Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Billy

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Billy 
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I retired from work two weeks ago so I hope to rekindle my interest - 
so far I have not had time ( I'm still a few weeks off full recovery 
from mitral valve replacement)
If Roy reads this then I should explain that due to my retirement and 
not having full knowledge of what value my pensions will be ( thankyou 
bankers ) I did not renew my subscription to QLWorld, but hopefully 
when the dust settles funds will allow me to resubscribe.


All the best - Bill


Hi Bill,

I hope that you do get fit again.  And that you enjoy your retirement.

Your pensions should hold up, as it is the beginning of a recession ... 
future pensions may suffer more.


You have always made a good contribution to this List.

Where would the nearest User Group meeting be for you now ?



Thanks for the thoughts Malcolm I'm fit enough and my local health care 
group are pretty good, in fact most of my time seems to be taken up 
seeing people who want to keep me healthy.
The nearest group would be the group that meet around Edinburgh 
somewhere ( is it Thornhill or Livingstone?) not much further than I 
used to go to Newcastle I think.
I've often thought about going up there but never really had the time to 
 go, now I'm retired I might make it.


All the best - Bill

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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones

I retired from work two weeks ago so I hope to rekindle my interest - so
far I have not had time ( I'm still a few weeks off full recovery from
mitral valve replacement)

Best wishes for a swift recovery. Nice to hear you hope to be more active
now!


If Roy reads this then I should explain that due to my retirement and not
having full knowledge of what value my pensions will be ( thankyou
bankers ) I did not renew my subscription to QLWorld, but hopefully when
the dust settles funds will allow me to resubscribe.

I presume you meant QL Today - QL World is QL Yesterday now... to paraphrase
George Gwilt's recent comment ;-)

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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Geoff Wicks


- Original Message - 
From: Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half


 The North East Group died out a few years ago, I still read this list and 
fire up QPC now and then.


I retired from work two weeks ago so I hope to rekindle my interest - so 
far I have not had time ( I'm still a few weeks off full recovery from 
mitral valve replacement)
If Roy reads this then I should explain that due to my retirement and not 
having full knowledge of what value my pensions will be ( thankyou 
bankers ) I did not renew my subscription to QLWorld, but hopefully when 
the dust settles funds will allow me to resubscribe.




Thanks for the message. I know the problem of pensions as I had all that 
last year. I hate to make all you UK wrinklies jealous but half my income 
now comes from the Netherlands.


My 62% UK state pension is £60.73 p.w. plus a single heating allowance of 
£250 each year.
My 40% Dutch state pension is (at the latest exchange rate) £72.32 p.w. plus 
an extra single payment of £300 holiday money each May.


If you have the time or an opinion, I'd like a little help. I suspect there 
are many Quanta members in your situation although in your case there is an 
additional problem that you live in a distant part of the country. How could 
Quanta best serve members like you?


Best Wishes,

Geoff


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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Billy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes



Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Billy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes




I retired from work two weeks ago so I hope to rekindle my interest 
so far I have not had time ( I'm still a few weeks off full recovery 
from mitral valve replacement)
If Roy reads this then I should explain that due to my retirement 
and not having full knowledge of what value my pensions will be ( 
thankyou bankers ) I did not renew my subscription to QLWorld, but 
hopefully when the dust settles funds will allow me to resubscribe.


All the best - Bill

 Hi Bill,
 I hope that you do get fit again.  And that you enjoy your 
retirement.
 Your pensions should hold up, as it is the beginning of a recession 
... future pensions may suffer more.

 You have always made a good contribution to this List.
 Where would the nearest User Group meeting be for you now ?



Thanks for the thoughts Malcolm I'm fit enough and my local health care 
group are pretty good, in fact most of my time seems to be taken up 
seeing people who want to keep me healthy.
The nearest group would be the group that meet around Edinburgh 
somewhere ( is it Thornhill or Livingstone?) not much further than I 
used to go to Newcastle I think.
I've often thought about going up there but never really had the time 
to go, now I'm retired I might make it.


All the best - Bill


Hi Bill,

That all seems very positive.

I know what you mean about Health, as I have not been well myself 
recently; and I have undergone an operation from which I am now 
recovering.


I do hope you are be able to get to a User Group convenient to where you 
live, even if it not that regular.


When we meet in the London Group, we seem to discuss Life, the Universe 
and Everything . :-) ... which is all a part of the benefit of face 
to face Meetings.  Also having a common interest.



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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones


When we meet in the London Group, we seem to discuss Life, the Universe 
and Everything . :-) ... which is all a part of the benefit of face 
to face Meetings.  Also having a common interest.

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I hope that the QLs get a word in edgeways from time to time ;-)

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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread George Gwilt


On 24 Oct 2008, at 09:50, Billy wrote:

The nearest group would be the group that meet around Edinburgh  
somewhere ( is it Thornhill or Livingstone?) not much further than  
I used to go to Newcastle I think.


The Scottish Group used to meet in Stirling, then moved to Port of  
Menteih and later Thornhill. all these were within reasonable  
distance of both Edinburgh and Glasgow. Now we meet in Edinburgh at  
my house. So far the numbers are small enough for that.


The meetings are normally on the second sunday of each month.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones 
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I retired from work two weeks ago so I hope to rekindle my interest - so
far I have not had time ( I'm still a few weeks off full recovery from
mitral valve replacement)

Best wishes for a swift recovery. Nice to hear you hope to be more active
now!


If Roy reads this then I should explain that due to my retirement and not
having full knowledge of what value my pensions will be ( thankyou
bankers ) I did not renew my subscription to QLWorld, but hopefully when
the dust settles funds will allow me to resubscribe.

I presume you meant QL Today - QL World is QL Yesterday now... to paraphrase
George Gwilt's recent comment ;-)


Too true ... I had forgotten myself about the QL World magazine - 
although I have all my own copies stored away.


May be now, the QL World, is here in hyper space . :-) ... ?


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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoff 
Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes



- Original Message - From: Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half


 The North East Group died out a few years ago, I still read this 
list and fire up QPC now and then.


I retired from work two weeks ago so I hope to rekindle my interest - 
so far I have not had time ( I'm still a few weeks off full recovery 
from  mitral valve replacement)
If Roy reads this then I should explain that due to my retirement and 
not  having full knowledge of what value my pensions will be ( 
thankyou bankers ) I did not renew my subscription to QLWorld, but 
hopefully when  the dust settles funds will allow me to resubscribe.




Thanks for the message. I know the problem of pensions as I had all 
that last year. I hate to make all you UK wrinklies jealous but half my 
income now comes from the Netherlands.


My 62% UK state pension is £60.73 p.w. plus a single heating allowance 
of £250 each year.
My 40% Dutch state pension is (at the latest exchange rate) £72.32 p.w. 
plus an extra single payment of £300 holiday money each May.


If you have the time or an opinion, I'd like a little help. I suspect 
there are many Quanta members in your situation although in your case 
there is an additional problem that you live in a distant part of the 
country. How could Quanta best serve members like you?


Best Wishes,

Geoff


Hi Geoff,

Interesting what you are receiving in pension.

The Basic State Pension is around £87 per week, for a single person, in 
the UK.


Yet few people actually receive this, because it is Contributory through 
the Stamp - National Insurance Contribution ( NIC) - the latter being 
very appropriately named as an acronym .. :-) ... as is money that the 
Government nicks off you every week from your wage packet.


However, the Government has recognised that the current level, for a 
single person, should be around £124 per week - to live on.  So, what 
they have done is to make it up to this amount via the Tax Credit 
system.


This system is beloved of Gordon Brown, yet it highly complex to 
administer and to understand; and very few people do.  Even those who 
run it the Governments behalf.


There has been a strong voice to just re-organise the Tax System in the 
UK to a much more simple basis - as yet, this has been resisted by the 
current Government.


Thus, in your case, you would have to apply for the Tax Credit to make 
up your State Pension to the full amount of around £124 per week.  It is 
not automatic, and the Form is a nightmare to complete; and many 
people find it intrusive.  Because it is like a Means Test.


Therefore millions of Pounds are not claimed back through the Tax 
Credit, by Pensioners, and the Government just pockets the money, and 
uses it for its own purposes.


Another factor is that if you have personal savings above £6K ( not much 
these days ... ), your Tax Credit gets reduced on a scale.  Also, 
whether you own your own Home, etc.


In your case, again, your other Pension just takes you above the Tax 
Credit compensation amount; so you cannot apply anyway ... :-(


I don't know of Bill's circumstances, yet it worth claiming the Tax 
Credit Top up if you fall below the £124 per week - despite the 
hassle.


A friend of mine, who has just taken his own State Pension, has worked 
all of this out; and helped others to understand the complexity. 
Resulting in another person claiming back the Tax Credit that should 
have been due to her over a number of Years - resulting in a Lump Sum 
rebate.



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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

2008-10-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones 
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When we meet in the London Group, we seem to discuss Life, the 
Universe  and Everything . :-) ... which is all a part of the 
benefit of face  to face Meetings.  Also having a common interest.

--  Malcolm Cadman

I hope that the QLs get a word in edgeways from time to time ;-)


Erm ... what are they ...:-) . ?

Although, more often now it a QL Emulator .

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