Re: [racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-06-02 Thread Philip McGrath
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:48 PM Sam Tobin-Hochstadt 
wrote:

> (define (f [x : Number] . [y : String *]) : Number (+ x (length y)))
>

 Another way to write this, which I often prefer, is:

> (: f (-> Number String * Number))
> (define (f x . y)
>   (+ x (length y)))
>

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Re: [racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-06-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 10:28:55PM -0500, Shu-Hung You wrote:
> FWIW, because `.` is just cons, the program
> (define (F [X : T1] . [Y : T2]) 'e)
> is being read as:
> (define (F [X : T1] Y : T2) 'e)
> I guess that's the reason for having an extra '*' in the syntax.

Indeed.  It works for untyped Racket, but in typed Racket that notation 
would become quite ambiguous.

-- hendrik

> 
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:16 PM Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
>  wrote:
> >
> > The syntax looks like this:
> >
> > (define (f [x : Number] . [y : String *]) : Number (+ x (length y)))
> >
> > See the documentation for `define` in Typed Racket here:
> > https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/special-forms.html?q=define#%28form._%28%28lib._typed-racket%2Fbase-env%2Fprims..rkt%29._define%29%29
> > in particular the `rst` production.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 10:58:09AM -0400, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> > > > Do you perhaps have some other binding shadowing the binding of `:`
> > > > from Typed Racket? That produces the error message you get when I try
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > Not intentionally.  I'll have to look carefully for possible candidates.
> > > Or ask DrRacket to jump to a binding occurrence.
> > >
> > > Did that:  It wouldn't find a bining instance while that colon was
> > > there, but complained about the syntax error I was sompaining about.
> > > But when I removed the type specification from the let-clause and
> > > introuced a colon elsewhere in the function as an extra parameter in
> > > another expression, it would find the binding.  It turned out that the
> > > binding occurrence was the colon in the tail-parameter [args : T-Size].
> > >
> > > So I have to ask, what *is* the proper way to indicate that the
> > > function can be called with many more parameters, which are to be
> > > made available as a list?
> > >
> > > Thank you for the hint.
> > >
> > > -- hendrik
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sam
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:32 PM Hendrik Boom  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry to keep pestering this list, but I'm out of my depth with 
> > > > > the
> > > > > detailed syntax (and semantics) of typed Racket.  But I'm doggedly
> > > > > ploughing on.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm having trouble with the 'let' line in the 'pointer-to' function 
> > > > > listed later:
> > > > >
> > > > > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > > > > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, there's an unbalanced parenthesis because this sin't the end of 
> > > > > the let-expression.
> > > > >
> > > > > The error message is
> > > > >
> > > > >  let: expected type-annotated identifier
> > > > >   parsing context:
> > > > >while parsing annotated-binding
> > > > >while parsing optionally type-annotated binding in: (vt : Ffi-type 
> > > > > (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector type #f) 
> > > > > Ffi-type))
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't see the error.  'vt : Ffi-type' looks like a type-annotated
> > > > > identifier to me.  And it seems to have the right number of 
> > > > > parentheses
> > > > > in front of it, followed by an expression whose vlue is to be bound to
> > > > > 'vt'.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the function it's part of:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (define (pointer-to [type : T-Type] . [args : T-Size]) : T-Type ; 
> > > > > TODO: rename args to size-args
> > > > >   (if (and (equal? args '(1)) (not (eq? type '_void)))
> > > > > (mode-dependent-type
> > > > >   `(_ptr i ,type) `(_ptr o ,type))
> > > > > (case type
> > > > >   ((_void) '_pointer/intptr)
> > > > >   ((_byte _uint8) (mode-dependent-type
> > > > > '_string*/utf-8
> > > > > (if (null? args)
> > > > >   '_bytes
> > > > >   `(_bytes o ,@ args
> > > > >   (else
> > > > > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > > > > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> > > > >   (if vt
> > > > > (mode-dependent-type
> > > > >   `(,vt i)
> > > > >   (if (null? args)
> > > > > vt
> > > > > `(,vt o ,@ args)))
> > > > > (mode-dependent-type
> > > > >   `(_vector i ,type)
> > > > >   (if (null? args)
> > > > > '_pointer
> > > > > `(_vector o ,type ,@ args)
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Re: [racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-06-01 Thread Shu-Hung You
FWIW, because `.` is just cons, the program
(define (F [X : T1] . [Y : T2]) 'e)
is being read as:
(define (F [X : T1] Y : T2) 'e)
I guess that's the reason for having an extra '*' in the syntax.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:16 PM Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
 wrote:
>
> The syntax looks like this:
>
> (define (f [x : Number] . [y : String *]) : Number (+ x (length y)))
>
> See the documentation for `define` in Typed Racket here:
> https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/special-forms.html?q=define#%28form._%28%28lib._typed-racket%2Fbase-env%2Fprims..rkt%29._define%29%29
> in particular the `rst` production.
>
> Sam
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 10:58:09AM -0400, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> > > Do you perhaps have some other binding shadowing the binding of `:`
> > > from Typed Racket? That produces the error message you get when I try
> > > it.
> >
> > Not intentionally.  I'll have to look carefully for possible candidates.
> > Or ask DrRacket to jump to a binding occurrence.
> >
> > Did that:  It wouldn't find a bining instance while that colon was
> > there, but complained about the syntax error I was sompaining about.
> > But when I removed the type specification from the let-clause and
> > introuced a colon elsewhere in the function as an extra parameter in
> > another expression, it would find the binding.  It turned out that the
> > binding occurrence was the colon in the tail-parameter [args : T-Size].
> >
> > So I have to ask, what *is* the proper way to indicate that the
> > function can be called with many more parameters, which are to be
> > made available as a list?
> >
> > Thank you for the hint.
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
> > >
> > > Sam
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:32 PM Hendrik Boom  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry to keep pestering this list, but I'm out of my depth with the
> > > > detailed syntax (and semantics) of typed Racket.  But I'm doggedly
> > > > ploughing on.
> > > >
> > > > I'm having trouble with the 'let' line in the 'pointer-to' function 
> > > > listed later:
> > > >
> > > > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > > > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there's an unbalanced parenthesis because this sin't the end of 
> > > > the let-expression.
> > > >
> > > > The error message is
> > > >
> > > >  let: expected type-annotated identifier
> > > >   parsing context:
> > > >while parsing annotated-binding
> > > >while parsing optionally type-annotated binding in: (vt : Ffi-type 
> > > > (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector type #f) 
> > > > Ffi-type))
> > > >
> > > > I can't see the error.  'vt : Ffi-type' looks like a type-annotated
> > > > identifier to me.  And it seems to have the right number of parentheses
> > > > in front of it, followed by an expression whose vlue is to be bound to
> > > > 'vt'.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the function it's part of:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (define (pointer-to [type : T-Type] . [args : T-Size]) : T-Type ; TODO: 
> > > > rename args to size-args
> > > >   (if (and (equal? args '(1)) (not (eq? type '_void)))
> > > > (mode-dependent-type
> > > >   `(_ptr i ,type) `(_ptr o ,type))
> > > > (case type
> > > >   ((_void) '_pointer/intptr)
> > > >   ((_byte _uint8) (mode-dependent-type
> > > > '_string*/utf-8
> > > > (if (null? args)
> > > >   '_bytes
> > > >   `(_bytes o ,@ args
> > > >   (else
> > > > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > > > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> > > >   (if vt
> > > > (mode-dependent-type
> > > >   `(,vt i)
> > > >   (if (null? args)
> > > > vt
> > > > `(,vt o ,@ args)))
> > > > (mode-dependent-type
> > > >   `(_vector i ,type)
> > > >   (if (null? args)
> > > > '_pointer
> > > > `(_vector o ,type ,@ args)
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Re: [racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-06-01 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
The syntax looks like this:

(define (f [x : Number] . [y : String *]) : Number (+ x (length y)))

See the documentation for `define` in Typed Racket here:
https://docs.racket-lang.org/ts-reference/special-forms.html?q=define#%28form._%28%28lib._typed-racket%2Fbase-env%2Fprims..rkt%29._define%29%29
in particular the `rst` production.

Sam

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Hendrik Boom  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 10:58:09AM -0400, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> > Do you perhaps have some other binding shadowing the binding of `:`
> > from Typed Racket? That produces the error message you get when I try
> > it.
>
> Not intentionally.  I'll have to look carefully for possible candidates.
> Or ask DrRacket to jump to a binding occurrence.
>
> Did that:  It wouldn't find a bining instance while that colon was
> there, but complained about the syntax error I was sompaining about.
> But when I removed the type specification from the let-clause and
> introuced a colon elsewhere in the function as an extra parameter in
> another expression, it would find the binding.  It turned out that the
> binding occurrence was the colon in the tail-parameter [args : T-Size].
>
> So I have to ask, what *is* the proper way to indicate that the
> function can be called with many more parameters, which are to be
> made available as a list?
>
> Thank you for the hint.
>
> -- hendrik
>
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:32 PM Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sorry to keep pestering this list, but I'm out of my depth with the
> > > detailed syntax (and semantics) of typed Racket.  But I'm doggedly
> > > ploughing on.
> > >
> > > I'm having trouble with the 'let' line in the 'pointer-to' function 
> > > listed later:
> > >
> > > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> > >
> > > Yes, there's an unbalanced parenthesis because this sin't the end of the 
> > > let-expression.
> > >
> > > The error message is
> > >
> > >  let: expected type-annotated identifier
> > >   parsing context:
> > >while parsing annotated-binding
> > >while parsing optionally type-annotated binding in: (vt : Ffi-type 
> > > (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector type #f) 
> > > Ffi-type))
> > >
> > > I can't see the error.  'vt : Ffi-type' looks like a type-annotated
> > > identifier to me.  And it seems to have the right number of parentheses
> > > in front of it, followed by an expression whose vlue is to be bound to
> > > 'vt'.
> > >
> > > Here's the function it's part of:
> > >
> > >
> > > (define (pointer-to [type : T-Type] . [args : T-Size]) : T-Type ; TODO: 
> > > rename args to size-args
> > >   (if (and (equal? args '(1)) (not (eq? type '_void)))
> > > (mode-dependent-type
> > >   `(_ptr i ,type) `(_ptr o ,type))
> > > (case type
> > >   ((_void) '_pointer/intptr)
> > >   ((_byte _uint8) (mode-dependent-type
> > > '_string*/utf-8
> > > (if (null? args)
> > >   '_bytes
> > >   `(_bytes o ,@ args
> > >   (else
> > > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> > >   (if vt
> > > (mode-dependent-type
> > >   `(,vt i)
> > >   (if (null? args)
> > > vt
> > > `(,vt o ,@ args)))
> > > (mode-dependent-type
> > >   `(_vector i ,type)
> > >   (if (null? args)
> > > '_pointer
> > > `(_vector o ,type ,@ args)
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Re: [racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-06-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 10:58:09AM -0400, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> Do you perhaps have some other binding shadowing the binding of `:`
> from Typed Racket? That produces the error message you get when I try
> it.

Not intentionally.  I'll have to look carefully for possible candidates.
Or ask DrRacket to jump to a binding occurrence.

Did that:  It wouldn't find a bining instance while that colon was 
there, but complained about the syntax error I was sompaining about.
But when I removed the type specification from the let-clause and 
introuced a colon elsewhere in the function as an extra parameter in 
another expression, it would find the binding.  It turned out that the 
binding occurrence was the colon in the tail-parameter [args : T-Size].

So I have to ask, what *is* the proper way to indicate that the 
function can be called with many more parameters, which are to be 
made available as a list?

Thank you for the hint.

-- hendrik

> 
> Sam
> 
> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:32 PM Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry to keep pestering this list, but I'm out of my depth with the
> > detailed syntax (and semantics) of typed Racket.  But I'm doggedly
> > ploughing on.
> >
> > I'm having trouble with the 'let' line in the 'pointer-to' function listed 
> > later:
> >
> > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> >
> > Yes, there's an unbalanced parenthesis because this sin't the end of the 
> > let-expression.
> >
> > The error message is
> >
> >  let: expected type-annotated identifier
> >   parsing context:
> >while parsing annotated-binding
> >while parsing optionally type-annotated binding in: (vt : Ffi-type (cast 
> > ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type))
> >
> > I can't see the error.  'vt : Ffi-type' looks like a type-annotated
> > identifier to me.  And it seems to have the right number of parentheses
> > in front of it, followed by an expression whose vlue is to be bound to
> > 'vt'.
> >
> > Here's the function it's part of:
> >
> >
> > (define (pointer-to [type : T-Type] . [args : T-Size]) : T-Type ; TODO: 
> > rename args to size-args
> >   (if (and (equal? args '(1)) (not (eq? type '_void)))
> > (mode-dependent-type
> >   `(_ptr i ,type) `(_ptr o ,type))
> > (case type
> >   ((_void) '_pointer/intptr)
> >   ((_byte _uint8) (mode-dependent-type
> > '_string*/utf-8
> > (if (null? args)
> >   '_bytes
> >   `(_bytes o ,@ args
> >   (else
> > (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> > type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
> >   (if vt
> > (mode-dependent-type
> >   `(,vt i)
> >   (if (null? args)
> > vt
> > `(,vt o ,@ args)))
> > (mode-dependent-type
> >   `(_vector i ,type)
> >   (if (null? args)
> > '_pointer
> > `(_vector o ,type ,@ args)
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Re: [racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-06-01 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
Do you perhaps have some other binding shadowing the binding of `:`
from Typed Racket? That produces the error message you get when I try
it.

Sam

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:32 PM Hendrik Boom  wrote:
>
> I'm sorry to keep pestering this list, but I'm out of my depth with the
> detailed syntax (and semantics) of typed Racket.  But I'm doggedly
> ploughing on.
>
> I'm having trouble with the 'let' line in the 'pointer-to' function listed 
> later:
>
> (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector 
> type #f) Ffi-type)])
>
> Yes, there's an unbalanced parenthesis because this sin't the end of the 
> let-expression.
>
> The error message is
>
>  let: expected type-annotated identifier
>   parsing context:
>while parsing annotated-binding
>while parsing optionally type-annotated binding in: (vt : Ffi-type (cast 
> ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type))
>
> I can't see the error.  'vt : Ffi-type' looks like a type-annotated
> identifier to me.  And it seems to have the right number of parentheses
> in front of it, followed by an expression whose vlue is to be bound to
> 'vt'.
>
> Here's the function it's part of:
>
>
> (define (pointer-to [type : T-Type] . [args : T-Size]) : T-Type ; TODO: 
> rename args to size-args
>   (if (and (equal? args '(1)) (not (eq? type '_void)))
> (mode-dependent-type
>   `(_ptr i ,type) `(_ptr o ,type))
> (case type
>   ((_void) '_pointer/intptr)
>   ((_byte _uint8) (mode-dependent-type
> '_string*/utf-8
> (if (null? args)
>   '_bytes
>   `(_bytes o ,@ args
>   (else
> (let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
> type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
>   (if vt
> (mode-dependent-type
>   `(,vt i)
>   (if (null? args)
> vt
> `(,vt o ,@ args)))
> (mode-dependent-type
>   `(_vector i ,type)
>   (if (null? args)
> '_pointer
> `(_vector o ,type ,@ args)
>
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[racket-users] syntax woe with typed Racket 'let'

2020-05-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'm sorry to keep pestering this list, but I'm out of my depth with the 
detailed syntax (and semantics) of typed Racket.  But I'm doggedly 
ploughing on.

I'm having trouble with the 'let' line in the 'pointer-to' function listed 
later:

(let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector 
type #f) Ffi-type)])

Yes, there's an unbalanced parenthesis because this sin't the end of the 
let-expression.

The error message is

 let: expected type-annotated identifier
  parsing context: 
   while parsing annotated-binding
   while parsing optionally type-annotated binding in: (vt : Ffi-type (cast 
((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type))

I can't see the error.  'vt : Ffi-type' looks like a type-annotated 
identifier to me.  And it seems to have the right number of parentheses 
in front of it, followed by an expression whose vlue is to be bound to 
'vt'.

Here's the function it's part of:


(define (pointer-to [type : T-Type] . [args : T-Size]) : T-Type ; TODO: rename 
args to size-args
  (if (and (equal? args '(1)) (not (eq? type '_void)))
(mode-dependent-type
  `(_ptr i ,type) `(_ptr o ,type))
(case type
  ((_void) '_pointer/intptr)
  ((_byte _uint8) (mode-dependent-type 
'_string*/utf-8 
(if (null? args)
  '_bytes
  `(_bytes o ,@ args
  (else
(let ([vt : Ffi-type (cast ((inst hash-ref Ffi-type Ffi-type) 
type-to-vector type #f) Ffi-type)])
  (if vt
(mode-dependent-type
  `(,vt i)
  (if (null? args) 
vt
`(,vt o ,@ args))) 
(mode-dependent-type
  `(_vector i ,type)
  (if (null? args) 
'_pointer
`(_vector o ,type ,@ args)

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