Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Morning Tony, Well the A6 road is not a means of transport, so surely he meant the Audi in the first place (8-)# Sigh! My feeble attempt at humour goes wrong! :-( George said that the A6 could bring to mind a *superior* means of transport. I attempted a joke in reply that if it wasn't a *superior* mode of transport, it could be an Audi! Meaning, in essence, that the Audi (that George hinted at) isn't superior. Cheers, Norm. [ExComedian] -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Marcel Kilgus wrote: Well the A6 road is not a means of transport, so surely he meant the Audi in the first place (8-)# Actually the A6 Autobahn runs from Saarbrücken to the eastern border of Germany. But yeah, I figured he meant the A6 in the first place ;) Argh, misread the means of transport thing, which could perhaps be argued but I think you're 100% right. I better shut up now. :-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
John Hitchcock wrote: Dilwyn said (15th October) :- Could someone (or you, even, John) put together a list of words which cause difficulty and I could try to put something together as an article sometime? - I said:- I'm on to it! Will report back. Reporting Back I've waited to see if there are any further contributions to this (renamed) thread. Just Norman. Thanks Norman. To my mind, potential 'rej-oiners' to the QL World need a catch-up-cache [cuc].Lurkers and others would also benefit. I know, I'm one of them! I've made a start on this by sending John in Wales (John Hitchcock) my Glossary_txt file with a request for him to add any other terms and between us we'll try to fill the gaps. Meanwhile, if anyone has suggestions of QL terminology to add to the list to let John know so he can add the terms to the list for me to write up when it's in a ready state. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
On 18 Nov 2010, at 11:01, Dilwyn Jones wrote: John Hitchcock wrote: Dilwyn said (15th October) :- Could someone (or you, even, John) put together a list of words which cause difficulty and I could try to put something together as an article sometime? - I said:- I'm on to it! Will report back. Reporting Back I've waited to see if there are any further contributions to this (renamed) thread. Just Norman. Thanks Norman. To my mind, potential 'rej-oiners' to the QL World need a catch-up-cache [cuc].Lurkers and others would also benefit. I know, I'm one of them! I've made a start on this by sending John in Wales (John Hitchcock) my Glossary_txt file with a request for him to add any other terms and between us we'll try to fill the gaps. Meanwhile, if anyone has suggestions of QL terminology to add to the list to let John know so he can add the terms to the list for me to write up when it's in a ready state. The Glossary looks good as it is. But might it be useful to include the names of the more commonly used programs, such as QD and TURBO? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 18 Nov 2010, at 11:01, Dilwyn Jones wrote: John Hitchcock wrote: Dilwyn said (15th October) :- Could someone (or you, even, John) put together a list of words which cause difficulty and I could try to put something together as an article sometime? - I said:- I'm on to it! Will report back. Reporting Back I've waited to see if there are any further contributions to this (renamed) thread. Just Norman. Thanks Norman. To my mind, potential 'rej-oiners' to the QL World need a catch-up-cache [cuc].Lurkers and others would also benefit. I know, I'm one of them! I've made a start on this by sending John in Wales (John Hitchcock) my Glossary_txt file with a request for him to add any other terms and between us we'll try to fill the gaps. Meanwhile, if anyone has suggestions of QL terminology to add to the list to let John know so he can add the terms to the list for me to write up when it's in a ready state. The Glossary looks good as it is. But might it be useful to include the names of the more commonly used programs, such as QD and TURBO? George I did suggest to John that he has a look at Rich Mellor's QL Wiki to see if there are terms on there we could add (both hardware and software). Certainly, mentioning these commonly used major programs would be useful both for beginners and people returning to the QL after years away from the QL scene. I'm a little wary of producing a glossary just by myself because I write about QL matters all the time, so it would be very helpful if less experienced QLers gave their input on the sorts of terms to include. In time, I'm sure Geoff and Jochen would willingly republish the expanded glossary in QL Today when it's had a good update (the glossary, not QL Today). In time, I'd like to build a beginners section (needs a bettername as it would be for returners too) on my website with articles like this and some of the more commonly asked questions (such as how to transfer files between QL and other computers, unzipping etc etc). There are such articles on there already, but a bit scattered and not easy enough to find. Another thing I want to do is get the existing Helpline articles from Quanta mag together onto a suitable page for members on the Quanta website, although the Quanta CMS, last I heard, was being updated with a few minor issues (don't know the details) preventing us updating the news pages, for example. Now, madam Chairman, have I mentioned the word Quanta often enough in public here to earn a nice cup of tea at the next committee meeting??? Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 18/Nov/10 11:27 | Nov18: snip In time, I'd like to build a beginners section (needs a bettername as it would be for returners too) on my website with articles like this and some of the more commonly asked questions (such as how to transfer files between QL and other computers, unzipping etc etc). There are such articles on there already, but a bit scattered and not easy enough to find. Basics? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 18/Nov/10 11:27 | Nov18: snip In time, I'd like to build a beginners section (needs a bettername as it would be for returners too) on my website with articles like this and some of the more commonly asked questions (such as how to transfer files between QL and other computers, unzipping etc etc). There are such articles on there already, but a bit scattered and not easy enough to find. Basics? Tony Good idea! Covers all bases - beginners, less experienced users and returners. Thanks, Tony. Any more suggestions, anyone? And what sort of topics might such a section include - at the moment I'm thinking in terms of : File transfer Zip/Unzip expanding a basic QL contact points (e.g. Quanta, Rich Mellor, QL Today...) boot programs pointer environment operating systems - QDOS versions, Minerva, SMSQ/E... Essentials to start with... (adding disk systems, adding toolkit 2, etc) Emulators and real QLs compared - how to choose which is right for you and so on. A lot of this type of material is already there but needs pulling together a bit better into a Basics section. A new year resolution for me perhaps. Hopefully I'll be a bit less busy in the new year! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 18/Nov/10 14:18 | Nov18: Simple hardware repairs? Tony Yes indeed, though I don't have expertise in that area. Hrrmm - I had better do something then (8-)# I am *sure* I have in past. Ah: http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/ql/trouble.htm That is 12 years old so I had better give it the once-over. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 18/Nov/10 11:27 | Nov18: snip In time, I'd like to build a beginners section (needs a bettername as it would be for returners too) on my website with articles like this and some of the more commonly asked questions (such as how to transfer files between QL and other computers, unzipping etc etc). There are such articles on there already, but a bit scattered and not easy enough to find. Basics? Fundamentals, perhaps? Wont scare off the Knowitalls who really need it. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Sorry Dilwyn not to be able to get this *first* privately to you, but you've accidentally set something in motion following your misunderstanding of what I wrote privately to you. I have to post this here now to try and stop possible wrong results. --- Dilwyn wrote - I've made a start on this by sending John in Wales (John Hitchcock) my Glossary_txt file with a request for him to add any other terms and between us we'll try to fill the gaps. Meanwhile, if anyone has suggestions of QL terminology to add to the list to let John know so he can add the terms to the list for me to write up when it's in a ready state. - Unfortunately Dilwyn forgot to ask me what I think about this above. Sorry, folks, but it's not my idea of a way forward. Greetings to all John in Wales ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In message dff1aaafca5d4b5fb829e6cbe0028...@d3hkh9x94, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk writes Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 18/Nov/10 11:27 | Nov18: snip In time, I'd like to build a beginners section (needs a bettername as it would be for returners too) on my website with articles like this and some of the more commonly asked questions (such as how to transfer files between QL and other computers, unzipping etc etc). There are such articles on there already, but a bit scattered and not easy enough to find. Basics? Tony Good idea! Covers all bases - beginners, less experienced users and returners. Thanks, Tony. Any more suggestions, anyone? And what sort of topics might such a section include - at the moment I'm thinking in terms of : File transfer Zip/Unzip expanding a basic QL contact points (e.g. Quanta, Rich Mellor, QL Today...) boot programs pointer environment operating systems - QDOS versions, Minerva, SMSQ/E... Essentials to start with... (adding disk systems, adding toolkit 2, etc) Emulators and real QLs compared - how to choose which is right for you and so on. A lot of this type of material is already there but needs pulling together a bit better into a Basics section. A new year resolution for me perhaps. Hopefully I'll be a bit less busy in the new year! Dilwyn Jones Hi Dilwyn, Basic, Intermediate and Advanced are often used in education and training. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'
Dilwyn said (15th October) :- Could someone (or you, even, John) put together a list of words which cause difficulty and I could try to put something together as an article sometime? - I said:- I'm on to it! Will report back. Reporting Back I've waited to see if there are any further contributions to this (renamed) thread. Just Norman. Thanks Norman. To my mind, potential 'rej-oiners' to the QL World need a catch-up-cache [cuc].Lurkers and others would also benefit. I know, I'm one of them! What I have in mind are essentially the same ideas I wrote on the list/and or QUANTA many years ago. This, below, does not deserve the heading 'specification' - it's more a doodle. If writers/webmasters or whatever could have a reference list of **distinctly QL** terms and were able to run any new work through it. Hits - ignore. Misses - write, say, at least 5 (?) words of explanation - which is then added to the master list as the suggested 'Official Title of The Term Appended ' (and ready for insertion to a Universal Alphabetical Index [UAI]. A bit like Wikipedia - entries that may be freely amplified, explained further by those with the knowledge and time and inclination. Collection/ Assembly might begin at an agreed date, with any seeming new (or old) term. Better still, if this were supplemented by filtering QL historic written banter already in soft copy. Common occurrences in there which are without a (then) current definition could be added, as they are uncovered - if necessary simply as 'An Outstanding Term Needing to be Defined'. Re (Dilwyn's) : '...you, even, John...' Let's see how hot the pot is first. But it's well within possibilities. I shall write/do more on this if it boils! Could there be copywrite implications? (I think not.) What's the consensus on the idea, in principal? Do our authors out there like the idea? I'm full of ideas of how it might be brought about! They would begin with a 'specification'. Ramblings all ramblings . Greetings to all, John in Wales ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
