RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - UHF Amplifier
Larry, Last week there was someone trying to sell several Henry UHF amps on the list. You may want to check your email box. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Watkinson Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - UHF Amplifier K5In and I are looking for a couple of UHF Amplifier's that will have 10 to 25 watts in and 70 to 100 watts out. We would prefer n-connectors but will accept other connectors. Thanks, Larry KC7CKO
RE: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch consoles
Use the Telex Nexus consol and you will need two IP223 units. You will be much happier this way. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:32 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch consoles Hey guys, Thought i would throw this out there. The ambulance company i work for, we are thinking perhaps of putting in a dispatch console, we're so busy with calls, that it makes more sense, and we wanna do some more things. We're gonna have 3, possibly 4 channels. I was thinking perhaps a zetron 4010, but perhaps someone has another idea. Remember, we're dealing with dumb dispatchers, so simple is the name of the game, buttons no mouse to key the moc. I'm a big fan of the kiss theory, keep it simple stupid. We may possibly send off 2 tones on one of our channels. Any thoughts? My thought was perhaps to look for a used console, not sure what these consoles go for new. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Invar Rods
Hi Joe, Sounds like a Tommy Rea deal. He used to cut the rods off on all of the Sinclair resloc UHF duplexers. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:57 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Invar Rods Glenn, I need 6 of them for a Sinclair duplexer that I have. Someone cut the rods off when it was originally on a commercial frequency. The rods in my duplexer are so short that it will not tune below 147 MHz before they disappear inside the top of the cavity. I can get some dimensions for you to see if the ones you have may work. Thanks, Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaill...@... wrote: Does anyone need INVAR rods? I salvaged some from a TV audio / video RF combiner. 73 Glenn WB4UIV
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 series receive sensativity
Your repeater should receive good to a -120db. You can get it a bit better with some time tunning. If your repeater is out of the box it will be def and will need to be tunned. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K5IN Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 series receive sensativity Good afternoon, I am curious as to the receive sensitivity on these units when in the amateur repeater duty. Receive would be 445-447mhz. Preamp necessary? What about driving an amp: any recommendation there? An amp putting out 60-80 watts. Thanks, Brian, k5in
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 series receive sensativity
Pre Amp is ok if you use band pass in front of the pre amp. The henry amp should give you good service. If it's a 100watt model run it at 80 watts. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K5IN Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 series receive sensativity Thanks Mike, so you are saying no preamp needed and any recommendations for an amp to be combined with the rig. I have a Henry UHF amp in hand. I would think any amp would work with simple RF out of the repeater. Am just curious more about sensitivity than anything. Thanks - Original Message - From: k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 series receive sensitivity Your repeater should receive good to a -120db. You can get it a bit better with some time tuning. If your repeater is out of the box it will be def and will need to be tuned. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K5IN Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 series receive sensitivity Good afternoon, I am curious as to the receive sensitivity on these units when in the amateur repeater duty. Receive would be 445-447mhz. Preamp necessary? What about driving an amp: any recommendation there? An amp putting out 60-80 watts. Thanks, Brian, k5in
RE: [Repeater-Builder] MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted
Hi Larry, Are they reject 5Meg split Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larryjspamme...@teleport.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted I have some VHF WACOM and TX/RX 6-cavity duplexers available (WA State). Larry lar...@teleport. mailto:lar...@teleport.com com -Original Message- From: Larry Taylor Sent: Jul 12, 2010 10:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted Hi! I would like to get a REC Channel Element for a MSR2000 that will tune to 146.00MHZ range. I have acquired from EBAY most of what I need to make a repeater. The element and a Set of Duplexer I'll have it whipped!! Any help out there??? Larry Taylor KF6JBG Home: cvrcsoaring (AT) earthlink (Dot) net
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Converting the Kenwood TKR-820 to use with D-STAR
Why not just install a Motorola Mototrbo XPR8300 repeater and call it done. If you want to have data on one port and voice on the other you can or for a single site you can add the mix mode option and have digital and analog in the same repeater. If you would prefer to IP site connect them you can have a local channel and link channel. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n2...@hvc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Converting the Kenwood TKR-820 to use with D-STAR I would think making it a Dual Mode rptr. relatively simple.. You would need to built a A/B switch to switch from the D-Star controller to a Normal rptr. controller.. I simple 4PDT relay would would work.. Since the D-Star controller doesn't use COR and I doubt it uses and any kind if CTCSS, you could add a CTCSS decoder w/ a little hang time to drive the A/B switch.. Or you could use the COR line from the rprt. to drive the switch, using the CTCSS decode line to only allow the COR to activate the switch if the CTCSS is not present. The latter solution is more logic driven and does not have to worry about making the Hang time of the switch match up Hang time of the rptr.. Either way, it should be fairly straight forward.. As Mike has already pointed out, you do have the problem with 2 different groups trying to use the rptr.. -Pete N2MCI --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Mark n9...@... wrote: John, I currently am Trustee for a TKR-820 operating on 444.5500. I wonder - is this conversion dual-mode capable, meaning, can it be accessed BOTH via D-STAR and analog radios, or does it render analog access unusable? I do not want to do this if it eliminates analog access, since this is an Emergency Management-affiliated repeater and many users in my area are not D-STAR capable. As such, I'd have to maintain a dual-mode system, similar to those using Motorola QUANTAR repeaters for digital (APCO 25) as well as analog access. Next questions is, my machine is a multi-receive site (read: SpectraTAC) system - is the D-STAR processing done on the FINAL received signal before being passed to the transmitter, or would I need to convert all the receivers in the system to be compatible? In my system, I do not use the internal receiver in the TKR-820 - I feed a voted signal in from the comparator for repeat. Photos of my system (with one receiver configured) can be seen at the Repeater-Builder Yahoo group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/613821601/pic/li st Look at those associated with WW9AE If it can be configured for a dual-mode/multi-RX site configuration, I might seriously consider adapting our machine. Thanks! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John My conversion project is at: http://k7ve.org/blog/2010/06/converting-the-kenwood-tkr-820-to-use-with-d-st ar/ 73 de K7VE
[Repeater-Builder] Telewave UHF Antenna
Does anybody have a surplus or used set of the ANT450D3 2 loop UHF Dipole Antennas laying around they may want to get rid of. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693
RE: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters
Kevin, I agree that its hard to bet Motorola but since the firmware is not even released yet for the repeater how can you say the Voip stinks. Also you say when you stick 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound cabinet your going to have trouble. Crap, if you were to see what is inside the repeater I think you will change your perception. I will snap a few photos today and send them to the list. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kevin valentino Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters The voip stinks, tried mnany of them, nothin beats made in USA just an overworked opinion. Great as a repeater only, watch out for overheating. When you stick 10 pounds of crap in a five pound cabinet, trouble --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Gareth Bennett gare...@es.co.nz wrote: From: Gareth Bennett gare...@es.co.nz Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:40 PM Hi Group, Just curious if anyone has had a play with the new HYT (HYTERA) RD982 series of repeater, and more importantly the Ethernet connectivity. Certainly the gear looks good on paper and in real life, but interested in feedback on anybody that has had a chance of really giving it a workout. Cheers Gareth Bennett RadioSystems P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand gare...@radsys. co.nz http://us.mc837.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gare...@radsys.co.nz
RE: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters
Yes, the only thing both radios will not do is text between both models. Motorola is not doing there text features to the DMR standard and Hytera is. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Biggie Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:19 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters That's great new I'm wondering if the xpr6550 IDs can read a hytera radio 73's de K2QQJ On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:24 AM, k7...@skybeam.com mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com wrote: HI Gareth, Just to mention that both the portable and mobile work on the IPSC system just fine and have not noticed any issues. The only feature that is not compatible with the XPR radios is the text messaging between a Motorola and Hytera but all other functions work just fine. Also the screen is very nice to look at since its 3x the size of the XPR radio. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters Hi Group, Just curious if anyone has had a play with the new HYT (HYTERA) RD982 series of repeater, and more importantly the Ethernet connectivity. Certainly the gear looks good on paper and in real life, but interested in feedback on anybody that has had a chance of really giving it a workout. Cheers Gareth Bennett RadioSystems P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand gare...@radsys.co.nz mailto:garethb%40radsys.co.nz
RE: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters
Looks very interesting and I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to copy there repeater. It looks like a good one to copy at that. I did get your other message earlier. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters Hi Mike, That's what I've heard as well. What I have briefly learnt about the RD982 platform is that it has been carefully designed after learning from other vendors mistakes and LEARNING from them. The quality is such that one could re-badge the radio as a new generation Motorola and get away with it. I know for a fact that Motorola are very concerned about HYT. The RD982 platform has been loosely based on the Australian Spectra Engineering MX900 series of repeaters, which ironically is rebadged and sold to MOTOROLA as the MXD1500 series of base station. This infrastructure is well respected in the professional industry. See: http://www.spectrae http://www.spectraeng.com.au/mx800.shtml ng.com.au/mx800.shtml Mike, did you get my private message earlier? Cheers Gareth Bennett RadioSystems P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand gare...@radsys. mailto:gare...@radsys.co.nz co.nz - Original Message - From: k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters Yes, the only thing both radios will not do is text between both models. Motorola is not doing there text features to the DMR standard and Hytera is. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Biggie Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:19 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters That's great new I'm wondering if the xpr6550 IDs can read a hytera radio 73's de K2QQJ On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:24 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: HI Gareth, Just to mention that both the portable and mobile work on the IPSC system just fine and have not noticed any issues. The only feature that is not compatible with the XPR radios is the text messaging between a Motorola and Hytera but all other functions work just fine. Also the screen is very nice to look at since its 3x the size of the XPR radio. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters Hi Group, Just curious if anyone has had a play with the new HYT (HYTERA) RD982 series of repeater, and more importantly the Ethernet connectivity. Certainly the gear looks good on paper and in real life, but interested in feedback on anybody that has had a chance of really giving it a workout. Cheers Gareth Bennett RadioSystems P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand gare...@radsys. mailto:garethb%40radsys.co.nz co.nz
RE: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters
Ho Gareth, Hytera has said that the repeater will be able to eventually site connect with other Hytera repeaters like Motorola IPSC system. Currently they are working on the firmware to come out with the ability to release this feature. I just received my dealer demo repeater and looks nice, it does in fact have the Ethernet board inside, first thing I looked at when I opened the box. Very nice layout inside the repeater. The receiver and exciter is carved out of a solid piece of aluminum and has a separate PA. I can send you guys some pictures if you want. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters Hi Group, Just curious if anyone has had a play with the new HYT (HYTERA) RD982 series of repeater, and more importantly the Ethernet connectivity. Certainly the gear looks good on paper and in real life, but interested in feedback on anybody that has had a chance of really giving it a workout. Cheers Gareth Bennett RadioSystems P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand gare...@radsys. mailto:gare...@radsys.co.nz co.nz
RE: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters
HI Gareth, Just to mention that both the portable and mobile work on the IPSC system just fine and have not noticed any issues. The only feature that is not compatible with the XPR radios is the text messaging between a Motorola and Hytera but all other functions work just fine. Also the screen is very nice to look at since its 3x the size of the XPR radio. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DMR Repeaters Hi Group, Just curious if anyone has had a play with the new HYT (HYTERA) RD982 series of repeater, and more importantly the Ethernet connectivity. Certainly the gear looks good on paper and in real life, but interested in feedback on anybody that has had a chance of really giving it a workout. Cheers Gareth Bennett RadioSystems P.O. Box 5202 Dunedin 9024 New Zealand gare...@radsys. mailto:gare...@radsys.co.nz co.nz
RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary
I replaced two in two ASRON power supplies that got zapped with 220 and seem to be still working. I would recommend getting a good brand if you have the resource. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kq7dx Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary Hello to group, Is putting a MOV from hot to ground, neutral to ground, on the primary of the transformer of the power supply a good idea.. I have a ICE surge suppressor on in front as well but thought I would put more inside the supply for back up. Also, are the MOVs that radio shack sell any good. Rated at 130VAC. Any body used them... Last question: when MOVs fail or take a surge do they fail in a shorted condition taking out the fuse till the MOV can be replaced, or do they blow or fail open leaving the supply working. Thanks for the help.. 73s
RE: [Repeater-Builder] SEA-PAC
HI Ken, Wish I was going to be there. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] SEA-PAC We look forward to meeting you good folks at the 2010 SEA-PAC Ham Convention this coming weekend in beautiful Seaside, Oregon! As always, we'll have our booth there so stop by and say hi! http://seapac.org/ Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards
HI Joe, We have access to 5 VHF MRS2000 repeaters and cant even get rid of them since only people who will be able to use them are HAMS. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking For MSR2000 UHF RX and TX Boards Eric, I don't think they are landfill material yet. I think you will find that there is many of them still in service. I know in one of the sites here locally in Southern Oregon, my Micor ham repeater is surrounded by 5 MSR2000 VHF repeaters still in commercial service. You have to remember that they were the replacement for the Micor line of radio. Most agencies and businesses in a lot of areas that had Micor repeaters did not replace them with the MSR2000 radios as Motorola had hoped. When Motorola built the Micor it was over-designed, over-built, and super reliable. Motorola sold them like hot cakes at a fireman's breakfast to just about everybody that had a need for a repeater. When the MSR2000 came out the Micor was still king of the mountain and most customers and tech's did not see the need to replace a relatively new perfectly good working repeater, simply because Motorola had a new offering. In my experiences and observations there was a fewer number of the MSR series of radios that were sold when compared to the Micor series. I have seen quite a few of MSR VHF repeaters come out of service, but have not seen any UHF MSR's at all around here. Overall in looking for some myself, I have seen more UHF MSF5000 series repeaters surplus than UHF MSR2000 repeaters. Good luck with your project. Don't give up, there has to be some of these radios out there somewhere. If you come across a gross of them somewhere I am looking for a couple myself. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Eric Grabowski ejgrabow...@... wrote: It's hard to believe that all of these are already in the landfill, but maybe that is indeed the case. Bummer! It looked like these would have made a fun project. Oh well.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TK 880 quest
I have a line of of over 1000 of these units that are used and will be available within few weeks. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TK 880 quest At 04:28 AM 5/14/2010, Com/Rad Inc wrote: hello Group We are looking to purchase 50 to 70 TK880 radios. Prefer the group II series and if you have KCT 19s attached all the better Pls state quantity, price and condition ---TK-880's are obsolete and discontinued by Kenwood. The replacement is the TK-8180 I will write to you offlist Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ trollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp.net/ net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
[Repeater-Builder] Any Used Mototrbo Repeaters
Anybody out there have any used UHF low split XPR8300 repeater for sale they want to get rid of. We need it for a new site going in for the HAM system here in Colorado. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radius SM-120, Programming information wanted
These radios work killer for link radios in the 430 band. You have to hex edit the software but many are still in operation to date. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Eric Lemmon wrote: Jim, The same manuals cover both the SM50 and the SM120, as follows: Service Manual 6880903Z45, about $22 RSS (Programming) Manual 6880902Z78, about $15 A standard RLN4008 RIB and the HKN9217 programming cable are specified, but almost any setup that works with Radius, GM300, and MaxTrac will be fine. Be aware that the HVN9007 RSS is designed to work in pure DOS 6.22 on an older 286 or 386 computer that has a serial comm port. It will NOT work in a DOS window or a command prompt within any version of Windows, nor with a USB port. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kh6...@netscape.net Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Radius SM-120, Programming information wanted What software Rib interface is used on a Motorola SM-120? Where can I locate the information on programming Motorola SM-120? Thanks for your time. 73's, Jim Kh6jkg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)
Yes, Tetra 4 slot TDMA over a 25Khz channel, Phase 1 P25 12.5Khz digital over a single channel, NXDN Kenwood Icom FDMA 6.25 KHz digital and DMR standard is TDMA digital over a 12.5khz channel witch is 6.25Khz. I wish Tetra was here in the USA but were too stupid to think we could follow of what every other country is using. Maybe in another 20 years, by that time Europe will have 8 slot TDMA and we will be using 4 slot, go figure. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Storer, Darren Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters) Don't forget Tetra, which is huge in Europe... 73 de Darren G7LWT On 7 April 2010 13:11, Doug Bade k...@thebades. mailto:k...@thebades.net net wrote: There are several. Harris- OpenSky, P25 Phase 2 are currently being deployed, and Iden ( Nextel ) Motorola has a version for municipals. I do not know if anyone ever built it but I saw it on proposals a few years back. It almost sounds like you're talking about a trunked (multi-site) system though, and I don't know of any trunked TDMA-based commercial offerings in the 2-way radio market. Anyone else heard of one? -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech. mailto:nate%40natetech.com com Welcome to Mom Connection! Share stories, news and more with http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=15o3dc40l/M=493064.13814537.13965224.10835568/D =groups/S=1705063108:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1270628897/L=c0e38d88-420e-11df-b597-5 fb6cdd9016b/B=cEt5A2KJiV0-/J=1270621697815987/K=fQ4TlPwyAsbwR0xV0iWe7Q/A=604 2764/R=0/SIG=11jbo19n3/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/momconnection moms like you. Image removed by sender. _ Hobbies http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=15ogdepgv/M=493064.14012770.13963757.13298430/D =groups/S=1705063108:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1270628897/L=c0e38d88-420e-11df-b597-5 fb6cdd9016b/B=cUt5A2KJiV0-/J=1270621697815987/K=fQ4TlPwyAsbwR0xV0iWe7Q/A=601 5306/R=0/SIG=11vlkvigg/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/hobbiesandactivit ieszone/ Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Image removed by sender. http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJjOG84dGViBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwN DE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDZ2ZwBHN0aW1lAzEyNzA2MjE2OTc- Image removed by sender. Yahoo! Groups Switch to: mailto:repeater-builder-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change%20delive ry%20Format:%20Traditional Text-Only, mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email%20delivery:%20 Digest Daily Digest . mailto:repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=unsubscribe Unsubscribe . http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Use . Image removed by sender. image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)
Yep, were all aware of the issues here in the USA. On my commercial TDMA system I did a test 75miles away from the site with a portable and get back into the site with no problem. Way out of the FCC license but works great. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters) On 4/7/2010 11:47 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: Yes, Tetra 4 slot TDMA over a 25Khz channel, Phase 1 P25 12.5Khz digital over a single channel, NXDN Kenwood Icom FDMA 6.25 KHz digital and DMR standard is TDMA digital over a 12.5khz channel witch is 6.25Khz. I wish Tetra was here in the USA but were too stupid to think we could follow of what every other country is using. Maybe in another 20 years, by that time Europe will have 8 slot TDMA and we will be using 4 slot, go figure. Yeah, Tetra is a good format. The 'official' line on why you don't see it in the US (yet) is that propagation delays prevent a user from going beyond a certain distance from a site (which is true), and that that distance is rather short, requiring so many sites it would be impractical out in the sparsely populated parts of the west (with a 7 call you probably know what I mean). Europe doesn't have that problem too much. Yes, there is licensing issues here in the states though. Unlike P25, where about the only licensing a mfg has to contend with is DVSI (which hits everyone on equally hard), Motorola has some of the rights to Tetra, and they have until recently been reluctant to license it in the US. Now there is a group getting Tetra available in the US, and you may see some systems in 5 years or so. It'll be good for an urban area, but you won't see it much outside of big cities. It would be a bad choice for a state-wide system. Except maybe in RI. Course I don't think 700/800/900 is a good choice for a state-wide system anyway...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor
Unless you have a Aeroflex 3920 with the options you can scan DStar as well as Mototrbo and all others. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:24 AM, MCH wrote: If you don't count the Icom scanning receivers. They CAN decode D-STAR. Joe M. Kris Kirby wrote: There's also a substantial base of users who like D-STAR because there isn't a scanner that can decode it.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone try the new ID-O-Matic 2?
No but we have used one for the portable ham repeater using two CDM1250 radios and a RICK unit that has no CWID. I used the link port of the controller to use the IDER and works flawless. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:45 PM, AJ wrote: http://www.hamgadgets.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=108 Looks like it might be a very -very- _very_ simple option for a temp repeater setup..
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mototrbo Information Website
We got the www.hamtrbo.org web site up and running. The site will have most all the information needed to build or post your current system information for users to access your systems. The Forum is where you want to register. Mike K7PFJ Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com
[Repeater-Builder] Mototrbo System Owners
Hi All, I know this may not be the place to post this but most of us repeater builders use the very beneficial repeater builder reflector to get the word out. Here is a web site we all can post system information for the new DMR Digital Mototrbo systems being built for ham radio. The web site is hosted by the Rocky Mountain Ham Radio servers. There also will have documents on the web site that will benefit system and users to answer most questions about the system and how it works. www.hamtrbo.org Sincerely, Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850
Norm,. Good to talk this evening and hope you get the repeater singing soon. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:42 PM, k4gfd tds.net wrote: I looking for info on the Kenwood TKR-850 repeater will it tune to 444.9750 tx I have the rx tuned is there a mod any info will be help ful -- Norm Scholer k4...@tds.net 850-251-6430
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
Kris, Mototrbo is not DStar and DStar only has one voice path. Just to add some confussion to the mix, There are many public safety agencies using Mototrbo and love it. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Mar 14, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Kris Kirby wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Nate Duehr wrote: That's one of the mildly interesting things about TRBO, it's not a Public Safety system. It's commercial, but rarely used in Public Safety... Perhaps what you're saying (paraphrased here) is MotoTRBO is D-STAR done by Americans.? LOL... that'll get me in trouble, I'm sure. D-STAR requires too much work to be effective at message passing for any one except for the technically inclined who like to push buttons. It is trunking radio, minus the control channel, and all of the functions performed by the control channel are delegated to the user. MotoTRBO would be akin to an LTR system, or another trunking system, with the built-in capability for handling high-speed data. High speed as in 9600 bps, not 100-200 bps. If there is one thing that seems certain in the PS arena, it is that Motorola is trying to sell every solution except something APCO-25 compliant, and attempting to confuse thier customers into purchasing systems which are not. Not to say that they have bad ideas -- MotoTRBO brings in the experience of iDen to two-way radio, but the FCC pushing for more narrow-banded technologies, not dual channel solutions. Am I fully OT or not? If so, I'll STFU. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
This is why public safety has its own band and spectrum. Where the hell is our beloved ARRL fighting for our spectrum and fighting off these goons. There is a lot of spectrum in the 220Mhz, why don't they use this since its hardly used in the commercial market. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Henry Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:15 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation. Hams get the shaft again... George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
No they will just cry like the military did with the PAVE PAWS SHIT. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Ah George, Don't worry! The first time the device fails to deliver the goods to the Public Safety guys, they'll stop using it. Good luck to them. They'll have fun running up against the 1,000watt erp of many 70cm repeaters. 73, Dave Wa3gin _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Henry Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:15 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation. Hams get the shaft again... George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
Yea, well from where I see it there is a new chief in town and he don't have a clue. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band On 3/3/2010 1:11 PM, Richard wrote: I feel a little pessimistic about this, in that I expect it to happen more frequently as time passes. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help feeling that we are going to gradually lose our spectrum as companies with deep pockets buy our frequencies out from under us. Richard www.n7tgb.net http://www.n7tgb.net/ Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. -- Ronald Reagan All we have to do is prove our use of the Spectrum is more valuable than a radio controlled robot. Oh wait... Nate WY0X
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Oh, yes I agree with you. Its going to come to a head here in a few years. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do all digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank. Nate WY0X On 2/15/2010 11:30 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: What ?? Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used car for the price of one rig. LOL! Nate
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Nate, I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tom Parker wrote: Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. What specific radio will do both NXDN and P25... and what would firmware loads to do both legally, cost? Carrying a laptop and switching when needed, isn't a problem these days. Would be nice to get dual bang-for-buck, so to speak. -- Nate Duehr n...@natetech. mailto:nate%40natetech.com com facebook.com/denverpilot twitter.com/denverpilot
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Mark, Yes they plan to have a Mototrbo aka Vertex radio for sale here really soon. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:27 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one easy, quick and dirty way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting. Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart. http://www.scheart.us/ us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
What ?? Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used car for the price of one rig. LOL! Nate
[Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Eric, Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the radios and not using there DStar radios. Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone application being tossed around as well. I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and converted it to Mototrbo. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Eric, There are currently about 50 radios that have the ham systems programmed into their radios. I would say that there will by the end of next month, there should be 50 or so hams that have radios in the Colorado area. The emails are flying around this area on how to acquire radios and get on the systems etc. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Hi Eric, Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com http://www.usedmoto http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ trbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the radios and not using there DStar radios. Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone application being tossed around as well. I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and converted it to Mototrbo. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Word has it that later this year there will be P25 flash for the trbo radio but will work on both from what I hear. My 2 cents as well. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Parker Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. my 2 cents MCH wrote: And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one easy, quick and dirty way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting. Mark - N9WYS *From:* Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us http://www.scheart. http://www.scheart.us/ us/ The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
HYT will offer it at the IWCE this year and will get broshures and info for the new web site. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Vertex MotoTrbo product is just a re-badged and watered down Motorola product and nothing more. No point re-inventing the wheel for the big M, and also they need to compromise in the marketplace, without upsetting their Motorola Sales/Dealers. HYT will be the ones to watch as their gear is Trbo backwards compatible. Cheers Gareth Bennett - Original Message - From: Mark mailto:n9...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart. http://www.scheart.us/ us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TRBO-6 Demonstration Vehicle / Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Mike, Here in Colorado there has been an overwhelming interest especially in the volunteers for served agencies like ARES and RACES. I do have to say that it is very exciting and am very glad I swapped the analog repeater. I think I can echo all repeater owners around the country that there is about 1 analog repeater to every 5 hams. All you have to do is ask your local coordinator and he or she will echo the same response. Not only by going to digital weather it is P25 or TDMA or Dstar we all are advancing the hobby and being more efficient in the spectrum we occupy. Your TRBO-6 group is a prime example that you chose to link via Ethernet and not run Full-Duplex links everywhere. If I were to build the Oregon Repeater Group over again. Now called the Oregon Connection. Linking via Ethernet would have been much less costly and audio is always the same, no matter how many links that are connected to a point. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wb6wui Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TRBO-6 Demonstration Vehicle / Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems I have 71 Aliases in my codeplug for the 9 UHF boxes on the TRBO-6 IPSC Network as of this morning. Seems like I add something everyday, and it's a bit of a pain keeping for different plugs synced. It is a blast and I must echo Mike in that the enthusiasm is very high in our growing group. One of our members, Moni (KC2KRW) went to the Orlando Hamcation with his TRBO repeater mounted in his SUV on a 3/4G broadband card. We did demo's all day yesterday for many of the groups Moni brought together inside and out in the tailgate area. Mom should have sponsored this efforts. Check out the rig. http://www.kc2krw. http://www.kc2krw.com/kc2krw/XPR8300.html com/kc2krw/XPR8300.html Moni drove 180 miles to the Hamfest and never was out of his coverage area. ;-) -- Mike, WB6WUI, Mazama, WA --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, k7...@... wrote: There are currently about 50 radios that have the ham systems programmed into their radios. I would say that there will by the end of next month, there should be 50 or so hams that have radios in the Colorado area. The emails are flying around this area on how to acquire radios and get on the systems etc.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Glen, Go to www.yahoo.com/groups and search for the MT-USA group and register their. Mike WB6WUI will most likely email a welcome letter back to you and you can get the information your looking for. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I carry a Trbo daily for work with analog amateur in it. I have installed both standalone and IP connect repeaters at our sites. I can't find info on Trbo-6. Are many amateur Trbo repeaters connected? I would love to put on in place and connect it. Glenn W8AK In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:42:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, n6...@cox.net writes: Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra
Most coordinators are already trying to convert a part of their band plan to accommodate digital technology. The FDMA 6.25khz equipment is a good system, however I cant see a ham group buy into the NXDN system to get 2 channels. I think that it will be some time before the ham bands go all the way to the 6.25khz digital unless they install a Mototrbo system. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lenaw12 Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, j.cherry377 j.cherry...@... wrote: ...My question is when will the 440 and 2m bands start talking about making a unified 6.25 kc divisible bandplan and apply it nationwide? They will have to do it so might as well get started talking about it. I know that there are a lot of people with 25/30 kc radios that are not going to care for hearing about this... I can see a band split and reallocation of wider modes into one portion of each ham band with the narrow/digital modes holding court in another. LW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Dan, Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha ha. I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add their information to their prospective users. I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra
Dan, there will be a time when we cant get a wide band commercial repeater that we use for our beloved 25khz analog repeaters anymore. Here in under 2 years when the FCC requires all manufactures to stop building wideband equipment and everyone in the commercial band to be at a 12.5khz emission. There are rumors floating around that firmware releases for programmable equipment may include the removal of the 25khz option in that equipment. Not good for hams. How would you like to be on a hill top and flash your GE Master 3 or Motorola Quantar or a MTR2000 to the latest firmware and find out it will only do 12.5khz. Watch out as the time is coming. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra Why would anyone have to start talking about a 6.25 Bandplan? Since naroowbanding does not apply to amateur radio, what makes you think any of the equipment manufacturers will make narrowband specific equipment? Yes, FMN is an option on some amateur rigs, but not all. And with the narrow band compliance for part 95 and other commercial users, there should be no shortage of wide band repeater equipment for years to come. I'm just asking to see where your perspective is coming from. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:59 PM, lenaw12 wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, j.cherry377 j.cherry...@... wrote: ...My question is when will the 440 and 2m bands start talking about making a unified 6.25 kc divisible bandplan and apply it nationwide? They will have to do it so might as well get started talking about it. I know that there are a lot of people with 25/30 kc radios that are not going to care for hearing about this... I can see a band split and reallocation of wider modes into one portion of each ham band with the narrow/digital modes holding court in another. LW Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TRBO-6 Demonstration Vehicle / Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
AJ do you have a link you can forward. We are working on a 3.4-3.5ghz broadband PTP system and going to build our own broadband ham network here in Colorado. I will have John keep the web site up to date on the progress. www.rmham.org http://www.rmham.org/ Thanks, Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TRBO-6 Demonstration Vehicle / Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems You said Ethernet for links... Take a peak at the Ubiquity Networks AirGrid line - 24 and 27 dBi parabolic dish systems that integrate the 2.4 5.8 GHz radios in to the feedhorn assembly... We have a set of demo units (smaller 16 dBi 2.4 GHz units) setup right now, hacked to use the ham portion of the band (2332 MHz if I recall correctly), running point to point between mountain tops of roughly 25 miles with usable data rate of around 15 megabit half duplex. Each Airgrid unit is suppose to hit the street around $50 for the 16 dBi 2.4 GHz unit; the 27 dBi 5.4/5.8 GHz unit will street for less than $70. For point to point links that are native IP, I don't see if getting any cheaper than this... On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:23 PM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: Hi Mike, Here in Colorado there has been an overwhelming interest especially in the volunteers for served agencies like ARES and RACES. I do have to say that it is very exciting and am very glad I swapped the analog repeater. I think I can echo all repeater owners around the country that there is about 1 analog repeater to every 5 hams. All you have to do is ask your local coordinator and he or she will echo the same response. Not only by going to digital weather it is P25 or TDMA or Dstar we all are advancing the hobby and being more efficient in the spectrum we occupy. Your TRBO-6 group is a prime example that you chose to link via Ethernet and not run Full-Duplex links everywhere. If I were to build the Oregon Repeater Group over again. Now called the Oregon Connection. Linking via Ethernet would have been much less costly and audio is always the same, no matter how many links that are connected to a point. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wb6wui Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TRBO-6 Demonstration Vehicle / Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems I have 71 Aliases in my codeplug for the 9 UHF boxes on the TRBO-6 IPSC Network as of this morning. Seems like I add something everyday, and it's a bit of a pain keeping for different plugs synced. It is a blast and I must echo Mike in that the enthusiasm is very high in our growing group. One of our members, Moni (KC2KRW) went to the Orlando Hamcation with his TRBO repeater mounted in his SUV on a 3/4G broadband card. We did demo's all day yesterday for many of the groups Moni brought together inside and out in the tailgate area. Mom should have sponsored this efforts. Check out the rig. http://www.kc2krw. http://www.kc2krw.com/kc2krw/XPR8300.html com/kc2krw/XPR8300.html Moni drove 180 miles to the Hamfest and never was out of his coverage area. ;-) -- Mike, WB6WUI, Mazama, WA --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, k7...@... wrote: There are currently about 50 radios that have the ham systems programmed into their radios. I would say that there will by the end of next month, there should be 50 or so hams that have radios in the Colorado area. The emails are flying around this area on how to acquire radios and get on the systems etc.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group
We use many ham and commercial repeaters using the same antennas, but require the proper filtering. A mobile duplexer is not sutable for what you are trying to do here. You can get a transmit combiner Hybrid or cavity for the transmitters and use a receiver multicoupler that has a dual window one for the ham receive and one for the commercial receive or use a cavity combiner for the receiver. That was is my preferred method, more isolation but costs much more. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group I have a very broad band uhf antenna on a tower . I would like to run a 440 MHz machine and a 462 MHz machine off of the same antenna . Can I use a notch type mobile duplexer to combine the 2 machines to 1 ant for both TX and RX to notch the respective TX freqs after the duplexers that are on the 2 machines . Merrill KG4IDD
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra
I see your point, however most hams get their equipment surplus and that will be happening for some time to come. I was just pointing out a possible snafu that could arise and thought many may need to know. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra Mike, I see your point for the commercial side, but how many amateur groups are going upgrade firmware on a repeater after it is up and working? How many are going to upgrade firmware on a machine that doesn't need it before they put it into operation? But there is plenty of non software equipment still out there that will eventually be surplus, and as for the firmware/software upgrade to remove 25KHz, I don't see it happening (at least not from Motorola) when the manufacturers can make more money selling new equipment as opposed to a firmware upgrade. Just my .02. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: Dan, there will be a time when we cant get a wide band commercial repeater that we use for our beloved 25khz analog repeaters anymore. Here in under 2 years when the FCC requires all manufactures to stop building wideband equipment and everyone in the commercial band to be at a 12.5khz emission. There are rumors floating around that firmware releases for programmable equipment may include the removal of the 25khz option in that equipment. Not good for hams. How would you like to be on a hill top and flash your GE Master 3 or Motorola Quantar or a MTR2000 to the latest firmware and find out it will only do 12.5khz. Watch out as the time is coming. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra Why would anyone have to start talking about a 6.25 Bandplan? Since naroowbanding does not apply to amateur radio, what makes you think any of the equipment manufacturers will make narrowband specific equipment? Yes, FMN is an option on some amateur rigs, but not all. And with the narrow band compliance for part 95 and other commercial users, there should be no shortage of wide band repeater equipment for years to come. I'm just asking to see where your perspective is coming from. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:59 PM, lenaw12 wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, j.cherry377 j.cherry...@... wrote: ...My question is when will the 440 and 2m bands start talking about making a unified 6.25 kc divisible bandplan and apply it nationwide? They will have to do it so might as well get started talking about it. I know that there are a lot of people with 25/30 kc radios that are not going to care for hearing about this... I can see a band split and reallocation of wider modes into one portion of each ham band with the narrow/digital modes holding court in another. LW Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want to look at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org http://www.rmham.org/ Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: Hi Dan, Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha ha. I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add their information to their prospective users. I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra
I dont think TRBO will be going anywhere anytime soon, as its archature is like a phase 2 type system. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of j.cherry377 Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trbo to be DOA 2012 Say Hello to Tetra The plan as I have it is to merge P25 and Trbo into a Tetra Product, for release in 2012, at which time Turbo will be discontinued and abandoned as its not true 6.25kc and wont comply with the new 2.5kc standard that all will have to start adhering to. Trbo takes up 12.5kc though it provides 2 voice paths, its not 6.25kc wide. My question is when will the 440 and 2m bands start talking about making a unified 6.25 kc divisible bandplan and apply it nationwide? They will have to do it so might as well get started talking about it. I know that there are a lot of people with 25/30 kc radios that are not going to care for hearing about this. A good first step is to design the layout in 12.5 kc steps for each band and start planning on at least going to 2.5kc deviation around that time..
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale
Hi Larry, I will take $1650 for the repeater and controller. If you want it please call me if you want it. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Watkinson Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR THE SYSTEM? From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale Well I did it and changed the analog repeater setup to digital TDMA Mototrbo today. I am going to sell the complete box ready to go minus the duplexer. There is a version 2 Kenwood TKR-850K repeater, Link Comm. RLC4 Controller that includes 2 Delay boards, and DVR board. If interested please email me off the list. Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale
Hi Larry, Please keep in mind that the complete repeater and controller is 5 month old. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Watkinson Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR THE SYSTEM? From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale Well I did it and changed the analog repeater setup to digital TDMA Mototrbo today. I am going to sell the complete box ready to go minus the duplexer. There is a version 2 Kenwood TKR-850K repeater, Link Comm. RLC4 Controller that includes 2 Delay boards, and DVR board. If interested please email me off the list. Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale
Hi Larry, I don't have to sell as a package so that is no problem at all. What are you thinking on the repeater. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Watkinson Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale What I really want is the Kenwood. I have a controller. If you end up with a buyer for the controller, I would be interested in the Kenwood From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale Hi Larry, Please keep in mind that the complete repeater and controller is 5 month old. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Watkinson Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR THE SYSTEM? From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood repeater TKR-850 and Link Comm RLC4 for sale Well I did it and changed the analog repeater setup to digital TDMA Mototrbo today. I am going to sell the complete box ready to go minus the duplexer. There is a version 2 Kenwood TKR-850K repeater, Link Comm. RLC4 Controller that includes 2 Delay boards, and DVR board. If interested please email me off the list. Mike K7PFJ
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 Trade for Motorola XPR8300 MOTOTRBO
Any of you guys out there wanting to trade a Kenwood TKR-850 with controller for a Motorola XPR8300 UHF MotoTRBO repeater. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wtb uhf link radio
Raul, The Motorola SM-50 radio is about as simple and straight forward to deal with. It will give you all the necessary connections on the back as well. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wtb uhf link radio I need a uhf link radio simple and cheap Thnx in advance Raul
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connect Controller to EM Interface
Hi Duane, Very good link to have in the old file for future reference. Thanks, Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 Office 303-954-9693 Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duane Hall Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connect Controller to EM Interface Here is a Cisco document with EM signaling info you may find helpful... Understanding and Troubleshooting Analog EM Interface Types and Wiring Arrangements http://www.cisco. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/gatecont/ps2250/products_tech_note09 186a008009452e.shtml com/en/US/products/hw/gatecont/ps2250/products_tech_note09186a008009452e.sht ml or download a pdf at http://www.cisco. http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/paws/14003/e_m_overview.pdf com/application/pdf/paws/14003/e_m_overview.pdf Duane AB8QU burkleoj wrote: Hello All, Has anyone connected a repeater controller such as a Arcom RC-210 or a Link-Comm RLC Series to an EM interface to link two or more sites together? I am looking for ideas and any pit falls that you may have had in the setup and configuration. Thanks, Joe - WA7JAW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scom 7330 Ideas
Hi Rod, The controller is as good as you can get. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rrath Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:33 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scom 7330 Ideas Hi Steve. I too will be upgrading to the 7330 real soon. I will be ordering it today. Good question. Rod kc7vqr
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Quantar 2M UHF Repeater Ordering Questions
Hi Larry and Joe, If your not wanting to do P25 the Master 3 is a good repeater but my vote would be a Quantar or MTR2000. cant get much better than that. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Quantar 2M UHF Repeater Ordering Questions Larry, You know how much I love Motorola and especially the Micor radio series. But... I think if I were in your position and it was OK with the site owners, I would look real seriously at the Mastr III units. Very nice equipment and still factory supported. These are showing up for under $1000 on the open market. Just my .02 cents worth. Joe - WA7JAW PS. I would not be surprised if the MTR2000 units with the optional front end filter would not work very well for you also for all 4 boxes. --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, larryjspamme...@... lar...@... wrote: Our site owner wants us to upgrade our old Motorola MICOR 2-Meter and UHF ham Repeaters to something much newer. We're looking at replacing them with something like new Motorola Quantar repeaters, which will also save us some floor space - we should be able to mount all of them in one open rack. The people paying for these want to make sure they have any future needed features like P25 capability, etc. We need a 2-Meter Repeater, two - UHF (440-450 MHz range) Repeaters, and one - link (420-430 MHz range) station. The 2-Meter and 440 Repeaters don't need duplexers, since they'll be on some transmit combiner/receive multicoupler systems. The 420 MHz unit needs to be full duplex, and it will be using a duplexer feeding its own dedicated link yagi antenna. Maybe a Quantar isn't necessary for the 420 MHz link repeater - an MTR-2000 (or MTR-3000) would be sufficient. Has anyone here on the list put together a similar order, and might have all of the necessary model numbers, option numbers, etc? I've looked at some of the on-line brochures, but it would be nice to verify with someone who has been through this excercise already. Thanks, LJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] FS: Link Comm RLC-DSP404 controllers
Eric, I did the same thing with the three I had. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kk2ed Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS: Link Comm RLC-DSP404 controllers For sale: Two brand new never used Link Comm RLC-DSP404 repeater controllers. Tested and latest firmware installed. Never mounted or taken out of my shop, so no scratches on them. The units have been sitting in their boxes on a shelf. All the supplied accessories (cables, connectors, etc.) are still sealed. I bought these new awhile back with the intention of linking some of my sites via IP, but the project has been scrapped. $1265 each shipped ground conus. Both for $2430 shipped. Eric K2WD
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rebuild Project Input
Hi John, Happy New Year. If money is an issue, go to your local radio shop and see if they have an old DB or Sinclair antenna laying around. Most likely they will. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rebuild Project Input The GP9 I used on the repeaters was on a hill that was about 900 feet elevation. The problems didn't seem to make any difference regardless if the user was 2 miles out or 10 miles out. I can not recommend a GP9 for UHF. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:20:21 AM PST From: n...@no6b.com mailto:no6b%40no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rebuild Project Input At 1/8/2010 23:39, you wrote: I used a Comet GP9 for about 2 years on a 444 Mhz repeater, then connected a 2 meter repeater to it. The 2 meter system performed FAR better than the UHF system. Both repeaters were nearly identical in performance otherwise, the GP9 simply performed much better on 2 meters. The GP9 does have significant nulls below the horizon on 440, so if your repeater was on a mountain you were trying to access it close-in, it would appear to perform much worse than on 2 meters, where the gain is lower. The only GP9 I have on a mountain is used for TX only, so I don't care about the close-in coverage. At 15 miles away the main lobe hits the ground. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Hi Ken and Norm, On my UHF LTR system I have several home channels in the 5 ch system that are almost continuous transmit during the date time. I have the TKR850's running at 35wt and they have survived for two years so far with no ill affects. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ trollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp.net net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.103/2558 - Release Date: 12/11/09 10:06:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater
Scott, I would turn it down to 40wt for the VHF model if that is what your looking to do on an Echolink node. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of offtracks1 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater So running my 750 K2 at 50 watts for an hour or 2 solid when its hooked up to a busy Echonlink system should be ok and I should worry less? I have been testing some and it seems to run fine. KB7DZR Scott --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ trollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp.net net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.103/2558 - Release Date: 12/11/09 10:06:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater
Hi Scott, You cant go by that reading. Borrow a good watt meter would be the safe thing to do. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of offtracks1 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater Mike Took a look at it today in the software for my TKR-750 K2. I set the high power setting in the settings at 200. My watt meter is a poor one to use so I really do not trust it when it say 40 watts, Its not a good Bird Meter. Is that number good? Scott KB7DZR. --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, k7...@... wrote: Scott, I would turn it down to 40wt for the VHF model if that is what your looking to do on an Echolink node. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of offtracks1 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater So running my 750 K2 at 50 watts for an hour or 2 solid when its hooked up to a busy Echonlink system should be ok and I should worry less? I have been testing some and it seems to run fine. KB7DZR Scott --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah6le@ wrote: At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ trollers.com/ trollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp.net net net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.103/2558 - Release Date: 12/11/09 10:06:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.103/2558 - Release Date: 12/11/09 10:06:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trouble sending to this group
Norm, That is the funniest thing I have read all day. Got a smile out of me. :-):-):-):-):-) Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:18 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trouble sending to this group Are those 2 my only choices? :-) - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue Dec 08 17:25:42 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Trouble sending to this group Depends really, Are you a Republican or a Democrat? :-) w6mjm w6...@... wrote: I have been having trouble sending to this group. Anyone else with this problem? Marvin - W6MJM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2552 - Release Date: 12/08/09 07:34:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement
Hi Skip, Happy Thanksgiving first off. Go to the Angle Linear web site and read Chip's documentation he has provided. I don't know too many people that has a better product than him and his stuff if installed correctly works like no other. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement Hello John, W3ML w...@... wrote: Hi, not since high school... :-) I have now read two different things about where to put the pre-amp. Only two? One says before the Bandpass and one after. What I have now is the 6 can duplexer is hooked to the bandpass and then on the other side the pre-amp is connected and then a cable goes from preamp to radio. The other article I read this past week says the preamp should go between the cans and the bandpass. Which is right? Or does it matter? Depends and it does matter... based on how busy your radio site is, where any other rf activity is relative to your frequency, the type of preamplifier, how it's constructed, your receiver front end, your duplexer type with number of cavities, your Tx Power level and a few other tidbits... got a headache yet? I'd venture to say... if your receiver front end is of decent Q (quality) and reasonably narrow band-width along with a decent duplexer... then the preamp might best go after the duplexer, between it and the band-pass cavity. If your receiver front end is average or fairly broad (a few MHz band-width) there might be a case to include the extra band pass cavity after the preamp before the receiver input. Some of this option depends on the duplexer and TX Power Level. The point of what I write above is about trying to obtain the best overload prevention performance and or damage control when the preamplifier is overloaded and generating unwanted signals. Many but not all the variables are are in the list. You could of course try both positions and measure the system performance. s. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.83/2526 - Release Date: 11/25/09 19:43:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] $2000 Motrac era repeater!
Hi John, Now that is funny, I got quite a chuckle out of that post. I hope you and your family have a happy Thanksgiving. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] $2000 Motrac era repeater! http://portland. http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ele/1477806751.html craigslist.org/clc/ele/1477806751.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.80/2523 - Release Date: 11/24/09 07:46:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Another unknown duplexer
Well I haven't seen these cavities in some time. They look like an early version of the Fred Voight series of filters. They seemed to work with a bit more loss than your commercial Sinclair 6 can Bp/Br cans. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Holm Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:50 AM To: Repeater Builder Reflector Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Another unknown duplexer This set of cans has been in our club since before I was involved. None of us seem to recall where this thing came from or who made it. Does anyone recognize this one? http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/700689718/pic/l ist yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/700689718/pic/list The cavities are about 4 in diameter and are 23 long. The top plate is heavy brass and is made to fit 6 spaces in a 19 rack. At first glance it almost looks like it is homebrewed. The cavities are not silver plated. But some things make it appear to be of commercial origin. The aluminum cavities have very neatly welded top mounting flanges and bottom endcaps, and are anodized/alodized. Also, the tuning rod lock nut assemblies appear to be custom fasteners, and the center elements have nice fingerstock at the bottom. We used this on a temporary, low-power machine a few years ago. Now, we'd like to really go through it and tune it up for a another machine. While I had it here, I thought I'd try to figure out where it came from. Thanks. 73 Paul - KC0HST No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.80/2523 - Release Date: 11/24/09 07:46:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Project Progress
Sounds like your on your way. My past boss had once said. BOY'S YOU CAN'T PLAY RADIO UNLESS YOU HAVE FREQ'S. If your looking for a GMRS frequency contact me off the list. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc8gpd Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Repeater Project Progress Got a Motorola Desktrac, 150 ft 1/2 inch hardline, PD Station Master, Surge Arrestor, LMR 400 Jumpers, 6 Cavity Notch Duplexer. I have will over on batlabs tuning up the duplexer and recapping/aligning my spectra's, and re aligning my sabers. i am thinking that i will turn the power down on the desktrac to 10-15 watts. still don't have a GMRS license or a site for the repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2518 - Release Date: 11/22/09 07:38:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Get a USED Motorola MTR2000 repeater and don't look back. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:10 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo. mailto:crowe...@yahoo.com com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 07:50:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed
Ken, I have to agree with you on this one. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) should be shot. ---Darn it.. What I meant is that I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) WITHOUT A CIRCULATOR should be shot. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ trollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp.net net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Pager Interference.........
Hi Walter, If the paging operator is bitching about .6db of loss from an isolator. ft it were my site I would have made him add a band pass can as well or he could go find another site to trash. Most likely we would have made the operator run through the site combiner and then he would really have bitched since it would have been around 2db of loss. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka1jfy Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:47 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Pager Interference. We had a wandering spur passing through the Game and Fish statewide frequency at 151 MHz. The maintenance engineer had to put the spec-a on the IF section of the affected receiver [MastrII] to actually see it. One he saw it, he demodded the signal and it was a local paging outfit on 454 MHz. The paging company engineer turned off the transmitters one by one [simulcast system], until the interference went away. When they went out there, the PA tube had been recently replaced, and the technician hadn't properly neutralized it [Quintron?]. Seems to be kind of a lost art. Another time, we had a 462 MHz pager that was EXACTLY half-way between our input and output on 460/465. Whenever we were on the air simultaneously, we got hit hard. It ended up being in his transmitter, and a dual-isolator on his end cured the problem. but he really disliked the loss of ERP. Thank heavens that company folded. WalterH --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Al Wolfe k...@... wrote: Have seen this several times where a transmitter went spurious. The worst have been Johnsons. It's often temperature related, at least the frequency of the spur. A spectrum analyzer and a directional antenna are your best tools. A portable scanner is also very handy. In one case we tracked down it was a small two watt telemetry transmitter, not a pager, trashing a UHF repeater ten miles away when the temperature was between 40 and 50 degrees. We found their spur was there any time their transmitter was up but only on the repeater input at certain temperatures. This particular transmitter was owned by a pipeline outfit. When we finally were able to contact them their tech was quite knowledgeable and replaced the offending transmitter. And they thanked us for bringing the problem to their attention. With other entities sometimes we have not been so fortunate. Often when an offending transmitter was identified we got denials of responsibility from the owners but persistence and pressure from authorities have generally paid off. Good luck, Al, K9SI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.38/2467 - Release Date: 10/29/09 07:38:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs. RC
Hardly anybody used 50 MHz ham in RC anymore since 2.4 GHz digital came about. Tell him to look at a new system. The cost of changing your system to another channel would exceed the cost of a new RC transmitter by three fold. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:58 PM To: Repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC Does anyone have any experience with repeater operation vs RC operation (Remote Control)? I have an RC operator who is 'raising a stink' about a repeater that is 30 kHz away from one of his RC channels. BTW, he also wants to 'compromise' by offering to relocate the repeater off the 52-54 MHz segment so they will not impact his RC operations. Some compromise, huh? I think he has the impression that RC channels are 100 kHz wide (they are standard AM) because the 6M RC channels are spaced at 100 kHz (53.100, 53.200, 53.3500, 53.400, Etc). I've told him they cannot be more than 10 kHz wide, if that, and that the FC repeater would be only 16 kHz wide, and at 30 kHz away the two can coexist without interference. Oh, the repeater in question is at least 20 miles away from his flying site. Any input out there? Exactly how wide is his AM signal? Thanks, Joe M. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2427 - Release Date: 10/10/09 06:39:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC
A nice system you can pick up for under $300 and even under $200 if you want basic. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC Can you define very cheap? Joe M. Jim Brown wrote: If the complainant is trying to control a model, there are lots of options now that do not include a six meter frequency, with the new 2.5 gig systems very cheap. No more frequency interference between models, since they can all operate at the same time with the spread spectrum control system. 73 - Jim W5ZIT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2427 - Release Date: 10/10/09 06:39:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC
Tell him Tower Hobbies has the best deals on the web. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeaters vs RC Can you define very cheap? Joe M. Jim Brown wrote: If the complainant is trying to control a model, there are lots of options now that do not include a six meter frequency, with the new 2.5 gig systems very cheap. No more frequency interference between models, since they can all operate at the same time with the spread spectrum control system. 73 - Jim W5ZIT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2427 - Release Date: 10/10/09 06:39:00
[Repeater-Builder] Mototrbo HAM GPS
Has anybody been successful in running Mototrbo GPS and stream it into the APRS network. We are building a HAM network and this would be really neat if its possible. Mike Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 final
Rick, If your repeater is a version 1.0 it is covered under the recall service bulletin they came out several years back. All you would have to do is take it to a Kenwood service shop and they could fix it or send it to Kenwood and they will fix it as well. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rickcdll Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:23 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 final In need of a final board for the TKR-850. Have called everyone. Nobody has it in stock. Mine is a X45-36310. Am told the replacement is X45-374-10 but doesnt come with the FET's and a few other parts. Anyone have or know where I can get this board and parts quickey? Have a Ham repeater going thru coordination right now and dont want to loose the freq pair. Thanks Rick WU8S rickcaudill@ mailto:rickcaudill%40fuse.net fuse.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2411 - Release Date: 10/04/09 18:42:00
[Repeater-Builder] Mototrbo and APRS
I lost the email I had from the guys in Iowa and California that is running the Mototrbo over APRS. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals?
Hi Joe, I was not sure who all went over and got all his stuff. I know Chris went over and got a bunch of hardware but If I know Chris he would never take Motorola manuals unless there was GE manuals. Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of burkleoj Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals? Mike and Mike, I have a Motorola twin coffin 30D set of manuals out of Neil's collection. I will have a look tomorrow and see what I can find out for you as to what is listed for PL Tones. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , k7...@... wrote: Hi Mike, I would say Neil Mckie WA6KLA should help you out with any OLD Motorola manual that they have ever printed since 1948. But he has been locked up for several years and all of his stuff he gave away. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals? If so, I need a favor. The first implementation of PL used about 20 tones. The 32-tone standard list didn't come until later. Does anybody have a copy of that early tone list? It would have been somewhere in the 1950-1955 time frame. Thanks in advance. Mike WA6ILQ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanting To Build A Repeater
What is the make and what are the radios From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of frankf350 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanting To Build A Repeater Hi Could Any One Point me In The Direction On How To Make A Repeater From 2 TM8110 Mobiles Please No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] hand held 800mhz...which one
The MTS2000 is a great radio but not made anymore. The Kenwood TK480 is also a great radio. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gueorgui g Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] hand held 800mhz...which one i have msf5000 repeater in simplex, full duplex with telephone interconnect...working nice. which handheld device will be utilized the best and programmed to use DTMF as telephone with TPL to this repeater 800mhz. thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: hand held 800mhz...which one
Both have DTMF Pads Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gueorgui g Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: hand held 800mhz...which one the handheld should have DTMF keypad --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , k7...@... wrote: The MTS2000 is a great radio but not made anymore. The Kenwood TK480 is also a great radio. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of gueorgui g Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] hand held 800mhz...which one i have msf5000 repeater in simplex, full duplex with telephone interconnect...working nice. which handheld device will be utilized the best and programmed to use DTMF as telephone with TPL to this repeater 800mhz. thanks! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals?
Hi Mike, I would say Neil Mckie WA6KLA should help you out with any OLD Motorola manual that they have ever printed since 1948. But he has been locked up for several years and all of his stuff he gave away. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have some REALLY old Moto manuals? If so, I need a favor. The first implementation of PL used about 20 tones. The 32-tone standard list didn't come until later. Does anybody have a copy of that early tone list? It would have been somewhere in the 1950-1955 time frame. Thanks in advance. Mike WA6ILQ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.104/2379 - Release Date: 09/17/09 15:55:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SM50 440 mod
Yes they will play nice down there. I have had t many to count as links Full-Duplex and they will play nice to the 430Mhz without any modification other than the hacked software. Mike Mullarkey - Original Message - From: tonyn2mft tonyn2...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:47:15 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [Repeater-Builder] SM50 440 mod Trying to get a UHF SM50 M44DCG20A2AAA down to 440. Already tried the shift method without success. Searched Google high and low with little success. There was a few threads on the boards about moving this down. Dropped and few emails with out a return. I've read on Batlabs on moving the SM50 to cover the entire band limits on VHF. Nothing on UHF. Can this radio go down to 440? Any help would move this project off my bench and desk. Thanks. Tony
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TK 730 or CM 300
Depends if you want to use an external pl decoder. The cm300 has pl and cor on the back pins. Mike Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: mitchell.d...@ymail.com mitchell.d...@ymail.com Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:34:18 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TK 730 or CM 300 Can anyone help with possibly using either radio as a repeater. I have at least two of each radio but are unsure of connecting them together to make it work. Thanks in advance.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Antenna
Ron, Telewave makes the ANT 150 and 450 series antennas. We have mounted the UHF to the back side 180deg from the VHF using schedule 80 2 1/2 od aluminum pipe. You will want to top and bottom support the mast due to the length of it but works really well. If you want to use a coupler get a TX/RX splitter and will last years but you will need two of them if you plan to use one coax. Mike K7pfj - Original Message - From: rwjohn49 skyw...@bellsouth.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:49:27 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Antenna Hey Folks, I have two repeaters here on two and 440 Problem is I have to run one antenna for both...so, dual band antennas work fine...problem is even the heavy duty version (x510) of Diamond and the best Comet have failed... Am running 70 watts on two and 60 watts on 440 In each case the capacitors fail.am tired of climbing up the tower Any ideas on a better dual band that will not fail.. Pulling my hair out. ron
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola XPR6550 403-470 Portables
If anybody is interested i have 50 overstock new units in the box for sale. These units are new with full warranty. Please contact me OFF the list if your interested. Mike K7PFJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Order up two of the RLC DSP-404 controllers and you will have it linked via IP. I am using one at the repeater site and another for a voted site and works well. Mike K7PFJ - Original Message - From: Ethercrash n4bwp...@charter.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 8:42:42 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP My repeater group is considering building split-site 6m machine. As an inter-site link, I was thinking of using some sort of VOIP arrangement via the internet. I'm curious if anyone has tried something like this: My idea is to use a point-to-point, private link (i.e. not IRLP or Echo) to pump audio and maybe even some signaling between sites. The receive site would consist of the receive radio, controller (most likely an Arcom), and a PC to do the encoding/streaming. The transmit site would consist of a PC to decode the audio stream, a PL decoder for TX logic, and the TX radio. The basic premise would be to take audio from the RX (PL filtered), fed thru the controller, mixed with link PL, and fed to the PC's audio input. The PC then streams the audio over the internet to the RX site PC, where it is decoded and fed to the TX radio, which will be keyed by a PL decoder (provided the IP encode/decode process hasn't mangled the PL). Whew... Now, question is: will it work? Or more properly, has anyone made this work? I'm going to try it on a small scale just to prove concept, but I'm curious if anyone has tried this already. My intention is to use something along the lines of Winamp with Shoutcast or Windows Media Encoder to stream the audio. I'd rather find a Linux-based CLI encoder if such an animal exists. I had thought about using IRLP nodes as endpoints, but IRLP policy would preclude that. Thoughts? Encouragement? FTW is he THINKING?!?! ;) I'd be interested in the group's thoughts, and I'll report the results of my experiments. Thanks 73, Brian, N4BWP
[Repeater-Builder] Q2220E
Does anybody have a Sinclair Q2220E they would like to sell for a new club reepater. Please contact me off the list. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ 303-718-8052
[Repeater-Builder] FT-8500 Adjustments
Hi to all, I have a local ham here in Colorado and he has a Yaseu FT-8500 and his audio is off the charts. Does anybody know how to adjust these radio. Is via the front panel or on the board in the radio. I also want to bring the Transmitter on freq both on the VHF and UHF while im into it. Mike K7PFJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
Alex, I have had over 30 of these repeaters in use and never ran into a problem using the BNC. I would leave well enough alone if it were me. If you do this you wont take care of the issue you may be thinking your going to fix by doing so. I have a 5 ch system UHF LTR on Cheyenne Mt just above Norad in Colorado Springs. Let's just say the noise floor is very high. Heck you have to wear an RF suite at spots on the hill so that will tell you what is going on. My point is, i am using the BNC on the system and have no problems with them at all. What is the reasoning for swapping the BNC for the N Female connector and what do you think your going to gain by doing so. There is a reason why Kenwood engineers made the repeater with the BNC and not a N Connector. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ -- Original message -- From: Alexander N Tubonjic kg4...@yahoo.com I am wanting to swap out the BNC receiver connector to an N connector on my Kenwood TKR-750 2 meter repeater. After contacting Kenwood and getting quoted some crack prices I figured I'd see if anyone has anything laying around or has any ideas on here. I've got the BNC Connector and the existing cable that goes from the BNC to the RX Board removed from the repeater and sitting on my desk. I also have an N Female connector that I want to put in line. The existing coax interconnect is not long enough to cut the BNC off of and solder the N on and have it be sufficient length to reach both the board and the back of the repeater. The cable is the super small sized coax terminated one one end with the little micro RCA looking plug and the Connector is on the other end. If I remember correctly it looks exactly like the coax interconnects found in the Mitrek, Syntor and all them. I'm thinking a scrap Mitrek or Syntor would work fine (any thoughts on just ganking a cable from another radio?) Anyone know where I can purchase a new cable terminated with that micro plug from (other then Kenwood, because I'm not about to pay $34 for two feet of cable) Also, I've been thinking about taking some small copper pipe and routing it inside the repeater from the BNC opening in the rear to the RX board to run the coax inside of for a little better shielding against the TX. Any thoughts/comments/suggestions on that idea? Thanks guys! Alex N4TIA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL encode on tkr850
Are you you using a external controller or the internal controller. -- Original message -- From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com Hey guys, Any way on the tkr850 to make the PL encode only on COS? I know it has a PL function built in, but wanted to know if this is doable in the programming. Thanks, Jed
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000
Bill, I think you mean that the MTR is to get the TDMA MotoTrbo board upgrade two slot TDMA option. Mike K7PFJ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The MTR 2000 is on Motorola's roadmap to get a P-25 upgrade option in the next couple of years. Bill - WA0CBW In a message dated 11/24/2008 10:26:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric Lemmon wrote: John, I certainly can't dispute the fact that an MTR2000 repeater is far more expensive than a TKR-850 repeater, nor can I dispute the fact that a BMW is far more expensive than a Yugo. The MTR2000 is a high-tier, heavy-duty, very reliable unit that can operate continuously. The TKR-850 is a low-tier station that is equivalent to the Motorola RKR-1225, and similar offerings from Icom, Vertex, and Ritron. If you want quality and durability, buy a high-tier station. If you feel that your needs do not warrant such an expenditure, stick with the more economical units. If you want a high-tier Kenwood station, look at the TKR-840 rather than the TKR-850. The TKR-840 is intended to drive a separate power amplifier, since it puts out 1 to 5 watts. The local public-safety agencies use a TKR-840 with a 100 watt TPL amplifier running at 75 watts. That combination is in the $3,500 class. The TKR-840 is the BMW of the Kenwood LMR product line. The TKR-850 is, well, not a BMW. Actually, the MTR-2000 is mid-to-low range. The high-tier for Motorola is still the Quantar. Yahoo! Groups Links Check out smokin' hot deals on laptops, desktops and more from Dell. Shop Deals
[Repeater-Builder] Re-Tune a 412-420 stationmaster
Has anybody been sucessful in retuning a Celwave 1150-2 stationmaster antenna to work in the ham bands. Mike K7PFJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: LINK COMM RLC-4 Repeater Controller
Dennis, I would be interested in the ADM modules but that all i need. I am sure someone would buy without the ADM modules since they plug in. Mike K7PFJ -- Original message -- From: w4dg.geo [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Sale: one (1) Link COmmunications Model# RLC-4, Serial# 1110, FOUR (4) -port repeater controller. Includes OPTIONAL COST: two (2) each - ADM (audio delay modules), Telephone Autopatch Interface with Cabinet, 19 LED Display Rack Mountable Cabinet, Dongle DVR, Loose leaf Complete manual and seal packages of DB-9 DB25 connectors. LASTEST SOFTWARE VERSION 1.79. Cost new: $900.00 - Selling for $750.00 + shipping from 34667. Dennis - W4DG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Painting
David, Go to Ace Hardware and get your standard grey Semi Gloss paint and paint them. Make sure to cover the screw holes to seal from over spray. Mike -- Original message -- From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I have been trying to put together and rebuild a bunch of equipment for the hilltops. Just got another set of Moto T1504 UHF cans. I have been attempting to do a neat and tidey job (for a change) and make sure everything is clean, and wired neat and such. So now, the inside of the duplexers are redone, What kind of paint shoud-could-would I use to paint the outside to not effect the performance? N1ROA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: Celwave 6 Cavity UHF Repeater-Base Station Duplexer
Jerry, Your duplexer looks in great condition, however the price you want for it is above dealer cost and the unit is used. You can see them on EBay all day long for arround $200-$300 all day long. Mike -- Original message -- From: Jerry Dubzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Sale: Celwave 6 Cavity UHF (435 to 470 MHz.) Repeater-Bas Station Duplexer! This unit is in excellent condition, and is currently tuned for: TX=444.0625 MHz. RX: 449.0625 MHz. with 0.9 dB insertion loss. The unit was originally pulled from a Motorola Quantar repeater system and retuned for use in my D-Star repeater system which I have recently sold. The duplexer's specifications are as follows: Frequency Coverage = 435 to 470 MHz. Frequency Spacing, MHz. = 3 TX to RX Isolation, dB = 100 Max Insertion Loss, dB = 1.0 TX Bandwidth, MHz. = 0.025 RX Bandwidth, MHz. = 0.025 Maximum Power Input = 250 watts Connectors = N-Female VSWR, Max. (50 ohms) = 1.3:1 Standard 19 Rack Mount Design Photos: http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/gldubzakjr/Duplexer0.jpg http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/gldubzakjr/Duplexer1.jpg http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/gldubzakjr/Duplexer2.jpg I am asking $800, o.b.o. plus $30 shipping (PayPal +3%) Interested parties, please e-mail me directly at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any questions. Thanks, Jerry - K8GLD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] I am the Walrus (a Kenwood Walrus)
Yep we all are Kenwood dealers, hell if your breathing air and have a service monitor most likley you sell Kenwood. Not a bad thing except the smaller dealers seem to muddy up things on some larger deals. Not to mention they get the same pricing if they sell 5 portables a year and you sell 2,000,000 a year. Mike -- Original message -- From: Cort Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 18, 2008, at 12:15 PM, skipp025 wrote: Hi Norm, Yep, I are a Kenwood Dealer... and full on Service Station for Kenwood and most every other radio brand. I also Service less Popular Neutec, Midland, Ritron, Aerotron... yadda, yadda. (I am the Walrus ... goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob) In Northern California... (where the men are men and the sheep are nervous) cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com NORM KNAPP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're a kenwood dealer? So is my company, Hurricane Electronics Inc. In Mobile Al. Who are you and where? - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jun 18 11:03:54 2008 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the scam changes... Nope, I'm a Kenwood Dealer... and of course I like to sell Kenwood Products first. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Cort Buffington cort@ wrote: I don't know, Skipp, but you're making me want a CP-200 of my very own now... That wasn't the point was it? :) :) -- Cort Buffington H: +1-785-838-3034 M: +1-785-865-7206
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?
Hi Brent, I agree with Skipp, the LMR is not the cable i would recomend in a duplex preeater install. If you want jumper coax, i only use RG400 and it is a plenum rated silver plated with double shield brade silver. Both Motorola and Kenwood systems use this coax for there internal cableing inside the cabinet. I yet have seen them use LMR coax. Spend the little extra for good coax and you will find yourself much happier and not searching for weird site problems. For the main feed line, you cant get any better then Andrew's LDF coax for repeater installs. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ -- Original message -- From: KF4TNP [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG-393/U M17/127 I use this cable in most runs in the transmitter buildings to and from each station since it has the dual silver shields, I dont have dissimilar metals to worry about. And can handle 1.8kw @950Mhz it works out great. Brent KF4TNP From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet? I think the LMR400 is a double shielded with each shield different metals. One braid and one foil. This is a no-no for duplexed repeaters for the higher TX RF will generate noise getting into receiver. Just to be clear... The dissimilar shield metals is the potential problem source, not the braid - foil combination. And notice I used the term potential problem source. It's not always automatic gremlin 101 right out of the starting gate... Some years back I used a fairly large amount of LMR-400 feed line in various new radio repeater system (applications) until I sourced more than an unacceptable number of antenna system train wrecks specific back to the LM-400 (and LMR-600) cable. Sometimes the problem took months and even years to develop... but from memory I've never had an installation of conventional antenna hard-line or coax feed sabotage a radio system like the many examples I've had to ferret out from or back to LMR-400. No more LMR-400 for me or any antenna system I'm involved with. The other cute dissimilar metal shielded coax problem is how physical cable movement can easily be a noise generator. There is a potential for LMR-400 coax moving in the wind to be noisy... and I have seen that demonstrated in an actual installation. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digit
Agree here, if the hams were to look at the Motorola Mototrbo platform they would quickly relize that they would have two voice paths over a narrow band channel. Now take into consideration, two ham clubs wanted the same channel and now they could and both clubs could even talk at the same time. Now you are maximizing the spectrum available and everyone is happy. My preferance is P25 but since you brought up the Mototrbo topic i thought i would chime in. Not to say that the Mototrbo repeater is any better than the ICOM Dstar. when you open both of them all they are basicly is two mobiles. However the Mototrbo does survive on Cheyenne Mt well and i would bet money that the Dstar would fail in a big way using the same filtering. The transmitter on the Mototrbo has an additional heat sink on the transmitter and is well ventilated. With the tx test of over 8hrs at 40wt UHF continious it worked very well. If some were buy mobiles and portables i would put one up here in Denver Metro to play with and compair the ICOM and Motorola to see what works better. FYI, in late 2009 the ethernet port on the back of the Motorola will be live and networking will be dream, not to mention the ammount of factory support you have available on the Mototrbo. If you want a 100wt continious late 2009 the two slot TDMA board will be available for the MTR2000 as well. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ -- Original message -- From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-Star rigs are expensive as Ham Radio rigs, but how expensive is P25 radios??? Can one add a P25 controller to a typical FM repeater or is it like Icom and one must ICOM for all. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: James Delancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/05/09 Fri AM 10:26:43 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digita Sounds like another reason why I don't care to support D-star :) P25 works so much better (in most cases). I also have a liking for MotoTrbo, but like D-Star, it is kinda proprietary since no one else makes radios for it oh well. James just my 2c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5/9/2008 05:47, you wrote: There have been couple analog repeaters converted to D-Star here. This has been the most growth. The problem I see is that in very case where D-Star analog systems are co-located, the analog system significantly outperforms the D-Star system. So most analog system owners aren't too keen on downgrading their system's coverage. Bob NO6B Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater question
Peter, They will cover the ham bands and work very well at that. Mike -- Original message -- From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok the reason I asked is that we are thinking of putting up a repeater for special events. Would a couple of GM or GR300 work well for this? I know you cold not use them full duty 100% but they would work for temp special event repeaters? I have yet to find a couple of 2CH models that cover the ham bands. Anyone know of a source of the units? Thanks Peter Dakota Summerhawk -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater question Hi Peter, The TK-760 radios are great radios; however, I would post them on EBay and get a few Motorola SM-50 radios. All the connections are on the back on the Motorola and on the Kenwood, you will need to modify the radios to get TOR (PL) out of it and know where exactly to pick it off. If you get the Motorola radios try to get the high power radios and they will play nice at 20wt. Not in Continuous duty mode. Now if you drill out the 4 screw holes on the bottom and mill the bottom of the radio so then you can add a nice heat sink to it. Then they will operate in continuous mode but no more than 20wt. The first version was to mount a small fan on the bottom but ended up using the heat sink method and found it much more reliable. I have had more than 30+ full duplex links made out of these radios and have never had a unit fail. Take your time and plan your project and it will pay off if you do it the right way. Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ) From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Dakota Summerhawk Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater question I have a few of the TK-760s that I have been playing with the idea of thinking of using as a repeater, can this be done? And if so what would it take? Thanks Peter Dakota Summerhawk No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1338 - Release Date: 3/21/2008 5:52 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM
