Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 134, Issue 16

2015-05-12 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Thank you, I will pass on the information.
Dilwyn

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From: Urs Koenig (QL)

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 134, Issue 16

Dilwyn wrote:

I was asked by someone to put the QDT from the xcl directory into a
QXL.WIN for them and found that the filenames of the manual files are too
long to put into a sub-directory in the qxl.win

Easily renamed, but as I am unfamiliar with QDT I don't know if it

accesses

these text files (i.e. by renaming them would I cause problems?)

I had a similar request yesterday. Here's what I suggested:

A fresh install into an empty WIN file doesn't make much sense, as then QDT
finds no apps and all folders are empty. QDT is almost useless then.

There's already a preconfigured WIN file with a full installation of QDT on
The Distribution. Especially for novices (and all other people) there's
the QL/E environment in the folder \THE_DISTRIBUTION\qle\. It holds a fresh
(April 2015) WIN file with many apps and a fresh (April 2015) full
installation of QDT. That's exactly what's been asked for, isn't it? Just
start the QPC2.exe in that folder and your fresh QDT is running.

If you want to install QDT on your existing WIN file, you'll find the
installation package (QDTINST110r_zip) in folder
\THE_DISTRIBUTION\xcl\qdt\Redist\. Just follow the instructions in the
README.txt file of the folder \THE_DISTRIBUTION\xcl\qdt\. I did several
fresh installations with that installation sequence.

Full QDT documentation can be found in the folders
\THE_DISTRIBUTION\xcl\qdt\Documentation\ (as Text files) and
\THE_DISTRIBUTION\qle\Documentation\ (as PDF files) plus the whole
documentation package (PDF and Text files) as a ZIP file in
\THE_DISTRIBUTION\xcl\qdt\Redist\QDT Release 1.10 User Documentation.zip.
There's no need to install the documentation inside a WIN file.

BTW: For experts there a config option in QL/E which can be invoked by the
command QLE_CFG to fine-tune this environment (e.g. enable or disable
certain desktops). I will release a quick guide for that sometime to help
novices.

Urs

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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Dilwyn, Derek:

There’s no mentioning of an IOF.TEST anywhere in the SMSQ/E 3.21 sources.

Tobias

 Am 12.05.2015 um 21:10 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de:
 
 Hi Dilwyn,
 
 I have not looked at my paper copy of the manual, just used the PDF version.
 
 According to the PDF version:
 
 IOF.POSA D0=$42
 IOF.POSR D0=$43
 
 as you stated, there is no entry for D0=$44
 
 I have a look at my hard copy version of SMS Technical Manual. There is no 
 mention of a IOF.TEST, even though the same page in Section 5.3 refers to 
 IOF.TEST
 
 I looked in the older QDOS Technical Manual, nothing like IOF.TEST
 
 This is looking like a major fault in the documentation, I suppose the best 
 way to resolve this is to look at the SMSQ/E Sources and determine what the 
 missing Trap call should be.
 
 Unless anybody knows what IOF.TEST is defined as I will find out and issue an 
 update.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Derek
 
 On 12/05/15 17:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 In my printed copy of Jochen's QDOS/SMS Reference Guide, iof.posa and
 iof.posr also have the same key (d0=$42, whereas iof.posr should be $43
 
 All the other $4x trap #3s are defined leaving only $44, which must be
 iof.test
 
 Dilwyn
 
 -Original Message- From: Rich Mellor
 Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:56 PM
 To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook
 
 That is great - any contributions to correct errors in the text are of
 course welcome, so that they can be incorporated into the free online
 version of the manual!
 
 
 On 12/05/2015 16:32, Derek Stewart wrote:
 I have been converting the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual PDF manual to
 work on my Kindle, using Sigil to convert the screen copied text to
 epub - mobi. This for my reference.
 
 I have nearly finished and corrected some obvious mistakes.
 
 However, there is a little problem in the manual:
 
 Section 5.2 File I/O, Page 3, Last Paragraph:
 
 quote
 
 The IOF.FLSH and IOF.TEST commands are subtly different: IOF.FLSH
 ensures that all write operations are complete, whereas IOF.TEST
 ensures that all write and read operations (including
 prefetches) are complete.
 
 /quote
 
 I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST
 
 Should this be IOB.TEST ?
 
 Regards,
 
 Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Rich Mellor (RWAP)
I thought there was already an online version - or is it just pdf?

 On May 12, 2015 at 8:09 PM Derek Stewart de...@q40.de wrote:


 Hi Rich,

 I am using Sigil to edit the epub file, which formats each page pr
 section into a series of HTML files and uses ZIP compression to produce
 the final epub file.

 Which is how I produced the SBASIC Reference Manual Ebook, I dumped the
 HTML web pages into Sigil and after a little reformatting produced a
 nice ebook for my Kindle.

 Sigil can merge all the HTML pages into a single HTML file.

 So I suppose a web version is possible, on the assumption the detail can
 be corrected.

 Regards,

 Derek

 On 12/05/15 16:56, Rich Mellor wrote:
  That is great - any contributions to correct errors in the text are of
  course welcome, so that they can be incorporated into the free online
  version of the manual!
 
 
  On 12/05/2015 16:32, Derek Stewart wrote:
  I have been converting the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual PDF manual to
  work on my Kindle, using Sigil to convert the screen copied text to
  epub - mobi. This for my reference.
 
  I have nearly finished and corrected some obvious mistakes.
 
  However, there is a little problem in the manual:
 
  Section 5.2 File I/O, Page 3, Last Paragraph:
 
  quote
 
  The IOF.FLSH and IOF.TEST commands are subtly different: IOF.FLSH
  ensures that all write operations are complete, whereas IOF.TEST
  ensures that all write and read operations (including
  prefetches) are complete.
 
  /quote
 
  I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST
 
  Should this be IOB.TEST ?
 
  Regards,
 
  Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Marcel Kilgus
derek wrote:
 Hi,

 I just looked in the SMSQ/E sources and can not fond IOF.TEST.

 Is the statement in Section 5.3 correct?

 If not how should read.

As I wrote I'm pretty sure they meant to write IOF.CHEK

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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread pjwitte

Derek,


I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST

Should this be IOB.TEST ?


I think youre right! No reference to IOF.TEST in the Smsq sources, 
only IOB.TEST.


Dilwyn,


In my printed copy of Jochen's QDOS/SMS Reference Guide,
iof.posa and iof.posr also have the same key (d0=$42,
whereas iof.posr should be $43


Youre right about iof.posr, but this has already been corrected in 
later additions.



All the other $4x trap #3s are defined leaving only $44,
which must be iof.test


I dont think youre right about this. Trap#3, code $44 is set to 
iof.posv (set position to virtual address). See the keys_qdos_io 
include file in the sources.


Per

On 12/05/2015 17:32, Derek Stewart wrote:

I have been converting the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual PDF manual to
work on my Kindle, using Sigil to convert the screen copied text to
epub - mobi. This for my reference.

I have nearly finished and corrected some obvious mistakes.

However, there is a little problem in the manual:

Section 5.2 File I/O, Page 3, Last Paragraph:

quote

The IOF.FLSH and IOF.TEST commands are subtly different: IOF.FLSH
ensures that all write operations are complete, whereas IOF.TEST
ensures that all write and read operations (including
prefetches) are complete.

/quote

I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST

Should this be IOB.TEST ?

Regards,

Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Derek Stewart wrote:
 I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST

 Should this be IOB.TEST ?

No, doesn't make sense. I guess they meant IOF.CHEK.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Derek Stewart

Hi Rich,

I am using Sigil to edit the epub file, which formats each page pr 
section into a series of HTML files and uses ZIP compression to produce 
the final epub file.


Which is how I produced the SBASIC Reference Manual Ebook, I dumped the 
HTML web pages into Sigil and after a little reformatting produced a 
nice ebook for my Kindle.


Sigil can merge all the HTML pages into a single HTML file.

So I suppose a web version is possible, on the assumption the detail can 
be corrected.


Regards,

Derek

On 12/05/15 16:56, Rich Mellor wrote:

That is great - any contributions to correct errors in the text are of
course welcome, so that they can be incorporated into the free online
version of the manual!


On 12/05/2015 16:32, Derek Stewart wrote:

I have been converting the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual PDF manual to
work on my Kindle, using Sigil to convert the screen copied text to
epub - mobi. This for my reference.

I have nearly finished and corrected some obvious mistakes.

However, there is a little problem in the manual:

Section 5.2 File I/O, Page 3, Last Paragraph:

quote

The IOF.FLSH and IOF.TEST commands are subtly different: IOF.FLSH
ensures that all write operations are complete, whereas IOF.TEST
ensures that all write and read operations (including
prefetches) are complete.

/quote

I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST

Should this be IOB.TEST ?

Regards,

Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread derek
Hi,

I just looked in the SMSQ/E sources and can not fond IOF.TEST.

Is the statement in Section 5.3 correct?

If not how should read.

Regards,

Derek

 Original message 
From Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net 
Date: 12/05/2015  20:26  (GMT+00:00) 
To ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Subject Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook 
 
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 In my printed copy of Jochen's QDOS/SMS Reference Guide, iof.posa and 
 iof.posr also have the same key (d0=$42, whereas iof.posr should be $43

 All the other $4x trap #3s are defined leaving only $44, which must be
 iof.test

Actually $44 is defined as iof.posv in the sources, but I'd venture a
guess that no driver on earth ever implemented it.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Dilwyn Jones
In my printed copy of Jochen's QDOS/SMS Reference Guide, iof.posa and 
iof.posr also have the same key (d0=$42, whereas iof.posr should be $43


All the other $4x trap #3s are defined leaving only $44, which must be 
iof.test


Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: Rich Mellor

Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:56 PM
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

That is great - any contributions to correct errors in the text are of
course welcome, so that they can be incorporated into the free online
version of the manual!


On 12/05/2015 16:32, Derek Stewart wrote:
I have been converting the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual PDF manual to work on 
my Kindle, using Sigil to convert the screen copied text to epub - mobi. 
This for my reference.


I have nearly finished and corrected some obvious mistakes.

However, there is a little problem in the manual:

Section 5.2 File I/O, Page 3, Last Paragraph:

quote

The IOF.FLSH and IOF.TEST commands are subtly different: IOF.FLSH ensures 
that all write operations are complete, whereas IOF.TEST ensures that all 
write and read operations (including

prefetches) are complete.

/quote

I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST

Should this be IOB.TEST ?

Regards,

Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QDOS / SMS,Reference Manual ebook

2015-05-12 Thread Derek Stewart
I have been converting the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual PDF manual to work 
on my Kindle, using Sigil to convert the screen copied text to epub - 
mobi. This for my reference.


I have nearly finished and corrected some obvious mistakes.

However, there is a little problem in the manual:

Section 5.2 File I/O, Page 3, Last Paragraph:

quote

The IOF.FLSH and IOF.TEST commands are subtly different: IOF.FLSH 
ensures that all write operations are complete, whereas IOF.TEST ensures 
that all write and read operations (including

prefetches) are complete.

/quote

I can not find any reference to IOF.TEST

Should this be IOB.TEST ?

Regards,

Derek
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