Re: [ql-users] Toolkit II
TK2 copyright will not expire until at least 2010 (I believe that it was made available in 1985) however IIRC TK2 has been released to the public by TT... Of course I may be wrong on the latter. (TT?) IIRC the TK2 version that is on Dylwin's emulators CDROM is OK to use with emulators. I had asked this TT and Jochen, but Dylwin should know better. Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Question on SBASIC job trees in SMSQ/E
You can always alter the owner once you have started a job. Yes, but in Sbasic, how? Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Question on SBASIC job trees in SMSQ/E
It is the first time I use such features, and after 20 years of readings about QDOS, I had the impression that both 'test' jobs would have belonged to 'launcher'. I don't think most people would want it this way. This would mean that you couldn't write startup scripts that EX other jobs as the job would be killed at the end of the script. Marcel I understand. Of course in that case it would be easy to never kill the startup script. And what about a version of EX that would allow to launch jobs working in parallel to the others (ie not blocked as with EW until end of processig), but daughters of the launching one? Would it be complicated? Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Question on SBASIC job trees in SMSQ/E
What you want is that the EX'd prog be owned by the launcher job, which uis what I definitely wouldn't want. The only solution I can see would be a new keyword. How about EX_M (EXec with Me as owner)? This could be a trivial change that I could build into the next version of SMSQ/E. Would that solve your problem? Exactly !!! I had just sent my last message when yours arrived ! Wolfgang Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems
SMSQ/E is mostly so easy to use because it has never even heard of the words security concept (does the mail count as OnTopic now? ;-) ) And if I understood well my discussions with TT, this was exactly his target in 1983: no security stuff for a very small personal computer because it is not needed, not wished and it would complicate things for the user as well as for the programmer. Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] Philips USB chip
I lost the URL for the Philips USB chip. I don't know how. Can you resend it? Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Nasta
ZN a écrit: Now I get to be the subject on an email list ;-) - well, there is always that first time, i suppose ;-) [snip] Regards, Nasta Hello, I know how painful it is to receive all this spam. Fortunately I receive only ~50/day and 80% are send to other [EMAIL PROTECTED] users. So this flood is relatively easy to filter (I asked them 3 times if they were hacked or if they sold the adresses: no answer..). Do you have another email that is easier to use? Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Nasta
A possible project being investigated is a board that would in essence be a QL replacement, that could fit into the old case (or a much cmaller one), would include extra frills and in essence be a all-in-one machine, is a board based on the aforementioned 68VZ328 Dragonball. There was talk of this on the list before, but at that time there was no source for the CPUs. Note that this board would be far less powerfull than a GoldFire (or Q60) - think of it as a 66MHz GoldCard with loads more RAM and Aurora+ style graphics, but would be a simple and quite cheap solution for a replacement QL for non-power users ;-) especially if I can find a market for it elsewhere and sell it under the guise of something else (which I think I may be able to do). And now questions about this 68328. You talk about the VZ version. But according the motorola web site there is the 68SZ328: The MC68SZ328 (DragonBall Super VZ) microprocessor, the fourth generation of the 68K-based DragonBall family of products, is designed to save system designers time, power, and cost. Requiring less board space, it allows for reduced pin count and fewer programming steps when designing products. The major differences between previous versions of DragonBall processors and the new Super VZ are an improvement in system speed, TFT color LCD support, an A/D converter (with touch panel control), an MMC/SD host controller, a DMA controller, embedded SRAM, a USB device controller, and an I2C interface. It has a lot of things on board, even 100 kb of memory not mentioned in the extract above. And it is reasonably fast: 10 MIPS against about 7 MIPS in the 24 MHz 60020 based Super Gold Card (if I understand how to do the calculation :) But do you know more about the USB interface? I do not know the exact terminology, but IIRC what you already wrote here, it is not the same in the PC and in accessories. Is it a real USB port like in PCs? (I know the sotware problem of drivers, it is not the question). And: is it available in reasonnable quantities, ie about 50 units? Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
OK, I'll go on record to subsidise this at the tume of 100 . Anybody else? Wolfgang You can count on me. However apparently the money would be welcome, but he has no plans to relocate (see Nasta discussion). Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Nasta
The USB interface is not a USB 'HOST' but rather a USB endpoint. I.e, a SZ328 system with propper software support becomes a USB device, rather than a host (or, to use simpler terms, a controller). As such, this port will not be able to accept other USB devices directly, although there appears to be a way to do this using some sort of a USB bridge device, something which is commonly used in USB to USB networking cables, for instance. Specs on this are very difficult to find. I have only seen it referred to in a completely unrelated document (for a Cirrus - Crystal MP3 player chip), where this approach is used to connect USB mass memory devices. Exactly, that was underlying idea: use of the USB port provided with of that chip for mass storage, and more specifically, use the USB flash memory keys around that are cheaper and cheaper. But it is not possible. Here the best sum up of a few hours of comments reading and browsing through the USB 1.1 specifications ( www.usb.org ): USB is a very asymmetrical protocol; the roles of the host and the targets are very different. (Some specific examples: *all* data transfers are initiated by the host; the host sends a SOF token once per millisecond; the host is in charge of enumerating the device tree, reading each device's descriptor, and polling any devices whose descriptors request it. The target simply listens, and responds to requests, except for a very few situations such as wakeup-from-sleep.) So the conclusion: I still hope that it may be feasible to interface flash ram or rom cartridges to the 68SZ328, but it will not be through the USB *device* port that they provided. Or maybe yes, but outside of any industry standard by using very special tinkering. Let it be. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] One last try...
Dave P a écrit: Hi all... Timing is a bit off, but this isn't an April Fool joke... :) I have been working on a business venture in embedded computing. It involves computing for environmental controls. For this I have specified a hardware reference platform with minimal requirements that are quite high. I am now sitting on standard ARM 7500 complete system boards with the following spec: 64MHz EP7500FE ARM system on chip (200/400 MHz options) 2x 72 pin SIMM for FPM or EDO memory, up to 256MB. Three ROM sockets, 2MB flash, supports 6MB max. Parallel port, serial ports, floppy Dual channel IDE ATA/33 Integrated video: 800 x 600 @16.7M 1024 x 768 @32K 1600 x 1200 @256 Any user-customizable resolution/frame rate selectable. Integrated 10BaseT Ethernet Integrated ESS audio. 16 bit ISA slot Real time clock I2C bus I am now at the point of needing to obtain or create a basic OS and filesystem for my product. I have no real need to create anything, as Linux or BSD are available... but... [snip] Is there any demand/need for this? Pretty much you have to speak up now either way, or the project won't start... I discussed many years about this with Tony Tebby. And think I know his answer: what money do you have to pay him for that job? I tend to believe that this is the right reaction. So after you did the hardware (I think that needed some money to do), do you have the budget to start/finish the sotware? Then you could count on Tony and something much better than QDOS/SMSQ/E (possibly with a SMSQ/E emulator as a bonus). Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Eindhoven, QL Today Renewal and NEWS
Nope, sorry. Any Paris show anytime ? We thought of one last year. However I recall two years ago you were one of the few visitors. I brought Bruno Coativy some imperial sized dies (thread cutters) to make 1/4 tripod bolt. That was the sum total of the 'QL' trading there. We did not see any of the French user group leaders I was there, but you had already left How many people on this list would come to a Paris show at the end of October? I know Bruno would come - he is not on the web, but uses my BBS regularly. I would attend, earlier than last time Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] The QL in 3D (first real thread on new list)
Dilwyn Jones a écrit: Sorry, I did not make it clear enough, I mean true 3D (funny coloured glasses, panoramic displays etc) not 3D Graphics. Please sign my petition and get the QL back in the high street (see sig). -- Tarquin Mills Ah, I see, those red and blue specs you get with some films. And of course you know that early game, Wanderer, for the QL, which did something like this. I even have it here somewhere whith the plastic glasses. But I never was excellent as seeing 3D that way. And I find games boring, so I still own it, tried it once about 18 years ago and never looked at it again... Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List