Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box
At 05:58 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the pinhole. How about a punch? If you were to insert a piece of soft wood (like a 2x4 clamped to the edge of a table) into the oatmeal box for a mandrel, you could smack a short piece of brass tubing (or anything else you could find lying around) with a hammer and punch out a pretty good circular hole--especially if you filed the edges of the tube to make it slightly sharp (but not skin-cutting sharp). Another possibility would be to use a circle template, a mandrel like above, and a ball-point pen. Use the template to draw a circle on the cannister in the desired spot, and then keep going around and around using the template as a guide, bearing down hard with the pen...soon enough you'll come through the other side. A little time consuming, but pretty safe--I'm not sure you couldn't do as much damage with a Dremel as with a knife! Cheers, Chad
[pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box
I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the pinhole. I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip to my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel wouldn't cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill. Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should I buy for this job? Thanks, Chris _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
owww am I jealous...I'm just starting down that rocky road now -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Eric S. Theise Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:48 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers Andy Schmitt writes: Digital is cool...until you see the image size for a good 4x5 scan.. 8o) Hey, media is (are?) cheap. And my Photoshop skills are orders of magnitude better than whatever darkroom skills I may be said to possess. --E ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
Andy Schmitt writes: Digital is cool...until you see the image size for a good 4x5 scan.. 8o) Hey, media is (are?) cheap. And my Photoshop skills are orders of magnitude better than whatever darkroom skills I may be said to possess. --E
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
ow...(light bulb flashing) ... I see what you mean. hmmm I'll have to give that a bit of thought. I was going to try it with a cold light head slightly raised above the carrier due to my super duper custom filter carrier that I built for my DII so I could do split filter printing... Digital is cool...until you see the image size for a good 4x5 scan.. 8o) keep in touch let us know how this comes out.. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Eric S. Theise Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:29 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers Thanks for the tip, Andy, but I think you are missing my point. Which is: the 4 x 5 enlargers I've used insist that 4 x 5 is the image as framed in a negative carrier. Once you get away from the negative carrier, and try to print the whole negative, you'll find that the diameter of the circular housing of the enlarger is too small to cover the whole sheet, and you'll end up losing the corners of the negative. At least that's been my experience on three different enlargers, and I'm keen to know if there are 4 x 5 enlargers that have a large enough head to encircle the whole 4 x 5 negative. As to a carrier, I just got two sheets of glass, had the edges smoothed out by the supplier, and hinged them with gaffers tape. That part worked fine. I was just losing my corners (and my mind). Another reason why digital is looking better and better. Thanks, Eric ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
Thanks for the tip, Andy, but I think you are missing my point. Which is: the 4 x 5 enlargers I've used insist that 4 x 5 is the image as framed in a negative carrier. Once you get away from the negative carrier, and try to print the whole negative, you'll find that the diameter of the circular housing of the enlarger is too small to cover the whole sheet, and you'll end up losing the corners of the negative. At least that's been my experience on three different enlargers, and I'm keen to know if there are 4 x 5 enlargers that have a large enough head to encircle the whole 4 x 5 negative. As to a carrier, I just got two sheets of glass, had the edges smoothed out by the supplier, and hinged them with gaffers tape. That part worked fine. I was just losing my corners (and my mind). Another reason why digital is looking better and better. Thanks, Eric
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
Eric get yourself some anti-Newton glass bigger than the negative 1/4 marine plywood (no voids). Cut out the wood bigger than the negative (but smaller than the glass...) on 2 pieces. Cut the wood to fit your enlarger. I would flat black the wood after you smooth it out. If you want to be fancy you could route out the plywood so the glass is nestled inside it on each side... a hinge to keep it aligned might be a good thought too... I'm going to do one this summer so let me know how you come out... I'll do the same. have fun andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Eric S. Theise Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:10 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers D Hill writes: I'll second Len's advice on a used D2 - they may be a bit more expensive than other used enlargers but it quite possibly is the last enlarger you will ever buy. Glad to see this thread; I have an enlarger-related question that I'm sure can be answered by people on this list. I shoot 4 x 5. I like printing the whole sheet of film, that is, all the way to the edges, including where the film holder shows and the identifying notches. But on most of the enlargers I've tried, including Omegas, it's impossible to get the whole sheet. I've rigged up a glass sandwich to hold the negative, but the apparatus still manages to roundly clip off the corners. Are there any 4 x 5 enlargers that will handle the full negative or do I need to go to a larger size? Thanks in advance, Eric _
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
- Original Message - From: Eric S. Theise mat...@cyberwerks.com Are there any 4 x 5 enlargers that will handle the full negative or do I need to go to a larger size? Yes, a 5x7 would do what you want. A cheap option, if you can find one, is an old 5x7 Elwood Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
D Hill writes: I'll second Len's advice on a used D2 - they may be a bit more expensive than other used enlargers but it quite possibly is the last enlarger you will ever buy. Glad to see this thread; I have an enlarger-related question that I'm sure can be answered by people on this list. I shoot 4 x 5. I like printing the whole sheet of film, that is, all the way to the edges, including where the film holder shows and the identifying notches. But on most of the enlargers I've tried, including Omegas, it's impossible to get the whole sheet. I've rigged up a glass sandwich to hold the negative, but the apparatus still manages to roundly clip off the corners. Are there any 4 x 5 enlargers that will handle the full negative or do I need to go to a larger size? Thanks in advance, Eric
RE: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
This is why I asked for an approximate location Peters Valley might have a modified DII - D2 we would be willing to part with for less than Ebay prices.. 8o) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of I Zarkov Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:10 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers I agreee totally about getting an Omega D series enlarger. I've had a D2V for about 20 years now and it's still great. Just found a point source head for it and will be printing electron microscope negatives. Extremely versatile assortment of heads: cold light, condenser, color fits many needs, worth the cost. IF you want to enlarges neg to larger dimensions get the longer column. Always good to look locally if you can to avoid higher shipping costs. Save the $ and invest in a good lens. Look for a package deal as the additional parts- negative holders, lens cones, replacement condensers can get a bit pricey if bought separately. I found it cheaper to have a machine shop cut me neagive carriers than pay the photo-shop price. Good luck, Z _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
I agreee totally about getting an Omega D series enlarger. I've had a D2V for about 20 years now and it's still great. Just found a point source head for it and will be printing electron microscope negatives. Extremely versatile assortment of heads: cold light, condenser, color fits many needs, worth the cost. IF you want to enlarges neg to larger dimensions get the longer column. Always good to look locally if you can to avoid higher shipping costs. Save the $ and invest in a good lens. Look for a package deal as the additional parts- negative holders, lens cones, replacement condensers can get a bit pricey if bought separately. I found it cheaper to have a machine shop cut me neagive carriers than pay the photo-shop price. Good luck, Z _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] painting cookie tin cameras
--- Shannon Stoney shannonsto...@earthlink.net wrote: I just developed a negative that I made in a cookie tin camera yesterday. It looks sort of flat; that is , there are no good darks I suspect, just looking at the negative. It looks like it might be fogged all over sort of evenly. I wonder if that might be because the inside of the tin is still a bit shiny. It's as if the shininess of the tin is showing through the black although you can't see any unpainted tin. I gave it one coat of flat black; should I give it another coat? Also, I got rather cheap black enamel. Maybe I should have gotten a slightly better grade. Did you paint the bottom of the can, as well as its lid? I don't think that the quality of the paint will have much to do with it, but if the inside is not completely covered, then you should try an additional coat of paint. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
In a message dated 5/22/02 11:05:50 PM Central Daylight Time, zopp...@yahoo.com writes: am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? check http;//www.cameras.com , its the web site for EP Levine in Boston, I order from them all the time, and usually get stuff in about 5-7 days max ,. Also check http://www.mpex.com (Midwest Photo Exchange) again another fine place to find stuff, in both places, E P Levine and MPE , the sales folks are of great help., at EP Levine , ask for Steve or Jill, and at MPE ask for Tom, .. Good Luck.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
I'll second Len's advice on a used D2 - they may be a bit more expensive than other used enlargers but it quite possibly is the last enlarger you will ever buy. Don Leonard Peterson lrp...@hotmail.com wrote: Shannon Stoney wrote: I am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? Reply: I've been using an Omega D2 for years with a Zone VI cold light and it's fine. I use it for 35mm to 4x5 enlargements and 8x10 contacts. They are always offered on Ebay. It's a real workhorse with few moving parts that can break. Contact me for more info and advice. Len _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
[pinhole-discussion] painting cookie tin cameras
I just developed a negative that I made in a cookie tin camera yesterday. It looks sort of flat; that is , there are no good darks I suspect, just looking at the negative. It looks like it might be fogged all over sort of evenly. I wonder if that might be because the inside of the tin is still a bit shiny. It's as if the shininess of the tin is showing through the black although you can't see any unpainted tin. I gave it one coat of flat black; should I give it another coat? Also, I got rather cheap black enamel. Maybe I should have gotten a slightly better grade. --shannon
