Re: [R-SIG-Mac] 2.10.0 beta help functions
On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: I just installed the nightly from r.research.att.com called R 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-13) for leopard using the pkg installer. When I use ?plot or help(plot) the help window opens, but is blank. And, I get this warning: ?plot Warning message: In help(plot, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html I know the help system has changed significantly in 2.10.0 and I apologize if it is poor form to report errors such as this while the still in the beta phase, To the contrary! The whole point of the beta phase is that it gets tested and all errors reported -- I'll look into this, thanks for the report. Cheers, Simon but my reliance on these help functions has prevented me from continuing to use the beta and test other changes. BTW thank you for the option, in the new installer, to only install the 64bit GUI version. Thank you, Peter ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] 2.10.0 beta help functions
On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Peter Cowan wrote: I just installed the nightly from r.research.att.com called R 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-13) for leopard using the pkg installer. When I use ?plot or help(plot) the help window opens, but is blank. And, I get this warning: ?plot Warning message: In help(plot, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html I know the help system has changed significantly in 2.10.0 and I apologize if it is poor form to report errors such as this while the still in the beta phase, but my reliance on these help functions has prevented me from continuing to use the beta and test other changes. BTW thank you for the option, in the new installer, to only install the 64bit GUI version. I can confirm the problem in a current download, which labels itself as 2.10.0 alpha (2009-10-08 r49995), R for Mac OS X GUI 1.30-devel Leopard build 32-bit. You can get to the help system by running help.start(), but internal requests like ?plot will still go to the internal browser, which isn't working. Thanks - I'll look into this. You can work around the bug by deleting the AQUA section of utils:::print.help_files_with_topic, e.g. by doing as follows: print.help_files_with_topic - utils:::print.help_files_with_topic and then deleting the lines if (.Platform$GUI == AQUA) { .Internal(aqua.custom.print(help-files, x)) return(invisible(x)) } from your copy of print.help_files_with_topic. One other problem with the installer: by default it installed both 32 and 64 bit versions, but R wouldn't start until I re-installed without the 64 bit version. I'm using Leopard 10.5.8 on an old Intel Core Duo Macbook. Can the installer detect that 64 bit executables are not supported, and not install it? It *is* checking the CPU and adjusting the installation accordingly, but there is some conflict in the automatically generated installer -- it's not present when I create the package manually so it will need some more investigation... Thanks, Simon ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
[R-SIG-Mac] tiff output on Mac
Dear R Mac folks, I have not seen a thread on this so I thought I would get some input regarding tiff output on a Mac. I am currently running OS 10.6.1 and R 2.9.2 GUI 1.29 Tiger build 32-bit (5464). I realize that the easiest way to save a plot is to select File, Save As. Which outputs a .pdf file. However, if I insert this graphic into Microsoft Word and send it to a friend on Windows the file gets mangled (the quality is decreased significantly). So I am working on just writing high quality tiff files which seem to display well all on both platforms. Tiffs also seems to be one of the preferred file types for many journals in my field. Here are the options I have found that work on Macs. # requires Ghostscript bitmap(file=MacTest.tiff, type = tifflzw, height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = in) plot(rpois(1:40,10)) dev.off() tiff('Mactest.tiff', width = 5, height = 5, units = 'in', res = 600) plot(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() quartz(height = 7, width = 7, type = 'tiff', file = 'MacTest.tiff',bg = 'white',dpi = 600) hist(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() hist(rpois(1:100,1)) # line are not all dark in output, not sure which tiff type to use... dev2bitmap(file = 'MacTest.tiff', type = 'tiff24nc', height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = 'in') I have noticed that for bitmap and tiff the font and symbol size seems to differ between the R session plot and the output plot. Are there other graphic output options that I am missing here? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance, Michael -- Michael Denslow Graduate Student I.W. Carpenter Jr. Herbarium [BOON] Department of Biology Appalachian State University Boone, North Carolina U.S.A. -- AND -- Communications Manager Southeast Regional Network of Expertise and Collections sernec.org ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] 2.10.0 beta help functions
Peter, On my system (SnowLeopard, below R builds) I did see the warning messages (but the internal help worked fine). This morning I changed the htmlhelp settings as suggested by the warning message ( help_type ='html' ) in main.m and rebuild R.app. The warnings are gone and help still works. Rob - R version 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-15 r50083) Copyright (C) 2009 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing ISBN 3-900051-07-0 ... [R.app GUI 1.30 (5495) x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0] [Workspace restored from /Users/rob/Projects/.RData] ?ls Warning message: In help(ls, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: I just installed the nightly from r.research.att.com called R 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-13) for leopard using the pkg installer. When I use ?plot or help(plot) the help window opens, but is blank. And, I get this warning: ?plot Warning message: In help(plot, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html I know the help system has changed significantly in 2.10.0 and I apologize if it is poor form to report errors such as this while the still in the beta phase, To the contrary! The whole point of the beta phase is that it gets tested and all errors reported -- I'll look into this, thanks for the report. Cheers, Simon but my reliance on these help functions has prevented me from continuing to use the beta and test other changes. BTW thank you for the option, in the new installer, to only install the 64bit GUI version. Thank you, Peter ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] 2.10.0 beta help functions
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Oct 15, 2009, at 16:01 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote: Hmm, I think you probably have pre-built html pages. Yes, that's likely. They used to be part of the installation but now are not. The fact that they are missing was useful to point out that I forgot to switch R.app from html to dynamic help (fixed now), but I was actually planning on keeping them installed for other software that relies on it (e.g. JGR). That will give those packages the chance to update until R 2.11.0. I am sure Simon knows this, but they are still optional (configure option --enable-prebuilt-html). More seriously, they are pretty much untested and I've fixed a couple of non-trivial bugs today (so the HTML files need to be regenerated). Also, I've just updated my checkout of the Mac-GUI project and rebuilt it, and whereas help() now works with dynamic help, help.search() still fails to find pages for packages not under the main library tree (print.hsearch in the Mac-GUI project needs updating). It's your prerogative to ship prebuilt HTML pages, but they are not going to be shipped on Windows, and not AFAIK on Linux binary builds, so a fair proportion of JGR users will want an update anyway. They just add to the size of the download and the vast majority of users will never access them. Brian Thanks, Simon I simply don't see any code that will generate them, either directly or by starting the httpd server to do so. I just did some quick experiments, and I get blank pages on packages without pre-built html, and correct ones on a package I just installed with 'R CMD INSTALL --html'. On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Rob Goedman wrote: Peter, On my system (SnowLeopard, below R builds) I did see the warning messages (but the internal help worked fine). This morning I changed the htmlhelp settings as suggested by the warning message ( help_type ='html' ) in main.m and rebuild R.app. The warnings are gone and help still works. Rob - R version 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-15 r50083) Copyright (C) 2009 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing ISBN 3-900051-07-0 ... [R.app GUI 1.30 (5495) x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0] [Workspace restored from /Users/rob/Projects/.RData] ?ls Warning message: In help(ls, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: I just installed the nightly from r.research.att.com called R 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-13) for leopard using the pkg installer. When I use ?plot or help(plot) the help window opens, but is blank. And, I get this warning: ?plot Warning message: In help(plot, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html I know the help system has changed significantly in 2.10.0 and I apologize if it is poor form to report errors such as this while the still in the beta phase, To the contrary! The whole point of the beta phase is that it gets tested and all errors reported -- I'll look into this, thanks for the report. Cheers, Simon but my reliance on these help functions has prevented me from continuing to use the beta and test other changes. BTW thank you for the option, in the new installer, to only install the 64bit GUI version. Thank you, Peter ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] tiff output on Mac
If you look at: ?png# you will see several other options I will say that the advice on that page to use capabilities() to determine which of these options is supported seems to be at least misleading in that tiff comes back FALSE but the tiff device accepts input without complaint and produces output that Preview.app reads. sessionInfo() R version 2.9.2 (2009-08-24) x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0 locale: en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base capabilities() jpeg png tifftcltk X11 aqua http/ftp sockets libxml fifo clediticonv NLS profmemcairo TRUE TRUEFALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUEFALSE TRUE tiff('Mactest.tiff', width = 5, height = 5, units = 'in', res = 600) plot(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() null device 1 # no errors, no problems viewing Another option, ... handle the translation to a tiff file by using Preview of hte saved pdf and then the Grab.app, or just Grab the quartz window. That method lets me minimize the white space in the margins. Tiff is the saved format from Grab. -- David. On Oct 15, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Michael Denslow wrote: Dear R Mac folks, I have not seen a thread on this so I thought I would get some input regarding tiff output on a Mac. I am currently running OS 10.6.1 and R 2.9.2 GUI 1.29 Tiger build 32- bit (5464). I realize that the easiest way to save a plot is to select File, Save As. Which outputs a .pdf file. However, if I insert this graphic into Microsoft Word and send it to a friend on Windows the file gets mangled (the quality is decreased significantly). So I am working on just writing high quality tiff files which seem to display well all on both platforms. Tiffs also seems to be one of the preferred file types for many journals in my field. Here are the options I have found that work on Macs. # requires Ghostscript bitmap(file=MacTest.tiff, type = tifflzw, height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = in) plot(rpois(1:40,10)) dev.off() tiff('Mactest.tiff', width = 5, height = 5, units = 'in', res = 600) plot(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() quartz(height = 7, width = 7, type = 'tiff', file = 'MacTest.tiff',bg = 'white',dpi = 600) hist(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() hist(rpois(1:100,1)) # line are not all dark in output, not sure which tiff type to use... dev2bitmap(file = 'MacTest.tiff', type = 'tiff24nc', height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = 'in') I have noticed that for bitmap and tiff the font and symbol size seems to differ between the R session plot and the output plot. Are there other graphic output options that I am missing here? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance, Michael -- Michael Denslow Graduate Student I.W. Carpenter Jr. Herbarium [BOON] Department of Biology Appalachian State University Boone, North Carolina U.S.A. -- AND -- Communications Manager Southeast Regional Network of Expertise and Collections sernec.org ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac David Winsemius, MD Heritage Laboratories West Hartford, CT ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] 2.10.0 beta help functions
On Oct 15, 2009, at 17:00 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Oct 15, 2009, at 16:01 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote: Hmm, I think you probably have pre-built html pages. Yes, that's likely. They used to be part of the installation but now are not. The fact that they are missing was useful to point out that I forgot to switch R.app from html to dynamic help (fixed now), but I was actually planning on keeping them installed for other software that relies on it (e.g. JGR). That will give those packages the chance to update until R 2.11.0. I am sure Simon knows this, but they are still optional (configure option --enable-prebuilt-html). More seriously, they are pretty much untested and I've fixed a couple of non-trivial bugs today (so the HTML files need to be regenerated). Also, I've just updated my checkout of the Mac-GUI project and rebuilt it, and whereas help() now works with dynamic help, help.search() still fails to find pages for packages not under the main library tree (print.hsearch in the Mac-GUI project needs updating). Ok, updated (it wasn't the most beautiful piece of code before and it's not now but it might work). It's your prerogative to ship prebuilt HTML pages, but they are not going to be shipped on Windows, and not AFAIK on Linux binary builds, so a fair proportion of JGR users will want an update anyway. They just add to the size of the download and the vast majority of users will never access them. Oh, ok -- I thought we agreed to keep them in binary distributions until 2.11, but if Windows doesn't ship them then there is no point, indeed... Thanks, Simon Brian Thanks, Simon I simply don't see any code that will generate them, either directly or by starting the httpd server to do so. I just did some quick experiments, and I get blank pages on packages without pre-built html, and correct ones on a package I just installed with 'R CMD INSTALL --html'. On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Rob Goedman wrote: Peter, On my system (SnowLeopard, below R builds) I did see the warning messages (but the internal help worked fine). This morning I changed the htmlhelp settings as suggested by the warning message ( help_type ='html' ) in main.m and rebuild R.app. The warnings are gone and help still works. Rob - R version 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-15 r50083) Copyright (C) 2009 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing ISBN 3-900051-07-0 ... [R.app GUI 1.30 (5495) x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0] [Workspace restored from /Users/rob/Projects/.RData] ?ls Warning message: In help(ls, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: I just installed the nightly from r.research.att.com called R 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-13) for leopard using the pkg installer. When I use ?plot or help(plot) the help window opens, but is blank. And, I get this warning: ?plot Warning message: In help(plot, package = NULL) : htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type =html I know the help system has changed significantly in 2.10.0 and I apologize if it is poor form to report errors such as this while the still in the beta phase, To the contrary! The whole point of the beta phase is that it gets tested and all errors reported -- I'll look into this, thanks for the report. Cheers, Simon but my reliance on these help functions has prevented me from continuing to use the beta and test other changes. BTW thank you for the option, in the new installer, to only install the 64bit GUI version. Thank you, Peter ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] tiff output on Mac
On Oct 15, 2009, at 13:08 , Michael Denslow wrote: Dear R Mac folks, I have not seen a thread on this so I thought I would get some input regarding tiff output on a Mac. I am currently running OS 10.6.1 and R 2.9.2 GUI 1.29 Tiger build 32- bit (5464). I realize that the easiest way to save a plot is to select File, Save As. Which outputs a .pdf file. However, if I insert this graphic into Microsoft Word and send it to a friend on Windows the file gets mangled (the quality is decreased significantly). So I am working on just writing high quality tiff files which seem to display well all on both platforms. Tiffs also seems to be one of the preferred file types for many journals in my field. PNG is the format of choice these days and better supported in general. TIFF is more rare, but there is some support. If you want 1:1 result of what you see in the Quartz window then the best way is to use quartz.save() as it maintains sizes to produce WYSIWYG results, e.g: quartz.save(foo.tif,tiff,dpi=600) Cheers, Simon Here are the options I have found that work on Macs. # requires Ghostscript bitmap(file=MacTest.tiff, type = tifflzw, height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = in) plot(rpois(1:40,10)) dev.off() tiff('Mactest.tiff', width = 5, height = 5, units = 'in', res = 600) plot(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() quartz(height = 7, width = 7, type = 'tiff', file = 'MacTest.tiff',bg = 'white',dpi = 600) hist(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() hist(rpois(1:100,1)) # line are not all dark in output, not sure which tiff type to use... dev2bitmap(file = 'MacTest.tiff', type = 'tiff24nc', height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = 'in') I have noticed that for bitmap and tiff the font and symbol size seems to differ between the R session plot and the output plot. Are there other graphic output options that I am missing here? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance, Michael -- Michael Denslow Graduate Student I.W. Carpenter Jr. Herbarium [BOON] Department of Biology Appalachian State University Boone, North Carolina U.S.A. -- AND -- Communications Manager Southeast Regional Network of Expertise and Collections sernec.org ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] tiff output
Personally I'd actually recommend saving the graphic in whatever is the highest-quality format you can, then open it in GraphicConverter and use that app to save a copy in tiff format. It is a shame that there's still no tiff file tool in R (rtiff is old, bonged up, and ugly :-( ). Matlab and GraphicConverter (and I believe GIMP) have no problem opening converting tiffs. We just need some energetic R-fan to code up a tool. r-sig-mac-requ...@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:08:19 -0400 From: Michael Denslow michael.dens...@gmail.com Subject: [R-SIG-Mac] tiff output on Mac To: r-sig-mac@stat.math.ethz.ch Message-ID: b440a3f80910151008k1f931e10u7f5e9c6081c5a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear R Mac folks, I have not seen a thread on this so I thought I would get some input regarding tiff output on a Mac. Here are the options I have found that work on Macs. # requires Ghostscript bitmap(file=MacTest.tiff, type = tifflzw, height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = in) plot(rpois(1:40,10)) dev.off() tiff('Mactest.tiff', width = 5, height = 5, units = 'in', res = 600) plot(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() quartz(height = 7, width = 7, type = 'tiff', file = 'MacTest.tiff',bg = 'white',dpi = 600) hist(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() hist(rpois(1:100,1)) # line are not all dark in output, not sure which tiff type to use... dev2bitmap(file = 'MacTest.tiff', type = 'tiff24nc', height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = 'in') I have noticed that for bitmap and tiff the font and symbol size seems to differ between the R session plot and the output plot. Are there other graphic output options that I am missing here? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance, Michael ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] tiff output on Mac
Dear R Mac folks, I have not seen a thread on this so I thought I would get some input regarding tiff output on a Mac. I am currently running OS 10.6.1 and R 2.9.2 GUI 1.29 Tiger build 32-bit (5464). I realize that the easiest way to save a plot is to select File, Save As. Which outputs a .pdf file. However, if I insert this graphic into Microsoft Word and send it to a friend on Windows the file gets mangled (the quality is decreased significantly). So I am working on just writing high quality tiff files which seem to display well all on both platforms. Tiffs also seems to be one of the preferred file types for many journals in my field. PNG is the format of choice these days and better supported in general. TIFF is more rare, but there is some support. If you want 1:1 result of what you see in the Quartz window then the best way is to use quartz.save() as it maintains sizes to produce WYSIWYG results, e.g: quartz.save(foo.tif,tiff,dpi=600) Cheers, Simon Thank you David and Simon, This is very helpful. I was not aware of quartz.save() or the Grab utility. Also I will have another look at the png format. Michael Here are the options I have found that work on Macs. # requires Ghostscript bitmap(file=MacTest.tiff, type = tifflzw, height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = in) plot(rpois(1:40,10)) dev.off() tiff('Mactest.tiff', width = 5, height = 5, units = 'in', res = 600) plot(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() quartz(height = 7, width = 7, type = 'tiff', file = 'MacTest.tiff',bg = 'white',dpi = 600) hist(rpois(1:100,1)) dev.off() hist(rpois(1:100,1)) # line are not all dark in output, not sure which tiff type to use... dev2bitmap(file = 'MacTest.tiff', type = 'tiff24nc', height = 7, width = 7, res = 600, units = 'in') I have noticed that for bitmap and tiff the font and symbol size seems to differ between the R session plot and the output plot. Are there other graphic output options that I am missing here? Any tips would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance, -- Michael Denslow Graduate Student I.W. Carpenter Jr. Herbarium [BOON] Department of Biology Appalachian State University Boone, North Carolina U.S.A. -- AND -- Communications Manager Southeast Regional Network of Expertise and Collections sernec.org ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac