Re: [rhelv5-list] Perl compatible with EL3?

2008-06-16 Thread Jos Vos
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:53:34AM -0400, Barry Andrews wrote:

 EL5 claims to be fully compatible with binaries that were built on EL4 and
 3.

Where is that claimed?  I think this technically can't be true (at least
not in the generic way you put it here), as libraries are upgraded etc.

For applications only using glibc etc., for which there also exist
compatibility libraries and such, it can be true.

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Re: [rhelv5-list] Perl compatible with EL3?

2008-06-16 Thread Barry Andrews
http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/#compatibility

So, I'm thinking this is not the full story because I also found this,

http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/rhel/rhel5_whatsnew.pdf

and it also talks about compatibility ( under the GCC 4.1 Compiler section
).

...enable applications that were previously certified on the versions 3 and
4...

Maybe the keyword here is certified

thanks,

Barry

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Jos Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:53:34AM -0400, Barry Andrews wrote:

  EL5 claims to be fully compatible with binaries that were built on EL4
 and
  3.

 Where is that claimed?  I think this technically can't be true (at least
 not in the generic way you put it here), as libraries are upgraded etc.

 For applications only using glibc etc., for which there also exist
 compatibility libraries and such, it can be true.

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 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands| Fax: +31 20 6948204

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Re: [rhelv5-list] Perl compatible with EL3?

2008-06-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Barry Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/#compatibility

 So, I'm thinking this is not the full story because I also found this,

 http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/rhel/rhel5_whatsnew.pdf


I think there was a parsing part on your part when reading that (no
biggie.. it happens to everyone all the time). There is a HUGE
difference between:

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 includes compatibility libraries that
enable applications built on the versions 3 and 4 to run without
recompilation.

and

EL5 claims to be fully compatible with binaries that were built on EL4 and 3.

Fully compatible means that every library and binary would have a
'-compat' from previous versions. What EL-5 has is a subset of
commonly used compatibility libraries.

To answer your second question, Red Hat enterprise does not ship the
same version of perl in 3,4,5:

RHEL-3: perl-5.8.0-98.EL3
RHEL-4: perl-5.8.5-36.el4_6.3
RHEL-5: perl-5.8.8-10.el5_2.3

That would explain part fo the differences between library sizes and versions.


 and it also talks about compatibility ( under the GCC 4.1 Compiler section
 ).

 ...enable applications that were previously certified on the versions 3 and
 4...

 Maybe the keyword here is certified

 thanks,

 Barry

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Jos Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:53:34AM -0400, Barry Andrews wrote:

  EL5 claims to be fully compatible with binaries that were built on EL4
  and
  3.

 Where is that claimed?  I think this technically can't be true (at least
 not in the generic way you put it here), as libraries are upgraded etc.

 For applications only using glibc etc., for which there also exist
 compatibility libraries and such, it can be true.

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 --Jos Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV   |   Phone: +31 20 6938364
 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands| Fax: +31 20 6948204

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