Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans Trash can

2003-01-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/01/03 15:12:05 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've added a Trash-can facility to Q-Trans and would like some
feedback on how it should work. Basically, it's a short one character
length named folder on a specified drive (e.g. WIN1_*_) into which
files are moved rather than being deleted as such, so that a degree of
restoration of 'deleted' files is possible.

Note: it's not the same trashcan as Phil Borman implemented in later
Qubides.


Phew - there were some terrible problems with that Trashcan, which made me abandon it in the end!!

The feedback I'd like is on the name convention for files in the
trashcan. Since it's basically a very primitive facility, equivalent
to:

REMark DELETE drive$directory$filename$
DELETE trashcan$filename$
COPY drive$directory$filename$ TO trash$filename$

Option 1 would be just as above, the "pure" filename is all you see in
the trashcan, so it can be restored to anywhere and you don't see
where it came from.

Option 2 would copy the original path name and filename into the
trashcan, so that you can see where the file came from and where it
would be restored to, the snag being name lengths allowed by the QL
filing systems. The longest allowable QL path length is 41 characters
(36 character filename plus drive name length), so it would mean long
names being truncated. Consider when you have a long path name such as
WIN1_work_xchangefiles_docs_ (28 characters) and a filename like
workfile_doc (12 characters) this comes to 40 characters in all, but
copy it to a trashcan folder named win1_*_ and you'd get
win1_*_win1_work_xchangefiles_docs_workfile_doc (47 characters in all)
which would be truncated to win1_*_win1_work_xchangefiles_docs_workfi

Option 3 would be similar to option 2 but only the directory name (not
the drive name) is used, reducing the risk of truncated filenames.

So while option 2 or 3 allows you to see where the file came from,
they have a greater risk of truncated filenames. Option 1 doesn't
store info int he filename about where the file came from, but
doesn't have such a risk of truncated filenames.

Option 4 would be to make the program configurable to allow any of the
options, equivalent to this in BASIC in the way it would work:

Cut


Dilwyn, there seems to be a much better option. The best trashcan would be able to store various versions of the same file, sorted by original date order, then you could choose which one to restore.

I would suggest that either you need an index file and create your own shortened filenames to store these in the directory, or possibly easier, add some sort of header to each file to identify the details.

You should store:
1) original directory path
2) original file name
3) date file was created 
4) date file was deleted
5) Expiry date (? Suggestion - automatically clear all files in the trashcan after 60 days or so - user defined)

--
Rich Mellor 
RWAP Software
35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH
TEL: 01977 610509
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware


Re: [ql-users] Assembly question

2003-01-19 Thread Marcel Kilgus

Robert Newson wrote:
 Looking at the 1/-1 column (closest, as I've got 2/-127), I see that N is
 set and so branch should be taken.  However, N is in fact clear - N,Z are 
 clear and C,V are set: using 2's complement and adding (I learnt MC 
 programming on a 6502) you can see this:

-127 = 1000 0001  - 1000 0001
+2   =  0010  -  1101 [1's complement]
 1 [extra [initial] 1 for 2's complement]
   ---
   1 0111 

C = 1   : Obvious

Obviously it's not that obvious. ;-)
It is true that the result of an addition with NEG(op) equals an
subtraction with op, but not when it comes to the flags. If you do a
direct subtraction you see that at the end there is no carry involved.

  -127 =   1000 0001  Destination
+2 =    0010  Source
 0  1110  Carry bits
--
   0111 

Marcel




Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans Trash can

2003-01-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Far too complex for what is a fairly simple compiled basic piece of
code as outlined. No chance whatsoever of this being done - Q-Trans
has no date handling routines or file stats facilities anyway, plus
the simple minded approach means the Q-Trash (or whatever you call it)
can be manipulated by any file handler.

Dilwyn
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans Trash can


 In a message dated 19/01/03 15:12:05 GMT Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  I've added a Trash-can facility to Q-Trans and would like some
  feedback on how it should work. Basically, it's a short one
character
  length named folder on a specified drive (e.g. WIN1_*_) into which
  files are moved rather than being deleted as such, so that a
degree of
  restoration of 'deleted' files is possible.
 
  Note: it's not the same trashcan as Phil Borman implemented in
later
  Qubides.
 

 Phew - there were some terrible problems with that Trashcan, which
made me
 abandon it in the end!!

  The feedback I'd like is on the name convention for files in the
  trashcan. Since it's basically a very primitive facility,
equivalent
  to:
 
  REMark DELETE drive$directory$filename$
  DELETE trashcan$filename$
  COPY drive$directory$filename$ TO trash$filename$
 
  Option 1 would be just as above, the pure filename is all you
see in
  the trashcan, so it can be restored to anywhere and you don't see
  where it came from.
 
  Option 2 would copy the original path name and filename into the
  trashcan, so that you can see where the file came from and where
it
  would be restored to, the snag being name lengths allowed by the
QL
  filing systems. The longest allowable QL path length is 41
characters
  (36 character filename plus drive name length), so it would mean
long
  names being truncated. Consider when you have a long path name
such as
  WIN1_work_xchangefiles_docs_ (28 characters) and a filename like
  workfile_doc (12 characters) this comes to 40 characters in all,
but
  copy it to a trashcan folder named win1_*_ and you'd get
  win1_*_win1_work_xchangefiles_docs_workfile_doc (47 characters in
all)
  which would be truncated to
win1_*_win1_work_xchangefiles_docs_workfi
 
  Option 3 would be similar to option 2 but only the directory name
(not
  the drive name) is used, reducing the risk of truncated filenames.
 
  So while option 2 or 3 allows you to see where the file came from,
  they have a greater risk of truncated filenames. Option 1 doesn't
  store info int he filename about where the file came from,  but
  doesn't have such a risk of truncated filenames.
 
  Option 4 would be to make the program configurable to allow any of
the
  options, equivalent to this in BASIC in the way it would work:
 
  Cut
 

 Dilwyn, there seems to be a much better option.  The best trashcan
would be
 able to store various versions of the same file, sorted by original
date
 order, then you could choose which one to restore.

 I would suggest that either you need an index file and create your
own
 shortened filenames to store these in the directory, or possibly
easier, add
 some sort of header to each file to identify the details.

 You should store:
 1) original directory path
 2) original file name
 3) date file was created
 4) date file was deleted
 5) Expiry date (? Suggestion - automatically clear all files in the
trashcan
 after 60 days or so - user defined)

 --
 Rich Mellor
 RWAP Software
 35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH
 TEL: 01977 610509
 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware







Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans Trash can

2003-01-19 Thread James Hunkins

Dilwyn,

What I have seen done is:
  - if another copy of a file exists in the trashcan, rename the copy 
being moved there (IE: _1, _2, _3).  This doesn't require a date thing 
but, using the date code on the file would be about the same thing).

Also, if you don't mind, I would like to 'borrow' your trashcan concept 
for QDT.  I have this thing about standards - love them.  Any 
objections?

Jim

On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 10:06  AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Far too complex for what is a fairly simple compiled basic piece of
code as outlined. No chance whatsoever of this being done - Q-Trans
has no date handling routines or file stats facilities anyway, plus
the simple minded approach means the Q-Trash (or whatever you call it)
can be manipulated by any file handler.

Dilwyn
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Trans Trash can



In a message dated 19/01/03 15:12:05 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I've added a Trash-can facility to Q-Trans and would like some
feedback on how it should work. Basically, it's a short one

character

length named folder on a specified drive (e.g. WIN1_*_) into which
files are moved rather than being deleted as such, so that a

degree of

restoration of 'deleted' files is possible.

Note: it's not the same trashcan as Phil Borman implemented in

later

Qubides.



Phew - there were some terrible problems with that Trashcan, which

made me

abandon it in the end!!


The feedback I'd like is on the name convention for files in the
trashcan. Since it's basically a very primitive facility,

equivalent

to:

REMark DELETE drive$directory$filename$
DELETE trashcan$filename$
COPY drive$directory$filename$ TO trash$filename$

Option 1 would be just as above, the pure filename is all you

see in

the trashcan, so it can be restored to anywhere and you don't see
where it came from.

Option 2 would copy the original path name and filename into the
trashcan, so that you can see where the file came from and where

it

would be restored to, the snag being name lengths allowed by the

QL

filing systems. The longest allowable QL path length is 41

characters

(36 character filename plus drive name length), so it would mean

long

names being truncated. Consider when you have a long path name

such as

WIN1_work_xchangefiles_docs_ (28 characters) and a filename like
workfile_doc (12 characters) this comes to 40 characters in all,

but

copy it to a trashcan folder named win1_*_ and you'd get
win1_*_win1_work_xchangefiles_docs_workfile_doc (47 characters in

all)

which would be truncated to

win1_*_win1_work_xchangefiles_docs_workfi


Option 3 would be similar to option 2 but only the directory name

(not

the drive name) is used, reducing the risk of truncated filenames.

So while option 2 or 3 allows you to see where the file came from,
they have a greater risk of truncated filenames. Option 1 doesn't
store info int he filename about where the file came from,  but
doesn't have such a risk of truncated filenames.

Option 4 would be to make the program configurable to allow any of

the

options, equivalent to this in BASIC in the way it would work:

Cut



Dilwyn, there seems to be a much better option.  The best trashcan

would be

able to store various versions of the same file, sorted by original

date

order, then you could choose which one to restore.

I would suggest that either you need an index file and create your

own

shortened filenames to store these in the directory, or possibly

easier, add

some sort of header to each file to identify the details.

You should store:
1) original directory path
2) original file name
3) date file was created
4) date file was deleted
5) Expiry date (? Suggestion - automatically clear all files in the

trashcan

after 60 days or so - user defined)

--
Rich Mellor
RWAP Software
35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH
TEL: 01977 610509
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware










Re: [ql-users] Assembly question

2003-01-19 Thread Robert Newson

P Witte wrote:


Robert Newson writes:

...

No need for the homework: I like your table and will adopt it forthwith! I
particularly liked the compressed logical expressions for the flags.

Per


Sorry to admit it, but it isn't mine (only the comments, plus the DBcc 
extensions, are mine); I got it from Quick QL Machine Language by Alan 
Giles (my 68k tutorial...I actually originally learnt 6502 from The Pet 
Revealed and the Acorn Atom manual; later was I given the 650x manual for 
reference - especially with regard to what's done in each clock cycle of an 
instruction).