[recoznet2] Letters to the editor (extract)

2000-05-21 Thread Trudy Rod Bray

The Sydney Morning Herald
Letters: Playing semantics with organised brutality 

Date: 22/05/2000

Former Aboriginal affairs minister Mr Peter Howson's persistent and
vitriolic attacks on the Bringing them Home report and one of its
authors, Sir Ronald Wilson, is unacceptable.

Mr Howson has mounted a campaign against the report into the forced
removal of indigenous children from their families - denigrating
Sir Ronald, questioning the validity of the report and falsely claiming
former administrators were blocked from giving evidence. He
should be aware that the inquiry was advertised widely and that no-one
was prevented from giving evidence. 

In fact, one former senior public servant from Queensland, believed to
have crucial evidence about the policies of removing children, had
to be requested formally to attend because he was reluctant to front the
inquiry.

On another occasion, Sir Ronald drove to the house of a former
administrator from Carnarvon, now living outside Melbourne, to take
evidence on a small tape recorder in the man's lounge room. The witness
was too frail to come to a hearing.

Furthermore, it is ludicrous for Mr Howson to claim welfare officers
were convicted without trial. The inquiry was not, and never
purported to be, a "trial".

No individual welfare officer was singled out but, more importantly, the
governments which were in fact the employers of these welfare
and other officers, all gave evidence to the inquiry of their policies
and practices of the time.

The report acknowledges that some children were voluntarily surrendered
to the welfare system by their parents, but the overwhelming
amount of evidence suggests the removals in many circumstances were
forced.

The inquiry was conducted on behalf of the Human Rights and Equal
Opportunity Commission and the commission stands by the report
and its findings.

The relationship between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians has
moved on considerably since the years when Mr Howson was
Aboriginal affairs minister. Both sides of politics accept that the
forced removal of indigenous Australians is a dark stain on our history. 

It is regrettable that Mr Howson cannot accept this also, and move on in
a spirit of acknowledgment and reconciliation.

Professor Alice Tay, President, HREOC, Chris Sidoti, Human Rights
Commissioner, Dr Bill Jonas, Aboriginal and Torres
Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner, Susan Halliday, Sex
Discrimination Commissioner, Sydney.

Allan Passmore (Letters, May 17) falsely accused Robert Manne (Herald,
May 15) of equating the Holocaust with Australia's treatment
of Aborigines. 

Even so, to deprive Aborigines of land and livelihood was an
anti-decimate act (where not 10 per cent died, but only 10 per cent
survived), and is surely genocide.

If white Zimbabwean farmers were forced from their homes and
livelihoods, denied refuge, employment, or safe haven, and only 10 per
cent survived, would Mr Passmore blame "misguided state policies which
were intended to be benevolent"?

Like Sir Ronald Wilson, Robert Manne is not one of Paddy McGuiness's
left-wing do-gooding elitists. 

They prove that reconciliation need not be politicised, and offend some
by injecting facts into the sloganeering that currently passes for
debate.

Dr L.R.Devine, Mallabula.

Mr Passmore is fed up. So am I. However, I'm fed up with opinionated
correspondents such as Mr Passmore who refuse to
acknowledge (or read) documented fact.

Genocide is genocide just as a spade is a spade.

The actions of Lieutenant Governor Arthur in Tasmania with his 2,000
troops in the early 1830s. The history of punitive expeditions
from Governor Phillip in 1790 to the last official expedition lead by
Constable Murray in 1928, known as the Coniston Massacre. The
process of forced assimilation with the intent of extinguishing the
various indigenous cultures (the recent history of the stolen
generations).

These and many other official acts were not misguided state policies
intended to be benevolent. These official acts were acts of genocide,
as defined by the UN and any dictionary you care to consult.

A sincere apology to the indigenous people of Australia (including the
"s" word) is not a large price to pay for this great land of ours.

Jason Leske, Marrickville.

Rob Jackson is wrong to claim an apology to indigenous Australians is an
apology for being white (Letters, May 17).

It is true that neither he nor his direct ancestors committed the
atrocities. But he misses the crucial distinction between guilt and
shame.

Likewise I feel no personal guilt for what was done to indigenous
Australians. But I do belong to the white tribe and this greatly affects
my personal identity and self-esteem.

I feel entitled to take pride in the achievement of past generations of
my tribe. But I also have to acknowledge that some members of my
tribe behaved destructively toward indigenous Australians. Basic
standards of decency were violated, and I belong to the tribe that 

[recoznet2] Letters to the editor (extract)

2000-05-10 Thread Trudy Rod Bray

The Sydney Morning Herald
Letters: A divisive voice from the past 

Date: 11/05/2000

Peter Howson, who was minister for Aboriginal affairs in 1971-72, should
of all people understand why there should be an apology for
past injustices to Aborigines (Herald, May 10). 

As a minister, he must have been involved in many negotiations. An
apology, in this case, is the beginning of sincere negotiations or
reconciliation. It is the "peace pipe" between white Australians and
Aborigines. 

Where are Peter Howson's statistical samples that "the majority of
Australians are opposed" to an apology? Did he ask 50 people in a
shopping centre on a busy Saturday morning?

And is this the same "majority" that endorsed John Howard's GST and now
is nowhere to be seen? 

There will never be reconciliation with the Aborigines as long as people
think along the same lines as Peter Howson, who advises us "to
forget the childish demands for apologies".

If childishness is the trait attributed to compassionate people who
demand an apology, then pitilessness must be the trait attributed to the
non-apologists such as Peter Howson.

Vincent Scoppa, Leichhardt.

And so from the primordial sludge crawls Peter Howson, displaying all
the acumen one would expect from a second-string minister in the
McMahon government.

His bitter diatribe has it all: gross paternalism (those who favour an
apology are "childish"), underlying racism (the "barbarism" of some
Aboriginal communities), bizarre unsubstantiated claims (that land
rights cause deprivation, and that support for Aboriginal languages
causes illiteracy), support for the Howard position that all (non-white)
symbolism is humbug, and endorsement of good old-fashioned
assimilationism (Aboriginal people should be moved out of "traditional"
communities and policed more closely - apparently the mission
system is not "outdated" in Howson's view).

Most incredible is the claim that the urbanisation and Christianity of a
significant proportion of Aboriginal people are evidence of
"assimilation". Thus Howson declares that Australia was terra ferme
nullius, the indigenous population consisting of a rump of heathens
wandering in the hinterland. 

In fact, Aboriginal people were everywhere, including where whites chose
to found cities. We were here, and we remain here.

This man held responsibility for the (then) newly granted Commonwealth
powers concerning Aboriginal affairs. In itself, that is a striking
illustration of what Aboriginal people have had to endure from past
governments.

Wylie Bradford,Bondi Beach.

Why does Peter Howson appear to feel it's an either/or situation?
Offering an apology does not preclude also offering better employment
and educational opportunities.

Jack Spiegel, St Leonards.

Unwittingly Hugh Mackay, in bagging Prime Minister John Howard in his
usual inimitable style (Herald, May 6), gave support and
authority to the PM's stance on that apology.

"A Howard apology would lack integrity," he proclaimed, apparently
failing to understand this is the very factor governing the Howard
refusal to apologise - and the very factor which governs the refusal of
a majority of Australians to do so.

None of us can bear anybody else's pain or their guilt and each one of
us can apologise only for oneself.

Equally, it lacks integrity to apologise for something we did not do. It
is facile to profess otherwise.

Hopefully, having achieved reconciliation with the Prime Minister on
that issue, Hugh Mackay may now move on.

Ron Elphick, Buff Point.

A reconciliation document agreed between the Australian Government and
the Aboriginal people must surely include an apology from
Australia to the stolen generations. In response from the Aboriginal
side, this would require an article similar to Article 19 of the San
Francisco Peace Treaty signed between Allied powers and Japan (1951) in
which the Japanese Government gave away the right to
demand compensation for the survivors of the atomic bombings.

For the stolen generations this would not preclude the assistance they
need.

Oliver Howes, Wollstonecraft.

Geoff Clark's article about reconciliation (Herald, May 8) brings out
some interesting points about the Prime Minister's mind-set on "true
reconciliation with the Aboriginal people of Australia". As the PM's
main pre-occupation is tax, shareholders and companies, couldn't
"practical reconciliation" take the form of registering the Council For
Aboriginal Reconciliation as a public company and at Corroboree
2000, on May 27, the PM could wholeheartedly encourage mums and dads to
take up shares in the reconciliation process?

John Hay, Bellingen. 
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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor (extract)

2000-04-30 Thread Trudy Rod Bray

The Canberra Times
Monday May1, 2000

PM can talk of 'generation' when it suits him! 

 ALTHOUGH John Howard is unable to say sorry on behalf of the
 Australian Government as an institution and his ministers "interpret"
 the facts regarding what does and does not constitute a generation,
 he appears more than willing to utilise his own version of a generation
 for grubby political gain and conservative mythmaking. In his oratory
 at Anzac Cove on Anzac Day he spoke of how this "great-hearted
 generation" . . . . gave their lives for freedom and liberty. In fact
these
 poor souls were fighting for continued British imperialism and were
 used consistently throughout the war as cannon fodder and lambs to
 the slaughter. They joined up for adventure and travel, and that is
 exactly how the whole thing was portrayed to them in the propaganda
 and media of the time. The true Anzac values of egalitarianism and
 looking after one another are far from Howard's concerns as a political
 decision maker. If they were truly his concerns, then why do these
 "stolen" people still cry out for recognition and why is Shirley
 Shackleton still holding out for justice from her own Government?
 Howard's Anzac obsession is little more than political grandstanding
 and opportunism from a cynical, callous and misguided little man. 

 GRAEME TUNKS
 Macarthur 

 Reconciliation statement 

 THE COUNCIL for Aboriginal Reconciliation would be wasting its time if
 it expects the current Prime Minister of Australia to say the magic
word
 of reconciliation "Sorry". Instead, the council should leave a space in
 that part of its final statement of reconciliation where the Prime
 Minister would have been expected to endorse a statement of "Sorry"
 and insert a statement along the following lines: "The above space is
 reserved for a future Prime Minister of Australia who, with integrity,
 sincerity, strength of character, courage and honesty, will show true
 leadership and state, on behalf of the majority of the people of
 Australia, how truly sorry we are for the immense wrongs that have
 been done to Australia's indigenous people. Sorry for the attempts to
 either wipe out or absorb into extinction, through the Stolen
 Generations, the native peoples of this land. "We recognise that even
 if the present Prime Minister were to say 'Sorry' no-one would believe
 he meant it, nor would he try to change the wrongs that continue to
 trouble so many of Australia's indigenous people." It may take a bit of
 time, but it will happen eventually. We will know the succes of our
 efforts when black and white (and every other colour) can agree that
 Australia Day, January 26, is at long last a day we can celebrate
 together. 

 IAN BUCHANAN
 Mawson 
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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor (extract)

2000-04-26 Thread Trudy Rod Bray

The Canberra Times
Letters to the editor (extract)
Thursday, April 27, 2000

Zimbabweans and Kosovars 

 I HAVE to strongly disagree with Australian Democrats Leader Meg
 Lees. If the Australian Government were to offer temporary refuge to
 displaced white farmers from Zimbabwe ("Door open to white farmers",
 CT, April 22, p.1), I very much hope in the name of fairness and
 even-handed treatment that they get exactly the same treatment as
 did the Kosovar refugees. I deplore the cold, Scrooge-like mentality
 that sent the Kosovars back under conditions that the media has
 brought to us. If the Government were to act with greater liberality to
 Zimbabwean refugees then there ought rightly to be a great outcry
 about the discriminatory and shabby way we handled the Kosovars
 and a demand that the Zimbabweans be decanted instantly to
 whatever part of the country appeared safe enough to dump them in.
 What was good for the one should be good for the other. If we treat
 white English-speaking Zimbabweans better than we did the Kosovars,
 what on earth will it look like to the rest of the world? 

 KEN SMITH
 Queanbeyan 

 Doubly blessed 

 OF COURSE John Howard will welcome Zimbabwean
 migrants/refugees (Letters , April 25). They're doubly blessed, aren't
 they? White and farmers! 

 DAMARIS WILSON
 O'Connor 
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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor (extract)

2000-04-24 Thread Trudy Rod Bray

The Canberra Times

Letters to the editor
Tuesday, 25 April, 2000 

 Treatment of Aborigines harms us throughout the
 world 

 AS A PROUD, patriotic Australian who for business reasons lives
 overseas and travels internationally very regularly, it is extremely
 distressing to observe and feel the enormous damage being done to
 our reputation by the Aboriginal situation. The coverage in the world's
 media of the Aboriginal plight in general, and mandatory sentencing
 and the stolen children in particular, is significant and will only be
 exacerbated by the media in Australia for the Olympic Games. I was
 recently addressing a global technology forum in England and even
 there the issue was the subject of a question. The issue, as I am
 seeing it discussed, is much less emotional and biased than the
 debate at home and focuses on the following: 

 1. Our long-term treatment of Aborigines borders on being a crime
 against humanity. 2. In light of apologies for past humanity crimes by
a
 host of leaders including President Clinton, the Pope, De Klerk and
 leaders of Germany, Canada and New Zealand among others, John
 Howard's excuses appear hollow and racist. 

 3. Australia's selective ringing endorsement of United Nations
 decisions when they apply to other countries' affairs and total
 dismissal when it comes to our own is seen as hypocritical, to say the
 least, and lessens the value of our opinions. 

 4. The attitude of the Australian Government is seen as racist and a
 reflection of the public's attitude. References to the "White
Australia"
 policy of the past are increasing and used as confirmation that things
 have not really changed. This hurts our country and our businesses
 and also reflects on each of us as individuals, which I strongly
resent. 

 Indigenous people throughout the world have made significant gains
 in the past decade and our treatment of Aborigines is seen as a
 travesty against the trend. This stigma will last for generations. Take
a
 look at the Aboriginal quality of life. It is also the moral and right
thing
 to do. 

 BOB PRITCHARD - Malibu, California, 
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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor of the SMH

2000-03-31 Thread Trudy Rod Bray

Letters: If we sign a treaty we must abide by it 

Date: 01/04/00

The Government's response to the UN's CERD report is chilling. I
remember when Australia used to sneer at South Africa and China for
lamely arguing that the UN should butt out of their "domestic political
issues".

Alexander Downer last night claimed that the UN should only act against
"egregious" human rights violations. The implication was that
Australia should be able to commit some human rights violations and not
be held accountable. It is a disgusting position for any "civilised"
nation to hold.

The Government seems singularly incapable of understanding that we are
not being told what to do. Australia, by signing various human
rights treaties, has told the world that we will abide by certain
fundamental principles. The UN's role is to notify us of when we have
not
acted in accordance with that contract.

If we want to renege on that contract, then we must do so publicly and
thereby join the ranks of the world's pariah states.

It is a measure of this Government's appalling lack of morality that it
holds Australia's commercial contracts sacrosanct but our social
contracts utterly dispensable. This morning I cried for my country. I
never thought I would be ashamed to be Australian.

Brendan Jones, Leichhardt

I have an uneasy feeling of deja vu. A UN committee criticises a
government on social justice issues. The government protests "but we
are a liberal democracy, we can't be guilty of these unfair
accusations".

The government announces it will investigate the UN committee's
operations.

Now I remember! South Africa, circa 1970. Those who live dangerously,
die dangerously. Good luck, Howard Government.

Ian De Saxe, Macquarie Park

The Howard Government's decision to review its co-operation with the UN
treaty process comes as a surprise, but it is a necessary step
in the right direction that One Nation has been advocating for a long
time. 

We elect our own parliamentarians to make our laws, we don't need UN
officials, who we have no say in choosing, from countries like
Cuba and Communist China, to tell us what to do. 

The move should win the Government a few votes, and let's face it, with
the GST coming, they'll need every vote they can get. 

Bob Vinnicombe, Sefton

I woke to hear the news that Australia will review its reporting to the
UN on racial treaties.

I momentarily thought there had been an overnight coup with One Nation
taking over the government of Australia.

G. Mortensen, Goulburn

When I was young, there was a saying attributed to a doting mother
watching children march: "They're all out of step except my
Johnny." Now Mr Howard claims United Nations committee findings lack
credibility in the eyes of the Australian people and the world
community, I'm inclined to think he's well named!

Gai Smith, Redfern

International obligations deriving from treaties signed by Australia
under the auspices of the UN are designed to protect human rights and
freedoms and combat the spread of prejudice and oppression. Our
government refuses to recognise these obligations, denigrates the
tribunals and committees who deal with them and seeks to white-ant the
treaties which created these obligations, while preaching the
domestic sovereignty of our States and Territories.

International obligations deriving from treaties signed by Australia
under the auspices of the World Trade Organisation are designed to
protect corporate powers and privileges and combat the spread of
regulations and policies that might conflict with their profit-making.
Our government slavishly accedes to these obligations, brooks no
criticism of the secretive and unaccountable tribunal which enforces
them and seeks to strengthen and extend the WTO's hold over government
policy both here and in other countries, while ignoring the
domestic sovereignty of our States and Territories, and, more
importantly, the Australian people.

It is heartening that we should be granted such insight as to whom our
government serves.

Robert Cook, Bondi

The Howard Government has a mandate to govern for three years only. It
therefore has absolutely no mandate to turn against the United
Nations and the principles of human rights to which this country is
rightly committed. 

To put perceived political advantage ahead of the basic principles of
universal human rights is disgusting and deeply shameful. 

I have never been as embarrassed for this country as I am now. The
government must either start acting like a modern, democratic and
civilised government or call an election. 

Also isn't it time the Liberal Party changed its name? It clearly does
not uphold principles of liberalism any more.

Max Phillips, Marrickville

Gee, luckily the UN did not look into our tax reform. We could all be
branded crooks.

B.A. Dean, Herberton

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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor

2000-03-10 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray

There are some very good letters to the editor you might
want to take a look at at the URL below

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0003/11/text/letters.html

Trudy
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Re: [recoznet2] Letters to the editor

1999-08-30 Thread irene

irene watson 
the programme whiteys like us, a good historical document glad someone
thought of filming the process, i hope it goes some way in explaining to
white people about how onerous the role of educating them about their own
racism is and even furhter in finding ways of doing it well without further
traumatising us nungas into the overall process

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 The Motion of Regret has unleashed a flurry of letters to the editor.
 Unfortunately, it seems to have flushed a lot of racists out of the
woodwork.
 Read them at:
 http://www.smh.com.au/news/9908/28/text/letters.html
 
 Trudy
 
 PS Does anyone who watched 'Whiteys like Us' last night have any
comments?
 
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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor at SMH

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray

http://www.smh.com.au/news/9908/26/text/letters.html

For letters on the 'apology' have a look at the above URL

Trudy

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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor

1999-03-23 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray

If you haven't sent your letter to the editor of your chosen paper yet, please
do so today!
Howard is trying to distract people from his racist legislation by releasing his
draft preamble but we can't let him avoid scrutiny of his breach of the UN
convention and human rights in that way.

The Sydney Morning Herald has only one letter today and that is from a dingbat
who agrees with Howard on his Australian legislation for Australia statement and
then concludes that 'a committee isn't answerable to anyone'. Obviously no
understanding of what is involved.

Trudy

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Re: [recoznet2] Letters to the editor

1999-03-22 Thread \(Robert\) Bruce Reyburn

Trudy,

I don't know the answer to that, but they say that your best chance of
getting
pubished is to mark it "exclusive to the Australian (or whatever)". 

This must remove the doubt in the Letters editor page about whether or not
the same letter will appear in their rivals paper. 

there is another consideration. When i read letters which are obviously 
distributed in mass to all types of papers - especially country papers - i
don't 
read them in the same way as i do a letter which appears to be written
to that particular paper. 

Something of the 'broadcasting' character comes through, and i don't 'feel'
that 
it is addressed specifically to me as a person. Instead of getting the
intented 
message, my mind wanders to what kind of organisation lies behind the
letter.

One good letter in a major paper is a real achievement, especially when
others
are also writing. Increase it's chances by marking it "Exclusive" is my
approach.

It is almost as though a ban had been placed on covering the CERD decision,
and yes a letter writing campaign is an excellent idea. Australia's people
need
to be well informed on this one.

Bruce


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 Does anyone know if sending the same letter to more than one paper is
 ethical, frowned upon or?
 
 Trudy
 
 
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[recoznet2] Letters to the editor

1999-03-20 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray


Does anyone know if sending the same letter to more than one paper is
ethical, frowned upon or?

Trudy

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