RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Connectors - spectras/GM/Maxtrac/...

2009-11-16 Thread Tim Ahrens
Thanks all for the info!

Tim




[Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread NORM KNAPP
I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the tone 
remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it appears 
this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a repeater by 
evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a preselector on the rear. 
My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will I have to come up with a 
motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split? S/N 474CZT03xx F.O.: 
0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B.
Thanks es 73
Norm


[Repeater-Builder] Cheap: Canadian Marconi Repeater.

2009-11-16 Thread Tedd Doda
Hi Guys:

Does anyone close to Kitchener-Waterloo Ontario have a use for
a VHF repeater? This is just the cabinet, and it comes with another
unit for parts. It is currently on 147.280/147.880 (crystals included).

It has been sitting in my shop for 10+ years, so it's time to
let someone else have some fun.

$50 or B.O. (really BEST OFFER)

Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

Lazer Audio and Electronics
http://www.ve3tjd.com

My idea of a symphony: 8 pistons playing the tune
my right foot tells them to.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cheap: Canadian Marconi Repeater.

2009-11-16 Thread John J. Riddell
Hi Tedd,   Just wondered if you meant 146.28 / 146.880 as i think 
that is the standard pair



JR
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Cheap: Canadian Marconi Repeater.


 Hi Guys:
 
 Does anyone close to Kitchener-Waterloo Ontario have a use for
 a VHF repeater? This is just the cabinet, and it comes with another
 unit for parts. It is currently on 147.280/147.880 (crystals included).
 
 It has been sitting in my shop for 10+ years, so it's time to
 let someone else have some fun.
 
 $50 or B.O. (really BEST OFFER)
 
 Tedd Doda, VE3TJD
 
 Lazer Audio and Electronics
 http://www.ve3tjd.com
 
 My idea of a symphony: 8 pistons playing the tune
 my right foot tells them to.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF-5000 VCO problem

2009-11-16 Thread Bill



There was a guy at the stone mtn hamfest with several for 10.00...
I think he is in the atlanta area...wb9dbd I think.
.
bill
.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, hl31943 hles...@... wrote:

 I have a CXB UHF repeater and can't get the receive VCO to lock properly. I 
 get a peak of about 23 uA but it doesn't lock there. If I tune to where it 
 will lock, the M5 reading is about 13 uA. I've taken the VCO apart twice and 
 cleaned it.
 
 Is substituting the transmit VCO (which does lock at 38 uA)a valid test of 
 anything? I've also posted this problem on the MSF-5000 group, but no answer 
 so far.
 
 I'm probably in the market for a replacement VCO if anyone has one available. 
 Suggestions would be appreciated.
 
 73,
 Howard
 WB4GUD





[Repeater-Builder] Azden PCS-5000 Manual

2009-11-16 Thread sjotrollet
Bit off more than I can chew (I'm a 160m CW ham). #2 son just passed
his Tech test and I foolishly promised him a Azden PCS-5000 thats
part of an estate I'm helping with.
   This morning, put it on bench to try out. Man, where did a simple
CW rig get all those buttons and knobs??. Keeping in mind that I
passed my most recent FCC test in 1959, we need help. 
   We have the W7FG manual but its mostly for repairs. There is one
page devoted to operating  setup. Does the original manual contain
more on the operation? Unable to locate anything online. If there is
more than one page, can anyone either scan  email the operating
pages or tell us where to get one?
SOS SOS SOS
73
Walt (N4GL)



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Azden PCS-5000 Manual

2009-11-16 Thread Jason Parks
http://www.rigpix.com/azden/pcs5000.htm

On the above page, scan down toward the bottom, you'll find a link to 
the manual

73's
KF7CEG

sjotrollet wrote:
  
 
 Bit off more than I can chew (I'm a 160m CW ham). #2 son just passed
 his Tech test and I foolishly promised him a Azden PCS-5000 thats
 part of an estate I'm helping with.
 This morning, put it on bench to try out. Man, where did a simple
 CW rig get all those buttons and knobs??. Keeping in mind that I
 passed my most recent FCC test in 1959, we need help.
 We have the W7FG manual but its mostly for repairs. There is one
 page devoted to operating  setup. Does the original manual contain
 more on the operation? Unable to locate anything online. If there is
 more than one page, can anyone either scan  email the operating
 pages or tell us where to get one?
 SOS SOS SOS
 73
 Walt (N4GL)
 
 







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Azden PCS-5000 Manual

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Walt,

Try this link for a owner's manual:
http://www.rigpix.com/azden/pcs5000_manual.pdf

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


sjotrollet wrote:
 Bit off more than I can chew (I'm a 160m CW ham). #2 son just passed
 his Tech test and I foolishly promised him a Azden PCS-5000 thats
 part of an estate I'm helping with.
This morning, put it on bench to try out. Man, where did a simple
 CW rig get all those buttons and knobs??. Keeping in mind that I
 passed my most recent FCC test in 1959, we need help. 
We have the W7FG manual but its mostly for repairs. There is one
 page devoted to operating  setup. Does the original manual contain
 more on the operation? Unable to locate anything online. If there is
 more than one page, can anyone either scan  email the operating
 pages or tell us where to get one?
 SOS SOS SOS
 73
 Walt (N4GL)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cheap: Canadian Marconi Repeater.

2009-11-16 Thread Tedd Doda
John J. Riddell wrote:
 Hi Tedd,   Just wondered if you meant 146.28 / 146.880 as i think 
 that is the standard pair
 

Your close John, but thanks for making me check again. The pair
is 147.285/147.885.


Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

Lazer Audio and Electronics
http://www.ve3tjd.com

My idea of a symphony: 8 pistons playing the tune
my right foot tells them to.



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-16 Thread skipp025
Yes please Jeff... 

thanks
skipp 


 Jeff DePolo j...@... wrote:
 I have dimensional data for both Decibel and Celwave 
 lowband folded dipoles *somewhere*.  If there's interest 
 I'll hunt for them.  
 
 I think the Celwave design (with the stingers) would be easier to
 fabricate - no bending involved.
 
   --- Jeff WN3A
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:57 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop 
  Antennas (DB-212)
  

  
  
   Chuck Kelsey wb2edv@ wrote:
   FYI - Sinclair got the extra bandwidth by stager tuning 
   the antenna element from the 1/4-wave matching transformer 
   that is inside the element. The trade-off was a decrease 
   in return loss (higher VSWR).
   Chuck
   WB2EDV
  
  Maybe... maybe not. I swept one just a short time back and 
  the return loss was about 15.6 dB, which makes it a very nice 
  usable animal. 
  
  I've also had one in parts and the matching coax length was 
  what I would have expected. Somewhere in my notes I have all 
  the construction information recorded like I did on the Decibel 
  Antennas...
  
  I've got a Decibel Loop at the old shop somewhere... if I can 
  easily get it up high enough to throw a sweep on it I can 
  report the results back. 
  
  I'll have another HP Digital Sender (auto feed pdf scanner) on 
  line within the month... then you'll have more information to 
  chew over. 
  
  cheers, 
  s. 
  
  
  
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Code 3 - RFI

2009-11-16 Thread skipp025
Re: Code 3 - RFI  

Today's amusing Code 3 RFI story comes to you courtesy 
of modern LED Code 3 lighting hardware companies. 

A State Police Car arrives with missing receive audio 
radio complaints. In the interest of brevity... via a lot 
of searching to find the New Generation LED (Code-3) 
lighting generates more than enough RFI to pretty much 
disable the low band receiver. Not from the trunk mounted 
controller mind you but the unwanted RF energy radiates from 
the actual LED fixtures installed in each rear-view mirror. 

They're going back to analog (light bulbs) lighting at 
the cost of global warming. I might report them to Al Gore... 
but probably not anytime soon. 

:-) 

cheers, 
s. 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Power Connectors - spectras/GM/Maxtrac/...

2009-11-16 Thread travis8303
Tim,

You might like the prices and various units posted here:

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/116/Cables-2-Cond.-Waterproof/1.html

For short pigtails I have used the double-ended units and snipped them in half, 
careful of the wrong colored lead at that point.

I have purchased the doubles and singles, they came in quickly and were nice 
units.

Travis
AA9NV


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 -Original Message-
 From: tahrens301 tahr...@...
 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:48:54 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Connectors - spectras/GM/Maxtrac/...
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I'm looking for some power connectors for the above types
 of radios.
 
 I don't need much more than pigtails, as I am doing a special
 cabling project.
 
 I've looked at both Mouser  Digikey, but they don't seem to 
 carry anything similar.  I have seen 'generic' types before...
 somewhere!
 
 If anybody has some ideas, please let me know.  I need about
 20 of them.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tim





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread nj902
The VHF MTR2000 comes in three versions capable of transmit powers of 30, 40, 
or 100 Watts.

The 30 and 40 Watt transmitters cover 132-174 as does the receiver in all 
three, but the 100 Watt transmitter comes in two ranges: 132-154 MHz and 
150-174 MHz.

The 100 Watt 150-174 transmitter can't be programmed for two meters.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote:

... will this thing work on 2m ...



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread Brian Raker
Well, the MTR2000 in VHF came primarily in two flavors, 132-174 MHz 40
watt, and 150-174 MHz 100 watt.  The 150-174 MHz 100 watt unit will
not tune down to 2 meter ham frequencies.

The easy way to tell the two apart is looking for fans on the PA and
power supply.  If you have fans, you have a 100 watt unit.  No fans or
just a fan on the power supply, you'll have a 40 watt unit.

Unfortunately I can't answer to whether you will need the pre-selector
for 600 kHz split.

-Brian / KF4ZWZ

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote:
 I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the tone 
 remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it 
 appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a 
 repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a 
 preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will 
 I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split? S/N 
 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B.
 Thanks es 73
 Norm


 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread NORM KNAPP
RATS
So what you are telling me is that I need to swap this thing out for a ham 
compatible repeater somewhere.
Just my luck! :-(


- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon Nov 16 15:01:08 2009
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

  

The VHF MTR2000 comes in three versions capable of transmit powers of 30, 40, 
or 100 Watts.

The 30 and 40 Watt transmitters cover 132-174 as does the receiver in all 
three, but the 100 Watt transmitter comes in two ranges: 132-154 MHz and 
150-174 MHz.

The 100 Watt 150-174 transmitter can't be programmed for two meters.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote:

... will this thing work on 2m ...






[Repeater-Builder] Re: TXRX Vari-NotchR coupling loops

2009-11-16 Thread Andy K
Jeff, I received some pics that have answered my question. I note that RFI 
quote different part no's for the high and low pass, I guess this is so the 
tuning is smoother, my prototype is working ok as both high/low pass in a 
Allgon 5 cavity @433 megs with 1.6 meg spacing.
As a matter of interest I have a 28-88-01, 900meg 3.6 spacing dup which i 
modded to 1297 Megs, by shortening the plungers, and changing the jumpers, this 
works fine at 6 Megs spacing
Cheers
Andy
G8VLL


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  Has anyone got the dimensions of these for a 4 cavity for 
  450 ish, they are the ones with 2 BNC sockets and a capacitor...Thanks
  
  Andy
  
  G8VLL
 
 I'll take one apart if nobody else responds.  I have both the ham band
 28-66-02 duplexers (100 dB isolation, 0.6 dB loss, 5 MHz split) and also the
 same thing in 450-470 MHz (28-70-02) - I don't think the loops are different
 between the two, just harness cable lengths.  I think I also have a
 28-70-09, which has slightly different loops which yield higher loss (1.2
 dB) but deeper notches and more mid-band rejection.
 
   --- Jeff WN3A





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread NORM KNAPP
So, is there no way to fool the repeater or shoot different firmware into it so 
it wIll take the 144-148mhz tx freqs?


- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon Nov 16 15:01:33 2009
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

  

Well, the MTR2000 in VHF came primarily in two flavors, 132-174 MHz 40
watt, and 150-174 MHz 100 watt. The 150-174 MHz 100 watt unit will
not tune down to 2 meter ham frequencies.

The easy way to tell the two apart is looking for fans on the PA and
power supply. If you have fans, you have a 100 watt unit. No fans or
just a fan on the power supply, you'll have a 40 watt unit.

Unfortunately I can't answer to whether you will need the pre-selector
for 600 kHz split.

-Brian / KF4ZWZ

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net 
mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net  wrote:
 I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the tone 
 remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it 
 appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a 
 repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a 
 preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will 
 I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split? S/N 
 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B.
 Thanks es 73
 Norm


 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
Nate Duehr wrote:

 
 Hmm... My Kenwood TH-F6A (I assume that's what you mean by F6)
 does NOT respond to RB from anything I've tried.  How old is
 yours?  (Perhaps a change?)

Don't remember now...3-4 yrs maybe???
Batt date code is J14A if that helps...

 You sure the repeater you're listening to doesn't drop the CTCSS
 prior to TX drop?

heh-my repeaters ;cD

 
 Granted most of the local systems are GE STE, not Moto RB... so I
 have to go out of my way to find a Motorola repeater to test
 things against... :-)
 --
   Nate Duehr, WY0X
   n...@natetech.com

heh-I got the opposite issue. Right now the only GE i have online is a 
Phoenix-SX-grey case-and it does work with that simplex...


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Code 3 - RFI

2009-11-16 Thread Dan Blasberg
What model where the mirror lights?  If they were an older model that  
has an internal ballast, upgrading them to non-ballast versions clears  
up the RFI.

Dan
KA8YPY


On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:03 PM, skipp025 wrote:

 Re: Code 3 - RFI

 Today's amusing Code 3 RFI story comes to you courtesy
 of modern LED Code 3 lighting hardware companies.

 A State Police Car arrives with missing receive audio
 radio complaints. In the interest of brevity... via a lot
 of searching to find the New Generation LED (Code-3)
 lighting generates more than enough RFI to pretty much
 disable the low band receiver. Not from the trunk mounted
 controller mind you but the unwanted RF energy radiates from
 the actual LED fixtures installed in each rear-view mirror.

 They're going back to analog (light bulbs) lighting at
 the cost of global warming. I might report them to Al Gore...
 but probably not anytime soon.

 :-)

 cheers,
 s.



 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread Brian Raker
Not if it's a 150-172 MHz / 100W unit, nope.

-BR / KF4ZWZ

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote:
 So, is there no way to fool the repeater or shoot different firmware into it 
 so it wIll take the 144-148mhz tx freqs?


 - Original Message -
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Mon Nov 16 15:01:33 2009
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.



 Well, the MTR2000 in VHF came primarily in two flavors, 132-174 MHz 40
 watt, and 150-174 MHz 100 watt. The 150-174 MHz 100 watt unit will
 not tune down to 2 meter ham frequencies.

 The easy way to tell the two apart is looking for fans on the PA and
 power supply. If you have fans, you have a 100 watt unit. No fans or
 just a fan on the power supply, you'll have a 40 watt unit.

 Unfortunately I can't answer to whether you will need the pre-selector
 for 600 kHz split.

 -Brian / KF4ZWZ

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net 
 mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net  wrote:
 I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the 
 tone remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it 
 appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a 
 repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a 
 preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will 
 I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split? 
 S/N 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B.
 Thanks es 73
 Norm


 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

2009-11-16 Thread Eric Lemmon
Norm,

None of the numbers you provided identifies the band or power of your
MTR2000.  It happens that the MTR2000 contains an internal preselector, but
that fact is irrelevant to 2m operation- the duplexer will allow any VHF
MTR2000 to work on 2m.  All MTR2000 stations purchased through retail
channels carry the model number T5766, regardless of band or power.

First of all, do you know for certain that the station is VHF?  If so, does
the station have fans in the heat sinks?  If so, then it is a 100-watt class
unit.  There are two models of 100 watt VHF MTR2000 stations:  One will
operate only in the band 132-154 MHz, and the other will operate only in the
band 150-174 MHz.  The latter unit cannot be made or modified to work at 2m.

To help identify your MTR2000, go to this link to get a list of modules to
identify exactly what you have:
www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/mtr2k/mtr-2000-frus.html
and some additional info is here:
www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/mtr2k/mtr-2000-followup.html

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:08 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.

  

I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightning hit to the tone
remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it
appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a
repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a
preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and will
I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz split?
S/N 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no: FO306B. 
Thanks es 73 
Norm 






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Code 3 - RFI

2009-11-16 Thread Chris Quirk
Ran into the same problem with Star Lantern supervisor lights that mount inside 
the car. Never got it solved, on low band, radio unusable, VHF UHF you could 
hear it but dispatch was louder. 

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Dan Blasberg ka8...@verizon.net wrote:


From: Dan Blasberg ka8...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Code 3 - RFI
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 3:34 PM


What model where the mirror lights?  If they were an older model that  
has an internal ballast, upgrading them to non-ballast versions clears  
up the RFI.

Dan
KA8YPY


On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:03 PM, skipp025 wrote:

 Re: Code 3 - RFI

 Today's amusing Code 3 RFI story comes to you courtesy
 of modern LED Code 3 lighting hardware companies.

 A State Police Car arrives with missing receive audio
 radio complaints. In the interest of brevity... via a lot
 of searching to find the New Generation LED (Code-3)
 lighting generates more than enough RFI to pretty much
 disable the low band receiver. Not from the trunk mounted
 controller mind you but the unwanted RF energy radiates from
 the actual LED fixtures installed in each rear-view mirror.

 They're going back to analog (light bulbs) lighting at
 the cost of global warming. I might report them to Al Gore...
 but probably not anytime soon.

 :-)

 cheers,
 s.



 



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[Repeater-Builder] DB4001 to 222

2009-11-16 Thread dwmcg...@bellsouth.net
Any one have any info on converting Db Products 5 inch DB4001  to use on 222 
mhz.  Appreciate any info

Please reply to dwmcg...@bellsouth.net
Thanks -- Dale K0JXI



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ACSSB - FM History

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
lenaw12 wrote:
 146.94 was the defacto standard repeater
 channel that was perfect for the traveling ham because every city had
 a repeater on that pair.

That was after it was national simplex frequency ;c)))



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
mzfb2001 wrote:
 I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am
 looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter.
 I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its
 not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and
 on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money.
 This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no
 controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed
 to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine
 audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for
 your input Mike
 

I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that I have had 
the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I 
put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several 
dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 
400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K.
Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station?


Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - now I know where all of the older neat radios went....

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
 Check the photos at http://www.qrz.com/db/w9evt
 
 Mike WA6ILQ

Wow-AES's shelves should be so full!


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio

2009-11-16 Thread TGundo 2003
Yes, I just measured mine out last week (again) and I believe I have the same 
thing. I will measure it exactly tommorow and post my findings.

Tom
W9SRV

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 11:55 PM
 mzfb2001 wrote:
  I was looking in the files section and may have missed
 it, but I am
  looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my
 UHF transmiter.
  I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not
 tinny but its
  not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The
 audio levels and
  on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be
 on the money.
  This is an unmodified repeater station using stock
 cards and no
  controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency
 has been changed
  to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the
 receiver has fine
  audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or
 ideas. Thanks for
  your input Mike
  
 
 I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting
 that I have had 
 the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF
 stations I 
 put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll
 off several 
 dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get
 abt 4 out @ 
 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K.
 Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor
 station?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
skipp025 wrote:

 or care for local speaker audio. 
 
 There is such a glut of used surplus radio equipment on 
 the market right now that I doubt many people will bother 
 with using Master Pro-Receivers when a crystal has to be 
 ordered for each frequency change. 
 
 Of recent surprise to me is how much GE Master II stuff 
 is flooding into the used radio market and how dirt cheap 
 it is... 
 
 I've even started to see Master 3 equipment coming out to 
 hit the surplus market and Ebay... selling for a lot less 
 than I would have suspected they/it would. 

The big in-rush is the start of narrowbanding on VHF and UHF. A LOT of 
not-so-old radios won't do NB, and have to be replaced by the end of 
2012. Yes, some of them are early MIII's! Probably some early 
Quantar's/Quantro's too! I know that's why we're seeing so many MSF's.





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ACSSB

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
wb6dgn wrote:
 OK, I guess I'd better calm down and explain.  After I've composed
 the message, how do I tell the system that I want to include an
 attachment?  I don't see anything to click on to indicate that I want
 to send the attachment. TA


Most email programs I've seen have a button somewhere that looks like a 
paper clip...


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ACSSB - FM History

2009-11-16 Thread MCH
I thought 34/76 was the standard. (146.340 in, and 146.760 out)

Joe M.

wd8chl wrote:
 lenaw12 wrote:
 146.94 was the defacto standard repeater
 channel that was perfect for the traveling ham because every city had
 a repeater on that pair.
 
 That was after it was national simplex frequency ;c)))
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio

2009-11-16 Thread TGundo 2003
I stand corrected.

I just checked mine on the bench. Injected signal from my audio generator into 
the Exciter (pin 24 on the TX interconnect board). Set the output of the 
generator to acheive 3k deviation at 1k. Then checked the 1/3 octaves from 160 
to 6300. I posted the graph in the files section of the group, but I found the 
peak at 1600Hz. I suppose I could do this again into the PL input to go around 
the stock audio processing, but this is the way I am going to use it..

However, I believe the audio tailoring I am hearing is actually caused on the 
RX side of things. The other file I posted in the group a few weeks ago (When I 
was checking adm vs non-adm) was measued by outputting a constant 3k dev on the 
service monitor at multiple audio frequencies and measuring the audio input 
going into the exciter thru the RX and 7K controller with an AC voltmeter. You 
will see on that graph there is most definatly a bump at 200-400Hz. I can 
double check, but the last time i swept a straight 7k it was pretty flat in 
audio response, so the tailoring must be caused by the RX or the AS board and 
the PL filtering (Which I am using).

I'm sure Kevin or someone else out here smarter than me has a logical 
explainationI'll wait to read it.

Tom
W9SRV

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, TGundo 2003 tgundo2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: TGundo 2003 tgundo2...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 12:04 AM
 Yes, I just measured mine out last
 week (again) and I believe I have the same thing. I will
 measure it exactly tommorow and post my findings.
 
 Tom
 W9SRV
 
 --- On Mon, 11/16/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 11:55 PM
  mzfb2001 wrote:
   I was looking in the files section and may have
 missed
  it, but I am
   looking to improve the transmit audio quality on
 my
  UHF transmiter.
   I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows
 its not
  tinny but its
   not what I would call normal audio from a Micor.
 The
  audio levels and
   on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to
 be
  on the money.
   This is an unmodified repeater station using
 stock
  cards and no
   controller. The receiver is stock and the
 frequency
  has been changed
   to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the
  receiver has fine
   audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or
  ideas. Thanks for
   your input Mike
   
  
  I don't have a real answer for you, but it's
 interesting
  that I have had 
  the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor
 UHF
  stations I 
  put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and
 roll
  off several 
  dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I
 get
  abt 4 out @ 
  400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K.
  Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF
 Micor
  station?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
      repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
  
  
  
 
 
       
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater

2009-11-16 Thread Jason C
Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy?  I've been looking around and 
keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having 
trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty 
cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.