RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
Typically 2-4 weeks My experience as a buyer and seller using Paypal over their existence, before and after Ebay purchased them, is typically less than 24 hours to clear. In maybe 2-3 cases in over 500 transactions, it was held for 1 week or so and those were echecks.. Maybe they just like me. They have also fought for me on issues that went bad and found in my favor 100% of the time.. again usually in days.. not weeks. as they have specific time policies for arbitration.. and they are quite reasonable. Doug KD8B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Kerouac Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems I have been burned by PayPal several times. The real reason they put the hold on your checks or hold money owed to you has nothing to do with your ratings and little to do with security. Basically, they control billions of dollars in transactions ever month through EBay. By holding the money even a few days (typically 2 to 4 weeks), PayPal makes millions in free interest on your money (your interest, actually). There is little regulation in the industry and since EBay owns PayPal, they can pretty much do as they please with your money and you can just lump it. I'm a capitalist and I hate unnecessary government regulation and any form of socialism. However, I don't see any change soon as these guys are cozy with legislators. Remember, next election, use the NRA method of voting.Never Re-elect Anyone! 73, Don K9NR E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14570 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
On 3/17/2010 1:45 AM, Don Kerouac wrote: I have been burned by PayPal several times. The real reason they put the hold on your checks or hold money owed to you has nothing to do with your ratings and little to do with security. Basically, they control billions of dollars in transactions ever month through EBay. By holding the money even a few days (typically 2 to 4 weeks), PayPal makes millions in free interest on your money (your interest, actually). There is little regulation in the industry and since EBay owns PayPal, they can pretty much do as they please with your money and you can just lump it. I'm a capitalist and I hate unnecessary government regulation and any form of socialism. However, I don't see any change soon as these guys are cozy with legislators. I refuse to use paypal due to privacy concerns (they have been known to sell personal information in the past.) This is just more ammo against using them. Frankly, if someone won't take a USPS money order, then they just don't want to sell. Remember, next election, use the NRA method of voting.Never Re-elect Anyone! 73, Don K9NR LOL! I move that a None of the above box be added! If the largest percentage goes to that, then none of the people running are elected, nor can they ever be elected-ever.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
Didn't eBay ban this method as they werent getting their double dip through Paypal? I refuse to use paypal due to privacy concerns (they have been known to sell personal information in the past.) This is just more ammo against using them. Frankly, if someone won't take a USPS money order, then they just don't want to sell.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
Can someone tell me where the PayPal complaint list is... I have a repeater builder question! J From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DCFluX Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:13 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems Didn't eBay ban this method as they werent getting their double dip through Paypal? I refuse to use paypal due to privacy concerns (they have been known to sell personal information in the past.) This is just more ammo against using them. Frankly, if someone won't take a USPS money order, then they just don't want to sell. Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING www.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. . NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services, residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot more. SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING www.JFCSonline.com Please take note of our new website and E-Mail Addresses. Please update your contacts ASAP. . NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
I've been using Paypal since 1999 and have had absolutely no issues with them. Actually on a sale overseas, they credited me the payment, then 10 days later debited me because they could not access the foreign bank, then that was resolved and I was credited - twice! Paypal is part of the Wells Fargo Bank, so there is no fooling around. And, if they did sell your private information, then millions of people would have their banking information all over the net, and certainly hacked. This has never happened to me ever. And I am leery of on-line banking, but in over 10 years I have never had any reason to distrust Paypal. And they have phone support, unlike Ebay. The only reason Paypal may delay a payment is due to the funds from the sender not being available. Even a money order can be held by your bank for a few days. They now consider them as being a check due to all the fraud going around. That;s what my bank HSBC told me. They won't even accept a walmart type money order any more. Just my humble opinion. Regards Ian VA2IR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
On 3/17/2010 12:45 PM, va...@securenet.net wrote: I've been using Paypal since 1999 and have had absolutely no issues with them. Actually on a sale overseas, they credited me the payment, then 10 days later debited me because they could not access the foreign bank, then that was resolved and I was credited - twice! Paypal is part of the Wells Fargo Bank, so there is no fooling around. And, if they did sell your private information, then millions of people would have their banking information all over the net, and certainly hacked. And that has been happening... This has never happened to me ever. And I am leery of on-line banking, but in over 10 years I have never had any reason to distrust Paypal. And they have phone support, unlike Ebay. erm, uh, paypal IS ebay... The only reason Paypal may delay a payment is due to the funds from the sender not being available. Even a money order can be held by your bank for a few days. They now consider them as being a check due to all the fraud going around. That;s what my bank HSBC told me. They won't even accept a walmart type money order any more. You DO know that HSBC is the Bank of China, right? As in, the bank owned by the communist government?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
Well anyone who divulges their name and or password thru some phishing email deserves to get caught. HSBC Canada is a Canadian Chartered bank. Yes, it is China based, but in the US - who do you think is financing your government debt? The Arabs and the Chinese. Lets close this topic now. Be well At 01:35 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:45 PM, mailto:va2ir%40securenet.netva...@securenet.net wrote: I've been using Paypal since 1999 and have had absolutely no issues with them. Actually on a sale overseas, they credited me the payment, then 10 days later debited me because they could not access the foreign bank, then that was resolved and I was credited - twice! Paypal is part of the Wells Fargo Bank, so there is no fooling around. And, if they did sell your private information, then millions of people would have their banking information all over the net, and certainly hacked. And that has been happening... This has never happened to me ever. And I am leery of on-line banking, but in over 10 years I have never had any reason to distrust Paypal. And they have phone support, unlike Ebay. erm, uh, paypal IS ebay... The only reason Paypal may delay a payment is due to the funds from the sender not being available. Even a money order can be held by your bank for a few days. They now consider them as being a check due to all the fraud going around. That;s what my bank HSBC told me. They won't even accept a walmart type money order any more. You DO know that HSBC is the Bank of China, right? As in, the bank owned by the communist government? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2752 - Release Date: 03/17/10 07:33:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
On 3/17/2010 2:30 PM, va...@securenet.net wrote: Well anyone who divulges their name and or password thru some phishing email deserves to get caught. No-I was talking about paypal/ebay having that info and selling it. Not p/w's, but names, contact info, and at one point credit card numbers, although I think they got busted and can't do that-at least not for US users... HSBC Canada is a Canadian Chartered bank. Yes, it is China based, but in the US - who do you think is financing your government debt? The Arabs and the Chinese. Makes no more difference then the Canadian made Chrysler's/GM's/Ford's. Still a U.S. car. And yeah, I push the nat'l debt issue when I can-that's why I won't have anything to do with HSBC.
[Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just stock answers I then called them to find out why they sent an E Check for my purchase instead of an instant money transfer. Again the lady read from a script and after asking her several times why they handled it this way, she finally told me that they have instituted a new security measure. When a purchase looks suspicious to their Computer, it decides to send an E Check which can take 10 - 15 days to clear. Is there any way to prevent thisno. since no human gets to see this transaction. This might happen in 1 - 2 % of the transactions that they handle. In my case the amount was $185.00 and it came out of my bank account instantly but their computer decided that it might be suspicious ! So hopefully this information is helpful to anyone using Paypal to make payments. I've used them many times in the past and never had a problem until now. John VE3AMZ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
It's happened to me several times as a seller. They hold the instant payment as pending Wont release it until you get positive feedback or send them delivery notification. Their idea of keeping sellers in check. My response to them after several calls was why when I have 100% satisfaction and outstanding feedback. Thier answer, Standard procedure. I say in short just deal with it when you have to and also PAY PAL CAN BITE ME ! :-) --- On Tue, 3/16/10, John J. Riddell ve3...@earthlink.net wrote: From: John J. Riddell ve3...@earthlink.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:45 PM Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just stock answers I then called them to find out why they sent an E Check for my purchase instead of an instant money transfer. Again the lady read from a script and after asking her several times why they handled it this way, she finally told me that they have instituted a new security measure. When a purchase looks suspicious to their Computer, it decides to send an E Check which can take 10 - 15 days to clear. Is there any way to prevent thisno.. ... since no human gets to see this transaction. This might happen in 1 - 2 % of the transactions that they handle. In my case the amount was $185.00 and it came out of my bank account instantly but their computer decided that it might be suspicious ! So hopefully this information is helpful to anyone using Paypal to make payments. I've used them many times in the past and never had a problem until now. John VE3AMZ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
From whom did you order the controller?? On 16/03/2010 20:45:17, John J. Riddell (ve3...@earthlink.net) wrote: Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just stock answers I then called them to find out why they sent an E Check for my purchase instead of an instant money transfer. Again the lady read from a script and after asking her several times why they handled it this way, she finally told me that they have instituted a new security measure. When a purchase looks suspicious to their Computer, it decides to send an E Check which can take 10 - 15 days to clear. Is there any way to prevent thisno. since no human gets to see this transaction. This might happen in 1 - 2 % of the transactions that they handle. In my case the amount was $185.00 and it came out of my bank account instantly but their computer decided that it might be suspicious ! So hopefully this information is helpful to anyone using Paypal to make payments. I've used them many times in the past and never had a problem until now. John VE3AMZ %0
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
oops, forgot to mention another small detail. ebay actually owns paypal. Interesting ? Nice way for them to also collect interest on your money while they hold it on top of listing fees getting higher all the time. --- On Tue, 3/16/10, John J. Riddell ve3...@earthlink.net wrote: From: John J. Riddell ve3...@earthlink.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:45 PM Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just stock answers I then called them to find out why they sent an E Check for my purchase instead of an instant money transfer. Again the lady read from a script and after asking her several times why they handled it this way, she finally told me that they have instituted a new security measure. When a purchase looks suspicious to their Computer, it decides to send an E Check which can take 10 - 15 days to clear. Is there any way to prevent thisno.. ... since no human gets to see this transaction. This might happen in 1 - 2 % of the transactions that they handle. In my case the amount was $185.00 and it came out of my bank account instantly but their computer decided that it might be suspicious ! So hopefully this information is helpful to anyone using Paypal to make payments. I've used them many times in the past and never had a problem until now. John VE3AMZ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
I'll chime in, Paypal inadvertently sent a transaction twice withen 4 seconds of each other. After holding for 30 minutes the asian lady on the phone said there was nothing she could do as the transaction already went through and I'd have to contact the seller and ask to refund one of the transactions, which is funny as both were for the same amount and no I did not hit the send button twice.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, John J. Riddell wrote: Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just stock answers I then called them to find out why they sent an E Check for my purchase instead of an instant money transfer. Again the lady read from a script and after asking her several times why they handled it this way, she finally told me that they have instituted a new security measure. When a purchase looks suspicious to their Computer, it decides to send an E Check which can take 10 - 15 days to clear. Is there any way to prevent thisno. since no human gets to see this transaction. This might happen in 1 - 2 % of the transactions that they handle. In my case the amount was $185.00 and it came out of my bank account instantly but their computer decided that it might be suspicious ! So hopefully this information is helpful to anyone using Paypal to make payments. I've used them many times in the past and never had a problem until now. John VE3AMZ It's because terrorists are Canadian. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems
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[Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems
I have been burned by PayPal several times. The real reason they put the hold on your checks or hold money owed to you has nothing to do with your ratings and little to do with security. Basically, they control billions of dollars in transactions ever month through EBay. By holding the money even a few days (typically 2 to 4 weeks), PayPal makes millions in free interest on your money (your interest, actually). There is little regulation in the industry and since EBay owns PayPal, they can pretty much do as they please with your money and you can just lump it. I'm a capitalist and I hate unnecessary government regulation and any form of socialism. However, I don't see any change soon as these guys are cozy with legislators. Remember, next election, use the NRA method of voting.Never Re-elect Anyone! 73, Don K9NR E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14570 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
