Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-10-23 Thread Xiaoxu LI
I should have read the following page on R_Extension_for_MediaWiki
http://mars.wiwi.hu-berlin.de/mediawiki/sk/index.php/R_Extension_for_MediaWiki_v0.06#New_tags_and_attributes

Has anybody seen an Rform.../Rform online example page in English?

I really wish wiki.r-project.org be equipped with parameter input
interfaces and convenient R codes submit choices. Any donated Rweb,
Rcgi or other R server can be the redirected server-side and the
professional security burden can be avoided for wiki.r-project.org


LI Xiaoxu

School of Arts and Social Sciences,
Shenzhen Graduate School,
Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
China

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Philippe Grosjean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Just to add to what Ajay said: the http://wiki.r-project.org does not
 execute R code from within wiki pages. This is a choice for security
 reasons. However, there are ways to get R code from R wiki pages and run it
 in R: http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:misc:wikicode

 Also, there is a discussion about integrating Sweave in wiki pages:
 http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=developers:latex2wiki.

 If someone would like to start a teaching stats with R topic on the R wiki
 and organize a section for this, he is more than welcome to make a proposal
 (send it to me).

 Best,

 Philippe Grosjean

 ..°}))
  ) ) ) ) )
 ( ( ( ( (Prof. Philippe Grosjean
  ) ) ) ) )
 ( ( ( ( (Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems
  ) ) ) ) )   Mons-Hainaut University, Belgium
 ( ( ( ( (
 ..

 Ajay ohri wrote:

 Hi Tobias,

 It makes sense from a practical view point. SAS Institute funds its own
 wiki
 at www.sascommunity.org  The catch is they have editorial influence and
 can
 use offerings there for commercial purposes.


 The surprising thing is you can actually create a wiki in wikipedia
 itself.
 Just adopt a convention lets say Rproj for beginning of each wiki page.

 Note this would mean volunteers parsing the back and forth of messages
 into
 structure ( maybe it exists already)

 However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it
 gives
 you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
 kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its
 owned
 by Google , the big company.

 Other options from Google include Google Docs as well as Google Sites.You
 can even create bulk Google Docs from a writely email that your
 docs.google.com account gives you, and just last week someone created a
 Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to the Docs.

 As you may have noticed and I have pointed out once the R -project website
 itself is badly outdated compared to the software itself. The official R
 wiki  of course is here
 http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php

 So these are the options - noting that email groups are more easy to use
 and
  addictive , though not the best for collobrative knowledge storage over a
 period of time.

 Regards,

 Ajay

 www.decisionstats.com

 On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Verbeke
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various

 effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
 MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
 first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
 to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
 to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
 parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
 html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
 parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
 but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
 textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
 example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
 outputs.

 Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
 fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk my
 dream here rather than at wikipedia. If you know it had been a
 practice rather than an idea, please tell me where to write my
 teaching interface.

 Some have had similar dreams:

 http://ideas.repec.org/p/hum/wpaper/sfb649dp2008-030.html
 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Slides/Klinke.pdf


 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Abstracts/Klinke+Schmerbach+Troitschanskaia.pdf

 HTH,
 Tobias


 LI, Xiaoxu

 School of Arts and Social Sciences,
 Shenzhen Graduate School,
 Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
 China

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Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-10-23 Thread Philippe Grosjean



Xiaoxu LI wrote:

I should have read the following page on R_Extension_for_MediaWiki
http://mars.wiwi.hu-berlin.de/mediawiki/sk/index.php/R_Extension_for_MediaWiki_v0.06#New_tags_and_attributes

Has anybody seen an Rform.../Rform online example page in English?

I really wish wiki.r-project.org be equipped with parameter input
interfaces and convenient R codes submit choices. Any donated Rweb,
Rcgi or other R server can be the redirected server-side and the
professional security burden can be avoided for wiki.r-project.org


Yes. Another option that was considered was to write a Sweave driver for 
the wiki pages. However, in any cases, there are serious security 
issues. Unless I am helped by an expert in this field, I don't feel 
confident enough to add that functionality in http://wiki.r-project.org.


One solution I could provide is a wiki R package with various utility 
functions. One of them would be a function to extract R code from given 
wiki pages in a text editor. Then, the user could run this code while 
keeping full control of the way the code is executed (locally, on his 
machine).


Best,

Philippe Grosjean
..°}))
 ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( (Prof. Philippe Grosjean
 ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( (Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems
 ) ) ) ) )   Mons-Hainaut University, Belgium
( ( ( ( (
..



LI Xiaoxu

School of Arts and Social Sciences,
Shenzhen Graduate School,
Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
China

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Philippe Grosjean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Just to add to what Ajay said: the http://wiki.r-project.org does not
execute R code from within wiki pages. This is a choice for security
reasons. However, there are ways to get R code from R wiki pages and run it
in R: http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:misc:wikicode

Also, there is a discussion about integrating Sweave in wiki pages:
http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=developers:latex2wiki.

If someone would like to start a teaching stats with R topic on the R wiki
and organize a section for this, he is more than welcome to make a proposal
(send it to me).

Best,

Philippe Grosjean

..°}))
 ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( (Prof. Philippe Grosjean
 ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( (Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems
 ) ) ) ) )   Mons-Hainaut University, Belgium
( ( ( ( (
..

Ajay ohri wrote:

Hi Tobias,

It makes sense from a practical view point. SAS Institute funds its own
wiki
at www.sascommunity.org  The catch is they have editorial influence and
can
use offerings there for commercial purposes.


The surprising thing is you can actually create a wiki in wikipedia
itself.
Just adopt a convention lets say Rproj for beginning of each wiki page.

Note this would mean volunteers parsing the back and forth of messages
into
structure ( maybe it exists already)

However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it
gives
you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its
owned
by Google , the big company.

Other options from Google include Google Docs as well as Google Sites.You
can even create bulk Google Docs from a writely email that your
docs.google.com account gives you, and just last week someone created a
Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to the Docs.

As you may have noticed and I have pointed out once the R -project website
itself is badly outdated compared to the software itself. The official R
wiki  of course is here
http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php

So these are the options - noting that email groups are more easy to use
and
 addictive , though not the best for collobrative knowledge storage over a
period of time.

Regards,

Ajay

www.decisionstats.com

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Verbeke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


Hi,

I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various

effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
outputs.

Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk 

Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-09-29 Thread Ajay ohri
Hi Tobias,

It makes sense from a practical view point. SAS Institute funds its own wiki
at www.sascommunity.org  The catch is they have editorial influence and can
use offerings there for commercial purposes.


The surprising thing is you can actually create a wiki in wikipedia itself.
Just adopt a convention lets say Rproj for beginning of each wiki page.

Note this would mean volunteers parsing the back and forth of messages into
structure ( maybe it exists already)

However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it gives
you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its owned
by Google , the big company.

Other options from Google include Google Docs as well as Google Sites.You
can even create bulk Google Docs from a writely email that your
docs.google.com account gives you, and just last week someone created a
Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to the Docs.

As you may have noticed and I have pointed out once the R -project website
itself is badly outdated compared to the software itself. The official R
wiki  of course is here
http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php

So these are the options - noting that email groups are more easy to use and
 addictive , though not the best for collobrative knowledge storage over a
period of time.

Regards,

Ajay

www.decisionstats.com

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Verbeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various
 effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
 MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
 first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
 to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
 to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
 parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
 html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
 parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
 but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
 textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
 example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
 outputs.

 Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
 fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk my
 dream here rather than at wikipedia. If you know it had been a
 practice rather than an idea, please tell me where to write my
 teaching interface.


 Some have had similar dreams:

 http://ideas.repec.org/p/hum/wpaper/sfb649dp2008-030.html
 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Slides/Klinke.pdf

 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Abstracts/Klinke+Schmerbach+Troitschanskaia.pdf

 HTH,
 Tobias


 LI, Xiaoxu

 School of Arts and Social Sciences,
 Shenzhen Graduate School,
 Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
 China

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Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-09-29 Thread freerow
Hi ohri:

Thanks for your introduction of knol. I am testing it now. I can't
google out the Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to
the Docs. Is it something like R(D)COM?

My point is to adopt html FORM elements (input boxes, checks,...) into
any wiki platform. R-php, R-cgi or others now provide convenient
server sides. The aim is scarcely to teach R or statistical
procedures, but to help lay end users to reach transparent statistical
results without bothering who, or whether R, or how it is doing the
server side job.

Google docs' FORM file-type feeds result into a google spreadsheet.
If such a form and its result page could be implemented in a wiki page
side by side, with R functions support,  it is my dream.

Does anybody see a wiki page with an interacting input box? or with
javascript or any scripts to be collaborated in a wiki style?

Xiaoxu

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Ajay ohri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Tobias,

 It makes sense from a practical view point. SAS Institute funds its own wiki
 at www.sascommunity.org  The catch is they have editorial influence and can
 use offerings there for commercial purposes.


 The surprising thing is you can actually create a wiki in wikipedia itself.
 Just adopt a convention lets say Rproj for beginning of each wiki page.

 Note this would mean volunteers parsing the back and forth of messages into
 structure ( maybe it exists already)

 However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it gives
 you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
 kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its owned
 by Google , the big company.

 Other options from Google include Google Docs as well as Google Sites.You
 can even create bulk Google Docs from a writely email that your
 docs.google.com account gives you, and just last week someone created a
 Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to the Docs.

 As you may have noticed and I have pointed out once the R -project website
 itself is badly outdated compared to the software itself. The official R
 wiki  of course is here
 http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php

 So these are the options - noting that email groups are more easy to use and
  addictive , though not the best for collobrative knowledge storage over a
 period of time.

 Regards,

 Ajay

 www.decisionstats.com

 On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Verbeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various
 effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
 MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
 first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
 to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
 to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
 parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
 html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
 parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
 but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
 textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
 example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
 outputs.

 Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
 fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk my
 dream here rather than at wikipedia. If you know it had been a
 practice rather than an idea, please tell me where to write my
 teaching interface.

 Some have had similar dreams:

 http://ideas.repec.org/p/hum/wpaper/sfb649dp2008-030.html
 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Slides/Klinke.pdf

 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Abstracts/Klinke+Schmerbach+Troitschanskaia.pdf

 HTH,
 Tobias

 LI, Xiaoxu

 School of Arts and Social Sciences,
 Shenzhen Graduate School,
 Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
 China

 __
 R-help@r-project.org mailing list
 https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
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 --
 Regards,

 Ajay Ohri
 http://tinyurl.com/liajayohri




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Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-09-29 Thread Ajay ohri
just search for the Google Docs plugin on my website www.decisionstats.com ,
its either on page 1 or page 2

i just gave the idea , and voila, some one just wrote the code on this list





On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM, freerow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi ohri:

 Thanks for your introduction of knol. I am testing it now. I can't
 google out the Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to
 the Docs. Is it something like R(D)COM?

 My point is to adopt html FORM elements (input boxes, checks,...) into
 any wiki platform. R-php, R-cgi or others now provide convenient
 server sides. The aim is scarcely to teach R or statistical
 procedures, but to help lay end users to reach transparent statistical
 results without bothering who, or whether R, or how it is doing the
 server side job.

 Google docs' FORM file-type feeds result into a google spreadsheet.
 If such a form and its result page could be implemented in a wiki page
 side by side, with R functions support,  it is my dream.

 Does anybody see a wiki page with an interacting input box? or with
 javascript or any scripts to be collaborated in a wiki style?

 Xiaoxu

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Ajay ohri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Tobias,
 
  It makes sense from a practical view point. SAS Institute funds its own
 wiki
  at www.sascommunity.org  The catch is they have editorial influence and
 can
  use offerings there for commercial purposes.
 
 
  The surprising thing is you can actually create a wiki in wikipedia
 itself.
  Just adopt a convention lets say Rproj for beginning of each wiki page.
 
  Note this would mean volunteers parsing the back and forth of messages
 into
  structure ( maybe it exists already)
 
  However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it
 gives
  you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
  kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its
 owned
  by Google , the big company.
 
  Other options from Google include Google Docs as well as Google Sites.You
  can even create bulk Google Docs from a writely email that your
  docs.google.com account gives you, and just last week someone created a
  Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to the Docs.
 
  As you may have noticed and I have pointed out once the R -project
 website
  itself is badly outdated compared to the software itself. The official R
  wiki  of course is here
  http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php
 
  So these are the options - noting that email groups are more easy to use
 and
   addictive , though not the best for collobrative knowledge storage over
 a
  period of time.
 
  Regards,
 
  Ajay
 
  www.decisionstats.com
 
  On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Verbeke 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various
  effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
  MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
  first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
  to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
  to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
  parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
  html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
  parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
  but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
  textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
  example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
  outputs.
 
  Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
  fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk my
  dream here rather than at wikipedia. If you know it had been a
  practice rather than an idea, please tell me where to write my
  teaching interface.
 
  Some have had similar dreams:
 
  http://ideas.repec.org/p/hum/wpaper/sfb649dp2008-030.html
  http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Slides/Klinke.pdf
 
 
 http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Abstracts/Klinke+Schmerbach+Troitschanskaia.pdf
 
  HTH,
  Tobias
 
  LI, Xiaoxu
 
  School of Arts and Social Sciences,
  Shenzhen Graduate School,
  Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
  China
 
  __
  R-help@r-project.org mailing list
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  PLEASE do read the posting guide
  http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
  and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
 
 
 
  __
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  https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
  PLEASE do read the posting guide
  http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
  and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
 
 
 
  --
  Regards,
 
  Ajay Ohri
  http://tinyurl.com/liajayohri
 
 
 




-- 
Regards,

Ajay Ohri

Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-09-29 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
That's not the catch, the catch is that there is no editorial
control (for the lack of a better word) or quality control,
which allows every nincompoop to write authoritative knols
as evidenced on the web site. I am also quite sure that they
place and check cookies to increase their knowledge about users,
like they do with all their other web sites and chrome. (Not
that it bothers me much, personally...)

In any case, your elderly gynaecologist would like to be able to
look up the answers to fundamental before bothering the experts...

greetings, el


on 9/29/08 9:50 AM Ajay ohri said the following:

 However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it gives
 you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
 kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its owned
 by Google , the big company.

__
R-help@r-project.org mailing list
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PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.


Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-09-29 Thread Philippe Grosjean

Hello,

Just to add to what Ajay said: the http://wiki.r-project.org does not 
execute R code from within wiki pages. This is a choice for security 
reasons. However, there are ways to get R code from R wiki pages and run 
it in R: http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:misc:wikicode


Also, there is a discussion about integrating Sweave in wiki pages: 
http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=developers:latex2wiki.


If someone would like to start a teaching stats with R topic on the R 
wiki and organize a section for this, he is more than welcome to make a 
proposal (send it to me).


Best,

Philippe Grosjean

..°}))
 ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( (Prof. Philippe Grosjean
 ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( (Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems
 ) ) ) ) )   Mons-Hainaut University, Belgium
( ( ( ( (
..

Ajay ohri wrote:

Hi Tobias,

It makes sense from a practical view point. SAS Institute funds its own wiki
at www.sascommunity.org  The catch is they have editorial influence and can
use offerings there for commercial purposes.


The surprising thing is you can actually create a wiki in wikipedia itself.
Just adopt a convention lets say Rproj for beginning of each wiki page.

Note this would mean volunteers parsing the back and forth of messages into
structure ( maybe it exists already)

However  wikis are a bit outdated. The latest is knol.google.com as it gives
you the right to make document editable, or allow comments, or even what
kind of license you want content to be shared. The catch again is its owned
by Google , the big company.

Other options from Google include Google Docs as well as Google Sites.You
can even create bulk Google Docs from a writely email that your
docs.google.com account gives you, and just last week someone created a
Google Docs plugin for sending R output directly to the Docs.

As you may have noticed and I have pointed out once the R -project website
itself is badly outdated compared to the software itself. The official R
wiki  of course is here
http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php

So these are the options - noting that email groups are more easy to use and
 addictive , though not the best for collobrative knowledge storage over a
period of time.

Regards,

Ajay

www.decisionstats.com

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Verbeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


Hi,

I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various

effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
outputs.

Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk my
dream here rather than at wikipedia. If you know it had been a
practice rather than an idea, please tell me where to write my
teaching interface.


Some have had similar dreams:

http://ideas.repec.org/p/hum/wpaper/sfb649dp2008-030.html
http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Slides/Klinke.pdf

http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Abstracts/Klinke+Schmerbach+Troitschanskaia.pdf

HTH,
Tobias


LI, Xiaoxu

School of Arts and Social Sciences,
Shenzhen Graduate School,
Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
China

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Re: [R] Dream of a wiki GUI for R

2008-09-28 Thread Tobias Verbeke

Hi,


I am just writing a draft to introduce confidence intervals of various
effect sizes to my students. Surely, I'll recommend the package
MBESS in R. Currently, it means I have to recommend R's interface at
first. As a statistics teacher in a dept of psychology, I often have
to reply why not to teach SPSS. Psychologists and their students hate
to memorize codes, or even to call any function with a list of
parameters. I know if I have an online R platform with a wiki
html-form design, I can bypass the function calls and headache
parameters to expose the power of R. Rcmdr and its plugins help some,
but students like to remember just one menu structure in the SPSS
textbook. A wiki interface means they can search and find a complete
example in psychology, with self-explained parameter inputs and
outputs.

Do I actually dream a wikipedia with front forms and back R? Most R
fans are wiki fans, but not vice verse. So, I think I should talk my
dream here rather than at wikipedia. If you know it had been a
practice rather than an idea, please tell me where to write my
teaching interface.


Some have had similar dreams:

http://ideas.repec.org/p/hum/wpaper/sfb649dp2008-030.html
http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Slides/Klinke.pdf
http://www.r-project.org/user-2006/Abstracts/Klinke+Schmerbach+Troitschanskaia.pdf 



HTH,
Tobias


LI, Xiaoxu

School of Arts and Social Sciences,
Shenzhen Graduate School,
Peking Univ.(Shenzhen Campus)
China

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