Re: [ql-users] One last try...
In Dave P wrote: I see two good opportunities for major developments that have minimal cost. One is SMSQ on a good emulator on linux on an ARM board (or other highly predictable hardware). As a RISC OS user I know ARM processors are slow (except for the Samsung Halla), with no 64 bit version yet. That said, ARM is low power, and very popular therefore should be around for a while yet. What is really needed is portable RISC OS computer, rather than a new OS for ARM CPUs. Your suggestion sounds a bit like the new Amiga OSes that run on PowerPC and use a 68K CPU for apps. The other is that 'someone' invites Nasta to the UK and gives him a room, power, and a network connection. I could invite him if wants to come, we have a room, power and broadband network connection which we have used for lodgers in the past, it now contains QLs. Norwich is a cheap place to live with a Maplins store in walking distance. Why would he need to be in the UK, surely a QL is QL? He is *so* close to a complete coldfire machine that a truly *tiny* investment and support would see the project through to completion. Maybe we could all sponsor him to the tune of 10 pounds each per week - just a few people could share the costs to house and equip him - he already has almost everything he needs... I am interested, but think Quanta should approach first with a business plan. -- Tarquin Mills RUNG (RISC OS Users, Norfolk Group) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/rung/ (running on RISC OS) New domain name coming one day http://rung.aaug.riscos/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] XP problems
Ian Pizer wrote: Hi I have solved some niggling XP problems by searching http://www.TweakXP.com But my old desktop XP insists on restarting when I tell it to shutdown. Cutting power seems an OK choice (like a QL). If I remove Automatic restart in System Properties I get the hated Blue Window. Ideas? You could use a QL or some other system such as RISC OS, Linux, Solaris etc. instead. I am getting worried by increasing use of non-Windows forums as Windows help sites. M$ Windows already has enough help sites, we as QL users only have the one. -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/accus/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
- Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] One last try... In Dave P wrote: I see two good opportunities for major developments that have minimal cost. One is SMSQ on a good emulator on linux on an ARM board (or other highly predictable hardware). As a RISC OS user I know ARM processors are slow (except for the Samsung Halla), with no 64 bit version yet. That said, ARM is low power, and very popular therefore should be around for a while yet. What is really needed is portable RISC OS computer, rather than a new OS for ARM CPUs. Your suggestion sounds a bit like the new Amiga OSes that run on PowerPC and use a 68K CPU for apps. The other is that 'someone' invites Nasta to the UK and gives him a room, power, and a network connection. I could invite him if wants to come, we have a room, power and broadband network connection which we have used for lodgers in the past, it now contains QLs. Norwich is a cheap place to live with a Maplins store in walking distance. Why would he need to be in the UK, surely a QL is QL? He is *so* close to a complete coldfire machine that a truly *tiny* investment and support would see the project through to completion. Maybe we could all sponsor him to the tune of 10 pounds each per week - just a few people could share the costs to house and equip him - he already has almost everything he needs... I am interested, but think Quanta should approach first with a business plan. On the contrary, It isd up to whoever to contact Quanta with a business plan and proposals. John G. Quanta Treasurer. -- ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Tarquin Mills wrote: As a RISC OS user I know ARM processors are slow (except for the Samsung Halla), with no 64 bit version yet. That said, ARM is low power, That's not really true, or relevant. The slowest production ARM runs at 56MHz. The fastest ARM I know of runs at 1.2GHz. 64 bit isn't really relevant to emulating a 32-bit processor, so I think it's a bit of a red herring. I could invite him if wants to come, we have a room, power and broadband network connection which we have used for lodgers in the past, it now contains QLs. Norwich is a cheap place to live with a Maplins store in walking distance. Why would he need to be in the UK, surely a QL is QL? Working environment. Resources. Distractions. There are lots of obstacles to him doing it where he is. Since it's part of the EU, he can relocate to wherever can best support his efforts. If he chooses to. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List
RE: [ql-users] One last try...
Hmmm. As an (sadly) ex-Quanta Member, perhaps I shouldn't poke my nose in but grin There's not really any hard and fast rules here are there? If someone had a business plan they thought they might interest Quanta with then, true, it would be up to them to put it together and present it. However, if a body, such as Quanta, should wish to engage a consultant/contractor to carry out a job of work/project to further that bodies interests then they may well wish to put together a project plan/proposal and work together with the proposed consultant/contractor on the plan and contract terms, etc. There'y'go my tuppence. P.S. I now have a DOS 6.22 partition on my XP machine which will soon, I hope, proudly appear as a QL emulator on my boot menu choice (Boot Magic). And all my old QL software will have a new Pentium lease of life! bigger grin Regards and many thanks to all still carrying the Flag, Dave Isaacs Slough Berkshire PPS. Children, motorbikes and Windows Work stopped play when my QL hardware broke 5 or 6 years ago. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of thegilpins Sent: 10 April 2004 15:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] One last try... - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] One last try... In Dave P wrote: I see two good opportunities for major developments that have minimal cost. One is SMSQ on a good emulator on linux on an ARM board (or other highly predictable hardware). As a RISC OS user I know ARM processors are slow (except for the Samsung Halla), with no 64 bit version yet. That said, ARM is low power, and very popular therefore should be around for a while yet. What is really needed is portable RISC OS computer, rather than a new OS for ARM CPUs. Your suggestion sounds a bit like the new Amiga OSes that run on PowerPC and use a 68K CPU for apps. The other is that 'someone' invites Nasta to the UK and gives him a room, power, and a network connection. I could invite him if wants to come, we have a room, power and broadband network connection which we have used for lodgers in the past, it now contains QLs. Norwich is a cheap place to live with a Maplins store in walking distance. Why would he need to be in the UK, surely a QL is QL? He is *so* close to a complete coldfire machine that a truly *tiny* investment and support would see the project through to completion. Maybe we could all sponsor him to the tune of 10 pounds each per week - just a few people could share the costs to house and equip him - he already has almost everything he needs... I am interested, but think Quanta should approach first with a business plan. On the contrary, It isd up to whoever to contact Quanta with a business plan and proposals. John G. Quanta Treasurer. -- ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, thegilpins wrote: On the contrary, It isd up to whoever to contact Quanta with a business plan and proposals. Since there is no business case for making any QL product, this isn't likely to happen. Which is why I suppested donations/sponsorship ;) There are other options, but some don't make as much sense as they used to. For example, it doesn't make sense to release a QXL-type 68K card, because machines are now so fast they can emulate the processor faster than the actual processor runs. It would be nice to hear from Nasta, privately or on list... :) Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
John Gilpin wrote: Tarquin Mills wrote: I am interested, but I think Quanta should be approached first with a business plan. On the contrary, It isd up to whoever to contact Quanta with a business plan and proposals. Which what I said. -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/accus/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL equipment, mags etc needing good home
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maurice Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Dear all. I've just moved, and extracted my old QL setup from under the stairs where it's been for quite a number of years. I'm most unlikely to set it up again (sorry!) so would like to dispense with it. There are two original QLs, one JS, one JM, plus a Trump Card, twin disk drive, two monitors (one small green screen, one colour), Toolkit and Lightning ROMs, a box of assorted disks and microdrives with software, a quantity of QL World mags and old copies of Quanta, plus odds and ends like serial cables and the Jan Jones Superbasic book. I'd better say that I've no idea whether all this stuff will work after all these years. However, if anyone's interested, please email or phone me (number below). I don't know what where you reside, yet we take donations like those you list at the London Quanta Group. Address is in the Quanta magazines. Other local groups may also do so. Someone, somewhere will have a use for it, so try to make contact. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Printer help
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes At this stage I'd be pretty happy if I could just get it working via USB, without anything else too clever on the system! Email sent to Epson tech support to see if they know of a reason why their software can't find USB printers or install their 'USB printer port' drivers as their own books say they ought to be able to. Let's hope you get a good report back. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Nasta
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On the contrary, It isd up to whoever to contact Quanta with a business plan and proposals. I must disagree John. A discusion needs to take place between Quanta and anyone else who seeks Quanta assistance. What may be proposed is very much dependant upon how far Quanta is willing to assist. Expecting someone to come forward with a cut and dried proposal or business plan is unrealistic. You are dealing with members and friends, not contractors, lawyers and accountants. The Quanta committee does need come down and start talking to members in their own language. A little bit of trust wouldn't come amiss either. Indeed. Some sensible negotiations. It is all for the longer term good. Plus the person involved does have a proven hardware track record. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes P.S. I now have a DOS 6.22 partition on my XP machine which will soon, I hope, proudly appear as a QL emulator on my boot menu choice (Boot Magic). And all my old QL software will have a new Pentium lease of life! bigger grin Plus you can have more fun with the another way of doing it ... add an emulator on top of Windows, and then have access to all the new software and effects available too. I have the emulator, QPC2 with SMSQ/E, Pointer Environment, and most recently Dilwyn's Launchpad desktop. So it is just click on an icon to launch any software now :-) ... and, of course. it all multi-tasks in a hi-res with lots of colours. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Quality of Software
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 9 Apr 2004 at 20:22, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (...) With the QL we already have many divergent routes, that inevitably leave some users outside - original QDOS on original hardware and its upgrades, SMSQ, QXL cards, Q40's and Q60's, emulators like QPC2 and QEmulator. And let's not forget the Aurora. One heartening thing, though, on most of these machines: SMSQ/E runs on them and presents a unified OS. Is there an answer that will keep enough in common to keep us all interested ? Isn't that enough? It is good ... that is why we are still here. Yet future has to hold something new and better for us to move forward with ... this maintains interest. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Printer help
In 'View devices by connection' is the USB port, or USB card listed ? Listed as: OPTi82C861 PCI to USB Open Host Controller USB Root Hub ? USB device (properties says driver not installed...i.e. EpsUSB missing as expected PCI standard host CPU bridge If it is look at its 'Properties', and go to 'Driver', then 'Update' from the supplied CD with the Printer. The supplied CD does not install a 'driver' as such, it installs a whole host of software such as Status Monitor and all sorts of printer-related bits and pieces but there seems to be no way to install a 'driver' as we would know it. And browsing the CD I cannot find a single folder or file which looks vaguely like a stand alone driver free of the all the tied in Epson clutter. Other options to try are : Go to the Epsom web site, and seek their technical help. Done, awaiting reply. Do a search on the web and see if there are any Freeware drivers available that will cover you hardware. Surprising are much is available. Might try that after I get a reply from Epson. Install it on another PC - where it will probably work straightaway :-). Win98 can be very 'stubborn' with devices and conflicts, as plug and play is not perfect for all hardware circumstances. That will be done when I get a chance. Start from scratch, adding one card at a time. Am on the verge of giving up and just using it on the parallel port and to hell with USB (or rather, with Epson software) -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Nasta
On the contrary, It isd up to whoever to contact Quanta with a business plan and proposals. I must disagree John. A discusion needs to take place between Quanta and anyone else who seeks Quanta assistance. What may be proposed is very much dependant upon how far Quanta is willing to assist. Expecting someone to come forward with a cut and dried proposal or business plan is unrealistic. You are dealing with members and friends, not contractors, lawyers and accountants. The Quanta committee does need come down and start talking to members in their own language. A little bit of trust wouldn't come amiss either. Although it is too late to present this as something for discussion at the Quanta AGM, there is nothing to stop this sort of idea being discussed during one of the workshop sessions as aninformal discussion or debate from which the main points and views raised could be summarised and presented to the committee for discussion, or even for informal discussions to take place at the AGM dinner on saturday night - all I;m suggesting is bounce a few ideas around as initial discussion, sound out the members and officials and start forming views which in themselves won't carry any official weight but you may at least get a feeeling of opinion among the active members present which may simplify or clarify the direction any formal enquiries, discussion of any business plans or requests for help with funding etc might take in the future. It is quite common for informal discussion and 'sounding out' to take place before things go through formal channels to know the best way to (legally and fairly of course) present matters in the most efficient way. -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL equipment, mags etc needing good home
I've just moved, and extracted my old QL setup from under the stairs where it's been for quite a number of years. I'm most unlikely to set it up again (sorry!) so would like to dispense with it. .. [snip] .. I don't know what where you reside, yet we take donations like those you list at the London Quanta Group. Address is in the Quanta magazines. Other local groups may also do so. Someone, somewhere will have a use for it, so try to make contact. I'm not a member of Quanta and haven't been for some years, so I don't have any (recent) Quanta magazines or QL addresses. I live in Torquay, Devon; I'm quite happy for someone to collect the stuff, or to send it by carrier if someone's willing to reimburse the shipping. If anyone is interested, contact me directly to make arrangements. regards -- Maurice Buxton 07881 931456 (mobile) ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] Email problems
Hi everybody on the list, I read about missing emails. Well, very strange things are going on. I ran several tests with Wolfgang Lenerz, for example, and only 3 of 4 mails from Bruce arrived at j-m-s.com Mails from some sources do not arrive at j-m-s.com at all, although they are whitelisted (they don't get through if no spam filter is active at all!). SOMETHING in the world wide web is filtering mails (or throwing them away) without notifying the sender. This is reproduceable in some cases, in other cases it is random. My provider has no clue either, but in the reproduceable cases the sending server refuses to connect to the receiving server. Fact is: it is unreliable and it is related to j-m-s.com (my main account). I would guess that due to the massive number of faked virus mails (I get the bounces, so I have an idea what is going on), j-m-s.com may be on some internal black lists (I checked all public lists, not listed in any!). Therefore, please send all mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the time being! If you have sent me mails during the last few weeks and you had no reply (which would be unusual, as I tend to reply very quickly) then please send it again, but to my .DE account! Regards Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Email problems
SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: Hi everybody on the list, I read about missing emails. Well, very strange things are going on. SOMETHING in the world wide web is filtering mails (or throwing them away) without notifying the sender. This is reproduceable in some cases, in other cases it is random. My provider has no clue either, but in the reproduceable cases the sending server refuses to connect to the receiving server. Fact is: it is unreliable and it is related to j-m-s.com (my main account). I would guess that due to the massive number of faked virus mails (I get the bounces, Regards Jochen NOT all bounces are actually that, One of the methods used Spoofs just that, Bounces ! -- Paul Holmgren Hoosier Corps #33, L-6 2 57 300-C's in Indy ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Email problems
NOT all bounces are actually that, One of the methods used Spoofs just that, Bounces ! Of course, Bounces with a size 30k and ZIP attachments (or other nice things) have to be Virus spoofs - but I get the full range :-( Masses!!! Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] XP problems
Have you added anything recently after which the problems started? Another approach is to remove all the PCI cards and see if this is an improvement. On that assumption, put the PCI cards back one at a time and see if it makes a difference. Also do this with USB devices. A lot of work but it should give you the answer you need. Best Wishes, Peter In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote: Hi I have solved some niggling XP problems by searching http://www.TweakXP.com But my old desktop XP insists on restarting when I tell it to shutdown. Cutting power seems an OK choice (like a QL). If I remove Automatic restart in System Properties I get the hated Blue Window. Ideas? Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Switzerland e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 41227581410 ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] XP problems
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Agreed to some extent, although equally we are using Windoze, Intel hardware etc to further our QLing. Those of us on this list who use PeeCee's need to have the underlying hardware and system software working properly to be able to use our emulators in the most efficient way, so I don't see that talk of 'other systems' is necessarily wrong on this list (though we could always use Dave's QL-Chat which was created for the purpose) as long as the discussion and help requests is directly or indirectly related to the QL side of things. My own saga with the Epson USB drivers illustrates this I think - without solving this I wasn't able to use my PC properly which in turn prevented me using QPC2 properly. Unless I can resolve this, there's no point reinstalling QPC2 and all the QXL.WINs if I have to subsequently update my backups and reinstall everything again. Point in question is that although the Epson is easily used via the parallel port, I wish to use the parallel port to daisy chain my parallel port scanner and Zip drive. Any two will work on that interface, the three together won't. Sorry Dilwyn, your problem was not directly related to QPC, I do not think it was appropriate for this group. I wonder if a Mac user of Q-Emulator would have gotten the same reaction from you. This is why the Norwich Quanta group barely exists now, an ex-Quanta committee member insinuated that we do not exist right in front of us. This the slippery slope to oblivion. -- Tarquin Mills Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] XP problems
Thanks Peter, I gave up trying and ran a Restore and that cleared up the problem Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Switzerland e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 41227581410 -- Message original -- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:55 +0100 (BST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Fox) Subject: Re: [ql-users] XP problems To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you added anything recently after which the problems started? Another approach is to remove all the PCI cards and see if this is an improvement. On that assumption, put the PCI cards back one at a time and see if it makes a difference. Also do this with USB devices. A lot of work but it should give you the answer you need. Best Wishes, Peter In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote: Hi I have solved some niggling XP problems by searching http://www.TweakXP.com But my old desktop XP insists on restarting when I tell it to shutdown. Cutting power seems an OK choice (like a QL). If I remove Automatic restart in System Properties I get the hated Blue Window. Ideas? Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Switzerland e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 41227581410 ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Printer help
In a message dated 10/04/2004 19:37:32 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Epson uninstall routine (via COntrol Panel-Add/Remove programs) seems to be quite clean in that every time I try to reinstall it does at least go through the motions of trying to find the printer. I've tried to find and remove relevant registry entries and also in desperation identified and removed .inf files. I'm not sure that's a legal way of doing things, but it does seem to prevent the same old problems occurring at each reinstall with other hardware at least. The modem is a cheap internal one, for example, with non-user-friendly installation routines which are easy to foul up. Install the wrong driver, it tells you it's working, but it isn't. Deinstall, reinstall, it automatically installs the wrong driver again without giving you the option to select driver. Find and remove the inf file for the wrong driver (luckily meaningfully named!) it seems to force it to ask where the driver is next time and it then installs correctly. This printer and general reinstallation saga isn't allbad news. I've run into so many problems and downloaded so many new drivers that at least apart from the Epson stuff it's all up to date and Dilwyn has learned a hell of a lot about taming Windoze. Shame I can't say the same about Epson software (yet!) Hmm - just a final thought (as Epson will probably take a couple of weeks to reply, unless you can get their live chat to work - not worked here since I installed the latest Sun Java) Anyway, what would happen if you disabled the parallel port before installing the Epson software?? You can disable the hardware in control-panel / system / hardware / ports (should list Epson ECP Printer Port LPT1) - right click on this and disable (or similar - I'm on XP). -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH TEL: 01977 610509 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Which is still about 100 USD and you probably mean an Upgrade edition of XP Home which is NOT XP Pro I was talking about. (And you can get that for about 60 bucks here however you DO need a previous OS) The company I work for is an accredited M$ reseller so I know what I am talking about. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL equipment, mags etc needing good home
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 at 00:09:51, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maurice Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I've just moved, and extracted my old QL setup from under the stairs where it's been for quite a number of years. I'm most unlikely to set it up again (sorry!) so would like to dispense with it. In addition Tony Firshman does a very good update of QL events. Perhaps he can email you a copy ? Looks like Maurice's email is for lists only. Would be happy to include him on the list, but current meetings are Manchester and USA - not quite suitable (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List