Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB Driver running under Q-emuLator

2011-02-28 Thread Adrian Ives
Tony,

If you're talking about the drivers built into the USBWiz, there's USB
printer support and HID for mice and keyboards. However, nobody should get
excited about that because the USB printer support appears to be raw data
only so it would need a driver written.  Keyboard and mouse might be
possible, but I've already covered the problems of running them across the
same serial connection as used for the storage devices.

Beyond that, it would be possible to talk to just about anything USB ...
with a driver.

The Ser-USB driver currently supports SD Cards and USB Mass Storage devices;
both accessed in native QDOS mode.


Adrian

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On 27 Feb 2011, at 23:49, Adrian Ives adr...@acanthis.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 I was asked this question recently and have only just got around to 
 testing it.  Yes, it does work!
 
 
 
 Tested this evening under Q-emuLator 3.0.2 with a JS ROM image on 
 Windows 7
 64 bit with a USB to Serial adapter connecting to the Ser-USB unit.
 
 

That is really good news. What inbuilt drivers are there of any use?  

I forget the details but  on first reading the specs anything really useful
via USB will need QL drivers.

Looks like you are making real progress.

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB Driver running under Q-emuLator

2011-02-28 Thread Tony Firshman

Adrian Ives wrote, on 28/Feb/11 11:33 | Feb28:

Tony,

If you're talking about the drivers built into the USBWiz, there's USB
printer support and HID for mice and keyboards. However, nobody should get
excited about that because the USB printer support appears to be raw data
only so it would need a driver written.  Keyboard and mouse might be
possible, but I've already covered the problems of running them across the
same serial connection as used for the storage devices.

Yes exactly as I remembered - printer support is next to useless.


Beyond that, it would be possible to talk to just about anything USB ...
with a driver.

The Ser-USB driver currently supports SD Cards and USB Mass Storage devices;
both accessed in native QDOS mode.


Those were the two that immediately looked practical.
I thought it  supported only FAT 8.3?  How do you work around that?

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB Driver running under Q-emuLator

2011-02-28 Thread Adrian Ives
Tony,

I don't use the file system access functions, only direct sector access. The
SD card or USB hard drive really is formatted as a QLW1 volume.

otoh The File Manager (which is a standalone program independent of the
driver) does use the file system access functions to let users move files
between PCs and QLs using FAT16 format media.  This obviously means that QL
filenames are truncated to 8.3, but their headers are preserved.

Adrian

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Adrian Ives wrote, on 28/Feb/11 11:33 | Feb28:
 Tony,

 If you're talking about the drivers built into the USBWiz, there's 
 USB printer support and HID for mice and keyboards SNIP

 The Ser-USB driver currently supports SD Cards and USB Mass Storage 
 devices; both accessed in native QDOS mode.

Those were the two that immediately looked practical.
I thought it  supported only FAT 8.3?  How do you work around that?

Tony


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[Ql-Users] Ser-USB Driver running under Q-emuLator

2011-02-27 Thread Adrian Ives
 

I was asked this question recently and have only just got around to testing
it.  Yes, it does work!

 

Tested this evening under Q-emuLator 3.0.2 with a JS ROM image on Windows 7
64 bit with a USB to Serial adapter connecting to the Ser-USB unit.

 

 

Adrian

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB Driver running under Q-emuLator

2011-02-27 Thread Tony Firshman


On 27 Feb 2011, at 23:49, Adrian Ives adr...@acanthis.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 I was asked this question recently and have only just got around to testing
 it.  Yes, it does work!
 
 
 
 Tested this evening under Q-emuLator 3.0.2 with a JS ROM image on Windows 7
 64 bit with a USB to Serial adapter connecting to the Ser-USB unit.
 
 

That is really good news. What inbuilt drivers are there of any use?  

I forget the details but  on first reading the specs anything really useful via 
USB will need QL drivers.

Looks like you are making real progress.

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB Driver running under Q-emuLator

2011-02-27 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I was asked this question recently and have only just got around to 
testing

it.  Yes, it does work!



Tested this evening under Q-emuLator 3.0.2 with a JS ROM image on 
Windows 7

64 bit with a USB to Serial adapter connecting to the Ser-USB unit.




That is really good news. What inbuilt drivers are there of any use?

I forget the details but  on first reading the specs anything really 
useful via USB will need QL drivers.


Looks like you are making real progress.

Tony
Would be great if Adrian could document any notes about how to go 
about writing drivers which have to work with Ser-USB. If nothing 
else, would save people reinventing the wheel or going through the 
same agonies that Adrian did with this device.


Dilwyn Jones 




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