Re: Illinois RFRA

2009-06-09 Thread Lawyer2974

Doug:
 
Wondering if there is any word on the Michigan rule regarding witness/party 
 attire (veiled muslim incident)?
 
Also, do you have readily available a cite to Illinois' RFRA and a thought  
on whether it is properly invoked as a defense in a civil lawsuit which  
asks the court to find and employment or other supervisory relationship 
between  a minister and a religious judicatory (in effect, declaring what the 
faith's  polity or governance structure is as opposed to what the faith says it 
is) and  thereby awarding monetary damages to plaintiff from the judicatory 
for wrongful  acts by the minister?
 
I have the same question as far as Texas RFRA is concerned
 
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Re: Illinois RFRA

2009-06-09 Thread Marc Stern
The second circuit held in a split decision somehow dissenting that FRA 
displaced the ministerial  exCeption. Somehow would have held it did not but in 
the course of so arguing unnecessarily argued FRA did not apply in private 
lawsuits brought under federal statutes. I do not remember the name of the case
Marc stern

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Doug:
 
Wondering if there is any word on the Michigan rule regarding witness/party 
attire (veiled muslim incident)?
 
Also, do you have readily available a cite to Illinois' RFRA and a thought on 
whether it is properly invoked as a defense in a civil lawsuit which asks the 
court to find and employment or other supervisory relationship between a 
minister and a religious judicatory (in effect, declaring what the faith's 
polity or governance structure is as opposed to what the faith says it is) and 
thereby awarding monetary damages to plaintiff from the judicatory for wrongful 
acts by the minister?
 
I have the same question as far as Texas RFRA is concerned
 
--Don Clark
 



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RE: Illinois RFRA

2009-06-09 Thread Skip L'Heureux
Probably was Lyght v Hankins
 
 
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The second circuit held in a split decision somehow dissenting that FRA
displaced the ministerial  exCeption. Somehow would have held it did not but
in the course of so arguing unnecessarily argued FRA did not apply in
private lawsuits brought under federal statutes. I do not remember the name
of the case
Marc stern

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Subject: Re: Illinois RFRA


Doug:

Wondering if there is any word on the Michigan rule regarding witness/party
attire (veiled muslim incident)?

Also, do you have readily available a cite to Illinois' RFRA and a thought
on whether it is properly invoked as a defense in a civil lawsuit which asks
the court to find and employment or other supervisory relationship between a
minister and a religious judicatory (in effect, declaring what the faith's
polity or governance structure is as opposed to what the faith says it is)
and thereby awarding monetary damages to plaintiff from the judicatory for
wrongful acts by the minister?

I have the same question as far as Texas RFRA is concerned

--Don Clark




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Re: Illinois RFRA

2009-06-09 Thread Marc Stern
That's right
Marc

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Probably was Lyght v Hankins
 
 
s...@queenschurches.org
 
Rev. N. J. L'Heureux, Jr.
Executive Director
Queens Federation of Churches
86-17 105th Street
Richmond Hill, New York 11418-1597
Voice (718) 847-6764
FAX (718) 847-7392
 
Visit our Web site at http://www.QueensChurches.org/
 
 



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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:26 PM
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Subject: Re: Illinois RFRA



The second circuit held in a split decision somehow dissenting that FRA 
displaced the ministerial  exCeption. Somehow would have held it did not but in 
the course of so arguing unnecessarily argued FRA did not apply in private 
lawsuits brought under federal statutes. I do not remember the name of the case
Marc stern

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Sent: Tue Jun 09 19:14:20 2009
Subject: Re: Illinois RFRA


Doug:

Wondering if there is any word on the Michigan rule regarding witness/party 
attire (veiled muslim incident)?

Also, do you have readily available a cite to Illinois' RFRA and a thought on 
whether it is properly invoked as a defense in a civil lawsuit which asks the 
court to find and employment or other supervisory relationship between a 
minister and a religious judicatory (in effect, declaring what the faith's 
polity or governance structure is as opposed to what the faith says it is) and 
thereby awarding monetary damages to plaintiff from the judicatory for wrongful 
acts by the minister?

I have the same question as far as Texas RFRA is concerned

--Don Clark




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