rd. Richmond, Va. Property of H. Claire Carpenter Sr. Sold to Ira Dueltgen by Mr. Carpenter's widow Purchased from Ira by John Davis in 1978 ... gift from John Davis to Jerry Blais 12-11-2006. I sold my second edition copy of Tinfoil from a posting on phono-l some time ago. We have so many wonderful phonograph books. My only difficulty today is trying to process so much information. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
For those that get tired of stories from back when I was a new collector, you can tune out now. When I started collecting in the early 70's, the only books that were available were Tinfoil to Stereo first printed in 1959 and The Fabulous Phonograph first printed in 1954. I was introduced to both those books by Ira Dueltgen. He had an extra copy of The Fabulous Phonograph that he gave or sold me at a modest price. I was disappointed to find out that Tinfoil was out of print and I had to wait what seemed like forever before the second edition was available. When I was looking for the photo of the Diamond Disk with the loud speaking attachment I checked the inside cover and found that my copy came through several collectors. On the inside cover it says: Received 1-13-66, Purchased from A. Nugent Jr. 3804 Charles City Rd. Richmond, Va. Property of H. Claire Carpenter Sr. Sold to Ira Dueltgen by Mr. Carpenter's widow Purchased from Ira by John Davis in 1978 ... gift from John Davis to Jerry Blais 12-11-2006. I sold my second edition copy of Tinfoil from a posting on phono-l some time ago. We have so many wonderful phonograph books. My only difficulty today is trying to process so much information. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From appywan...@hotmail.com Tue Mar 11 19:13:03 2008 From: appywan...@hotmail.com (John Maeder) Date: Tue Mar 11 19:13:13 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo In-Reply-To: 382354.90473...@web37009.mail.mud.yahoo.com References: 382354.90473...@web37009.mail.mud.yahoo.com Message-ID: blu112-w502c29804de9503fe5035cdc...@phx.gbl I am proud that Ken Blazier gave me his copy of 'From Tinfoil To Stereo' that was given to him by Elmer Moore (a first generation Southern California collector). Both their names are inside with dedications from each generation to the next. Ken passed away earlier this winter, for those of you who may not know. I also have Del Hahn's copy of 'Edison Cylinder Phonograph Companion'. Del passed away early last year. Elmer was before my time in SoCal but heard many stories about him. I knew Ken and Del well and thought very highly of them both. I really treasure those books! When I was a kid (I started collecting at age 10), I used to check a 1954 edition of 'Fabulous Phonograph' out of the Ft. Knox (Ky.) library. The librarian told me I was the only person that had ever checked it out! On one visit when I was about 13 or 14, she gave it to me stamped 'discarded'. I still have it. Kind regards, John Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:38:39 -0700 From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo For those that get tired of stories from back when I was a new collector, you can tune out now. When I started collecting in the early 70's, the only books that were available were Tinfoil to Stereo first printed in 1959 and The Fabulous Phonograph first printed in 1954. I was introduced to both those books by Ira Dueltgen. He had an extra copy of The Fabulous Phonograph that he gave or sold me at a modest price. I was disappointed to find out that Tinfoil was out of print and I had to wait what seemed like forever before the second edition was available. When I was looking for the photo of the Diamond Disk with the loud speaking attachment I checked the inside cover and found that my copy came through several collectors. On the inside cover it says: Received 1-13-66, Purchased from A. Nugent Jr. 3804 Charles City Rd. Richmond, Va. Property of H. Claire Carpenter Sr. Sold to Ira Dueltgen by Mr. Carpenter's widow Purchased from Ira by John Davis in 1978 ... gift from John Davis to Jerry Blais 12-11-2006. I sold my second edition copy of Tinfoil from a posting on phono-l some time ago. We have so many wonderful phonograph books. My only difficulty today is trying to process so much information. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ander...@tampabay.rr.com Tue Mar 11 19:40:38 2008 From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com (Steve Andersen) Date: Tue Mar 11 19:40:57 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo In-Reply-To: blu112-w502c29804de9503fe5035cdc...@phx.gbl References: 382354.90473...@web37009.mail.mud.yahoo.com blu112-w502c29804de9503fe5035cdc...@phx.gbl Message-ID: da433142-68e1-4c24-b6ad-328822cd4...@tampabay.rr.com Folks, I started collecting
[Phono-L] Tinfoil To Stereo
Hi, What's a first printing from 1959 worth? I have my father's from that era. Thanks -- Original message -- From: DeeDee Blais deedeebl...@yahoo.com When I started collecting some 30+ years ago there were very few books on talking machines. I remember looking through Ira Dueltgen's copy of 'Tinfoil to Stereo' and being filled with amazement. I could not wait to own a copy of my own and I remember being disappointed when I found out that it was out of print. Sometime during the seventies another edition was printed and I finally owned my own copy. I now have an extra copy and if anyone wants to own it, the price is $20 plus mailing. It is in good condition but it is not a first edition. Please contact me off list if interested. Thanks, Jerry Blais Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waltsomm...@comcast.net Sun Nov 18 21:16:02 2007 From: waltsomm...@comcast.net (Walt) Date: Sun Nov 18 21:13:33 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Electrola light bulbs In-Reply-To: 51dfdab8-0b3b-41ad-a03d-52f6cfa87...@fuse.net Message-ID: 000e01c82a6b$483354d0$0301a...@daddell Tungsten lamps were indeed designed as superior replacements for the carbon lamps, but I think a bit of history is important. By the time the Electrolas were being engineered and sold, the process of drawing tungsten into a reliable filament for lighting had, for all practical purposes, been perfected. It is true that the earliest tungsten filaments (probably before 1911 or so) were unreliable with short service life but I don't think that the earliest tungsten filament bulbs would have been used in an Electrola (since that early market probably disappeared around 1913 or so). OKAY - I JUST GOTTA WRITE THIS - I COULDN'T STOP THINKERS ONLY READ PAST THIS POINT The quest for developing tungsten filament technology is a bit interesting (well, to a nerd like me it is) especially since carbon lamps had been perfected by about 1902. In short, a carbon filament only emits about 2 to 3 lumens per watt and the light is very yellow looking. Tungsten, on the other hand, produced upwards of 10 or 12 lumens per watt and had a much broader spectrum (not only yellow). Yes, those turn of the 20th century shakers and movers just had to have the latest and greatest of everything. About the only improvements that have been made since 1910 have to do with improved reliability due to improved manufacturing processes and variations of the light spectrum by using different gases. A I can smell the sweet essence of LED technology already!!! Early tungsten filaments were normally made by extruding a thick sludge like mixture of finely ground/pulverized tungsten and a binder through a die. That produced fairly short segments because they were so brittle and it meant that multiple filaments had to be series strung in order to reach a sufficient electrical resistance. This is why the earliest tungsten filaments were exceedingly fragile prior to about 1911 or thereabout. My old white collar employer, Westinghouse Electric Corporation, improved the technology (between about 1904 and 1909 I believe) by producing a longer single continuous filament using a different extrusion process. The fact that Westinghouse was able to produce a single element (as opposed to multiple segments that later had to be joined) resulted in a more durable filament but it still had problems. Around 1910 General Electric perfected the tungsten filament by developing a process to press or swage the tungsten and then draw it through a die to produce which produced a denser and more refined wire for use as a filament. GE's process produced a filament that was not [as] brittle, far more ductile, and had much greater tensile strength (i.e. it could not be rattled and broken as easily) than the early ones. It was after this time that that the light bulb market started to shift from carbon to tungsten. Carbon filaments apparently stayed in the marketplace after 1910 and until the end of the 1920's partly because Japanese companies manufactured them, and it is my general understanding that, despite GE's perfection of the tungsten filament, carbon lamps tended to hold up better in harsh environments like the railroad and mining industries, just to name a few, subjected them to.) Go to sleep now Walt -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Jim Nichol Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:54 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Electrola light bulbs I don't understand. Tungsten filaments were invented to outlast carbon filaments. Jim Nichol On Nov 18,
