Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS
It may be worth noting that the Advanced Placement Biology tests most certainly includes evolution, and there is no plan to reduce the content. The AP tests are designed to reflect knowledge more educated, college kids should have in those disciplines, of course. Ed Darrell Dallas In a message dated 12/18/2004 12:23:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The "report" is an obvious, albeit well done, satire. The SAT does not test knowledge of science even in the section formerly known as "verbal" and soon to be known as "critical reading." It gives students a passage to read and asks questions designed to test their reading comprehension. It does NOT presume knowledge of what is contained in the passage before one reads it, though such familiarity helps. The College Board does give various versions of the tests, but does not modify them on a school-district or state by state basis. The whole point is to give what is essentially the same test to everyone across the country in an attempt to test proficiency at certain skills deemed needed for success at college-level work. Of course there is a level of knowledge involved, but not of the sort satirized in the Swift Report: News and Views Before You Need Them. Steve On Saturday, December 18, 2004, at 01:05 PM, Ed Brayton wrote: The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume it is exactly that. Ed Brayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing is taking. That is, if the report is accurate. The example questions seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me. Susanna Peters -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar vox: 202-806-8017 Howard University School of Law fax: 202-806-8428 2900 Van Ness Street NW mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC 20008 http://www.law.howard.edu/faculty/pages/jamar Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:19-21 ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS
Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing is taking. That is, if the report is accurate. The example questions seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me. Susanna Peters Those interested in the reach of the evolution vs creation tension and the legal issues arising in its impact on education may find this item, at http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/new_sat_questio.html#more to be worth a read. Is it true? I don't know. I haven't researched it. If true, what happens to the student who leans in the other direction? Two versions of the SAT in the same state??? Here's the first part (so as to avoid lifting the entire piece) = December 16, 2004 New SAT Questions Replace Evolution with Creation NEW YORK, NY-Officials from the College Board, the nonprofit entity that administers the Scholastic Aptitude Test or SAT, have announced that they are producing a new version of the test for students who live in school districts where creationism rather than evolution is taught in science classes. Sat_readingcomp_1Students who take the revised test, which will be introduced in school districts in Kansas and Georgia in the fall of 2005, will no longer be tested on their ability to comprehend passages from scientific texts that are based on the controversial theory of evolution. Instead, they will read excerpts from writings on such creation-related topics as the six days in which God created the earth or the great flood, then answer a series of questions to indicate how well they've understood the passages. (Click image, left, to view questions; or download PDF.) * * * * * * = Jim Maule Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law Villanova PA 19085 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule mauledagain.blogspot.com President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction) (www.taxjem.com) Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com) Maule Family Archivist Genealogist (www.maulefamily.com) ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS
The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume it is exactly that. Ed Brayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing is taking. That is, if the report is accurate. The example questions seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me. Susanna Peters Those interested in the reach of the evolution vs creation tension and the legal issues arising in its impact on education may find this item, at http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/new_sat_questio.html#more to be worth a read. Is it true? I don't know. I haven't researched it. If true, what happens to the student who leans in the other direction? Two versions of the SAT in the same state??? Here's the first part (so as to avoid lifting the entire piece) = December 16, 2004 New SAT Questions Replace Evolution with Creation NEW YORK, NY-Officials from the College Board, the nonprofit entity that administers the Scholastic Aptitude Test or SAT, have announced that they are producing a new version of the test for students who live in school districts where creationism rather than evolution is taught in science classes. Sat_readingcomp_1Students who take the revised test, which will be introduced in school districts in Kansas and Georgia in the fall of 2005, will no longer be tested on their ability to comprehend passages from scientific texts that are based on the controversial theory of evolution. Instead, they will read excerpts from writings on such creation-related topics as the six days in which God created the earth or the great flood, then answer a series of questions to indicate how well they've understood the passages. (Click image, left, to view questions; or download PDF.) * * * * * * = Jim Maule Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law Villanova PA 19085 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule mauledagain.blogspot.com President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction) (www.taxjem.com) Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com) Maule Family Archivist Genealogist (www.maulefamily.com) ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS
The report is an obvious, albeit well done, satire. The SAT does not test knowledge of science even in the section formerly known as verbal and soon to be known as critical reading. It gives students a passage to read and asks questions designed to test their reading comprehension. It does NOT presume knowledge of what is contained in the passage before one reads it, though such familiarity helps. The College Board does give various versions of the tests, but does not modify them on a school-district or state by state basis. The whole point is to give what is essentially the same test to everyone across the country in an attempt to test proficiency at certain skills deemed needed for success at college-level work. Of course there is a level of knowledge involved, but not of the sort satirized in the Swift Report: News and Views Before You Need Them. Steve On Saturday, December 18, 2004, at 01:05 PM, Ed Brayton wrote: The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume it is exactly that. Ed Brayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing is taking. That is, if the report is accurate. The example questions seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me. Susanna Peters -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar vox: 202-806-8017 Howard University School of Law fax: 202-806-8428 2900 Van Ness Street NW mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC 20008 http://www.law.howard.edu/faculty/pages/jamar Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:19-21 ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS
Within the past few hours I received a similar message, that this is *probably* a parody, given the nature of the site that published (or republished) it? The folks at SAT have not yet confirmed or denied. That's why I included Is it true? I don't know as a red flag, expressing my doubts. My doubts were triggered not by knowledge of the site's nature as a parody site (for I had not been to the site) but by the absurd logistics issue raised in my question about how the test would be administered. If it is a parody, it is rather well done. Sometimes a laugh smooths the way for serious discussion. Jim Maule [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/04 1:05:07 PM The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume it is exactly that. Ed Brayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing is taking. That is, if the report is accurate. The example questions seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me. Susanna Peters Those interested in the reach of the evolution vs creation tension and the legal issues arising in its impact on education may find this item, at http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/new_sat_questio.html#more to be worth a read. Is it true? I don't know. I haven't researched it. If true, what happens to the student who leans in the other direction? Two versions of the SAT in the same state??? Here's the first part (so as to avoid lifting the entire piece) = December 16, 2004 New SAT Questions Replace Evolution with Creation NEW YORK, NY-Officials from the College Board, the nonprofit entity that administers the Scholastic Aptitude Test or SAT, have announced that they are producing a new version of the test for students who live in school districts where creationism rather than evolution is taught in science classes. Sat_readingcomp_1Students who take the revised test, which will be introduced in school districts in Kansas and Georgia in the fall of 2005, will no longer be tested on their ability to comprehend passages from scientific texts that are based on the controversial theory of evolution. Instead, they will read excerpts from writings on such creation-related topics as the six days in which God created the earth or the great flood, then answer a series of questions to indicate how well they've understood the passages. (Click image, left, to view questions; or download PDF.) * * * * * * = Jim Maule Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law Villanova PA 19085 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule mauledagain.blogspot.com President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction) (www.taxjem.com) Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com) Maule Family Archivist Genealogist (www.maulefamily.com) ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.