Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS

2004-12-22 Thread EDarr1776
It may be worth noting that the Advanced Placement Biology tests most certainly includes evolution, and there is no plan to reduce the content. The AP tests are designed to reflect knowledge more educated, college kids should have in those disciplines, of course.

Ed Darrell
Dallas


In a message dated 12/18/2004 12:23:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


The "report" is an obvious, albeit well done, satire. The SAT does not 
test knowledge of science even in the section formerly known as 
"verbal" and soon to be known as "critical reading." It gives students 
a passage to read and asks questions designed to test their reading 
comprehension. It does NOT presume knowledge of what is contained in 
the passage before one reads it, though such familiarity helps.

The College Board does give various versions of the tests, but does not 
modify them on a school-district or state by state basis. The whole 
point is to give what is essentially the same test to everyone across 
the country in an attempt to test proficiency at certain skills deemed 
needed for success at college-level work. Of course there is a level 
of knowledge involved, but not of the sort satirized in the Swift 
Report: News and Views Before You Need Them.

Steve

On Saturday, December 18, 2004, at 01:05 PM, Ed Brayton wrote:

 The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would 
 assume it is exactly that.

 Ed Brayton

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the 
 testing
 is taking. That is, if the report is accurate. The example questions
 seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me.

 Susanna Peters

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Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS

2004-12-18 Thread speters
Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing
is taking. That is, if the report is accurate.   The example questions
seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me.

Susanna Peters



Those interested in the reach of the evolution vs creation tension and
 the legal issues arising in its impact on education may find this item,
 at

 http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/new_sat_questio.html#more

 to be worth a read. Is it true?  I don't know. I haven't researched it.
 If true, what happens to the student who leans in the other direction?
 Two versions of the SAT in the same state???

 Here's the first part (so as to avoid lifting the entire piece)

 =
 December 16, 2004
 New SAT Questions Replace Evolution with Creation

 NEW YORK, NY-Officials from the College Board, the nonprofit entity
 that
 administers the Scholastic Aptitude Test or SAT, have announced that
 they are
 producing a new version of the test for students who live in school
 districts where
 creationism rather than evolution is taught in science classes.

 Sat_readingcomp_1Students who take the revised test, which will be
 introduced in
 school districts in Kansas and Georgia in the fall of 2005, will no
 longer be tested on
 their ability to comprehend passages from scientific texts that are
 based on the
 controversial theory of evolution. Instead, they will read excerpts
 from writings on
 such creation-related topics as the six days in which God created the
 earth or the
 great flood, then answer a series of questions to indicate how well
 they've
 understood the passages. (Click image, left, to view questions; or
 download PDF.)

 * * * * * *

 =



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 Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law
 Villanova PA 19085
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule
 mauledagain.blogspot.com
 President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction)
 (www.taxjem.com)
 Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com)
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Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS

2004-12-18 Thread Ed Brayton




The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume
it is exactly that.

Ed Brayton

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing
is taking. That is, if the report is accurate.   The example questions
seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me.

Susanna Peters



Those interested in the reach of the evolution vs creation tension and
  
  
the legal issues arising in its impact on education may find this item,
at

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/new_sat_questio.html#more

to be worth a read. Is it true?  I don't know. I haven't researched it.
If true, what happens to the student who leans in the other direction?
Two versions of the SAT in the same state???

Here's the first part (so as to avoid lifting the entire piece)

=
December 16, 2004
New SAT Questions Replace Evolution with Creation

NEW YORK, NY-Officials from the College Board, the nonprofit entity
that
administers the Scholastic Aptitude Test or SAT, have announced that
they are
producing a new version of the test for students who live in school
districts where
creationism rather than evolution is taught in science classes.

Sat_readingcomp_1Students who take the revised test, which will be
introduced in
school districts in Kansas and Georgia in the fall of 2005, will no
longer be tested on
their ability to comprehend passages from scientific texts that are
based on the
controversial theory of evolution. Instead, they will read excerpts
from writings on
such creation-related topics as the six days in which God created the
earth or the
great flood, then answer a series of questions to indicate how well
they've
understood the passages. (Click image, left, to view questions; or
download PDF.)

* * * * * *

=



Jim Maule
Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law
Villanova PA 19085
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule
mauledagain.blogspot.com
President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction)
(www.taxjem.com)
Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com)
Maule Family Archivist  Genealogist (www.maulefamily.com)



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Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS

2004-12-18 Thread Steven Jamar
The report is an obvious, albeit well done, satire.  The SAT does not test knowledge of science even in the section formerly known as verbal and soon to be known as critical reading.  It gives students a passage to read and asks questions designed to test their reading comprehension.  It does NOT presume knowledge of what is contained in the passage before one reads it, though such familiarity helps.

The College Board does give various versions of the tests, but does not modify them on a school-district or state by state basis.  The whole point is to give what is essentially the same test to everyone across the country in an attempt to test proficiency at certain skills deemed needed for success at college-level work.  Of course there is a level of knowledge involved, but not of the sort satirized in the Swift Report:  News and Views Before You Need Them.

Steve

On Saturday, December 18, 2004, at 01:05  PM, Ed Brayton wrote:

The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume it is exactly that.

Ed Brayton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the testing
is taking. That is, if the report is accurate.   The example questions
seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me.

Susanna Peters

-- 
Prof. Steven D. Jamar vox:  202-806-8017
Howard University School of Law   fax:  202-806-8428
2900 Van Ness Street NW	mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Washington, DC  20008  http://www.law.howard.edu/faculty/pages/jamar

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 

Matthew 6:19-21
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Re: Evolution vs Creation Reaches the SATS

2004-12-18 Thread James Maule
Within the past few hours I received a similar message, that this is
*probably* a parody, given the nature of the site that published (or
republished) it? The folks at SAT have not yet confirmed or denied. 

That's why I included Is it true? I don't know as a red flag,
expressing my doubts. My doubts were triggered not by knowledge of the
site's nature as a parody site (for I had not been to the site) but by
the absurd logistics issue raised in my question about how the test
would be administered.

If it is a parody, it is rather well done. Sometimes a laugh smooths
the way for serious discussion.

Jim Maule

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/04 1:05:07 PM 
The site this appears on is a well known parody site, so I would assume

it is exactly that.

Ed Brayton

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone on the list know if this is indeed the direction the
testing
is taking. That is, if the report is accurate.   The example
questions
seem to ask for more than reading comprehension to me.

Susanna Peters



Those interested in the reach of the evolution vs creation tension
and
  

the legal issues arising in its impact on education may find this
item,
at

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/new_sat_questio.html#more 

to be worth a read. Is it true?  I don't know. I haven't researched
it.
If true, what happens to the student who leans in the other
direction?
Two versions of the SAT in the same state???

Here's the first part (so as to avoid lifting the entire piece)

=
December 16, 2004
New SAT Questions Replace Evolution with Creation

NEW YORK, NY-Officials from the College Board, the nonprofit entity
that
administers the Scholastic Aptitude Test or SAT, have announced that
they are
producing a new version of the test for students who live in school
districts where
creationism rather than evolution is taught in science classes.

Sat_readingcomp_1Students who take the revised test, which will be
introduced in
school districts in Kansas and Georgia in the fall of 2005, will no
longer be tested on
their ability to comprehend passages from scientific texts that are
based on the
controversial theory of evolution. Instead, they will read excerpts
from writings on
such creation-related topics as the six days in which God created
the
earth or the
great flood, then answer a series of questions to indicate how well
they've
understood the passages. (Click image, left, to view questions; or
download PDF.)

* * * * * *

=



Jim Maule
Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law
Villanova PA 19085
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule 
mauledagain.blogspot.com
President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction)
(www.taxjem.com)
Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com)
Maule Family Archivist  Genealogist (www.maulefamily.com)



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