Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded
Very nice. I like blurry and impressionistic. (This is interesting because one of the things that the impressionist painters were rebelling against was that sharp [some said stark] reality captured by the then new process of photography...) Mike Vande Bunt Guy Glorieux wrote: It was Sprind Day a few days ago. My wife had bought some tulips to celebrate. The sun was shining inside the house. I pulled my pinhole Brownie Hawkey and got this shot. 2 minutes hand-held. More and more, I do these blurry, impressionistic type of images. http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/tulipeslr.jpg Hope you enjoy! Guy P.S. The day after Spring Day, the weather turned sour: more than 20cm (about 8 inches) of snow in two days. Br It seems winter will never end here in Montreal! ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded
Leezy - I'm in Westchester, but in NYC two days a week. Barb
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes
- Original Message - From: Temi t...@temioriginals.com Would it be best to come up with a total opening and figure time from this or to figure time for one pinhole and then divide this by the number of pinholes used. - Original Message - From: William Erickson erick...@ic.mankato.mn.us My experience was that adding up the areas of the multiple pinholes, dividing that into the area of an f22 aperture at the pinhole-film distance being used, and multiplying the metered f22 time by the product of the division works fine. The above 3 seemingly different approaches (2 by Temi, 1 by William) are in fact the same thing. They are based, even if it doesn't look like that, in finding the exposure time needed for an aperture equivalent to a pinhole with an area equal to the combined areas of all pinholes being used. I'd say that if the pinholes are very close, the above approaches could be the right ones, but the more pinholes we used at once and the more they are separated from each other, increases the need for greater exposure time that the one dictated by the 3 mentioned approaches. Some other factors requiring consideration are: focal length of the camera and shape of the film plane, whether all pinholes are the same size, equidistant, etc. Yes, I know, I am not given any suggestion, so far! I believe is difficult to suggest a method that works for all cases. My suggestion, find the exposure time using any of the above 3 methods (result would be the same, anyway) and then increase the exposure time by 1 stop and do some trial and errors. Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes
Temi, I never succeeded in finding a safe formula for my multiple pinholes cameras : there are really a lot of variables which influence the exposure . The major ones seem to be : - 1) the way you use multiple pinhole : opening /closing the various pinholes simultaneously or not. The sum of x exposures has not the same effect than a x time unique exposure - 2) the disposal of your pinholes and the degree of overlapping picture they generate. This determinates the fall off which occurs on the outer limits of the image formed by each pinhole. So, depending on the plans of your camera and the relative size of pinholes (if they are different), you will have to try to evaluate the way the light will hit your film or paper on the other side. As a rule, I generally give my preference to overexposure when I start searching the right exposure because, in pinhole photography we are very more often risking underexposure than overexposure. In practical conditions, if you have a multiple pinhole camera with only 2 normally sized pinholes spaced so that the overlapping zone is narrow, starting by determining exposure for 1 pinhole and using it for a simultaneous use of the 2 pinholes gets you very close to the right exposure... But if you try a 30 pinholes camera with a match box, then, you will have to take in account the total quantity of light (cumulative exposures) hitting your film or paper ! I wish you good experiments ! Jean - Original Message - From: Temi t...@temioriginals.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Cc: Temi t...@temioriginals.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes What is the best way to figure the approx time when using more than one pinhole. There are a lot of variables as to placement of pinholes and sizes, etc., but what is a good starting point to experiment. Would it be best to come up with a total opening and figure time from this or to figure time for one pinhole and then divide this by the number of pinholes used. ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:Help scanning pinhole photos
Thanks, George, I've used the skew before, not for this. I need more selecting skill. :) Pam George L Smyth wrote: --- Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com wrote: I don't know about pinhole, but when photographing with a regular lens the general rule is to photograph approximately 30% overlap because the lens introduces enough distortion that it would be impossible to line up the adjacent shots otherwise. This can be overcome by using the Skew command in Photoshop. It makes things much easier than not having this ability (which has been the case when I've done this in the darkroom). Cheers - george ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded
--- Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca wrote: It was Sprind Day a few days ago. My wife had bought some tulips to celebrate. The sun was shining inside the house. I pulled my pinhole Brownie Hawkey and got this shot. 2 minutes hand-held. More and more, I do these blurry, impressionistic type of images. Guy - I love the imagery. Handheld Pinhole Photography certainly has its place, and I think that you nailed this one pretty well. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:Help scanning pinhole photos
--- Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com wrote: I don't know about pinhole, but when photographing with a regular lens the general rule is to photograph approximately 30% overlap because the lens introduces enough distortion that it would be impossible to line up the adjacent shots otherwise. This can be overcome by using the Skew command in Photoshop. It makes things much easier than not having this ability (which has been the case when I've done this in the darkroom). Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded
Guy Thanks for the inspiring image. I would not have thought of handholding, but the movement and blurring of parts of the image adds a deeper level of meaning for me. I've become, over the years, more interested in the essence rather than pure descriptive fact of a place or object. Happy Trails, Kurt Norlin
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes
In a message dated 3/25/01 10:05:16 AM, t...@temioriginals.com writes: Would it be best to come up with a total opening and figure time from this or to figure time for one pinhole and then divide this by the number of pinholes used. I would run a test roll giving each hole it's indicated exposure, then adjust as needed. With my converted 6x9 camera this worked fine. As you say, placement and individual hole size (are they all equal f/stops?) and the degree of light falloff between adjacent holes will determine what correction is needed. Happy Trails, Kurt Norlin
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
Oops, never mind that last question, I must be brain dead this morning. Pam Pam Niedermayer wrote: I especially like the vase; although the vase itself seems a bit underexposed, very little detail. This is strange, since you have a fairly large white highlight. Were you shooting film or paper? Pam Vladimir Mikovic wrote: Hi all, I uploaded 3 images at, http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o1.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o2.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o3.jpg These were done with zero2000 on paper negativ (Fortespeed 3 BW photographic paper). Comments welcome... Thanks, Best regards, Vladimir mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
I especially like the vase; although the vase itself seems a bit underexposed, very little detail. This is strange, since you have a fairly large white highlight. Were you shooting film or paper? Pam Vladimir Mikovic wrote: Hi all, I uploaded 3 images at, http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o1.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o2.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o3.jpg These were done with zero2000 on paper negativ (Fortespeed 3 BW photographic paper). Comments welcome... Thanks, Best regards, Vladimir mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
Hi Vladimir! Lovely, moody images. Post more :-) Tina I uploaded 3 images at, http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o1.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o2.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o3.jpg These were done with zero2000 on paper negativ (Fortespeed 3 BW photographic paper). _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded
In a message dated 3/25/01 11:46:11 AM, bi...@aol.com writes: Guy - Really beautiful - thanks for sharing a very promising spring image (It's cold in NY today, again).I like the figure in the background. Barb Yes it is cold in NY today. Where are you Barb? I'm on Long Island. Are we neighbors? leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New to List
In a message dated 3/25/01 6:32:53 AM, robin.roc...@virgin.net writes: I recognise one or two names from the old AOL photo group (leezie?) anyway it is good to see the work Hi Robin. Welcome to the world of pinhole photography! You'll love it. It's addictive. Best, leezy
[pinhole-discussion] New images
Hi all, I uploaded 3 images at, http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o1.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o2.jpg http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o3.jpg These were done with zero2000 on paper negativ (Fortespeed 3 BW photographic paper). Comments welcome... Thanks, Best regards, Vladimir mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New picture uploaded
Guy - Really beautiful - thanks for sharing a very promising spring image (It's cold in NY today, again).I like the figure in the background. Barb
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes
My experience was that adding up the areas of the multiple pinholes, dividing that into the area of an f22 aperture at the pinhole-film distance being used, and multiplying the metered f22 time by the product of the division works fine. - Original Message - From: Temi t...@temioriginals.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Cc: Temi t...@temioriginals.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes What is the best way to figure the approx time when using more than one pinhole. There are a lot of variables as to placement of pinholes and sizes, etc., but what is a good starting point to experiment. Would it be best to come up with a total opening and figure time from this or to figure time for one pinhole and then divide this by the number of pinholes used. ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] New to List
Greetings all, I am new to this list, but not to photography. I have started to use pinhole cameras for 5x4 Polaroid work, with a view to giving me a fresh look at picture making, as well as using it on an a trip to Greece this Autumn. I recognise one or two names from the old AOL photo group (leezie?) anyway it is good to see the work best wishes Robin
Re: [pinhole-discussion] www.tinamartin.com
Good to see your site Tina. I enjoyed your photos. best wishes Robin
[pinhole-discussion] Multiple Pinholes
What is the best way to figure the approx time when using more than one pinhole. There are a lot of variables as to placement of pinholes and sizes, etc., but what is a good starting point to experiment. Would it be best to come up with a total opening and figure time from this or to figure time for one pinhole and then divide this by the number of pinholes used.
[pinhole-discussion] www.tinamartin.com
Hi Tina, Nice site - I enjoyed the transfers - will need to try this myself someday. Your Clouds page is labeled Trees - thought you might like to correct this.
