Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. Ronald smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
Ronald: Is there a way we can assist ? On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.comwrote: On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. Ronald ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
On 22 Jun, 2010, at 11:30, Shashwat Anand wrote: Ronald: Is there a way we can assist ? Sure: look for mac related bugs on the tracker help in making that list smaller. I look for mac related bugs in 3 ways: 1) All issues assigned to the Macintosh component 2) All issues assigned to me (which has significant overlap with the first list) 3) All issues where 'OSX' is mentioned (this contains a lot of false positives) I'm slowly working my way to the list, but it is not empty yet. There are currently 38 issues for the Macintosh component, down from over 50 less than a year ago. I expect to close at least 3 more soon. I'd really appriate if someone could look into all Tk related issues. I'm not a Tk user myself, which means that these issues take a lot of time for me and I don't have a strong incentive to work on them (beyond making sure that IDLE keeps working) Ronald On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. Ronald ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
Tk is a foreign domain for me :( Beside I do participate in roundup, will increase the frequency after I get over with GSoC. I thought may be I can be of help regarding buildbots ( you mentioned something similar in issue 9048) On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.comwrote: On 22 Jun, 2010, at 11:30, Shashwat Anand wrote: Ronald: Is there a way we can assist ? Sure: look for mac related bugs on the tracker help in making that list smaller. I look for mac related bugs in 3 ways: 1) All issues assigned to the Macintosh component 2) All issues assigned to me (which has significant overlap with the first list) 3) All issues where 'OSX' is mentioned (this contains a lot of false positives) I'm slowly working my way to the list, but it is not empty yet. There are currently 38 issues for the Macintosh component, down from over 50 less than a year ago. I expect to close at least 3 more soon. I'd really appriate if someone could look into all Tk related issues. I'm not a Tk user myself, which means that these issues take a lot of time for me and I don't have a strong incentive to work on them (beyond making sure that IDLE keeps working) Ronald On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. Ronald ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
On 22 Jun, 2010, at 13:34, Shashwat Anand wrote: Tk is a foreign domain for me :( Beside I do participate in roundup, will increase the frequency after I get over with GSoC. I thought may be I can be of help regarding buildbots ( you mentioned something similar in issue 9048) I don't think you can do anything about the buildbots, they seem to be running although somewhat slowly. The major problem with the buildbots for OSX is that it seems that for the most part OSX specific issues linger until I get around fixing them. That's not completely fair, Ned also does some bugfixing when he has time, but it is worrysome that such a major platform gets so little attention from developers (both the core developers and the rest of the community). Ronald On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 22 Jun, 2010, at 11:30, Shashwat Anand wrote: Ronald: Is there a way we can assist ? Sure: look for mac related bugs on the tracker help in making that list smaller. I look for mac related bugs in 3 ways: 1) All issues assigned to the Macintosh component 2) All issues assigned to me (which has significant overlap with the first list) 3) All issues where 'OSX' is mentioned (this contains a lot of false positives) I'm slowly working my way to the list, but it is not empty yet. There are currently 38 issues for the Macintosh component, down from over 50 less than a year ago. I expect to close at least 3 more soon. I'd really appriate if someone could look into all Tk related issues. I'm not a Tk user myself, which means that these issues take a lot of time for me and I don't have a strong incentive to work on them (beyond making sure that IDLE keeps working) Ronald On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. Ronald ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. I guess Dave Bolen and I have taken the first step: set up some OS X buildbots. I'd be happy to maintain an Intel buildbot in the PARC server room if we can scrape up a donation of such a machine. Doesn't have to be new... The next step is to turn those buildbots green. After they're green, we can propose them for addition to the stable set. So, something the Mac SIG could do to help is to take a look at the buildbot output, and figure out why they're red, and not green. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote: Tk is a foreign domain for me :( Beside I do participate in roundup, will increase the frequency after I get over with GSoC. I thought may be I can be of help regarding buildbots ( you mentioned something similar in issue 9048) We could use faster modern Mac buildbots. Right now, there are no Intel buildbots running Leopard or Snow Leopard. I'm running a couple of old slow PPC machines as buildbots. It doesn't take much to set up a buildbot. Install XCode, install the buildbot software, talk to Martin v. Loewis to get a buildbot account, and just let it run. You have to look at it periodically to see if there are stuck tests etc. that have to be manually cleared. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
On 22 Jun, 2010, at 18:19, Bill Janssen wrote: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 21 Jun, 2010, at 21:17, Bill Janssen wrote: I just noticed that the list of stable Python buildbots don't include any OS X buildbots. From the web page, the definition of stable is this: ``The stable versions are the primary platforms that should always have all tests passing.'' Don't we want OS X in that set of platforms? Yes, but as you know we didn't even have OSX buildbots until recently. BTW. I have no idea how a buildbot can be added to the stable set. I guess Dave Bolen and I have taken the first step: set up some OS X buildbots. I'd be happy to maintain an Intel buildbot in the PARC server room if we can scrape up a donation of such a machine. Doesn't have to be new... I have an intel mac mini that could be used for an intel buildbot, but haven't had time yet to turn that into a buildbot that tests sometime I actually care about: a universal framework build. Ronald smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
I have Intel machine (2.53 GhZ, 4gb Ram) with Snow Leopard running on it and the system is 'ON' 24x7 with an average uptime of 1 month. I guess I can use mine to run the buildbots. On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote: Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote: Tk is a foreign domain for me :( Beside I do participate in roundup, will increase the frequency after I get over with GSoC. I thought may be I can be of help regarding buildbots ( you mentioned something similar in issue 9048) We could use faster modern Mac buildbots. Right now, there are no Intel buildbots running Leopard or Snow Leopard. I'm running a couple of old slow PPC machines as buildbots. It doesn't take much to set up a buildbot. Install XCode, install the buildbot software, talk to Martin v. Loewis to get a buildbot account, and just let it run. You have to look at it periodically to see if there are stuck tests etc. that have to be manually cleared. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] get an OS X buildbot into the stable set
Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote: I have Intel machine (2.53 GhZ, 4gb Ram) with Snow Leopard running on it and the system is 'ON' 24x7 with an average uptime of 1 month. I guess I can use mine to run the buildbots. That sounds great! Just install the buildbot software (see http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot Installing a build slave for instructions), then send a note to Martin for a buildbot name. You can use the system Twisted and system Python to run buildbot. You have to look at the buildbot machine every week or so to see if there are hanging tests you might want to kill manually. I'm not sure why the regression testing software doesn't time out after a day or so, but it doesn't. Use ps auxww | grep regrtest to identify tests. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
