{S-Scale List} Some Photos
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Thanks to all that joined in the conversation yesterday. It was most appreciated. The one that I thought was pretty funny was texting your switch machine. Pretty good! (:-) I don't text **anything**either! Some additional thoughts since then... In the case of a yard I would most definitely divide it up with DCC circuit breakers, perhaps 3 tracks to a sub-region. NCE makes a 1 in 3 out circuit breaker. To build on the thought of powering the turnout motors from track power, you could use the sub-region adjacent to the 1 you are running on to power the turnouts. That way you are not using the same power to run the trains and turnouts. You could run LEDS to show routing via the use of the headlight function circuits. You don't even need fancy bi-color LEDS, but could use them if you wanted. I believe it was Dave suggesting the one button routing feature. I do want to be somewhat involved with the running so that would not necessarily be a plus for me. I can throw the turnouts. Again this is all coming from me having no knowledge of the accessory decoders. However, I think on the NCE handles you have to go to other menus to access accessory functions. With the motor decoder it is a simple select loco and go. Once the turnout is thrown - select loco, or for some recall and you are back in action. I don't have my handles programmed to use loco recall as I don't see an advantage to it. If you are running the trains via wireless handle the turnout controls would be wireless as well. The means of turnout identification is up to you be it a number ON the layout or a diagram on the fascia. I do have a few motor decoders that were replaced by sound units. But let's just say I can get NCE products for a **excellent price**. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! Custom Train Parts Design http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded (Trading is MUCH preferred) http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls ***Join the PRR THS*** The other members are not ALL like me! http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information I had on the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF 50-Watt transformer, the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it work with a carbon welding rod. Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt transformer, which I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle. While it appears to be capable of doing the job, all it really does is trip the circuit breaker. Two questions: 1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less strain on the circuit breakers? 2. - What else am I doing wrong? Bob Nicholson Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
BOB:
Watts are not the measure of carbon rod success. You need to obtain a
transformer with low voltage, around 6v., preferably with a half-tap to 3v. for
fine work, and 20 amps. The amps are the key. That combination will get you
where you want to go.
Gerry Evans
In St. Louis
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information I had on
the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF 50-Watt
transformer,
the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it work with a carbon welding rod.
Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt transformer,
which
I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle. While it appears to be
capable of doing the job, all it really does is trip the circuit breaker.
Two questions:
1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less strain on
the circuit breakers?
2. - What else am I doing wrong?
Bob Nicholson
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Re: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
I used a 0.5 KVA 6 volt buck boost transformer and a rheostat to control voltage. It will put out 90 amps at 6 volts for large items and with the rheostat can be throttled down to under a volt for small items to avoid vaporizing them. I added an inline voltmeter so I could see how much power I was using after vaporizing a part and getting a lecture from the guy at S Scale Loco Supply a while back. Always start low and add power to avoid my mistake. Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/4/2011 8:55 AM, shabbona_rr wrote: A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information I had on the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF 50-Watt transformer, the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it work with a carbon welding rod. Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt transformer, which I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle. While it appears to be capable of doing the job, all it really does is trip the circuit breaker. Two questions: 1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less strain on the circuit breakers? 2. - What else am I doing wrong? Bob Nicholson Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} resistance soldering
I will say for the 1 trillionth time my PBL Hotip is the best tool I own - period. I have 2 of them. I would not be the mediocre modeler I am without it. I pretty much use it on a daily basis including for DCC installation. Some here more knowledgeable about electronics may want to try and make their own. I have used a homemade unit and for me there is no comparison. A well known steam loco basher here prefers torches. I have not been that daring even after almost 20 years. But a cold solder joint will only came back to haunt you if you are not careful. Granted the new cost of a Hotip as of 2 or so years ago with some extra supplies was in the $700.00 range. Buy once - cry once. You will get over it quickly once you start to use it. Carey mentioned SSLS. I was present with Russ Downs and the then new owner of SSLS - Bob Hartzell, when the subject of resistance soldering came up. Apparently how to make one was in every SSLS loco kit instruction sheet, or the how to instruction sheet was readily available for the asking. Russ quickly convinced Bob to discontinue the instruction sheet for liability reasons. Bob knew a lot about a lot and also agreed. I don't think Fred reissued the instruction sheet.. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! Custom Train Parts Design http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded (Trading is MUCH preferred) http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls ***Join the PRR THS*** The other members are not ALL like me! http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
If I'm applying the formula for converting watts to amps correct, the 175-Watt dual transformer I bought should be putting out 5.8+ amps on each side @15 volts (175W divided by 2 divided by 15) on the output side. Are you saying that if I use the variable voltage post I will raise the amperage as I reduce the voltage? My knowledge of these things has a thick coat of corrosion and rust from years of non-use. Any enlightenment will be welcome. Gary, where did you buy your buck transformer? That is another term and item about which I am hazy. Bob Nicholson _ --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Carey Probst s-scale@... wrote: I used a 0.5 KVA 6 volt buck boost transformer and a rheostat to control voltage. It will put out 90 amps at 6 volts for large items and with the rheostat can be throttled down to under a volt for small items to avoid vaporizing them. I added an inline voltmeter so I could see how much power I was using after vaporizing a part and getting a lecture from the guy at S Scale Loco Supply a while back. Always start low and add power to avoid my mistake. Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/4/2011 8:55 AM, shabbona_rr wrote: A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information I had on the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF 50-Watt transformer, the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it work with a carbon welding rod. Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt transformer, which I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle. While it appears to be capable of doing the job, all it really does is trip the circuit breaker. Two questions: 1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less strain on the circuit breakers? 2. - What else am I doing wrong? Bob Nicholson Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Archer that H27
In a follow up to Don's question, I am also curious which set of Archer rivet decals were used on your car? Thanks, James Mc Auliffe --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Bill Lane bill@... wrote: All, You may remember my H27 made from bashed American Flyer cars. Most of the heavy lifting was done by the late Richard Hall, but I have some time into it as well. I am definitely going for something different - good enough here as I would not spent the time Richard did in getting it this far. This will be a noticeably different car on my layout among a group of S Scalers. It has been about 6 months since I last worked on and posted about my H27. In that time a friend put some rivets on my otherwise smooth car with the Archer rivet decals. I had often thought about getting them but just have not yet. This is my first account I have seen of them on a car at least that was not painted. http://www.lanestrains.com/S_Scale_H27.jpg Some Archer decals will be coming my way at some point. I did some last minute wet sanding. It is going to the paint shop tomorrow. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! Custom Train Parts Design http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded (Trading is MUCH preferred) http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls ***Join the PRR THS*** The other members are not ALL like me! http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
I tried the AF transformer but never got it to work well. A buck boost is a transformer that can be wired either way giving in my case 120 volts to 6 volts. I could have done it backwards and gone 120 volts to 2400 volts but it would have reduced total current capacity to about .25 amp. I have had this unit almost 30 years but I got it locally at an electric supply outfit. Not much internet back in the early 80's. Now days you can probably get it cheap on line but the shipping may kill you. It weighs a ton. Quick search gives http://www.solahd.com/products/transformers/buckboost/Specification.htm but they don't list a 6 volt. Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/4/2011 1:04 PM, shabbona_rr wrote: If I'm applying the formula for converting watts to amps correct, the 175-Watt dual transformer I bought should be putting out 5.8+ amps on each side @15 volts (175W divided by 2 divided by 15) on the output side. Are you saying that if I use the variable voltage post I will raise the amperage as I reduce the voltage? My knowledge of these things has a thick coat of corrosion and rust from years of non-use. Any enlightenment will be welcome. Gary, where did you buy your buck transformer? That is another term and item about which I am hazy. Bob Nicholson _ --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com, Carey Probst s-scale@... wrote: I used a 0.5 KVA 6 volt buck boost transformer and a rheostat to control voltage. It will put out 90 amps at 6 volts for large items and with the rheostat can be throttled down to under a volt for small items to avoid vaporizing them. I added an inline voltmeter so I could see how much power I was using after vaporizing a part and getting a lecture from the guy at S Scale Loco Supply a while back. Always start low and add power to avoid my mistake. Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/4/2011 8:55 AM, shabbona_rr wrote: A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information I had on the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF 50-Watt transformer, the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it work with a carbon welding rod. Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt transformer, which I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle. While it appears to be capable of doing the job, all it really does is trip the circuit breaker. Two questions: 1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less strain on the circuit breakers? 2. - What else am I doing wrong? Bob Nicholson Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} resistance soldering
Is that one for each hand?
Years ago a group of us built our own (included 2 electricians). These are all
still in use. Don Thomas makes carbon (or welding)rod holders from cheap
soldering irons.
John Armstrong
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From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} resistance soldering
I will say for the 1 trillionth time my PBL Hotip is the best tool I own
- period. I have 2 of them. I would not be the mediocre modeler I am
without it. I pretty much use it on a daily basis including for DCC
installation.
Some here more knowledgeable about electronics may want to try and make
their own. I have used a homemade unit and for me there is no comparison. A
well known steam loco basher here prefers torches. I have not been that
daring even after almost 20 years. But a cold solder joint will only came
back to haunt you if you are not careful. Granted the new cost of a Hotip as
of 2 or so years ago with some extra supplies was in the $700.00 range. Buy
once - cry once. You will get over it quickly once you start to use it.
Carey mentioned SSLS. I was present with Russ Downs and the then new owner
of SSLS - Bob Hartzell, when the subject of resistance soldering came up.
Apparently how to make one was in every SSLS loco kit instruction sheet, or
the how to instruction sheet was readily available for the asking. Russ
quickly convinced Bob to discontinue the instruction sheet for liability
reasons. Bob knew a lot about a lot and also agreed. I don't think Fred
reissued the instruction sheet..
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: {S-Scale List} resistance soldering
No question the PBL one is the BMW of resistance soldering units but at
the time I had Chevy $$ and all the stuff to build on. Probably cost me
about $40 at the time and I don't know if PBL even offered them.
The high power has allowed me to use it on other things than trains
which was good.
I did add the PBL tweezers and other tools along the way.
When I was building it a friend who was an EE warned me about being
careful and how even 6 volts could stop a heart if the voltage
penetrated the skin and to never use sharp probes.
Other than vaporizing the occasional small part, so far no issues.
Carey
Carey Probst
Member, M.I.T. Educational Council
S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF
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the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} resistance soldering
I will say for the 1 trillionth time my PBL Hotip is the best tool
I own
- period. I have 2 of them. I would not be the mediocre modeler I am
without it. I pretty much use it on a daily basis including for DCC
installation.
Some here more knowledgeable about electronics may want to try and make
their own. I have used a homemade unit and for me there is no
comparison. A
well known steam loco basher here prefers torches. I have not been that
daring even after almost 20 years. But a cold solder joint will only came
back to haunt you if you are not careful. Granted the new cost of a
Hotip as
of 2 or so years ago with some extra supplies was in the $700.00
range. Buy
once - cry once. You will get over it quickly once you start to use it.
Carey mentioned SSLS. I was present with Russ Downs and the then new owner
of SSLS - Bob Hartzell, when the subject of resistance soldering came up.
Apparently how to make one was in every SSLS loco kit instruction
sheet, or
the how to instruction sheet was readily available for the asking. Russ
quickly convinced Bob to discontinue the instruction sheet for liability
reasons. Bob knew a lot about a lot and also agreed. I don't think Fred
reissued the instruction sheet..
Thank You,
Bill Lane
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Re: {S-Scale List} SAL B7 boxcar reservation tally - need a few more
I bought 2 on spec and to help out. Howard Sheffield My question to the dealers. Are your models already spoken for or are you buying on spec? I'm interested but cannot pay right now. thanks Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/1/2011 11:18 AM, SMMW wrote: I am at 29 dealer and 49 retail reservations. The dealer's tally is equivalent to 22 retail orders, making the total 71 of the required 80. C'mon guys . push a little harder to make this happen. Talk it up at your club meetings and among fellow modelers. It's close. Jim King Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc. Ph. (828) 777-5619 www.smokymountainmodelworks.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} SAL B7 boxcar reservation tally - need a few more
Can I reserve one with a partial payment? Either paypal or send you a check? thanks Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/4/2011 2:44 PM, hjsh...@mcn.org wrote: I bought 2 on spec and to help out. Howard Sheffield My question to the dealers. Are your models already spoken for or are you buying on spec? I'm interested but cannot pay right now. thanks Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/1/2011 11:18 AM, SMMW wrote: I am at 29 dealer and 49 retail reservations. The dealer's tally is equivalent to 22 retail orders, making the total 71 of the required 80. C'mon guys . push a little harder to make this happen. Talk it up at your club meetings and among fellow modelers. It's close. Jim King Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc. Ph. (828) 777-5619 www.smokymountainmodelworks.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} SAL B7 boxcar reservation tally - need a few more
Sorry that was meant to be to Howard, not the list. Dumb attack. Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/4/2011 2:44 PM, hjsh...@mcn.org wrote: I bought 2 on spec and to help out. Howard Sheffield My question to the dealers. Are your models already spoken for or are you buying on spec? I'm interested but cannot pay right now. thanks Carey Carey Probst Member, M.I.T. Educational Council S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. On 5/1/2011 11:18 AM, SMMW wrote: I am at 29 dealer and 49 retail reservations. The dealer's tally is equivalent to 22 retail orders, making the total 71 of the required 80. C'mon guys . push a little harder to make this happen. Talk it up at your club meetings and among fellow modelers. It's close. Jim King Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc. Ph. (828) 777-5619 www.smokymountainmodelworks.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
Bill,
You could use one output (sub-region) of the circuit breaker to power just
the decoders that run the turnouts. Then they should always work, even when
there is a track short.
It sounds like the main reason you are looking at using loco decoders is so
that you don't need to change menus on the throttle. If you do this you may
want to program the decoder so that all speed steps provide the same
voltage, whether it's full or some reduced level.
It's been awhile since I've touched a NEC throttle, but many throttles still
allow at least easy speed control of a loco while in the accessory menu
area.
Dave Heine
Easton, PA
-Original Message-
From: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com [mailto:S-Scale@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Lane
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:29 AM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
Thanks to all that joined in the conversation yesterday. It was most
appreciated. The one that I thought was pretty funny was texting your
switch machine. Pretty good! (:-) I don't text **anything**either!
Some additional thoughts since then...
In the case of a yard I would most definitely divide it up with DCC circuit
breakers, perhaps 3 tracks to a sub-region. NCE makes a 1 in 3 out circuit
breaker. To build on the thought of powering the turnout motors from track
power, you could use the sub-region adjacent to the 1 you are running on to
power the turnouts. That way you are not using the same power to run the
trains and turnouts.
You could run LEDS to show routing via the use of the headlight function
circuits. You don't even need fancy bi-color LEDS, but could use them if you
wanted.
I believe it was Dave suggesting the one button routing feature. I do want
to be somewhat involved with the running so that would not necessarily be a
plus for me. I can throw the turnouts.
Again this is all coming from me having no knowledge of the accessory
decoders. However, I think on the NCE handles you have to go to other
menus to access accessory functions. With the motor decoder it is a simple
select loco and go. Once the turnout is thrown - select loco, or for some
recall and you are back in action. I don't have my handles programmed to
use loco recall as I don't see an advantage to it.
If you are running the trains via wireless handle the turnout controls would
be wireless as well. The means of turnout identification is up to you be it
a number ON the layout or a diagram on the fascia.
I do have a few motor decoders that were replaced by sound units. But let's
just say I can get NCE products for a **excellent price**.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
I'm missing something here. Each of my turnouts have a Tortiose motor, two
panel mounted LED indicators, and one pushbutton DPDT action switch. To change
the turnout, push button, watch LED to confirm action complete. To change back,
push button again, watch LED. Please explain how DCC is better, cheaper, or
more effective than that. I regularly run at shows for two days at a time,
without derailments, without stalling, and without DCC.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, David Heine davesn3@... wrote:
Bill,
You could use one output (sub-region) of the circuit breaker to power just
the decoders that run the turnouts. Then they should always work, even when
there is a track short.
It sounds like the main reason you are looking at using loco decoders is so
that you don't need to change menus on the throttle. If you do this you may
want to program the decoder so that all speed steps provide the same
voltage, whether it's full or some reduced level.
It's been awhile since I've touched a NEC throttle, but many throttles still
allow at least easy speed control of a loco while in the accessory menu
area.
Dave Heine
Easton, PA
-Original Message-
From: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com [mailto:S-Scale@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Lane
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:29 AM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
Thanks to all that joined in the conversation yesterday. It was most
appreciated. The one that I thought was pretty funny was texting your
switch machine. Pretty good! (:-) I don't text **anything**either!
Some additional thoughts since then...
In the case of a yard I would most definitely divide it up with DCC circuit
breakers, perhaps 3 tracks to a sub-region. NCE makes a 1 in 3 out circuit
breaker. To build on the thought of powering the turnout motors from track
power, you could use the sub-region adjacent to the 1 you are running on to
power the turnouts. That way you are not using the same power to run the
trains and turnouts.
You could run LEDS to show routing via the use of the headlight function
circuits. You don't even need fancy bi-color LEDS, but could use them if you
wanted.
I believe it was Dave suggesting the one button routing feature. I do want
to be somewhat involved with the running so that would not necessarily be a
plus for me. I can throw the turnouts.
Again this is all coming from me having no knowledge of the accessory
decoders. However, I think on the NCE handles you have to go to other
menus to access accessory functions. With the motor decoder it is a simple
select loco and go. Once the turnout is thrown - select loco, or for some
recall and you are back in action. I don't have my handles programmed to
use loco recall as I don't see an advantage to it.
If you are running the trains via wireless handle the turnout controls would
be wireless as well. The means of turnout identification is up to you be it
a number ON the layout or a diagram on the fascia.
I do have a few motor decoders that were replaced by sound units. But let's
just say I can get NCE products for a **excellent price**.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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{S-Scale List} Re: Archer that H27
Hi all; I have no idea which set was used on Bills H27, I think I bought their Starter Set which includes several sizes and spacings of rivets intended for various scale armor and aircraft models. Most of these work out close to the 5/8ths and 7/8ths sizes they make in the three railroad scales. A little time with the calculator will tell you which sizes match. I wouldn't ask for S sets as I doubt we'd buy enough to be worth their while to make. Micro Mark announced their own version today, in HO, at a lower price. I won't buy them, since they are a copycat product without even acknowledging someone else was offering them first... http://www.archertransfers.com/SurfaceDetailsMain.html Pieter E. Roos --- On Wed, 5/4/11, JamesM jmncm@verizon.net wrote: In a follow up to Don's question, I am also curious which set of Archer rivet decals were used on your car? Thanks, James Mc Auliffe Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Sacaramento Genuine AF Layout
Gentlemen.. I have just learned that the National Train Show (across the street from the NASG/NMRA joint convention) will have on display a genuine A.C.Gilbert department store layout which was designed and built in the 1950's. Yes, Gilbert's Art Department constructed this layout specifically for Sibley's Department Store in Rochester, NY. And the gentleman who currently owns the layout is bringing it to Sacramento for our viewing pleasure. So let us not hear any more comments about how there is not much AF at this convention and train show. We are doing our best and expect everyone to go home train-saturated and happy. Two hotels are already sold out and a third hotel is now accepting reservations. Come join us. More detailed information about this layout will be forthcoming shortly. Stay tuned to this station... Thanks..Ed Loizeaux [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
I ask the same question and think about the limitations of having the switch
controls in a static location. I'm not facile enough with my throttle control
to do all the menu (or whatever) navigation to think I could make turnout
control work through the throttle. But I can see the appeal. I sometimes
wonder about having a couple of control panel locations (say a master and
remotes that are interconnected. Has anyone tried this?
Ben Trousdale
London, UK for two weeks!
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Gavin csowry@... wrote:
I'm missing something here. Each of my turnouts have a Tortiose motor, two
panel mounted LED indicators, and one pushbutton DPDT action switch. To
change the turnout, push button, watch LED to confirm action complete. To
change back, push button again, watch LED. Please explain how DCC is better,
cheaper, or more effective than that. I regularly run at shows for two days
at a time, without derailments, without stalling, and without DCC.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, David Heine davesn3@ wrote:
Bill,
You could use one output (sub-region) of the circuit breaker to power just
the decoders that run the turnouts. Then they should always work, even when
there is a track short.
It sounds like the main reason you are looking at using loco decoders is so
that you don't need to change menus on the throttle. If you do this you may
want to program the decoder so that all speed steps provide the same
voltage, whether it's full or some reduced level.
It's been awhile since I've touched a NEC throttle, but many throttles still
allow at least easy speed control of a loco while in the accessory menu
area.
Dave Heine
Easton, PA
-Original Message-
From: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com [mailto:S-Scale@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Lane
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:29 AM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
Thanks to all that joined in the conversation yesterday. It was most
appreciated. The one that I thought was pretty funny was texting your
switch machine. Pretty good! (:-) I don't text **anything**either!
Some additional thoughts since then...
In the case of a yard I would most definitely divide it up with DCC circuit
breakers, perhaps 3 tracks to a sub-region. NCE makes a 1 in 3 out circuit
breaker. To build on the thought of powering the turnout motors from track
power, you could use the sub-region adjacent to the 1 you are running on to
power the turnouts. That way you are not using the same power to run the
trains and turnouts.
You could run LEDS to show routing via the use of the headlight function
circuits. You don't even need fancy bi-color LEDS, but could use them if you
wanted.
I believe it was Dave suggesting the one button routing feature. I do want
to be somewhat involved with the running so that would not necessarily be a
plus for me. I can throw the turnouts.
Again this is all coming from me having no knowledge of the accessory
decoders. However, I think on the NCE handles you have to go to other
menus to access accessory functions. With the motor decoder it is a simple
select loco and go. Once the turnout is thrown - select loco, or for some
recall and you are back in action. I don't have my handles programmed to
use loco recall as I don't see an advantage to it.
If you are running the trains via wireless handle the turnout controls would
be wireless as well. The means of turnout identification is up to you be it
a number ON the layout or a diagram on the fascia.
I do have a few motor decoders that were replaced by sound units. But let's
just say I can get NCE products for a **excellent price**.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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{S-Scale List} Equipment for sale
gentleman, I have the following for sale,, 1 RR NKP 2 8 4 factory painted $1600,, 1 RR PM 2 8 4 unpainted $1500,, 1 RR CO 2 10 4 Texas painted $1800 ,, 1 RR NYC H 10 a 2 8 2 $1500 ,,1 RR NYC H10 B 2 8 2 painted $1500,, ! set Omnicon PRR baldwin Sharks ABA painted $1200. Thanks For Looking Bert Cutler Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: replies to my post
Hi Gavin; While I guess a case could be made for being able to activate a turnout without moving to the button location (especially on layouts where you could be on the wrong side of a peninsula), many folks who advocate DCC for train control have zero interest in asking an engineer to set the turnout from his throttle. That's the brakeman's job! Or the tower operator/dispatcher, if it is a remotely operated turnout. Pieter E. Roos --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Gavin cso...@clear.net.nz wrote: I'm missing something here. Each of my turnouts have a Tortiose motor, two panel mounted LED indicators, and one pushbutton DPDT action switch. To change the turnout, push button, watch LED to confirm action complete. To change back, push button again, watch LED. Please explain how DCC is better, cheaper, or more effective than that. I regularly run at shows for two days at a time, without derailments, without stalling, and without DCC. --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, David Heine davesn3@... wrote: Bill, You could use one output (sub-region) of the circuit breaker to power just the decoders that run the turnouts. Then they should always work, even when there is a track short. It sounds like the main reason you are looking at using loco decoders is so that you don't need to change menus on the throttle. If you do this you may want to program the decoder so that all speed steps provide the same voltage, whether it's full or some reduced level. It's been awhile since I've touched a NEC throttle, but many throttles still allow at least easy speed control of a loco while in the accessory menu area. Dave Heine Easton, PA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
This started when Bill asked about using loco decoders to power turnouts on
a DCC controlled layout. There are various ways to control turnouts and
what works for you is fine for you. No one said that using DCC to control
turnouts would be cheaper, it is just another option. We all have our
individual preferences.
I my personal case I view DCC controlled turnouts as the easiest way to
control them while standing in multiple locations, which is necessary
because of my home layout's topography. Also many (but not all), of the
accessory decoders allow pushbutton inputs so that you have the option of
having both panels and using the throttle. This is really why I went this
route. I can easily add panels later on. Certainly not the cheapest
option, but more versatile than just pushbuttons.
As a note, on a previous layout I used pneumatic turnout controls, which
worked very well. However, it got very expensive if turnouts had to be
controlled from more than one location.
Dave Heine
Easton, PA
-Original Message-
From: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com [mailto:S-Scale@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Gavin
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:36 PM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} replies to my post
I'm missing something here. Each of my turnouts have a Tortiose motor, two
panel mounted LED indicators, and one pushbutton DPDT action switch. To
change the turnout, push button, watch LED to confirm action complete. To
change back, push button again, watch LED. Please explain how DCC is better,
cheaper, or more effective than that. I regularly run at shows for two days
at a time, without derailments, without stalling, and without DCC.
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{S-Scale List} Re: Look Don - No Control Panel
Bill, My three SMOD modules, including the one I just added to my home layout, were built with Tortoise switch machines controlled by Wabbit (basically a two decoder Hare) running on the DCC power bus. The Wabbits are about mid-range in cost per turnout, but offer lots of useful options. One is that they can be powered by DC if you are planning to have lots of stall motor controlled turnouts on the layout and are concerned about the DCC boosters power budget. You still connect them to the DCC bus for command signals, but the power for the decoder itself and the turnout motor it controls comes from the DC feed. They also allow you to connect either toggle or pushbutton manual controls. If you use momentary contact manual switches, then they still allow the throttle(s) to change the switch position. If you use latching contacts on the manual switch, then they act to lock the Wabbit and the stall motor into the position selected manually. If you want to control both turnouts in a crossover simultaneously from the DCC throttle, you can just give them the same address. Wiring the manual switches in parallel to both input controls on a Wabbit (or a pair of stationary stall motor decoders from any manufacturer) would accomplish the same thing on the manual control side. A really nice feature of using decoders is that most of them (and the Wabbits certainly) can be programmed to respond to more than one address. So you can have a unique address that only throws one turnout, while having another that sets a route through your yard containing any number of turnouts. Each Wabbit can be programmed to select straight or diverging route based on the throttle command, or you can set one or more to do the opposite of whats being commanded, or you can specify which route to set the turnout controlled by a specific address without regard to whether the throttle is commanding straight or diverging. For example, if you have five turnouts between the mainline on one of your yard tracks, you could assign a commonroute address to all five of the stationary decoders controlling the switch motors -- this is in addition to having a unique address per decoder so you can still throw them independently. They also have several timing and occupancy detection options that can be used to automate turnout operations if you want to run your railroad that way. I haven't used any of those features personally. Final comment is on DCC accessory decoder address space. On my Lenz system, the accessory (i.e. stationary) decoders have a separate addesss space from the engines. This is a fairly common feature of DCC command stations, though there may be some that don't have this provision. Most allow at least three digit (up to 999 unique) addresses for accessory decoders. So if you want, you can have a loco with address 20 at the same time you have one or more stationary decoders responding to address 20. When the throttle is in loco control mode, the mobile decoder in the loco will respond to address 20. When you switch to accessory/turnout mode, the stationary decoder attached to the turnout motors will respond to address 20. Each decoder will ignore address 20 commands sent in the opposite command mode. Regards... Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Resistance soldering (again)
Well, since resistance soldering is once again on the back burner, thanks to Nicholson's Law where nothing works for me like it does for everybody else, I commenced ballasting on the big curve between Bonaparte and Mt. Zion. The procedure here was to put in a sub layer of ballast consisting of good 'ol SE Iowa Rhoad Dhurght (found only in SE Iowa, by the way). I tamped it in around the ties, checked the cross level of the curve bank, and secured it with Future floor wax. The Test was running a train over the main line. This was successful, and I suspect no further problems unless visiting dignitaries should show up. Then there will probably be springs, parts and profanities flying all over the place, but for now, operations are on track. Bud Rindfleish, where were you last weekend? Bob Nicholson --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@... wrote: A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information I had on the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF 50-Watt transformer, the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it work with a carbon welding rod. Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt transformer, which I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle. While it appears to be capable of doing the job, all it really does is trip the circuit breaker. Two questions: 1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less strain on the circuit breakers? 2. - What else am I doing wrong? Bob Nicholson Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Turnouts and Yards.
I had a rather exciting day; I rebuilt my Staging Exchange yard area. Some years ago I built a large shelf over the S/E yard and it never was easily accessible. Now you can see the yard and it is a easily accessible. (All of the turnouts in the yard are manual.) Next up is to clean and detail it. I also have to box/store about 20 more freight cars so as to make more room to run trains through the yard. Unlike Frank Titman's excellent barge shelved storage racks, or the one I really like, Ed Loizeaux's train storage cabinet, I store my off the layout equipment in special boxes made for such a purpose. The boxes are marked and I know what is stored in each one, as I have a card inventory system. Each box stores roughly 18 cars. Locomotives are stored on the layout, like the prototype, at the engine house and diesel yards. It has been a long time since I've spent an entire day model railroading. Feel's great! Bill (FRaley) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Turnouts and Yards.
A storage area is only as good as my designer Kathy Ireland book case I use for
my layout trains. LOL
Really, found this really nice oak book case, as I was able to get additional
shelves and Kathy designed it just for me. Right.
Now my train room has class.
Mike
From: Willam Fraley
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:57 PM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} Turnouts and Yards.
I had a rather exciting day; I rebuilt my Staging Exchange yard area. Some
years ago I built a large shelf over the S/E yard and it never was easily
accessible. Now you can see the yard and it is a easily accessible. (All of
the turnouts in the yard are manual.)
Next up is to clean and detail it. I also have to box/store about 20 more
freight cars so as to make more room to run trains through the yard.
Unlike Frank Titman's excellent barge shelved storage racks, or the one I
really like, Ed Loizeaux's train storage cabinet, I store my off the layout
equipment in special boxes made for such a purpose. The boxes are marked and
I know what is stored in each one, as I have a card inventory system.
Each box stores roughly 18 cars. Locomotives are stored on the layout, like
the prototype, at the engine house and diesel yards.
It has been a long time since I've spent an entire day model railroading.
Feel's great!
Bill (FRaley)
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{S-Scale List} Re: Resistance soldering (again)
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@... wrote: Well, since resistance soldering is once again on the back burner, thanks to Nicholson's Law where nothing works for me like it does for everybody else, I commenced ballasting on the big curve between Bonaparte and Mt. Zion. The procedure here was to put in a sub layer of ballast consisting of good 'ol SE Iowa Rhoad Dhurght (found only in SE Iowa, by the way). I tamped it in around the ties, checked the cross level of the curve bank, and secured it with Future floor wax. The Test was running a train over the main line. This was successful, and I suspect no further problems unless visiting dignitaries should show up. Then there will probably be springs, parts and profanities flying all over the place, but for now, operations are on track. Bud Rindfleish, where were you last weekend? Bob, Well on the Wednesday before the Spree my wife badly sprained her ankle and had to stay off of it for a couple days and use crutches after that. Since she was going to come with me and then visit some sites she looked up on the net, I decided we couldn't make it as I didn't want to leave her home alone. Did you see any of the ATSF Industrial Rail cabooses at the show? Bud R. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Archer that H27
James, My friend was nice enough to say I am going to take that car and put rivets on it because that is what it should have. And that is just what he did. Judging from what I heard a sheet costs there is probably $10.00+ worth of rivets on the car. I am not 100%, but I am pretty sure he used HO regular and HO tank car rivets. I was a little surprised that you can see the difference in the shape. BTW, the H27 got painted at about 5:00 this afternoon. I am a bit more of a believer in them after seeing the car in paint. I will give it a few days to dry and some decals might get put on next week. Of course you can somewhat see the strip of decal film, but there is not much you can do about that. When I first heard about the Archer rivets some were trying to put the rivets on **individually** on an HO car to avoid seeing the decal film. Again, I am not that ambitious especially with this car. That is also why I probably don't have any sheets- yet. That will change at some point. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! Custom Train Parts Design http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded (Trading is MUCH preferred) http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls ***Join the PRR THS*** The other members are not ALL like me! http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Resistance soldering (again)
Bud: My wife at least waited until Friday when I was already there to sprain her ankle. She was using a walker for a couple of days, but now she's healed to the point where she can walk unassisted again. I didn't see any Industrial Rail cabooses. I know there has to be some more out there somewhere. Does anybody reading this know of any? Bob Nicholson _ --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@ wrote: Bud Rindfleish, where were you last weekend? --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Bud Rindfleisch BlackDiamondRR@... wrote: Bob, Well on the Wednesday before the Spree my wife badly sprained her ankle and had to stay off of it for a couple days and use crutches after that. Since she was going to come with me and then visit some sites she looked up on the net, I decided we couldn't make it as I didn't want to leave her home alone. Did you see any of the ATSF Industrial Rail cabooses at the show? Bud R. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
Lower the voltage and less current will flow.
Charles Weston
--- On Wed, 5/4/11, shabbona_rr user141...@q.com wrote:
From: shabbona_rr user141...@q.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Resistance soldering (again)
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 12:04 PM
If I'm applying the formula for converting watts to amps correct, the
175-Watt dual transformer I bought should be putting out 5.8+ amps on each side
@15 volts (175W divided by 2 divided by 15) on the output side. Are you saying
that if I use the variable voltage post I will raise the amperage as I reduce
the voltage?
My knowledge of these things has a thick coat of corrosion and rust from years
of non-use. Any enlightenment will be welcome.
Gary, where did you buy your buck transformer? That is another term and item
about which I am hazy.
Bob Nicholson _
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Carey Probst s-scale@... wrote:
I used a 0.5 KVA 6 volt buck boost transformer and a rheostat to control
voltage.
It will put out 90 amps at 6 volts for large items and with the rheostat
can be throttled down to under a volt for small items to avoid
vaporizing them. I added an inline voltmeter so I could see how much
power I was using after vaporizing a part and getting a lecture from the
guy at S Scale Loco Supply a while back.
Always start low and add power to avoid my mistake.
Carey
Carey Probst
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S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF
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On 5/4/2011 8:55 AM, shabbona_rr wrote:
A while back, I built a resistance soldering unit per some information
I had on the subject. While it worked using a pencil lead with an AF
50-Watt transformer, the 50-Watts was not powerful enough to make it
work with a carbon welding rod.
Over the weekend, I picked up a dual throttle AF 18B 175-Watt
transformer, which I assume works out to 87.5-Watts for each throttle.
While it appears to be capable of doing the job, all it really does is
trip the circuit breaker.
Two questions:
1. - Can I connect the two sides in parallel for more power and less
strain on the circuit breakers?
2. - What else am I doing wrong?
Bob Nicholson
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{S-Scale List} Sn2 Trucks from Smokey Mountain Model Works
Anyone have either freight truck and the passenger truck for sale? Would like to buy one of each... Dave Jacobs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Posted by: Edward Loizeaux
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{S-Scale List} resistance soldering
I hate to disagree with Bill, but the American Beauty Model 250 watt unit is actually better than the PBL version. I know, I have both. The American Beauty has a rheostat whereas the PBL has a rotary switch to vary the heat intensity. The more variable setting allows for greater control of heat application. I use the PBL on the road as the tips are 1/8 whereas the American Beauty has 3/32 tips. The only real drawback I find to the American Beauty is that the 3/32 tips will really burn down fast at high settings and are not as robust as the 1/8 ones. The 3/32 tips are very expensive. If I could find long pieces of 3/32 carbon rod, I would be very happy. The 1/8 stuff is fairly easy to get locally so I never have to pay top dollar for tip replacement. I have a friend who built his own and it doesn't work as well as mine. That doesn't mean that a home grown can't be made to work as well or even better, it's just that he has problems with heat control and tends to melt things and put holes in the sheet metal. Way back in 1975 I figured that if I was going to start messing around with a $300 brass loco, I wanted to have something that would not destroy it, hence the PBL unit. I do most of my building in brass because that is what I am most accustomed to, so those resistance units have paid off many times. Any media is good that gets the job done as far as I'm concerned whether its brass, resin, wood, cardstock or plastic. It's how one uses the media that counts. I always marvel at dynamite models at Prototype Modellers meets done in all sorts of media using all sorts of methods. Too bad Mainline Modeller is gone. It was the best for sharing ideas about building things. cheers, Andy Malette Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
