Re: [SPAM] Re: [Repeater-Builder] for sale: 420 MHz linking radios, voter
I tried sending him a direct reply and haven't got an answer for days... Corey N3FE On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Fred Esteves wrote: Do you have prices --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: From: Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at Subject: [Repeater-Builder] for sale: 420 MHz linking radios, voter To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 11:01 AM Over the past two decades I've been accumulating gear to link all my repeaters together. But as I posted a few weeks back, I'm now linking everything with VoIP. There's at least three generations of equipment listed below, and I need to clear out the entire inventory in order to make space and help fund future repeater system development. Please make offers, equipment is located near Santa Cruz, CA: Hamtronics: 1 REP-200N 10 watt repeater w/no controller, type N connectors. RX is 441 MHz, TX is 420 MHz. 6 R304-2 UHF synthesized receiver, wired and tested, mounted in A89 enclosure 3 T304-2 UHF synthesized exciter, wired and tested, mounted in A88 enclosure Yaesu/Vertex: 1 Rare UHF-Low VXR-5000 repeater (40H259J) (spec for 400-420 MHz) w/internal AC power supply Icom: 40+ F420-9 403-430 MHz 32-channel mobile radio (25 in good condition, others have various issues, mostly display problems. Also have 16 custom cables to access internal connector discriminator audio + COS for use as link receiver, 8 custom cables to access internal connector TX audio + PTT for use as link transmitter. GE: 12+ Mastr Exec low-power full-duplex mobiles, 77 range (SX55FAS77A) with internal mobile duplexer Misc spare control heads, high-power Mastr Exec PAs, etc. LDG: 1 RVS-8 repeater voter Com-Spec: Handful of TS-64 CTCSS Encoder/Decoder 1 TP-3200 repeater tone panel (rack-mount) Motorola: 2+ Micor UHF mobile, converted to duplex repeater operation Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew. at
Re: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Completly Stumped on Noise (UHF Repeater)
If you are not using a duplexer I wouldn't think you would have a problem using either feedline. The problem with the doubleshielded feedline is when in duplex operation. If you arten't using a duplexer I would switch the feedline around and put the rg-58 on the TX and the lmr400 on the receiver. That way it would be on the higher antenna and have less line loss. You still don't have decent seperation but if you are hearing the noise with the transmitter shut off then something else is getting in to the receiver. Corey N3FE On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, agrimm0034 wrote: The receive radio has a 20 ft piece of RG-58 Belden and the TX radio has 40 ft of LMR 400. After I had already purchased and installed the LMR braid cable I then learned to my knowledge this was not recomended for duplex use and it could cause noise and other problems but there is no LMR on the receive end of the radio and it still does it when the TX radio is turned off. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote: Like Nate said, sounds like an intermod product with your transmitter being part of the mix. My standard question has become -- are you using any LMR400, 9913 or similar foil/braid coax anywhere in your system? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: agrimm0034 agrimm0...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Completly Stumped on Noise (UHF Repeater) This noise in my repeater has me completly stumped. I've tried everything I know possible to make it stop but nothing has helped. Here are some quick specs on what my repeater is... GMRS repeater RX 467.600 TX 462.600 DPL 054 TX 30 watts. My local repeater when I key opens up to a scratchy noise with the local police department in the background. It ONLY opens up when they key up the same time my repeater is being keyed. It is not perfectly clear it is scratchy but I have no idea how they are squeezing in on myn. I did find there frequency's and location of there repeater so mabye someone can help tell me what is wrong. Here is the Police Dept Repeater Details... PD Repeater - RX 460.4500 TX 465.4500 PL 6A 75 watt. (There tower is also located directly across from mine roughly 1/2 mile horizontally separated.) I've also tried changing my frequency and PL tones and it still has not made one bit of difference. I'f someone could help me out I'd gladly appreciate it. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Completly Stumped on Noise (UHF Repeater)
If you are having the issue with the transmitter off and listening to the local speaker on the receiver than it is not your interface box. I would try swapping the feedline around and see if the noise goes away. It might just be where you are placed on the tower. Remember RG-58 is very lossy. Corey N3FE On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, agrimm0034 wrote: Tell me if this makes sense or if I will just waste my time. The homebuilt controller I built and CAT 5 cables stripped inside of a plastic project box and they are bare. The only other thing I know that half way makes sense is that those cables are unshielded and when audio passes through them it could be picking up the very strong signal being radiated around them. Remember the PD tower is only about 1/2 mile straight shot away, very visible and they are humming a good 75 watts of power. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Corey Dean N3FE n...@... wrote: If you are not using a duplexer I wouldn't think you would have a problem using either feedline. The problem with the doubleshielded feedline is when in duplex operation. If you arten't using a duplexer I would switch the feedline around and put the rg-58 on the TX and the lmr400 on the receiver. That way it would be on the higher antenna and have less line loss. You still don't have decent seperation but if you are hearing the noise with the transmitter shut off then something else is getting in to the receiver. Corey N3FE On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, agrimm0034 wrote: The receive radio has a 20 ft piece of RG-58 Belden and the TX radio has 40 ft of LMR 400. After I had already purchased and installed the LMR braid cable I then learned to my knowledge this was not recomended for duplex use and it could cause noise and other problems but there is no LMR on the receive end of the radio and it still does it when the TX radio is turned off. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2edv@ wrote: Like Nate said, sounds like an intermod product with your transmitter being part of the mix. My standard question has become -- are you using any LMR400, 9913 or similar foil/braid coax anywhere in your system? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: agrimm0034 agrimm0034@ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Completly Stumped on Noise (UHF Repeater) This noise in my repeater has me completly stumped. I've tried everything I know possible to make it stop but nothing has helped. Here are some quick specs on what my repeater is... GMRS repeater RX 467.600 TX 462.600 DPL 054 TX 30 watts. My local repeater when I key opens up to a scratchy noise with the local police department in the background. It ONLY opens up when they key up the same time my repeater is being keyed. It is not perfectly clear it is scratchy but I have no idea how they are squeezing in on myn. I did find there frequency's and location of there repeater so mabye someone can help tell me what is wrong. Here is the Police Dept Repeater Details... PD Repeater - RX 460.4500 TX 465.4500 PL 6A 75 watt. (There tower is also located directly across from mine roughly 1/2 mile horizontally separated.) I've also tried changing my frequency and PL tones and it still has not made one bit of difference. I'f someone could help me out I'd gladly appreciate it. Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Noise on UHF
lol... I like that one. I actually think the noise is worse today. I am in North Central, PA about 20 miles south of the NY border. Everything cleared up about 7:00pm last night but it started again about 10:00 am this morning... It does sound like radar. I have heard it on other repeaters before but this is the most wide spread I have ever heard it. I was talking to a friend of mine down near Harrisburg who just put up a UHF machine at his house and he was hearing it as well on his UHF machine. No where near as bad as we are though. Corey N3FE On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Nate Duehr wrote: Yeah, but usually we just call them club members. :-) -- Nate Duehr Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2009, at 14:41, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: Is anyone hearing a strange noise (buzz/whine) on UHF? Chuck WB2EDV
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Noise on UHF
I am hearing it here in North Central PA as well It gets very bad at times. Corey N3FE On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote: OK, I was afraid of that. It's almost wiping out several repeaters here and can even be heard on simplex transmissions. Western NY and Western PA. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Adam Feuer feu...@optonline.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Noise on UHF Yes, I'm getting it in Rockland County, NY on one of my UHF machines. I'm told that the noise I'm hearing, which I only hear every blue moon, is some sort of military radar. Adam N2ACF Chuck Kelsey wrote: Is anyone hearing a strange noise (buzz/whine) on UHF? Chuck WB2EDV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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I am looking for a PDF version of the original Cat200 controller. I know the B version is on the cat site. Anyone have this available in PDF format? Corey N3FE
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF band opening
ahhh... ok. THat might explain why you couldn't hear me then. I had Buffalo stations using my 146.910 machine and 444.600 in Wellsboro was hearing A new Jersey station. That was pretty impressive. The WB2JPQ system was hearing the target system on 146.835 and the 835 in Eden, NY was hearing all the people on it's input... What an opening... Corey On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Ryan wrote: I was on top of Bald Eagle Mt. Williamsport getting our clubs 443.050 mastr Base on the air hearing signals grom ohio, to south at North carolina that use the same PL's as we do in this area. Ryan --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, what would you realign it to? I believe PAVE PAWS covers the entire band. There is no spectrum left to put them. Maybe they can move up to 450-451 as long as they don't cause interference to users there... (a dig on the D-STAR repeaters operating in non-repeater bands due to 'no repeater band spectrum left and non-interference where they are operating'). ;- Joe M. Glenn Shaw wrote: Its pretty much a moot point now in most of New Eng due to Pave Paws. Maybe it would be a good time forNESMC to realign things with all these 440 repeaters going QRT. Glenn N1GBY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF band opening I believe it was done to accomodate radios that would not TX well below 445 MHz. Those repeaters could use LIHO and TX well between 447 and 450 MHz. Yes, it's going to be 'fun' when the 12.5 kHz pairs come into use. Joe M. Bob Dengler wrote: Does anyone know why the New England bandplan has inverted 70 cm pairs every 25 kHz (unlike the rest of the country, which is either all + or all - 5 MHz)? 25 kHz isn't close enough for any adjacent channel issues to be a concern. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM Yahoo! Groups Links -- This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=6EAED299AE.E175A -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Making room - testing DSTAR
JUst like CW. I still use it and love it! I still use analog. When everyone goes digital, I will still use CW and analog! Corey N3FE On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, n9wys wrote: Gentle people, I've been sitting quietly on the sidelines, watching this thread progress. And I think that maybe it's time for me to jump in with my own opinions on digital vs. analog. (Whether it be P-25 or D-Star) Although I'm usually very open to newer technology, this digital (or better said, digitized) voice thing has me very concerned. As a public safety worker, I shudder to think that maybe some day I might need assistance and call for back-up, only to have my meaning misunderstood because a few syllables were dropped because of the CODEC. For example: how many people have told someone else on their cell phone that you sounded like you just went under water? (Especially with Nextel?) Or suddenly had your call discontinued - with no prior warning/indication? As ham radio operators, one of our missions is to pass critical traffic... we cannot fulfill that mission if the traffic cannot be properly received in the first place, whether it is because we cannot ourselves discern the message or it is obscured because of artificial means. My question is: why make it more difficult on ourselves to accomplish this mission by adding another layer of fallibility into the picture? Now in regard to the testing/repairing these D-Star systems... I didn't become a ham until later in life, although I've always had an interest in radio. But since I have, I continue to strive to be more than just an appliance operator... I need to be able to understand how it works, and if within my means, troubleshoot and/or repair it. Based on the earlier statement that the only way to test/repair these stations is to box and ship it back to the manufacturer, I feel we as Amateurs are taking a huge step backward, both for ourselves and for our hobby. I also feel we are doing the Amateur Radio Service itself a huge disservice, since one of the basic tenets of the Service itself is to Expan(d) the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts. [Part 97.1(d)] OK, flame-proof suit on... You may fire when ready, Gridley! 73 de Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Making room - testing DSTAR I take care of a pretty large EDACS system. There is a simulator built into my COM120B just for EDACS and LTR - even decodes pocsag paging. This is never used in setting up the base station/repeaters. The procedure uses simple deviation and receiver tests. Same with subscriber units - most (but certainly not all) problems can be caught in conventional mode. On the repeater receiver a sniff point on the discriminator output allows basic receiver testing. This does not simulate DSTAR but gets to a go/no go point. Kind of like the first DPL - I had to buy an aftermarket board and wire it to my CE50 service monitor - would encode and if the light went out on receive - would decode as well. I doubt any manufacturer will make a test set for a low volume product because there are not enough folks wanting to pay for a DSTAR tester. Next problem - if the thing is broke - I am not gonna go probing around surface mount chips with my simpson and weller - better to box and ship. Anyhow that another 2 cents - might make payroll if this keeps up... 73, Steve NU5D Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: And one more point - and it's a major one You can get P25 test equipment. Show me one piece of test equipment - an IFR, an HP, a General Dynamics (the folks that made some of Motorolas R-series of service monitors) or any other test equipment manufacturer that makes a dstar tester. Not even the manufacturer has one. So haw do you verify that a dstar system is actually working right? Yahoo! Groups Links -- This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=C3D1927EE1.B78AA -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF band opening
Hitting us here on VHF and UHF right now in North Central PA Corey N3FE On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Anyone else having a pretty big UHF band opening? It's been terrible here this morning and evening. Got one of the repeaters in our system locked up, and they all run tone squelch. Chuck WB2EDV -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF band opening
I have to agree with you on that... Now back to my PL discussion... Just joking... However. I have locked out of scan all but two of the Western PA repeaters I can hear here at the home QTH that DONT run a PL. Corey N3FE On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Chuck Kelsey wrote: One of the upside down pairs on UHF are killing one of our machines in Western New York. I wish that was never done. What a pain. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Corey Dean N3FE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF band opening Hitting us here on VHF and UHF right now in North Central PA Corey N3FE On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Anyone else having a pretty big UHF band opening? It's been terrible here this morning and evening. Got one of the repeaters in our system locked up, and they all run tone squelch. Chuck WB2EDV -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean. Yahoo! Groups Links -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by repeater.net, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Build er] Re: Frequency coordinator authority (was à  Re: subaudibe tones..)
Speaking of interference. I know MANY WPA repeaters don't run PL and
aren't required to. EPA (arcc-inc.org) has a PL requirement as well as
many other coordination bodies. You should hear WPA repeaters during a
band opening like we had last week!!!
Corey N3FE
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Ron Wright wrote:
Joe,
Our Florida coordinator has some recommendations on equipment specs on their
web site, but not part of any coordination.
Wonder what requirments your WPA state.
Just because an interference problem occurs might not be because of the
equipment. I would hope a coordinator would take a scientific approach to
look at a situation, not just look at the equipment. However, been my
experience few coordinators can take a scientific approach, but they do a
good job.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/09/03 Mon PM 09:57:01 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency coordinator authority (was
Re: subaudibe tones..)
Generally that is true, but in WPA if a case of interference comes
about, and the repeater causing the interference is not meeeing the
Council's recommended specs on equipment, goess who is going to be
solving that interference or losing their coordination? (in which case
it will be their responsibility to solve it under Part 97 as well)
Joe M.
Ron Wright wrote:
I think most repeater coordinators don't ask what equipment one is running
or going to use. This is how it is in Florida anyway. Besides most
coordinators don't know much about the equipment being used.
I think they just follow their coordinating policy (distant to co-channel
repeater, height of requested coord, power out, etc). If an interference
problem occurs they might be asked to get involved.
There are repeaters packages on e-bay made up of 2 Ham transceivers, but
probably go to some that are not familiar with what equipment, spec wise,
is desired, hi.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: George Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/09/03 Mon AM 11:49:07 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency coordinator authority (was
Re: subaudibe tones..)
Go back and re-read the original thread: this discussion has never been
about what one AGREES to... Bob made the claim that TASMA has control of
the technical standards for the repeaters it coordinates, and tried to cite
Part 97 to back up his claim:
At 9/1/2007 11:25, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 8/29/2007 09:46, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
{snip}
Sorry, I just assumed that a repeater coordinator's technical standards
would be a bit above the mess you describe above. I know we (TASMA)
wouldn't coordinate such a system.
(a repeater built from 2 mobile transceivers and a mobile duplexer)
Bob NO6B
You guys have control of the quality level of the equipment used when
issuing coordinations?
We have control of the technical operating parameters; see Part 97.3
(a)(22).
I pointed out that Part 97 only gives a frequency coordinator the power to
recommend technical parameters, not to control them, and certainly
not
to deny coordination based solely on the construction of the repeater, as
noted above. (A popular Motorola commercial repeater is, in fact, a pair
of
GM-300 mobiles and a mobile duplexer in a desktop housing. The D-Star 1.2
GHz repeater also consists of a pair of ID-1 mobiles mounted in the same
rack-mount chassis. Would TASMA deny them coordination?)
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
Yahoo! Groups Links
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727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency coordi nator authority (was ????Re: subaudi be tones..)
Oh yes, I do agree with you. Let's just say I can hear repeaters in EPA
that require a PL, but I can't work them because the WPA repeater has no
PL. I would be causing interference to a repeater in WPA when trying to use
the one that is PL'd. ARCC did a good thing requiring PL!!!
ok, I am going to let this go. Won't do any good anyway...
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, MCH wrote:
Every repeater in WPA (Minus ATV) has a CTCSS on their coordination.
Whether they choose to use it (full time, part time, or at all) is the
decision of the trustee. So if you don't care for what you heard,
contact the repeater trustee, as it was their decision to pass the
traffic and not enable CTCSS.
Joe M.
Corey Dean N3FE wrote:
Speaking of interference. I know MANY WPA repeaters don't run PL and
aren't required to. EPA (arcc-inc.org) has a PL requirement as well as
many other coordination bodies. You should hear WPA repeaters during a
band opening like we had last week!!!
Corey N3FE
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Ron Wright wrote:
Joe,
Our Florida coordinator has some recommendations on equipment specs on
their web site, but not part of any coordination.
Wonder what requirments your WPA state.
Just because an interference problem occurs might not be because of the
equipment. I would hope a coordinator would take a scientific approach to
look at a situation, not just look at the equipment. However, been my
experience few coordinators can take a scientific approach, but they do a
good job.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/09/03 Mon PM 09:57:01 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency coordinator authority (was
??? Re: subaudibe tones..)
Generally that is true, but in WPA if a case of interference comes
about, and the repeater causing the interference is not meeeing the
Council's recommended specs on equipment, goess who is going to be
solving that interference or losing their coordination? (in which case
it will be their responsibility to solve it under Part 97 as well)
Joe M.
Ron Wright wrote:
I think most repeater coordinators don't ask what equipment one is
running or going to use. This is how it is in Florida anyway. Besides
most coordinators don't know much about the equipment being used.
I think they just follow their coordinating policy (distant to co-channel
repeater, height of requested coord, power out, etc). If an interference
problem occurs they might be asked to get involved.
There are repeaters packages on e-bay made up of 2 Ham transceivers, but
probably go to some that are not familiar with what equipment, spec wise,
is desired, hi.
73, ron, n9ee/r
From: George Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/09/03 Mon AM 11:49:07 CDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency coordinator authority (was
Re: subaudibe tones..)
Go back and re-read the original thread: this discussion has never been
about what one AGREES to... Bob made the claim that TASMA has control
of
the technical standards for the repeaters it coordinates, and tried to
cite
Part 97 to back up his claim:
At 9/1/2007 11:25, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 8/29/2007 09:46, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
{snip}
Sorry, I just assumed that a repeater coordinator's technical
standards
would be a bit above the mess you describe above. I know we (TASMA)
wouldn't coordinate such a system.
(a repeater built from 2 mobile transceivers and a mobile duplexer)
Bob NO6B
You guys have control of the quality level of the equipment used when
issuing coordinations?
We have control of the technical operating parameters; see Part 97.3
(a)(22).
I pointed out that Part 97 only gives a frequency coordinator the power
to
recommend technical parameters, not to control them, and certainly
not
to deny coordination based solely on the construction of the repeater, as
noted above. (A popular Motorola commercial repeater is, in fact, a
pair of
GM-300 mobiles and a mobile duplexer in a desktop housing. The D-Star
1.2
GHz repeater also consists of a pair of ID-1 mobiles mounted in the same
rack-mount chassis. Would TASMA deny them coordination?)
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
Yahoo! Groups Links
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Want to fire me off a copy as well. I like to see the different ways it is done. Maybe then I will pull the micor back out and see how I did it!!! Thanks! Corey N3FE - Original Message - From: Dave Hough To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Have done a Micor repeater using the CAT-200 controller. It's really quite easy to do. Pull all the cards except the Station Control and the F1 PL Decoder. A mid split PA will work if the output is 147.00 but I don't think a high split PA will last very long. Strongly suggest if yours is not a low split machine you contact Kevin Custer and get the receiver front end recoiled. Guarantee it will make at least .25 microvolts difference in sensitivity. Well worth the money. Have my diagram of the backplane of how and where COR, CTSS, Audio and power are picked off. Will .pdf and send it to you if you need it. There's a couple of other things you need to do to turn it into a repeater if its configured as a base unit but no problem. Hope this helps. Dave, W7GK Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been suggested that before one adds a controller to the repeater it is best to have it repeat in it's original configuration. This unit was part of the VHF Provincial Mobile Telephone system and in its present form I can get it to repeat only after dialing the code that puts the transmitter on continuously. Eventually after being quiet for a time (no COS) the transmitter times out and you have to dial up to get it to operate again. Presently it has the following cards installed, left to right, Decoder filter STLN89HDT, TC Logic, Logic Module STLN932, Squelch Gate TLN4662A, Jackfield Module, Time Out Timer TRN8684A, Tel. Interface, Station control module TLN4635B, Line Driver Module. I am sure there is a reader to tell me that most of this stuff can be pulled out and a jumper changed here or there will get it going in a normal fashion. I hate to put a quick and dirty COS gate and relay on the Back Plane when a simple change to a plug in module will get it going. Receiver and Transmitter tuned up on the 144/145 band perfectly. Lots of good reading on this site, thanks for this opportunity, 73, Gordon. -- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2241 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
[Repeater-Builder] equipment for sale...
Ifr-1000 Service monitor. This comes with the manual, upgraded power supply and an extra cooling fan. This Service monitor works great and the scope display works like new. $800.00 Ge Master II repeater (base station style) with the continuous 40 watt PA. There is also an extra fan on it. It is tuned for 444.600 with the stock receive PL deck set at 127.3. You can change this if you wish. It also comes with the stock UHS preamp. This also has a Link-Comm RLC2 Repeater controller and has great audio. This will include the manual for the controller as well and will be shipped in two boxes. I do not have the manual for the Master II. I also have TX/RX Band Pass/Band Reject duplexers on it. $1000.00 for this repeater/duplexer/controller. Please reply directly to n3fe at repeater.net as I watch the list in digest mode. Corey N3FE
[Repeater-Builder] Re: [REPEATER] Eric Homa's Amateur Repeater Builders Home Page appears to be back!
Yes, it returned about 1 month or more ago... Corey On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Kevin Custer wrote: It appears that Eric Homa's (N6NMZ) Amateur Repeater Builders Home Page is back up and running. The old web address forwards to a new domain and URL of: http://www.hamrepeater.org/ Kevin Custer To unsubscribe from this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF audio adjustment
Russ, Are you using the stock controller or a third party controller? Corey N3FE IRLP Nodes 4100 4482 Reflector 905 Those are deviation and ctcss levels, they won't help a 'bassy' sounding repeater. What you need to do is follow the audio lines in and out to see what components and where the de-emphasis was made, compare the values you have to the repeater builder web site audio recomendations to get the level improved. russcrisp wrote: greetings everyone. i have a mastr II uhf repeater (not a mobile) that i just had retuned from the public safety band down into the amateur band. the audio seems a little 'bassy', and the level seems a bit low. anyone know how to adjust the audio controls on the exciter? i see a couple of pots, but don't know what they are.. can someone tell me what they are? i need to clean this up.. best regards! russ crisp cullowhee, nc http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, ß227, Any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee of $500.00 U.S.. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SWR between radio and duplexer
Working for me. I will email it directly to you... Corey N3FE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SWR between radio and duplexer In a message dated 1/4/2004 8:54:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.emrcorp.com/catalog/FullLine/HARDWARE/accessories/HW_FILT_LINEMAT CH_LOAD.pdf Cannot bring up site. Says web site not responding. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 12/30/2003 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Tuning tools
Anyone know the part numbers for the tuning tools at Rat Shack (radio shack) I need to order a few parts, so I figured I would get an extra set. Corey N3FE Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query
AC0Y, I wouldn't mind seeing how you did your Mod. I picked up a micor from a friend and it was done the same way without any cards. Basically the receiver and transmitter. No Control cards at all. I can see the jumpers you are talking about, but would like to see what else you did and I am hoping to be able to relate it to this micor. Corey N3FE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query Conrad, I just finished doing a full conversion to a MSR2000 wireline station. First get the channel elements recrystaled and put them in and try to align the station. I don't remember the freq breaks. the mod that I came up with removed All controll cards and put in about 3 jumpers on the back plain with push on conectors. The station is one of the best stations in the area. First the Manual is two parts one for the control shelf one for the radio. let me know how it goes. If you need assistance just let me know I'll be glad to help. 73 AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/2003 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Hi / I am new]]
Linking on 2 meters? Maybe on 220 Corey N3FE There is always the split site solution for 6M repeaters, where your transmitter and receiver reside in two separate locations linked by a 2M or 70cm freq. Its always a possibility but getting two sites of equal coverage can be a bit time consuming but for 6M it would be my first choice -Original Message- From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:20 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Hi / I am new]] putting a 6 meter repeater on the air is going to be a lot more trouble compared to 2 meters or UHF. I've been a ham 20 years and have put several repeaters on the air for 6 meters thru 440 MHz. John Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] ArGoSoft Mailing List Server
Looks like one of the other moderators took care of this before I got a chance to get it... I believe KE3UC is the moderator to thank for disabling his posts. Corey N3FE List Moderator -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ArGoSoft Mailing List Server Command Command not understood. Please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], containing word HELP as the first non-blank line for the list of available commands. ArGoSoft Mailing List Server Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/2003 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Fw: If guys designed Christmas wrapping paper ....
I don't think was related to repeater-building! -Original Message-From: NØATH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:56 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; N9HG Weird HaroldSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Fw: If guys designed Christmas wrapping paper Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
