Re: [R] tab characters

2009-01-30 Thread Marie Sivertsen
I see 'The R Inferno' being refered quiet often recently.  But it was now
pointed by Duncan Murdoch that for example the statement concerning
variables in a for loop is not correct in there (page 62).  As I can not
find any information about the book been reviewed by anyone I have a
question:  is it reliable resource for learning about R?  What is the
authority of Patrick Burns?  I would like to avoid spending much time on
learning from 'The R Inferno' to only later discover that it was wrong.

Mvh.
Marie



On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Patrick Burns pbu...@pburns.seanet.comwrote:

 'The R Inferno' pages 45-46.


 Patrick Burns
 patr...@burns-stat.com
 +44 (0)20 8525 0696
 http://www.burns-stat.com
 (home of The R Inferno and A Guide for the Unwilling S User)

 Nick Matzke wrote:

 Hi all,

 Working at the R command line, how do I get strings to display e.g. tab or
 newline characters as they should be displayed, rather than as e.g. \n or
 \t?

 e.g.:
  x=\t
  x=\t
  x
 [1] \t
  print(x)
 [1] \t


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Re: [R] tab characters

2009-01-30 Thread Duncan Murdoch

On 1/30/2009 7:19 AM, Marie Sivertsen wrote:

I see 'The R Inferno' being refered quiet often recently.  But it was now
pointed by Duncan Murdoch that for example the statement concerning
variables in a for loop is not correct in there (page 62).  As I can not
find any information about the book been reviewed by anyone I have a
question:  is it reliable resource for learning about R?  What is the
authority of Patrick Burns?  I would like to avoid spending much time on
learning from 'The R Inferno' to only later discover that it was wrong.


That's the first error I've seen in it.  In my opinion, it's a very 
useful reference.


Duncan Murdoch



Mvh.
Marie



On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Patrick Burns pbu...@pburns.seanet.comwrote:


'The R Inferno' pages 45-46.


Patrick Burns
patr...@burns-stat.com
+44 (0)20 8525 0696
http://www.burns-stat.com
(home of The R Inferno and A Guide for the Unwilling S User)

Nick Matzke wrote:


Hi all,

Working at the R command line, how do I get strings to display e.g. tab or
newline characters as they should be displayed, rather than as e.g. \n or
\t?

e.g.:
 x=\t
 x=\t
 x
[1] \t
 print(x)
[1] \t



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Re: [R] tab characters

2009-01-30 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Marie Sivertsen wrote:
 I see 'The R Inferno' being refered quiet often recently.  But it was now
 pointed by Duncan Murdoch that for example the statement concerning
 variables in a for loop is not correct in there (page 62).  As I can not
 find any information about the book been reviewed by anyone I have a
 question:  is it reliable resource for learning about R?  What is the
 authority of Patrick Burns?  I would like to avoid spending much time on
 learning from 'The R Inferno' to only later discover that it was wrong.


In short: Don't worry too much.

Pat is an experienced S and R user. In fact, he's been around since R
was little but a gleam in its fathers' eyes. He has a record of writing
stuff and publishing on the web, in a style somewhat different from what
the publishing companies seem to want. The R Inferno is his latest
addition, so he's liable to make a few Hey, I wrote about that kind of
posts.

A quick look suggest that this should be quite an amusing read, but it
isn't a textbook for beginners learning R. Rather, it is assumed that
you already know the basics, and now need to read about the pitfalls.
There could be inaccuracies (the for loop description is indeed mildly
off-base), but the intended audience can reasonably be assumed to
possess a critical mind. And the nice thing about web publications is
that mistakes can be fixed quickly.

-pd


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Re: [R] tab characters

2009-01-30 Thread Marie Sivertsen
Thank you both Peter and Duncan for explanations.  'The R Inferno' is indeed
not so much introduction but I find it useful to know about how I can go
wrong in simple things before I do.

Mvh.
Marie

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Peter Dalgaard p.dalga...@biostat.ku.dkwrote:

 Marie Sivertsen wrote:
  I see 'The R Inferno' being refered quiet often recently.  But it was now
  pointed by Duncan Murdoch that for example the statement concerning
  variables in a for loop is not correct in there (page 62).  As I can not
  find any information about the book been reviewed by anyone I have a
  question:  is it reliable resource for learning about R?  What is the
  authority of Patrick Burns?  I would like to avoid spending much time on
  learning from 'The R Inferno' to only later discover that it was wrong.


 In short: Don't worry too much.

 Pat is an experienced S and R user. In fact, he's been around since R
 was little but a gleam in its fathers' eyes. He has a record of writing
 stuff and publishing on the web, in a style somewhat different from what
 the publishing companies seem to want. The R Inferno is his latest
 addition, so he's liable to make a few Hey, I wrote about that kind of
 posts.

 A quick look suggest that this should be quite an amusing read, but it
 isn't a textbook for beginners learning R. Rather, it is assumed that
 you already know the basics, and now need to read about the pitfalls.
 There could be inaccuracies (the for loop description is indeed mildly
 off-base), but the intended audience can reasonably be assumed to
 possess a critical mind. And the nice thing about web publications is
 that mistakes can be fixed quickly.

 -pd



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Re: [R] tab characters

2009-01-29 Thread jim holtman
?cat

 x - '\t'
 print(x)
[1] \t
 cat(x)



On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Nick Matzke mat...@berkeley.edu wrote:
 Hi all,

 Working at the R command line, how do I get strings to display e.g. tab or
 newline characters as they should be displayed, rather than as e.g. \n or
 \t?

 e.g.:
 x=\t
 x=\t
 x
 [1] \t
 print(x)
 [1] \t

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