Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available

2011-11-02 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:24 +0100, Heinz W. Simoneit wrote:
 Hi Thorsten,  *,
 
 Thorsten Behrens schrieb:
  Hi *,
 
  for 3.4.4 rc2, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
  non-mirrored
 [...]
  The list of fixed bugs in this release is here:
 
  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-4-4-release-3.4.4.2.log
 
  So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated - and
  validation that those bugs are really fixed.
 
 tried basics in  (de-)
 - writer
 - calc
 - base  (MySQL-DB)
 without any probs.
 
 One minor  flaw in base:
 When opening a table by double-click  it doesn't stay opened  --  you 
 have to right-click and open.

Running Ubuntu 10.10 (AMD64), Gnome - no problem opening a table with
dbl-click? (only checked for embedded DB and SQLite w/ODBC)

 
 Best,
 Heinz
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [LibreOfficeBox] Install files

2011-08-28 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 19:34 -0400, drew wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On the LibreOfficeBox development server there are currently two
 different approaches and directory trees for installation files.
 
 Currently the NA-DVD uses the 3.3.3 stable release files, in the same
 form that a user would download them from the website.

Hi,

Just checked and see the 3.3.4 and 3.4.2 files under
installer/libreoffice/ now - thanks you 

I think for now, I would just as soon actually see what the ISO create
script will produce from the files as is - mostly because I don't want
to be a point of failure again so please don't wait on me to do anytnig
further.

Meanwhile - off to see if a little cut and paste will make our 3.3.3
page morph into 3.3.4 now, this will be a clone of the current page
anyway, and I won't publish just yet. When I _really_ get done..maybe
I'll beat the build script for the first one..we'll see.

Thanks again very much,

//drew






 
 I was using a working assumption that this stable directory tree would
 be the one used going forward - but it seems not to be updated with any
 of the stable latest files, 3.3 or 3.4 releases.
 
 There is also a different approach being used by the De box team now, it
 seems, where they use the individual files and not the single .gz files
 such as from the download site - I believe this is done so as to enable
 some different installation paths..cool.
 
 So -
 
 1 - would it be possible to get the newer releases under the stable
 directory tree, in the 'download' style, for now?
 
 2 - is there a decision on what is going to happen going forward?
 
 Thanks
 
 //drew
 
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Create 1st ISO for testing

2011-08-28 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:33 +0200, Erich Christian wrote:
 Hi Drew,
 
 answering both of your mails  :-)
 
 Am 28.08.2011 01:25, schrieb drew:
  I would like to ask for the creation of the 1st ISO image from:
  dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org - if Erich or Christian or ? would
  do that I would much appreciate it.
 
 Uwe has adjusted the scripts [1] earlier today to run a test from
 http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/
 
 It's too early for an iso though, please run a linkchecker across your
 site, e.g. you are linking to the german software installers in the
 folder 'assets/extras' which doesn't really make sense I guess.  ;-)

OK - my last email went before I saw this - ok - I'll do that this
evening, then do hold off till I send another email
 
 Assets in general:
 Please remove your english (a.o.) files also from 'addons' (and maybe
 elsewhere mixed up with german files) and generate some folders within

Alright - let me look and if I have questions I'll ask first, but likely
just move the stuff.
 'NA' for your content.

How much content, all items not part of the binary install? Can do if
so.

 We will afterwards move the whole german stuff into 'de' in order to
 decrease confusion and the amount of 1st level folders in assets.


 
 Moving the files/folders by the cms interface should hopefully adjust
 the (working) links within your pages.

I'm not worried about that now, I think your right that if I use the CMS
gui move the files it will autofix that pages - even if not that is a
quick trip to an text editor for a one time fix.

Thanks,

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Create 1st ISO for testing

2011-08-27 Thread drew
Hi,

I would like to ask for the creation of the 1st ISO image from:
dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org - if Erich or Christian or ? would
do that I would much appreciate it.

Will need to know where the file can be retrieved from when it is done.

Thanks,

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] [LibreOfficeBox] Install files

2011-08-27 Thread drew
Hi,

On the LibreOfficeBox development server there are currently two
different approaches and directory trees for installation files.

Currently the NA-DVD uses the 3.3.3 stable release files, in the same
form that a user would download them from the website.

I was using a working assumption that this stable directory tree would
be the one used going forward - but it seems not to be updated with any
of the stable latest files, 3.3 or 3.4 releases.

There is also a different approach being used by the De box team now, it
seems, where they use the individual files and not the single .gz files
such as from the download site - I believe this is done so as to enable
some different installation paths..cool.

So -

1 - would it be possible to get the newer releases under the stable
directory tree, in the 'download' style, for now?

2 - is there a decision on what is going to happen going forward?

Thanks

//drew




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Re: [libreoffice-projects] new project at libreofficebox.org

2011-08-18 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 13:04 -0300, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
 Hi Drew
 
 
  Please do not do that, I really do not want to go there right now.
 
 
 I didn't. =) I'm using my personal sftp server instead.

Ah - well, I should clear up my English.

I actually thought that the Br ISO was being hosted on the TDF servers,
until recently when I browsed one of mirror sites.

Just to be clear, the ability to move your file to the TDF (Shared
community resource) is possible and does work as advertised - it simply
requires you to use a third party trusted intermediary to do so.

Yes, I've used that 'parking lot' approach and I will likely use it
again.

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] NA-DVD CMS access - Doc and dictionary files

2011-07-02 Thread Drew Jensen
On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 07:49 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 OK
 I have uploaded to my server [ 
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html ]
 the newest French dictionaries and the Full book for the Calc Guide.

OK

 
 The documentation.html file on that server shows the addition
 but the dictionary list does not show the 4.1 French dictionaries.
 
 Do you want me to work on those files?
 
 How do you deal with the controls in German?

It's in English for me...maybe you have German set in your account
profile. Next time I login I'll look and change it to English if you do,
or you can if you get there first. 

 That system will not Translate with Google's system.

No not when it is embedded controls on the page, it will not.

//drew



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[libreoffice-projects] SilverStripe question - sort of

2011-07-01 Thread drew
Hi,

Still have one small nggling issue with the site at
http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/info

The issue: if you use the base URL, alone, 
http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/

it is still throwing a 404 error.

Any ideas on this one? 

Thanks,

//drew




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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Day 14 (of 21) - Files to the server

2011-07-01 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 20:07 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 On 06/30/2011 03:46 PM, drew wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just a quick note.
 
  Moved, what I think are, the remaining files to 'the parking lot' server
  and dashed off a note to Erich.
 
  Will get back into HTML page fun later this evening, and will post an
  email here again when I'm ready to call it quits for the night.
 
  7 days to go - can we do it?
 
  Thanks,
 
  //drew
 The documentation page does not have the full book for Calc listed.
 I just noticed that .odt and .pdf files are now online on the LO doc page.
 Do you want to add those links to the CMS server pages?
 I will be doing so for the .NA.us site sometime soon so it keeps 
 up-to-date.

Hi,

Yes, let's get the LibreOffice Calc guide in place on both servers.

If you want to get it up to the libo-na.us server i'll move it over to
the CMS server and link that in from the get go.


/drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Day 14 (of 21) - Files to the server

2011-07-01 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:46 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 On 07/01/2011 11:30 AM, drew wrote:
  On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 20:07 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
  On 06/30/2011 03:46 PM, drew wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just a quick note.
 
  Moved, what I think are, the remaining files to 'the parking lot' server
  and dashed off a note to Erich.
 
  Will get back into HTML page fun later this evening, and will post an
  email here again when I'm ready to call it quits for the night.
 
  7 days to go - can we do it?
 
  Thanks,
 
  //drew
  The documentation page does not have the full book for Calc listed.
  I just noticed that .odt and .pdf files are now online on the LO doc page.
  Do you want to add those links to the CMS server pages?
  I will be doing so for the .NA.us site sometime soon so it keeps
  up-to-date.
  Hi,
 
  Yes, let's get the LibreOffice Calc guide in place on both servers.
 
  If you want to get it up to the libo-na.us server i'll move it over to
  the CMS server and link that in from the get go.
 
 
  /drew
 
 Will do so this weekend.  Do you want me to place them in a new folder 
 for you or just do the uploading to the proper folders?
 I wonder about adding a link to the documentation page for the printed 
 Lulu book[s] that is[are] referenced on the LO document page[s]?
 
 Also should our install page have German language added to it?  That is 
 the only one that is missing that is common for the NA region, I think.  
 Also the installs are currently 3.3.2, so should it be updated to 3.3.3?

I suppose - when you asked this the other day I think I misunderstood
and thought you meant a full set of HTML pages in German but you just
mean a section on the one page - that would be fine IMO.

 
 I can do the work and email it to you, until I get an account for the 
 server.  I can also add the updated French and German[?] to the pages 
 that was asked for by Florian and the others.

I would rather you did not do that - that pages are being changed over
to work with SilverStripe and far enough along now that I would like to
just work in the one environment.

 
 -
 
 Since there is now the second line for navigation;
 would you like me to split the Extension page to Extensions.html and 
 Dictionaries.html?

Maybe - we can look at that - but right now I just want to get what we
had there and linked properly. I'm moving things around in backend
(different directory structure), after that a split would be fairly
easy.

 
 The newer style of the dictionaries layout I created looks better than 
 the old one you are using.
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict
 
 I made the the look where you do not keep stating the language for every 
 row if it is the same on the next line.  It makes the reading much 
 better.  I added green dotted lines as well, to see if that helps.  But 
 what I can do it just take the saved file from the browser and make two 
 copies.  One where the dictionaries are removed and the other where the 
 extensions are.  I would add the new navigation option to those pages as 
 well.
 
 ---
 
 So who do I contact to get the account for helping get the editing done 
 without having to save from the browser and then email the results to you?

Go go

http://libreofficebox.org/forums

Make an account and that is used for your credentials - just drop me an
email when you are done and I'll move your account into the correct
group.


//drew


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[NA-DVD] Day 13 (of 21) was - Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-30 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 09:29 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of 
 the emails.

Sorry to hear and hope you are indeed feeling better.
 
 
 Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer.  All the 
 dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
 You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list 
 on the extensions.html file.  That has all the dictionaries linked with 
 their dates.
 http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip
 
 I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files 
 from the web site server yet.

LOL - well, small problem there - I have 181 files in my latest pull
from the server, in May when the last .iso was created, and yesterday I
asked to have the files moved from the Libo-na.us server to the TDF cms
server - this morning I find 404 files in this dictionary directory.

I really thought we agreed on two items:
1 - nothing on the disc that is not referenced from the UI.
2 - no new files would go into the disc directory on server without all
of us knowing in advance.
[On the second point - I bear some responsibility here - seems I missed
an email from you on June 2nd, where you are talking about updating
files, so I'll take the hit on that one...]

- this is going to make for a long day it seems.

Moving forward today - I propose to move the files I have from May to
the 'parking lot' on Erich's server (he was nice enough to give me info
on that last night - thank you] and have those moved into the CMS
system. I'll then delete the new dictionary files and that should put us
back to a file load that matching what has been reviewed earlier.

Then - we can step back and look at those files on the na.us server and
see which ones really are updates. I ran diff on a few of them and found
no changes, BTW, beyond the file name - there where a few with changes
also, however.

Which rather leads into another, related, subject. The new
extension/template site - we have, thanks to Tim, a darn near full
collection of the dictionaries and templates from the OO.o extension
site...what do we do with them?

Thanks,

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] Dictionary Files for the extension site ( was Re: en_US dictionary with April 19 2011 .dic file, plus French updates possible as well] )

2011-06-30 Thread drew
Hi,

I'm forwarding the listed email to the list.

Seems to me that there is an opportunity here to get these dictionary
files up to the LibO extension site...shall we take it?

//drew

 Forwarded Message 
From: Tim Lungstrom timo...@lungstrom.com
To: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
Cc: drew d...@baseanswers.com, m...@marcpare.com, Tom Davies
tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk, carlsym...@gmail.com, italo.vign...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: en_US dictionary with April 19 2011 .dic file, plus French
updates possible as well
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:49:34 -0400

On 06/30/2011 06:13 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hello,

 can someone follow-up on this, or did someone already do? It's a bit out
 of my scope, I guess :-)

 Florian

Attached are the most up-to-date French dictionaries, so far, plus the 
en_US one listed in the subject line.

Three of French dictionaries have not been uploaded, do to it slipping 
through cracks in my memory after I downloaded the newest ones.  I was 
going to manually update the French ones with the newest .dic word list 
files, since OpenOffice.org's site was offline more often than running.  
Then a few weeks later, that site was up enough for me to grab as many 
of the updated dictionaries as I could.

If needed, I can take newer .dic word lists that are available and 
replace the older ones to try to keep the dictionaries up-to-date.  The 
en_US .dic file was never updated with the newest one[s] that I found, 
so I created the attached one.

The newest en_US .dic file that was on the OOo site was dated 
2010-03-15, while the default installed one was dated 2007-05-04, as 
far as I can see.  The newest .dic file I found was dated 2011-04-19, so 
that was as at least one year newer than the newest one on the OOo site 
and almost four years newer than the default installed one [as far as 
I can tell about the default installed file].

The big thing about word lists .dic files, is the fact that is is just a 
list of properly spelled words.  Many of the words in the file have 
reference codes that seems to be used to reference spelling definitions, 
such as suffix replacements.  I worked on a dictionary project many 
years ago and that is the way it seemed to be done, since it takes much 
file space to do it that way.  I had to write a test program for that 
list and codes, since that was not available to the people working on 
the list creation.  It seemed that the Asian group creating the spell 
checker for the electronic typewriter did not want to share the code 
for that so that the team I worked with could make sure the work was 
done correctly.  I was the support person for that team at the college 
where the work was being done.  This was when PCs were pre-Windows machines.

dictatorship/MS
diction/SVM
dictionary/MS
dictum/M
did/4612
didact/MS

The April 2011 .dic file has about 51,000 words in it.
I have a word list, not in the .dic format, with over 213,000 word in 
it.  That list is missing some words.  dictionary was not in that 
213,000 word list for some reason.
---


Also attached to this email are two other new dictionary files that I do 
not remember seeing in the OOo web site.

 Brazilian--dictionary-thesaurus--Dicionário de Sinônimos 
Protuguês Brasil2010-05-28.oxt
 Scottish Gaelic Dictionary--gd_GB2009-02-10.oxt

Both of these have not been added to the site.  Here is the list of the 
Brazilian-Portuguese and Scottish-Gaelic dictionaries on the list.

 Portuguese (Brazilian) - Vero - Brazilian Portuguese 
Spellchecking Dictionary  Hyphenator
 - Brazilian Portuguese grammar 
checker 3.1.0 2010-11-17

 Scots Gaelic Gàidhlig An Dearbhair-litreachaidh Beag - 
Spelling dictionary for Scottish Gaelic

---

It seems that the creators of the .dic files are not often the same 
people who create the .oxt dictionaries for us to use.  Many of these 
same dictionary lists are also used for programs like Thunderbird, but 
in a different list of other archived files besides the .dic files.




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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-30 Thread drew
Hi Tim,

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:42 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 On 06/30/2011 10:02 AM, drew wrote:
  On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 09:29 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
  I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
  the emails.
 
 
  Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer.  All the
  dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
  You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
  on the extensions.html file.  That has all the dictionaries linked with
  their dates.
  http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip
 
  I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
  from the web site server yet.
  @Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!
 
 
 The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never 
 removed the older files.
 
 3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.

OK


snip

   I want to keep as many 
 of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline.  But having them 
 archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know 
 someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's 
 archived section for older versions.

I doubt anyone would mind if you do so - but you should know also that
on the CMS server all these versions are also available, from 3.3.1 -
3.4.x, at the moment. They are not directly available to web clients but
are available for disc production purposes.

 
 I think Florian will want the 3 missing 4.1 version French dictionaries 
 on their server, so I sent them to you and those emails on that message 
 thread.  

I can't speak for Florian but I he is not the real go to guy on this.

 I also found a few other .oxt dictionaries not listed on the 
 OOo site.  Those would be nice to include in the dictionary list.

Alright - well, would need to check the license on those files but
otherwise it sounds good - let's review them.

 
 The extensions.html file has all the dictionaries, as far as I remember, 
 linked to the .oxt files that have their .dic dates included so the 
 users can know who up-to-date those word lists are.  It is nice when you 
 find ones that have version numbers being updated, but, as far as I 
 know, some have been updated in the past without any version number 
 shown in the filename.
 
 Also the info you asked about what we do with all these dictionaries, 
 extensions, and templates, we/I have needing a place for sharing with 
 other projects is important.  There are so many extensions that have not 
 been added to our NA list that I have in my offline archive[s].  These 
 need to be placed on a LibreOffice server for everyone to be able to 
 download and/or use in their own CMS page[s].  LO users should not have 
 to go to flaky OOo pages to get these .oxt files.

I fully agree that it is high time to _stop_ referring LibreOffice users
to OpenOffice.org resources! Whether is documentation, wiki pages,
extensions, templates or user support.

As for using the libo-na.us server for distributing some extensions,
maybe - I'm not sure how that would work however and it would need to be
talked through. There is a definite problem facing LibreOffice users
with regards to what extensions TDF is willing to make available and I
would love to host a site that makes those TDF will not host available -
HOWEVER - I assume that will need to be unambiguously _not_ directly
associated with TDF. The LO-Portal name might work for that, but
libreOffice-na.us would likely be a big problem. 

 
 If need be, I would create several extension pages for use on a LO 
 server.  It will not be one that you can search like OOo's site, but it 
 could be organized in function groups.  Dictionaries in one group, 
 Writer aids in another. Special functions in a third, etc., etc..  We 
 can decide how the extensions are grouped.  Then you could either have 
 one large page with shortcut anchors to skip down to the group you 
 need, or make the groups different pages.

Thanks for the offer - the LibO extension site is fully under
development already. 
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-extensions

I'm sure folks there would be interested in your help.

hmm - actually I'm just assuming dictionaries will go on this site -
don't actually know - will need to ask the people making the decisions
about this service.

 
 I have over 80[?] extensions with almost 200 dictionaries, if you do not 
 count both the original and updates files.  I know there are more .oxt 
 extensions available, but I downloaded the ones that I might be 
 interested in using.  For the total number of extensions that are out 
 there on the OOo site, and other places, I feel there may be 150 to 
 200 of them, with many not needed anymore or not working with the newer 
 versions of OOo or LO.
 
 So, there are a lot of things needed to be though about for dictionaries 
 and other extensions.  

Yup - agreed

[libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Day 14 (of 21) - Files to the server

2011-06-30 Thread drew
Hi,

Just a quick note.

Moved, what I think are, the remaining files to 'the parking lot' server
and dashed off a note to Erich.

Will get back into HTML page fun later this evening, and will post an
email here again when I'm ready to call it quits for the night.

7 days to go - can we do it?

Thanks,

//drew






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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:36 +0200, Erich Christian wrote:
 Hi Drew, *
 
 Am 27.06.2011 23:33, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:
  On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
  Now things get a little more interesting.
  
  1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and
  they exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is
  they use German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use
  English. Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we
  both get what we want without duplicating files?
  
  I had a short look over it. As far as I see, only those subdirs
  containing german content carry german names. It's the 'screenshot'
  and 'templates' folder.
 
 Could you tell me the folders concerned?

Yes - sorry - I meant to get to this today, but wandered a little.

There was only a few:

artwork/clipart/pfeile
screenshots/Beispiele
screenshots/Vorlagen

I think a few others - anyway - as I said, I don't see it as a big
problem.

Right now I'm more concerned that the different teams just have a good
understanding of what structures are in place.

Also, as I said - when I could see a pattern (or what I thought was a
pattern) I tried to follow it.

i.e.

artwork/gallery/*
[I used the single directory per]

extras/misc/*
[I used the single directory per]

templates/*
[there was already a de directory (and separate sub-dir for Beispiele)
so I added en, es, fr sub-dirs]

templates/en/*
[I followed the pattern of single sub-dir for each collection of
templates]

Otherwise - where I could find a file, used both by the de and na disc
then I re-linked the HTML page to point to the file currently oh disc.

I also looked at the installer directory and THINK I understand what is
being planned there - I should put my thoughts in an email and just make
sure that we are all on the same page. (will do that on the projects
list later today)

Thanks,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:47 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi Erich, *,
 
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Erich Christian erich_...@irq.at wrote:
  Am 27.06.2011 23:33, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:
  On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
 
  As not familiar with the CMS capabilities: does move folders/files move
  the link depencies as well?? In this case making a more clear folder
  scheme might be an easy task ;o)).
 
  Silverstripe offers no possibility to rename or move folders in assets.
 
 Of course it does - moving folders works just as moving pages in the
 site tree, i.e. check the enable drag'n'drop checkbox, then drag the
 folder.

Just a quick note - that drag 'n drop feature has, it seems, a few
issues - you have to watch carefully when you use it, but it does work.

 
 And yes, it should take care of link dependencies, provided the links
 are created from within silverstripe (but there might be a bug that
 links are only corrected for the current subsite, not for the others).
 I didn't test it thoroughly. But in the basic tests it worked.
 
  Create a new one, move content, delete the old one.
 
 No, that's not necessary.
 to rename a folder, just change the name in the title entry-box and
 use the save folder button

That I tried also and that works.

Just to follow up - so far WHEN you used SilverStripe to set some
property then all the neat GUI tools work pretty well.

@Christian - While I have your attention here.

I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
~32Megs would fail. [1]

I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.

Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script with
a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?

Thanks,

//drew

 
 ciao
 Christian
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew

On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 12:58 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:47 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
  Hi Erich, *,
  
snip

 Just to follow up - so far WHEN you used SilverStripe to set some
 property then all the neat GUI tools work pretty well.
 
 @Christian - While I have your attention here.
 
 I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
 ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 
 I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
 the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.
 
 Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script with
 a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?
 

oops that [1] was to point to a screen shot from the error I get when
uploading largish files - the transfer runs for a while and then just
ends with this screen displayed:

http://lo-portal.us/temp/cms-upload-error.png




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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 
 [..]
 
  I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
  ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 
 Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
 
  I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
  the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.
 
 agreed :o))
 
  Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script
  with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?
 
 Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
 convenient for You and I'll do.

I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time :-)
and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/

Adios

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 
  On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  drew schrieb:
 
 [..]
 
  Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a
  script with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me
  ?
 
  Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
  convenient for You and I'll do.
 
  I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time
  :-) and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/
 
 If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all. Probably
 less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?

OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/

I can rename/move the directory later, sure.

For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
it along.

Thanks again,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 19:45 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  Hi drew, *,
  
  drew schrieb:
  
   On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
   drew schrieb:
  
  [..]
  
   Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a
   script with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me
   ?
  
   Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
   convenient for You and I'll do.
  
   I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time
   :-) and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/
  
  If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all. Probably
  less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?
 
 OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 

Just tried moving files using the CMS GUI - no problem.

So also need this full directory moved
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation-PDF-and-other

Then these files - to any sub-direcotry, I'll move them later

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/template-files/gallery.zip
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/template-files/layout -
presentation.zip
[note the file names breaks above]

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-ons-templates/OOOP-accessories-2.8.0.0.oxt
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-ons-templates/OOOP-templates-separated-en-US-2.8.0.1.oxt
http://libreoffice-na.us/template-fr.zip
http://libreoffice-na.us/templates-es.zip

I think that leaves few un-moved but I'll find them, no doubt :-)

Thanks once more,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
arrch - ok- let me check and be sure that the files on the lo-portal
server are still identical to the libreoffice-na.us server - if so, the
lo-portal server can handle the wget command - have used it before.

BRB

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 02:47 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  drew schrieb:
 
 [..]
 
  If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all.
  Probably less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?
 
 OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 
 recursive directory-download doesn't work.
 
 wget -r  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list
 (..
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 Connecting to libreoffice-na.us|208.109.181.237|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
 2011-06-30 02:35:24 ERROR 403: Forbidden.)
 
 Need either a list of files, a html where the files are linked or
 indexes enabled by .htaccess which would contain a line:
 Options +Indexes
 
 I can rename/move the directory later, sure.
 
 For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
 won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
 then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
 it along.
 
 O.K.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 my pleasure :o))
 
 
 
 Gruß/regards
 -- 
 Friedrich
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 20:54 -0400, drew wrote:
 arrch - ok- let me check and be sure that the files on the lo-portal
 server are still identical to the libreoffice-na.us server - if so, the
 lo-portal server can handle the wget command - have used it before.
 
 BRB

*$^ - that means nope - I blew all that away, the only copy I have
other then on the libreoffice-na.us server is on my local drives and you
can't hit them.

Ah - I know another way - will do so in a direct email now...

@Tim I'm going to allow Friedrich to login to the libreoffice-na.us site
using my FTP credentials...


//drew

 
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 02:47 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  Hi drew, *,
  
  drew schrieb:
  On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
   drew schrieb:
  
  [..]
  
   If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all.
   Probably less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?
  
  OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
  
  recursive directory-download doesn't work.
  
  wget -r  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list
  (..
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
  Connecting to libreoffice-na.us|208.109.181.237|:80... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
  2011-06-30 02:35:24 ERROR 403: Forbidden.)
  
  Need either a list of files, a html where the files are linked or
  indexes enabled by .htaccess which would contain a line:
  Options +Indexes
  
  I can rename/move the directory later, sure.
  
  For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
  won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
  then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
  it along.
  
  O.K.
  
  Thanks again,
  
  my pleasure :o))
  
  
  
  Gruß/regards
  -- 
  Friedrich
  Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:14 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi Drew, *,
 
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
 damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:
  drew schrieb:
 
  [..]
 
  I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
  ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 
  Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
 
 (this is imposed by php's settings - 



 silverstripe itself doesn't
 really care. But when you have huge files to add, please use the
 ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
 scp/rsync

OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.

snip

 
 And don't hesitate to ask if you got technical problems with
 silverstripe, or when you want to have stuff added to the css. (i.e.
 before you try to workaround any limitation in the current theme by
 adding the same manual css to every page you create, it's better to
 just add it to a global css)
 
 So far there are no eye-catcher css rules This is a hint/This is a
 warning,... but if you got one, then feel free to share and they can
 be added to be available in the wysiwyg editor (if they can be easily
 applied to a paragraph style), or at least in html-sourcecode mode (by
 manually adding divs with the corresponding ids/classes)

Yes sir - the theme is going to need changing for sure - that is on the
list as things to do...

I would like to make landing page virtual with en, es and fr displayed
depending on the users browser setting.

Here is an easy one, I would like to have 3 headers and 3 footers
available depending on which language the user has selected - with out
regard to the users browser setting.

But that is for 'next' - other fish in the fry pan for today.

Thanks again,

//drew

 
 ciao
 Christian
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 21:29 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:14 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
  Hi Drew, *,
  
  On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
  damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:
   drew schrieb:
  
   [..]
  
   I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
   ~32Megs would fail. [1]
  
   Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
  
  (this is imposed by php's settings - 
 
 
 
  silverstripe itself doesn't
  really care. But when you have huge files to add, please use the
  ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
  scp/rsync
 
 OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.
 
 snip
 
  
  And don't hesitate to ask if you got technical problems with
  silverstripe, or when you want to have stuff added to the css. (i.e.
  before you try to workaround any limitation in the current theme by
  adding the same manual css to every page you create, it's better to
  just add it to a global css)
  
  So far there are no eye-catcher css rules This is a hint/This is a
  warning,... but if you got one, then feel free to share and they can
  be added to be available in the wysiwyg editor (if they can be easily
  applied to a paragraph style), or at least in html-sourcecode mode (by
  manually adding divs with the corresponding ids/classes)
 
 Yes sir - the theme is going to need changing for sure - that is on the
 list as things to do...
 

Sorry before you waste any time responding to those next paragraphs,
it's OK I know they need thinking through regarding what ends up on
disc...

 I would like to make landing page virtual with en, es and fr displayed
 depending on the users browser setting.

 
 Here is an easy one, I would like to have 3 headers and 3 footers
 available depending on which language the user has selected - with out
 regard to the users browser setting.


 
 But that is for 'next' - other fish in the fry pan for today.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 //drew
 
  
  ciao
  Christian
  
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
Excellent - now go to bed, none of us are getting any younger...:-)

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:28 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 
  On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 20:54 -0400, drew wrote:
 
 [..]
 
  Ah - I know another way - will do so in a direct email now...
 
 [..]
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 
 .. ist charching ;o))
 
 You'll find all stuff in the NA/tmp_wget/ folder after issueing
 search for new files or the like.
 
 still charging.. 
 
 I'll stop further service now and look for my bed as we have 3:30 am
 :o))
 
 [..]
 
 Gruß/regards
 -- 
 Friedrich
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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-24 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 10:03 -0400, drew wrote:
 Hi,
 
 OK - so yesterday I managed to get all of the files we had in the
 add-on-extensions moved up to the CMS server.
 
 Also managed to get 'some' of the additional artwork files.
 
 Doing this I had to make a decision and well, I just went ahead and made
 it - though it could be changed.
 
 The directory structure on the CMS is actually a good bit different from
 the one that ended up on the NA-DVD and I decided, in order to make our
 efforts more accessible to the wider project, to use the CMS current
 structure.
 
 What that means:
 
 We had all our extensions stored in a single directory.
 The CMS system has each extension stored in a separate sub-direcoties
 under a common root. I followed this patter.
 
 For Artwork we had all of our .oxt packaged (Gallery clipart) files in a
 single directory. We also have all the thumbnails for these files stored
 in a single, and different, directory (pics). The CMS again uses
 separate sub-directories, under a common root, for artwork gallery
 files. It also includes the thumbnail graphic associated with the .oxt
 in this separate directory (and any other ancillary file associted with
 the package). I also followed suit on this.
 
 So - for today, will finish moving artwork gallery files, then other
 artwork and then move onto moving templates.
 
 Finally, I found a few (only a few) files in the NA-DVD directories that
 are not listed in our UI - something that I thought we had gotten rid
 of. I did not move these files. 
 

Hi again,

First - included the projects list on this.

Alright finished up that artwork-gallery files and moved on to the
clipart files.

Now things get a little more interesting.

1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and they
exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is they use
German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use English.
Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we both get
what we want without duplicating files?

2) The openClipArt files. Alright we have a few more then currently on
the CMS system, so no problem we add those.
But - there current files on the CMS system all use .tar.gz files and we
used .zip. Anyone care?

Thanks

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-24 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
snip
 First - included the projects list on this.
 
 Alright finished up that artwork-gallery files and moved on to the
 clipart files.
 
 Now things get a little more interesting.
 
 1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and they
 exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is they use
 German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use English.
 Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we both get
 what we want without duplicating files?

then again - do we care if a sub-directory is in English or German,
really it is just a click on a URL link on a HTML page right?

 
 2) The openClipArt files. Alright we have a few more then currently on
 the CMS system, so no problem we add those.
 But - there current files on the CMS system all use .tar.gz files and we
 used .zip. Anyone care?

and just to think out loud here - since we need to re-link the stuff on
the HTML pages anyway - I would not mind taking the .zip files I have,
bursting the apart and recreating to .tar.gz before pushing them to the
server - I suppose .gz isn't considered a problem for windows users any
longer, huh

Adios,

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Moveing asset files to the server

2011-06-23 Thread drew
Hi,

I'll be using the [NA-DVD] tag in emails that deal with setting up the
CMS based disc development system for the North-America Community Disc
Project.

OK - I really need to jump on this starting today in a serious way.

First question has to do with assets.

There are a number of add-ons (here I mean extensions and dictionaries)
included in the NA-DVD project that are currently not stored on the CMS
system. Would you that I upload those into the shared assets directory
on the server, or keep them in a separate NA directory?

I think one question like this per email is good.

Thanks

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] User Access

2011-06-23 Thread drew
Hi,

Two quick things here.

Need to setup Tim for access to the DVD development site and the
publication site. 

Second - a little house keeping. It appears Jeff C. is no longer active
in the project and it makes sense then to deactivate the login for that
account. Just as a matter of good policy, that's all.

If folks are good with it then possibly set my account up with needed
rights and I'll handle this. Just let me know.

Thanks

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Moveing asset files to the server

2011-06-23 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 22:18 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi Drew, *,
 
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:06 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 [...]
  I'd think everything of reusable stuff for any DVD should be part of the
  shared assets rather than be dug in a private folder. So I'd prefer
  the first option. This avoids uncontrolled duplication of files.
 
  Alright - I'll start moving things in a few hours - assuming no one
  tosses up a reg flag (or flashes a yellow card :) will do just that.
 
 Just a note:
 Feel free to do the initial upload on the shell/the filesystem, but
 when you move/delete files already tracked  in assets, please use the
 CMS-backend

Thanks - I'll be sure to do so.



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Moveing asset files to the server

2011-06-23 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 18:56 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 If I can get the access to the NA account,

Hi Tim,

To create your account you just need to go to:
https://libreofficebox.org/forums

Create an account - there is no real forum, this is simply the account
that will be used to give you access.

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [NA-DVD] Moveing asset files to the server

2011-06-23 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 18:56 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 If I can get the access to the NA account,
 
 AND somehow download the theme files and folders
 
 THEN I could work on editing the NA page files offline and would only 
 need to upload the text after the body tag.  This way all the 
 problems with the alignment and content, that is not part of a shared 
 folder, can be worked on then uploaded to the CMS account.
 
 I do not know where the links to share content will end up or what they 
 would be like, but the big thing I see it the visual content of the 
 pages needed editing to get them the way we want them to look like.  The 
 theme info is needed offline, but the links can be different offline 
 from online as long as you do not upload any changes to the files above 
 the body tag.
 
 Right now, the NA site on the CMS server shows the 3.3.2 installs, so 
 that will need to be updated to 3.3.3.
 
 Also, as Drew pointed out, there are a lot of included files on our DVD 
 that may not be part of the current shared system.  All of those 
 dictionaries that are in our extension listing, and other items are good 
 for sharing.  I would like to use the dictionary file I have on my NA 
 testing site, since I included their dates so we can keep track of which 
 one have been updated that do not use a version number in their file names.
 
 Also, offline I have 3 or 4 times as many non-dictionary extensions 
 [.oxt] that are not in our list.  Should those files be added to a 
 shared folder for use by others?  I also have other templates and such 
 that are not currently in our DVD listings.  These might be useful to 
 others.

@Tim, I know you have a lot of extra stuff and that can be looked at
going forward - for now though really need to stick with the stuff that
was reviewed bu the group.

The alignment issues and what-not with the html files we will work
through, but it really is an issue (not huge but is real) in moving the
static html pages to the SilverStripe system with has a few quirks,
(that isn't a prerogative just a comment) so this off-line isn't quite
that simple. If you really want to do off-line work then I'd recommend
setting up your own instance of silverstripe, it is (for out of the box
set up) a snap. But we can talk about that off-line if you like.

Thanks,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] North-America DVD site broken

2011-06-21 Thread drew
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 18:43 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 On 06/21/2011 06:31 PM, Erich Christian wrote:
  Hi Drew, *,
 
  Am 21.06.2011 19:24, schrieb drew:
  http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/info/; has a link on the
  dvd. page and it goes to an information page that looks like
  internal information for the CMS server system.
  Great - ok - well, I can go admin section now then and see what I can
  do.
  Let you know when It;s fixed
  Well, I reset what I thought would fix this - but no luck.
  This is really acting odd.
  for instance if you try this URL
  http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/info
  Well the 'homepage' of a site works best when the URL ends with ../home
  although it 'should' work when it's defined as a homepage of a dedicated
  url defined on the Behaviour tab - which does not always work as expected...
 
  So I've changed it now to
  https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/
  and things seem to work, pls check.

Hi Erich, Tim

@Erich - Thanks a BUNCH

(note the other error I mentioned in the PM seems to be fixed now
also...double thanks :)


 Going to https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/; gives me 
 the error information below.
 It seems that Firefox, or some security system, does not like the 
 security certificate for that URL.

@Tim - It's working for me here, Firefox 4.0.1 and Chromium 12.0.7..
(both under Ubuntu 11.04), though I had to accept the certificate the
first time I hit the site.

//drew




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[libreoffice-projects] [magazine] question about authors

2011-06-20 Thread drew
Hi,

I reached out to a professional writer with a strong connection
to FOSS
and OO.o/Libo specifically, asking if he had an recommendations
on
possible writers.

I'm betting you can guess his first question.

To paraphrase - is it 100% or are we willing to compensate for
professional talent?

He also said that he could recommend folks that may do it gratis
but
that would be a much smaller pool of candidates.

So - the question is - what are the thoughts on using some
professional
talent?

Thanks

Drew

ps - I'll hold back on his name on the ML but certainly willing
to pass
it along via PM.



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[libreoffice-projects] QA weekend at Linux Hotel

2011-06-20 Thread drew
Hi,

Noting that the FrODev.org sponsored LibreOffice QA weekend just wrapped
if there are plans to share with the rest of us what was discussed. 

Yes I know it's only Monday, so I didn't expect anything at this point,
but I think it would be a good idea to set such a precedent for regional
gatherings such as this, that they do a quick debrief to the membership
overall.

Thanks and hope you guys had a great time,

Drew Jensen 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] QA weekend at Linux Hotel

2011-06-20 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 23:48 +0200, André Schnabel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 Am 20.06.2011 22:35, schrieb drew:
 
  Noting that the FrODev.org sponsored LibreOffice QA weekend just wrapped
  if there are plans to share with the rest of us what was discussed.
 
 
 Jacqueline is currently collecting the notes that several people made. 
 Rainer agreed to post the summary then to the english lists (around 
 Thursday or so I'd guess).

Excellent, and thank you. 

Dank,

Drew


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[libreoffice-projects] Nominating NA Community DVD - cover art

2011-04-11 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 07:47 -0700, C. Olofson wrote:
 On 04/11/2011 06:57 AM, drew wrote:
  So - is #8 and #8-wht good with you?
 
 Sharp-looking product (both #8  -wht).  Thanks Drew!
 
 I've come to this convo very late so please take these suggestions 
 accordingly.  Most have to do with what my failing eyes would like to 
 think of as legibility...
 
 - Change the suite-er font to match one of those (more legible) 
 already used
 - Is there a grey-scale version of this yet? (otherwise some people 
 /will/ just print bw)
 - Would it be a good idea to indicate the folding-lines?
 - Do we have anyone to scan this from a legal perspective?
 
 Very clean, very professional work.  I'd be happy to distribute  
 represent this.
 

Hi Craig,

Thanks and you aren't late at all, in fact I'd been looking at that (the
slogan font) and thinking along the same lines, that it needed changing.

So - one last (maybe) tweak(s):

- Reduced number of fonts 
-- Front and Back cover
- opened up the curve in scatter patter on front cover 
- lightned background w/ slight tint change 
- added more white space around logos 
- softened the shadows by 1/2 under module icons 
-- asking for a dispensation on the branding guidelines for this
- offset version designator

and looking at that it looked enough to merit the full print ready
version to the wiki. [ where it goes back to being a version of
alt-3.png ]
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lrge-cover-alt-3.png

I think it's a winner?

Thanks

Drew

Letting the other lists know also







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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Nominating NA Community DVD - cover art

2011-04-11 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 10:32 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:24 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 07:47 -0700, C. Olofson wrote:
   On 04/11/2011 06:57 AM, drew wrote:
So - is #8 and #8-wht good with you?
  
   Sharp-looking product (both #8  -wht).  Thanks Drew!
  
   I've come to this convo very late so please take these suggestions
   accordingly.  Most have to do with what my failing eyes would like to
   think of as legibility...
  
   - Change the suite-er font to match one of those (more legible)
   already used
   - Is there a grey-scale version of this yet? (otherwise some people
   /will/ just print bw)
   - Would it be a good idea to indicate the folding-lines?
   - Do we have anyone to scan this from a legal perspective?
  
   Very clean, very professional work.  I'd be happy to distribute 
   represent this.
  
 
  Hi Craig,
 
  Thanks and you aren't late at all, in fact I'd been looking at that (the
  slogan font) and thinking along the same lines, that it needed changing.
 
  So - one last (maybe) tweak(s):
 
  - Reduced number of fonts
  -- Front and Back cover
  - opened up the curve in scatter patter on front cover
  - lightned background w/ slight tint change
  - added more white space around logos
  - softened the shadows by 1/2 under module icons
 
 
 They did seem a bit thick. Nice touch to add them in the first place
 
 
  -- asking for a dispensation on the branding guidelines for this
 
 
 Why do we need this?
 
 
  - offset version designator
 
 
 You're correct, it doesn't need centering.
 
 
  and looking at that it looked enough to merit the full print ready
  version to the wiki. [ where it goes back to being a version of
  alt-3.png ]
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lrge-cover-alt-3.png
 
  I think it's a winner?
 
  Thanks
 
  Drew
 
  Letting the other lists know also
 
 
 
 I like it. Thank-you for making the other changes, btw (logos, text).
 
 Why aren't we using the slogan Freedom never tasted so suite? I'm reminded
 of this after watching Italo's presentation. The consistent font looks much
 cleaner.

LOL - you know ... 9a might be on the way...I don't why I bastardized
that slogan..

 
 Cheers,
 jec
 



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[libreoffice-projects] Work on the international 'box'

2011-03-22 Thread drew
Hi,

It was my understanding (although I can't say how I arrived at it, so
possibly just wrong) that the plan was to work on an international disc.

I took it to mean, that there would be a single iso image that had
multiple language GUI, a common set of extensions, and Language specific
templates again.

Specifically I'm trying to see how to best leverage the work that the NA
DVD team has done, and some additional items perhaps, to help with that.

I noted that you called for help with the English translation of the
German disc and I take it that was for this international version.

After downloading the latest LibreOfficeBox iso, a few days ago, and
comparing it in detail with what we have in English already it appears
that there is indeed much that can be put forward.

What is the best way to help you with this particular project?

Thanks

Drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] libreofficebox teams and subsites

2011-03-20 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 21:51 +0100, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi Webmaster for Lungstrom.com, *,
 
 Webmaster for Lungstrom.com schrieb:
  On 03/18/2011 12:51 PM, Erich Christian wrote:
  Am 18.03.2011 14:42, schrieb Webmaster for Lungstrom.com:
  Am 17.03.2011 22:39, schrieb Erich Christian:
 
 [..]
 
  [quote]
  We have finished the first step of our move and are up to prepare
  Silverstripe and the iso generating scripts on libreofficebox.org
  for multilingual use
  [unquote]
 
  What does this mean?  It seems to read that there will be a script
  that will generate an ISO file on demand for the visitor.
 
 No. This enables authoring Your DVD in Silverstripe and have the
 contents extracted to static html after that, which is required for
 building the ISO.
 

Howdy,

First - the work on the SilverStripe tooling is very much appreciated.

For myself, I would really like to see us, the folks that have
contributed so far to this NA DVD project, make use of the
infrastructure going forward. There are many benefits to doing so, in my
opinion.

My concern has been with the current state of the assembled files. By
which I mean that we have been going over all the files assembled with
an eye to licenses and fitness for redistribution. ( Jeff C. has put a
lot of effort into this due diligence step) In doing so a number of
problem files were flagged and removed. Currently there is a large
number of templates that are being reviewed, it's only a matter of days
before this is finished. Until that is finished I would not be
comfortable pushing these files up to the community server. That is my
primary concern, giving any pause, at th moment.

At that point I'd like to see us generate an ISO that would be viewed as
a beta for the disc image, for people to review. That also would be, in
my opinion, a good spot to actually start the work of moving over to the
community based server.

@Tim, I could not explain the details of the custom build scripts of
course, but the general use of a Content Management System (CMS) for
building the disc image contents is something I do understand, if your
interested I'd be happy to talk to you about that on a phone call. If we
could get all of us on the NA team on a call that would be great -
perhaps there is some help we could get on that.

A good spot to stop for one email I think.

Best wishes,

Drew


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