Re: {S-Scale List} AF Mantua-based 4-4-0
The Mantua HO General 4-4-0 came out before W W II. The first loco I ever
owned. Die Cast
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: RobertN
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} AF Mantua-based 4-4-0
Well, scratch that Great Idea, I guess. What's it going to take to get a
mid-(Civil War period) 19th Century 4-4-0 and rolling stock to match, assuming
I would live long enough to see it?
I already know what I could do with the Franklin passenger cars.
boB Nicholson
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Charles Weston rotary-oy@... wrote:
Bob,
I think that might be AF HO.
Charles Weston
From: RobertN user141771@...
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 4:44 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} AF Mantua-based 4-4-0
Â
Has anybody ever heard of, or seen, the Mantua General-based frontiersman
4-4-0
(http://hoseeker.net/gallery/index.php?album=mantuatyco%2Fmantuasteamenginesimage=americanflyermantua440frontiersman.jpgzp=full-image)
I just found one on the Hoseeker website, but could not copy the photo,
only the link to the website. If anybody has, or knows, where there are maybe
one or two of these engines, I may have a deal for you.
boB Nicholson___
{S-Scale List} Oct. Dispatch
Hi Folks Got my Oct Dispatch today WOW! Great issue. Thanks Bill W, Bill P and all the others involved in this effort. And delivered in the early part of Oct. Promises kept. Thanks John Foley
Re: Re: {S-Scale List} Hinged or solid points to throwbar
Does all this add up to a group of S gaugers where some are hinged and others
are unhinged??
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: pickyca...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 11:56 PM
Subject: RE: Re: {S-Scale List} Hinged or solid points to throwbar
I soldered all my points to the throw bar and all the points were hinged for
both code 100 and code 125 rail. I made the hinges for 125 rail out of SHS
insulated joiners and for 100 rail out of PECO insulated joiners. The throw
bars were made of PC board with a gap in the copper foil. The rail soldered
like a charm to the foil. The main trick is to heat the end of the point so
that it would melt solder before making contact with the foil. The foil
delaminates if it gets too hot. Only failures were initial bad solder joints.
They held for 10 years or more. One aspect I didn't like was that some of the
point assemblies would work their way away from the hinge until the throw ran
into its adjacent tie. There was not enough movement to cause the rail to work
free of the hinge joiner; I just didn't like the unsightly gap. I think this
creep was due to the tension at the rigid joints at the throw bars.
Ben Trousdale
---In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, s-scale@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Michael,
I have elected to go with soldering the rails to the throw bar, but I
don't have years of in use experience. Therefore I would also like to hear
from anyone who has had such in place for some time.
Jamie Bothwell
Curious in Bethlehem, PA
On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:26 PM, meldridge@... wrote:
Time for a final (?) decision. Should I solder the point rails to the
throwbar, or solder a tab to the rails and put a screw through the tab into the
throwbar? I'm most curious to hear from people that solder the rails to the
throwbar. Fill in the blanks: In years of operating them I've had _
solder joints come apart.
-Michael Eldridge
Re: {S-Scale List} 7th Annual NOSS Inter-State Get Together-My first time at Jack's!
Sharon is the best hostess.. We wanted to go but everything worked against it.
John Armstrong
Need any Pennsy Items?
I'm downsizing due to age.
- Original Message -
From: Bob South
To: s-scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:33 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} 7th Annual NOSS Inter-State Get Together-My first
time at Jack's!
I just realized that a week has passed since the 7th Annual NOSS Inter-State
Get Together last Saturday, 09/28/13. Although this was my second time at the
event, it was my first visit to the Sudimak residence, where Sharron graciously
hosted the event.
Sharron noticed my Pittsburgh S-Gaugers shirt and welcomed me to her home. I
was promptly shown the basement stairs as she could read the longing in my eyes
to get a long awaited look at the famous Penn Creek Western layout. I was
told the layout was still being put together, due to renovations to the
electrical service, but being my first time I couldn't tell. As long as I could
run my I-1, I was happy!
John Henning greeted me and introduced me to the members and out-of-town
guests. Following a tour of the layout, my PRR I-1 was assigned to the second
level for its first run since I acquired it. John loaned me the tender from
Jack's I-1 to get me started while he couplerized my tender. Thanks, Jack,
for your efforts and the 802 coupler!
The I-1 was connected to the 10-15 cars waiting an engine and I started it
around the layout. Several attendees noticed that the caboose was not of the
Pennsy variety and I was asked to stop the engine while a Pennsy portal
windowed caboose was placed on the rear. This is a scale event you know!
Now that the train was as realistic as we could get it, I proceeded to
slowly accelerate the train. My fears were laid to rest as I got to see
that the I-1 could creep and accelerate as slowly as I hoped it would. This is
my only brass locomotive and I was not sure it was money well spent. I think it
will serve me very well once my layout is completed.
Clinic time put an end to my train running. That's OK as the clinics were
well worth the time. Ed Kirstatter showed us how to make realistic coal loads
for hoppers, something a lot of us need to do. Mike Lytle presented a look at
the many ways the new X-29 boxcar kit can be used to model various boxcars.
Thanks Ed and Mike for your efforts and for your video presentations.
What better food to serve a group of men, and a few women than chili. There
were two pots of delicious chili on hand along with a veggie tray, pistachio
and many other desserts and drinks. The weather was ideal for a picnic on the
deck.
A group photo ended our outdoor activities and it was now time to spend some
money. I found a great deal on some 802 couplers and a coupler adjusting plier.
This event attracted S-Scalers from Buffalo NY, Pittsburgh PA (me), and
several locations in Ohio near the border of West Virginia. Sharron gave the
word that she would like to continue this event into the future as Jack would
have wanted. I hope so!
My thanks to the NOSS group and Sharron, the host, and all those who made the
day a success. I will be there next year and promise not to write such a
lengthy review.
Bob South
Re: {S-Scale List} RE: My FNF 9/22/13
Jewelry parts and tool suppliers, and watch makers tool supplierss sold such
apron for years. I do not know if they do any more. Your idea is good (or
start wearinga long skirt.)
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: blackdiamon...@gmail.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:45 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} RE: My FNF 9/22/13
Bill, boB, I have been picking small parts up off the floor for years. One
day I decided to pick up a butcher's apron from our local butcher shop. I
inquired about buying a used apron, laundered of course! They sold me one for
$5. I cut the tie strings off and had my wife sew on some Velcro squares at the
lower corners. I glued the other half of the Velcro under the lower edge of my
workbench. This works real well at catching the errant small parts, or maybe
about 99% of them anyway. I put a small cup hook under the bench edge also,
centered, to hang the neck loop on when I'm done with it. One does have to
remember to hang the neck loop before getting up and walking away though! I
understand jewelers have used something similar for years.
Bud Rindfleisch
---In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, s-scale@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Why is it that everything I drop falls on the floor?
This makes me curse and fret as I try to find something to lean on, so that I
can bend over and pick it up, that is, after I find the darn thing.
If Mary is near-by, she will hurriedly pick it up, so as to save me from my
frustrations.
I guess when we were younger we never minded dropping anything. Tsk! Tsk!
If I can get away from this computer, I hope to get back to running trains
and working on my layout. With John Bortz gone, I've been thinking a lot about
Frank Titman. On those marvelous shots of John's layout you see the large port
and cargo ship underneath it. Well, Frank Titman built that for John, as a
present, now that is what good friends do for one another.
Frank also helped dig out John's basement!
I love model railroading the friends it produces and I do miss my buddies who
have passed on to the Great Railroad in the sky!!
See Ya,
Bill (Fraley)
Re: {S-Scale List} Animated Black Smith
Put the layout on the floor and crawl around it with a skateboard.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Animated Black Smith
All I got was a facehoo toolbar suggesting I might be interested in how to
get long eyelashes and what Testosterone can do for my *** life. I rather they
tell me how to get up from the floor after picking up all this 0-80 hardware!
boB Nicholson ___
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Andre Ming laming@... wrote:
Wow. Talk about creative, and a good modeler to boot.
Thanks for the link.
Andre
- Original Message -
From: Peter Vanvliet
I just came across this video by Laurie McLean, who is an Australian MMR
who has been doing some amazing work in O- and HO-scale. This is the first time
I've seen him do an S-scale project.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiDTHk28wp8
Enjoy,
- Peter.
Re: {S-Scale List} FNF 9/22/13
Use chewing gum on your shoes. That picks up spilled small parts fast
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF 9/22/13
Are you kidding? Even the last order of stainless steel machine screws I
got from MicroFasteners are as good as non magnetic. No it's tweezers all the
way.
boB __
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Andre Ming laming@... wrote:
Ferrous metal? If so, then a magnet perhaps?
Andre Ming
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF 9/22/13
Still picking up small 0-80 screws and assorted hardware scattered oaround
after my container of 0-80 hardware hit the basement floor jelly side down
about a week ago.
boB Nicholson ___
Re: {S-Scale List} Microscope slide glass
The O gaugers back in the 30's used that glass in their built up passenger cars.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cheryl Martin
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Microscope slide glass
Hi Dave
If you can find a Jan 09 RMC, our good friend Trevor Marshall had a useful
article on how to cut and use microscope slide glass.
Jim Martin
On September 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM David Engle riroc...@att.net wrote:
Has anyone ever tried to use microscope slide glass for glazing windows.
I ran across this decades ago but never did anything with it.
Dave Engle
Re: {S-Scale List} FNF 9/22/13
The floor comes up at you faster as you get older.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Andre Ming
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF 9/22/13
boB said:
Are you kidding? Even the last order of stainless steel machine screws I got
from MicroFasteners are as good as non magnetic. No it's tweezers all the way.
Well... it was an idea.
0-80 non-magnetic screws all over the basement floor: My lands, boB... you
sure know how to mess up, don't 'cha???
In my minds eye I can see you down on your creakin' n' crackin' knees with a
Visor-Vue on... tweezers in hand... squirting teeny-tiny screws off into
never-never land tryin' to pick'em up with the tweezers!
Does your wife help you back up??? (Ever notice how far away the floor gets
as we age?)
Andre Ming
Re: {S-Scale List} New Yahoo Neo problems
I thought they changed the name to YEHOO.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Pieter Roos
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} New Yahoo Neo problems
Well, if everybody wanted to take a week off, that would be fine. We are,
however, pretty small as yahoo groups go. Getting the other group owners on the
managers list to all stage an outage for the same week would be more noticeable.
Pieter Roos
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, g...@yahoo.com wrote:
Not wanting a couple extra e-mails a day, I like coming to the homepage.
I do dislike not being able to put up my full e-mail address so I can be
contacted off-line. I think Andre Ming came up with a elegant solution. Use
the word at instead of @ as a workaround. Thus if you wish to reply to me
off-line, then it's gsc3 at yahoo.com. I did notice I was the only person
whose e-mail showed up last time I checked the membership. Is it because I
recently went in and changed my preferences? Am I not getting full e-mail
addresses because you have to go back to membership preferences before Yahoo
will allow it.
I enjoy this group and it's good advice. But the only way to get the new
lady Yahoo CEO who is being celebrated in business circles for forcing being
cool on us is to go on strike for a week. Should we group members discuss a
weeks strike? If all the groups did that Yahoo would notice the fall in hits
and then be concerned. I'm not anti-Yahoo, just anti some of the changes.
George Courtney
Re: {S-Scale List} Draft Gear II
Did you say drft beer, or draft gear? John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 5:20 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Draft Gear II [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Bill Lane included below]
Whoops
I forgot about the TIF issue. Here is the JPG.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} John Bortz
Hi Folks
Sorry to hear about John, Another of our pioneers of S gone. I was lucky
enough to visit with
John and his layout a couple of times.
.
My condolences to John's Family
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: gabby...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:36:02 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} John Bortz
For all who knew John Bortz, h e passed away peacefully today (9-14-13),
1:34PM at 94 years old. Me and my Grandmother (his eldest child) were at his
home cleaning things out when we got the call, I was down in the remnants of
his basement layout cleaning thi ngs up. So it was kind of cool to think his
spirit was down there looking at it with me. He was doing fine up until a few
weeks ago. Just wanted to let anybody who knew him know had passed. I posted
photo's of his layout in the photo's section of it before being dismantled for
auction.
Re: {S-Scale List} New Format ?
Or those who cannot change modeling gauges.
jOHN aRMSTRONG
- Original Message -
From: Tom Hawley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} New Format ?
- Original Message -
From: tennsga...@aol.com (Earl Henry)
This is the first I have heard of this problem of not being able to reply
offline, . . . . . . . . . . Am I wrong? What am I missing?
[Earl H]
I, and apparently Bill F, also see no difference. Reply to sender is still
at the bottom of each e-mail, or you can hit reply and enter the single e-mail
address you want.
Maybe it's in the group web-site, which I rarely visit, but I shall have a
look. Maybe it's an IQ test, to weed out those who can't deal with change.
I note also that those who have trouble with it post their complaints under
the subject Triple Unit 1939 Daylight Diner-
Tom Hawley -- Lansing Mich
.
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Admin - New Format
STAY OUT OF POLITICS IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE MAKING CONNECTIONs
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Admin - New Format
OK, back to modeling, here's one for you - where do I find these little bitty
solder type connectors for working on models. It seems the Chinese have no
trouble finding them, and I assume that most knowledgeable modelers find them
on a rack at their local CVS pharmacy or local hobby shop, but that doesn't
work for me, nor do some of these mega-mailorder electronic warehouse with
10,000 choices and no photos or descriptions to help dummies like me.
Help, please,
boB Nicholson
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Bill Lane bill@... wrote:
Since the new Yahoo format has not run us all over yet let's keep list posts
off this topic. Once it is here for all we will have to deal with it.
Otherwise there is a minute chance it will go away if there is enough
complaining..
Back to things modeling.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: This groups new format
As long as you are guiding the changes,
At 91 I Just got 2 new hearing aids from the VA. When a fork touches a plate
it has the sound of a broken dish.
Have not tried a sound system yet.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: This groups new format
Didn't Face-Hoo try this a few years ago with no success?
boB Nicholson _
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed Kozlowsky soldado7264@... wrote:
I hear you Roger, I'm elegible in October. Still, there's no need to rush
in when it's not neccessary. My desktop still runs XP and I have no desire for
an i thingie. The Yahoo changes really don't count as technology upgrades,
just a change in GUI (General User Interface). Life's been changing for me
since I was born, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine
sscale.org
From: Roger Nulton roger.nulton@...
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: This groups new format
Â
Rich and Rusty,
Â
I have been one of Yahooâ?Ts â?oneoâ? guinea pigs for over a week now,
and it has been a bit of a nightmare. Today most everything in the new format
appears to be working. It does take some getting used to, but there are some
improvements, as well as some losses. I still canâ?Tt find where the members
are listed now.
Â
Getting old is not for sissies, I heard. Constantly changing technology
is one of the issues I think about a lot. Then I go down to the basement and
indulge in my childhood fantasies!
Â
Roger Nulton
Medicare eligible this month.
Â
From: richgajnak
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:28 PM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: This groups new format
Â
Looks like it hit my work PC, but not my home PC (yet...)
Apparently, on the new format, you can no longer browse the messages
without first logging in.
*sigh*
Rich G(ajnak)
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Info request
Hi Folks
I agree with Ed, Scott produces great turnouts
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: Edward Sauers ehsaue...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:07:35 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Info request
Jim,
If you are looking for assembled turnouts I highly recommend buying from Scott
Wickham, he sell assembled turnouts made on a Fasttrack fixture(gig) on ebay
that are the best workmanship I have ever seen. You can also get info from him
directly at john wickham scott...@yahoo.com
Just for an example he sells #6 code 100 turnouts on laser cut ties on ebay for
somewhere around $43
To see pictures of his work look on the track section under s-scale on ebay.
Ed Sauers
From: shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:41 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Info request
Jim:
I'm not sure what your requirements for tracwork are, but Code 100 rail and
Atlas Customline switches re-gauged for S have worked well for me
boB Nicholson __
--- In mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com , WJJIM@... wrote:
Guys and Gals,
Getting ready to build a new S layout, quickly exhausting track choices.
Does anyone have recent experience with the redesigned GarGraves S
switches, good or bad Appreciate any help.
Jim Lyle
{S-Scale List} NOSS 7th Annual Get Together 09/28/2013
Dear Fellow `S' Scalers; Now that everyone is back from the NASG Convention in Scranton the Northern Ohio `S' Scalers are willing to host any guests who would like to attend our September Seventh Annual NOSS Inter-state Get Together on the last Saturday of September. (09/28/13). We have moved our normal last Sunday of the month meeting to Saturday to help with traveling. A few years back Jack Sudimak suggested to a number of the `S' Scale hobbyists' about a possible get together in OHIO to coincide with our monthly N.O.S.S. meeting. The last six years have been successful and a number of you have inquired if we were doing it again. Since we started doing this people have had conflicts the prior years and want to attend this year. As you all know Jack Sudimak lost his battle with the disease that was attacking his lungs last October. For the second year in a row we will be meeting down the street from Jacks. This was something he looked forward to every year since starting this. We are still not sure when his layout may be available for viewing again. Lafayette United Methodist Church 6201 Lafayette Rd. Medina, OH44256 So our club will put on our continuing clinic on DCC, Ed Kirstatter's Load for Fright Cars and one or two others in the works. The new 18 foot N.O.S.S. layout will be there. We are hoping Alan Evans can bring the NASG switching layout again. As always, lube up those locomotives sitting on your shelves and double check the KD heights on the engines and cars and bring them to try them on the layouts. DC or DCC. Bring what you are currently working on or just completed for everyone's enjoyment. See Mike Warmans first Place entry Diorama from the 2013 NASG Convention. The conclusion will still have a great meal at the Church. As last year we would like to ask for a $10 contribution from everyone to cover additional expenses with the location and picnic supplies. Email me an RSVP so we can plan accordingly or if you have any questions. -- John Henning(Head Snipe) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Convention photos
Hi Bill
Excellent photos. Thanks for sharing
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:10:38 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} NASG Convention photos
If you did not attend or just did not get enough of Scranton, here are my
convention photos – full strength! That is OVER 3 GB of photos. Some people
have successfully completed the download some have had issues. Try it a few
times. If it works for you – good. If it does not work for you – sorry. I am
not going to send anyone a DVD Data disc. Again it is 3 GB – way too big for a
CD.
You have to have a ZIP program, Windows 7 or newer, or a recent Mac to unzip
the file. Click it and go do something else - like go on vacation ! (:-)
http://www.lanestrains.com/NASG_2013.zip
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Contests and Judging
They will be getting canes with flashlights in the handle.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: raisinone
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:31 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Contests and Judging
Maybe complaints about room lighting are just a symptom of our collective
aging and increasingly poor eye sight! G
I noticed a few folks in Scranton carrying small LED flashlights and I
believe Dan Navarre at River Raisin Models had one to light up fine detail on
his brass models to potential customers. Might be we should all start carrying
them. Personally I don't enter model contests, I'm not that good a modeler, but
in the future contest judges might be given a small LED flashlight as a token
of NASG's appreciation for their service and to just flat help them see. Sounds
like an idea that could be communicated to NASG's contest chairman - Monte
Heppe...
Bill, thanks for your kind words and congratulations to you, a well deserved
honor. I had the pleasure of spending 14 hours in a car with Sam McCoy
driving home. Let me tell you, he's a heck of a lot more fun chasing trains
ahead of a thunderstorm in Ohio! {GRIN}
Jim Kindraka
Plymouth, WI
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Michael Greene mgreene@... wrote:
Regarding contest room lighting:
One of the previous NASG conventions (I think 2007, but not 100% sure)
developed a nice set of lights for lighting the contest models. Built on 8'
sections of half round (cut lengthwise) large diameter white PVC to provide the
light reflector. Worked pretty well I thought. They were passed on to the
Bristol Club for the 2008 convention and we passed them on to the next
convention. I am not sure where they are now. But I thought it was nice that
nice models got better lighting...
Regards
Michael
--
Michael Greene
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Bud Rindfleisch BlackDiamondRR@... wrote:
Roy, Yes the contest room had good lighting, ...
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Contests and Judging
S judges are bright eyed folks. NMRA are mass media.
(spent years there before hitting up S. Was a judge once in Cleveland. Lunch
was 3:30
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Willam Fraley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Contests and Judging
Folks Judging models is very tedious, the judge must know what the
prototype is, or they can't accurately judge the model.
I've witnessed NMRA judges wearing Binocular Magnifier Lens when appraising a
model, however, I don't feel that our NASG judges are as stringent.
Basically, it would be nice to have a critique after the contest. We do
that at our photography contests. It's amazing the different concepts coming
from the judges, many disagreeing with each other. But in model contests it is
different and the winners are won on points, but it still would be nice to have
critiques.
Most likely this will never happen as after the judging's in our model
contests, the room is locked up, later the models are taken home and that's it.
I often wondered what was good and bad about my entry, but never had the
opportunity to find the judges and ask so I accept the ruling and get on with
my life. I don't even like to write about our contests, as I have caused some
pretty heavy breathing because of my innocent remarks.
Such is life, but I still like to enter my models regardless and I've been
entering models since 1962 when I won my first Award for a pretty bad BW image
of my Jefferson Central Railroad Station at night. I was so proud!
Frankly, I feel every entry should receive an award, boy, then would we have
a lot of models entered!
So, there!
Bill FRaley
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: displaying contests
I once had a (prominant) S gauger drop a brass PRR - long covered hopper. He
took no responsibility.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: wpscaler
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: displaying contests
Bill: I for one agree with you about not touching ones models.
If need be, one should ask first. And I don't believe being a judge
gives anyone special rights to paw contest models.
Maybe your sign should have read Please Do Not Touch. Thank You.
Any way right on !
Art Ferguson
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Bill Lane bill@... wrote:
I learned the hard way many years ago. I just finished my first BO I12
caboose. I took it to the South Jersey S Scalers meeting that very night and
set it on the table. My mistake - because there was potato chips in the same
house and sadly on that SAME table. Yup - not 10 minutes after my arrival
there was a big ole greasy Wise potato chip thumbprint (NO partial print
here!) right on the side of the bay window cupola. It would take NO special
CSI skills to figure out whose thumb it was. Luckily I was able to wipe it
off quickly and touch up the damage the next day
At the PRR THS conventions, the model room committee had a policy of
moving every model in the room to a better place for photography. They felt
that because they were all modelers they knew what do to. It has been a long
time since I placed my models there. It is a popular vote with starting this
year as a best in show only. I strongly disagree with anyone handling
someone else's models for any reason. I surely would not do it.
I am not implying the judges at Scranton would be disrespectful or eat
potato chips and handle models. I spent a reasonable amount of time fixing
my 5495 just a few days before going. I all but broke off the cab wind
deflector assembling it for the first time so that had to be fixed. It is
just my way of do not touch at all times. If the modeler needs to show
full the underbody it would be displayed with a mirror somehow. If I lost
points for my do not touch sign so be it.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/ http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com/ http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com/ http://www.prslhs.com
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Re: {S-Scale List} displaying contests
Thats why they named those chips WISE
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:40 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} displaying contests [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Bill Lane included below]
I learned the hard way many years ago. I just finished my first BO I12
caboose. I took it to the South Jersey S Scalers meeting that very night and
set it on the table. My mistake - because there was potato chips in the same
house and sadly on that SAME table. Yup - not 10 minutes after my arrival
there was a big ole greasy Wise potato chip thumbprint (NO partial print here!)
right on the side of the bay window cupola. It would take NO special CSI skills
to figure out whose thumb it was. Luckily I was able to wipe it off quickly and
touch up the damage the next day
At the PRR THS conventions, the model room committee had a policy of moving
every model in the room to a better place for photography. They felt that
because they were all modelers they knew what do to. It has been a long time
since I placed my models there. It is a popular vote with starting this year as
a best in show only. I strongly disagree with anyone handling someone else's
models for any reason. I surely would not do it.
I am not implying the judges at Scranton would be disrespectful or eat potato
chips and handle models. I spent a reasonable amount of time fixing my 5495
just a few days before going. I all but broke off the cab wind deflector
assembling it for the first time so that had to be fixed. It is just my way of
do not touch at all times. If the modeler needs to show full the underbody it
would be displayed with a mirror somehow. If I lost points for my do not touch
sign so be it.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
{S-Scale List} Scranton !! Convention
Hi Folks Thanks to Jamie and his small crew this years convention was most enjoyable. Everything run smoothly as far as I could see. Also congratulations to my friend Bill Fraley for winning the Bernie Thomas award. Well deserved. Again thanks Jamie
Re: {S-Scale List} While it is not over yet....
Water powered in Tenn.,
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: tennsga...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} While it is not over yet
What is the power for the excursion? Is it diesel or steam?
- Earl Henry, Nashville
In a message dated 8/10/2013 8:11:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
b...@lanestrains.com writes:
We are going on the train ride at Steamtown shortly……
I would like to publically thank Jamie Bothwell and his merry band of
volunteers for a great convention here in Scranton. If you did not attend you
missed a good time for sure.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
{S-Scale List} Southern Pacific S Scale Bay Window Caboose
I have a Gold Coast Southern Pacific C-30-4 Bay Window Caboose that I would like to sell. It is road # 1236. First $ 230.00 takes it plus Priority Mail Shipping. I accept a Paypal payment. Anyone interested contact me at scott...@yahoo.com Thanks, John S Wickham Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Tomorrow came early
Say hello to Jettie for me. I don't get around anymore as my DCC (derelict
carcus control) does not work any more
(at 91)Thank him for all he has done for S, and the quality person he is.
John Armstrong
He is the only s gauger I've ever known wo has bombed a nudist camp
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Tomorrow came early [3 Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from Bill Lane included below]
Jettie got into my area a little earlier than expected so we got together
this afternoon. He got to meet the wild pack AKA the Goof Troop and look
through the Magic box of Lanes Trains S Scale parts truly less than 3 other S
Scalers have ever seen. Donna and I had a great dinner with him - in full
Jettie story mode. I saw Jettie's van was full of goodies so BRING MONEY!
Jettie is coming back tomorrow like our original plan to run trains. More
photo opportunities. With great friends visiting who needs the convention?
OOOooopps - sorry Jamie! (:-)
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
{S-Scale List} Jeff Madden
Hi Folks I also would like to thank Jeff for all his hard work these many years. As our Dispatch editor He has spent many hours of his own time producing a quality magazine for us all. Jeff Thanks. John Foley
Re: {S-Scale List} Dock
fLOAT IT ON THE kANAWA
ja
- Original Message -
From: Bill Diane, B.T.S.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Dock
On 7/31/2013 7:42 AM, shabbona_rr wrote:
Maybe you could pick up a war surplus Liberty ship and put your layout in
that. Imagine the possibilities!
Good plan, Bob but not too many large bodies of water here on the
mountain top in WV.
Take care
Bill
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Re: {S-Scale List} s scale america x29
How is the EBT doing?
Downsizing the house, as my health is also downsizing (at 91)
Ed Cass is somewhere in Georgia.
Bo Hamerling is coming tomorrow for materials. He has a marvelous Sn3 layout to
keep us going.
Is anyone using 3D printing for EBT cars?
Stay healthy John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: leerai...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:19 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} s scale america x29
I will take 10.seriously. This (and its non-prr clones) was the iconic
boxcar of the 50s. Near matches were numerous on b+o rdg w+le and many
more. Just what I need for my prr-ebt layout. Lee rainey
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Busted tours
ASS gaugers??
JA
- Original Message -
From: Jeffrey Madden
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Busted tours
And the famous bus backup during the 1990 Pittsburgh Convention. I wasn't
in S then, but found out later that Pete Mihelich and some other S folks were
on that layout tour bus. The tour bus ( a big tour type) pulled up to a famous
HO modeler's house (Riley I think) on a narrow, hilly, one-way street
sandwiched on both sides by parked cars. After the visit, the driver found out
that the street was a dead end and had to carefully, painstakingly, back the
big bus about 1/2 mile and all the time worrying about all those parked cars.
The riders at the back of the bus, of course, help him successfully navigate
that. But then, the bus was pulled over by a cop for driving the wrong way on
a one-way drive in a park area. The driver was trying to make up lost time. He
played dumb and the cop let him off. And lastly, we visited on layout - I
think Larry Kline's O scale - which was in one of those old large Pittsburgh
mansions that was three stories high. You guessed it - to see the layout we
had to climb up to the third story attic.
And then there was the 2008 layout bus tour during the Lowell NASG convention
that went from Lowell, Mass., into NH and then back to two layouts in Mass.
After the second layout it was bathroom time for many - u - the bus toilet
was full, so out of order, and those in the back had a pretty bad odor to deal
with. We managed to get to the last layout in a pouring rain (you know what
that does to the potty urge?). And no bathroom available. Since it was dark,
I, and maybe others, wandered around a neighborhood until I found a secluded
bunch of trees. There are some real lessons here for layout tour planners.
Jeff Madden
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Mill Gondolas
Are these the MILLS of the Gods?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bob Werre
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Mill Gondolas
Pieter, Actually that's pretty impressive. I really like the overhead crane
similar to the Leigh Valley version. That is the best and probably the safest
way to do a lift of that size--with a single crane.
What do you think the two braces running from the gon to the ground are for?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx
Well, somebody did :
http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/bedt/bedtoversize2.jpg
Not quite what Bob described, but still impessive.
Pieter E. Roos
From: shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Mill Gondolas
Back in the days of yore, Santa Fe used to haul structural steel out of a
steel plant in Lemont. A string of those cars made for a long train indeed,
loaded or empty.
Pictures? Who takes pictures of stinking old trains?
boB Nicholson
Re: {S-Scale List} Shapeways GP38 shell and other mumblings
What about some S Scale Shapeways dachshunds??
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Shapeways GP38 shell and other mumblings
I was poking around Shapeways for the first time in years. I came across this
GP38 shell.
http://www.shapeways.com/model/500207/gp38-2-locomotive-body-only-s-scale.html?li=productGroupmaterialId=6
Has anyone ordered it? Was the quality good?
By the time you get the shell and other shell components you are at $250.00.
At least for the GP38 I would go fishing for the Overland model. (I already
have one)
BUT is there a micro market for quality ready to use ***plastic*** for diesel
shells up to maybe $300.00 that are not available in any form in S? (SD40-2?)
Maybe it could be like my recent ala cart sales with most of the large
components available (shell, floor, sideframes) with pointing to NWSL drive
components for your separate purchase. The end results what be a complete loco
sans little details and model supplies you already have.
I would be ALL OVER Baldwin power + my long wanted last group of PRR RS3.
Waddaya All think?
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
{S-Scale List} Hawk Mill
Hi folks, I have the Lehigh Valley Hawk Mill kit left @ $45, plus shipping. Please let me know if you would like it. Thanks, John Albee Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Election Results
Hi Jamie
Thanks for the announcement. Great results, all good guys.
I'm sure Bill Winans will be a great president and do good things
in the future.
Also congratulations to my fellow LVSG member Dave Heine.
John
- Original Message -
From: Jamie Bothwell vze4c...@verizon.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:00:05 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} NASG Election Results
Hello Folks,
Since many of you are NASG members I feel that it is reasonable to make this
announcement here. The NASG Election Results are as follows:
President: Bill Winans
Treasurer: Jim Kindraka
Eastern Vice President: Dave Heine
Central Vice President: Gerry Evans
Western Vice President: James McAuliffe
The ballot initiative to amend Article III, Section 8 passed 296-7.
The ballot initiative to amend Article V, Section 9 passed 286-20.
Thank you to everyone who stepped forward to serve the organization whether
they were elected or not, and thanks you to everyone who participated in the
process by voting.
Jamie Bothwell
NASG Election Committee Chairman
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Bob Hogan in print
Gavin
When will someone do a working Sn3 model of the Rimatucka line?
John Armstrong (rode it in 1943)
- Original Message -
From: Gavin
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Bob Hogan in print
You can view the from cover of the June issue, on line. Looks good.
Gavin Sowry
New Zealand
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, adguytrains robert_hogan@... wrote:
Too funny!
My May Carstens publications, RMC and Railroad/Railfan, didn't arrive until
May 21st so I wouldn't expect the June issue until at least the 15th. I have
not seen the magazine as yet either. As stated already, they have been playing
catch-up for six months.
Bob
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Jim Cheryl Martin themartins@ wrote:
Hi Bob. Looking forward to being impressed. I only just got my May issue.
However the good thing with this arrangement is the praise lasts a full
month.
Cheers
Jim Martin
On June 6, 2013 at 8:06 AM adguytrains robert_hogan@ wrote:
Jeff...
Thanks for the kind words. Just doing our part to promote S scale and
the
NMRA convention in Atlanta next month. The layout is on tour and the
Piedmont
Division is doing one heck of a job with this convention. It will be
one of
the best Nationals ever! Pete Silcox also has his nice S scale Georgia
Railroad on tour.
Bob
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com ,
Jeff
nyow55@ wrote:
All;
Be sure to read the June 2013 edition of Railroad Model Craftsman.
Our own BOB HOGAN has an article on his S scale layout,
The Sierra Northern.
Beautiful layout and a very nice article!
Congrats Bob
Jeff Sankus
Re: {S-Scale List} powering frogs
I'm 100% with you Bob N. I use slide switches as I said, but I keep them above the benchwork, draw the power from the nearest rail. Keep it simple and trouble free and spend a whole lot less time fussing around trying to make things work right, and a whole lot more time enjoying my hobby and running trains with my buds! -John Le Forestier, Toronto Join the worldwide 100th Birthday John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast on July 2 2013! It's a traditional railroader's breakfast of flapjacks and jam from strawberries, the big crop 'round Monterey where John lived, with tea or coffee. Substitutes are ok of course. Enjoy your breakfast at home or form a group. Mark your calendar today. Take a little time on this special day to remember John, model railroading's Wizard of Monterey, creator of the astonishing Gorre and Daphetid Railroad, and take another look at some of the fabulous photographs and innovations he introduced to our great hobby. Help spread the word, not just the jam! It's easy. Tell your club, your online forums and groups about it. This initiative has been undertaken by a small group of volunteers - model railroaders. We depend completely on you to get the word out wherever you can at home and abroad, ASAP. Join us for the month of June. Paste this entire postscript into your email signature. Get the official poster, more info and downloadable files here: http://tinyurl.com/md57tum --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@... wrote: I use lever operated SPDT switches (http://cnc.en.alibaba.com/product/730052561-212162659/LXW5_Micro_Switch_Sensor.html) to control frog and track power. I mount them for throwbar control either above the benchwork, or below, using a homemade linkage. Trackpower is provided by the proper running rails to the switch, then a wire to the frog and a jumper to the insulated rail beyond the frog. I find that mounting them above the benchwork and using the switch throwbar to operate them. Simple, expedient, and reliable, a bane to the high-tech and Dcc crowd, but it works for me. boB Nicholson __ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast [1 Attachment]
*[Attachment(s) from John Le Forestier included below] My ignorance... It's not my group Bill, and I didn't know that. I'll fix it somehow, either by persuading the listowner to open the files to the public for this month, or by setting up something else PDQ. In the meantime for a start, anybody can copy the paragraph at the bottom of my e-mails. Thanks for the heads up. I'm attaching the poster, which is the main thing, for you. You have permission of course to spread it around! Cheers! John Le Forestier Join the worldwide 100th Birthday John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast on July 2 2013! It's a traditional railroader's breakfast of flapjacks and jam from strawberries, the big crop 'round Monterey where John lived, with tea or coffee. Substitutes are ok of course. Enjoy your breakfast at home or form a group. Mark your calendar today. Take a little time on this special day to remember John, model railroading's Wizard of Monterey, creator of the astonishing Gorre and Daphetid Railroad, and take another look at some of the fabulous photographs and innovations he introduced to our great hobby. Help spread the word, not just the jam! It's easy. Tell your club, your online forums and groups about it. This initiative has been undertaken by a small group of volunteers - model railroaders. We depend completely on you to get the word out wherever you can at home and abroad, ASAP. Join us for the month of June. Paste this entire postscript into your email signature. Get the official poster, more info and downloadable files here: http://tinyurl.com/md57tum John Le Forestier, Toronto. The Littleton and Smallville Railroad is on Google maps: http://tinyurl.com/gardenrailroad *Attachment(s) from John Le Forestier: * 1 of 1 Photo(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/attachments/folder/1663516360/item/list * JAM Breakfast 003.jpg Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Electrically Foolproof Turnouts
I use manual turnout controls exclusively on handlaid switches. A dpdt slide switch in line with the throwbar on the operator's side acts as the throw mechanism. On commercial turnouts I would apply whatever mechanical means I could devise to connect such a slide switch in line with the throwbar. I assemble all this, including the soldering of wires as required, on the workbench, test, then install as a unit. I have handmade turnouts made this way that have performed flawlessly and that have been installed and reinstalled in various settings, for 30+ years. I don't use the newer microswitches as I have found them unreliable - it may be that my soldering efforts melt some of the internal works - anyway with my failing eyesight, I've given up on them in my dotage. The older style larger switches, still available everywhere, have a body about 1x1/2, and work just great, as they always have. Cheers! -John Le Forestier, Toronto Join the worldwide 100th Birthday John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast on July 2 2013! It's a traditional railroader's breakfast of flapjacks and jam from strawberries, the big crop 'round Monterey where John lived, with tea or coffee. Substitutes are ok of course. Enjoy your breakfast at home or form a group. Mark your calendar today. Take a little time on this special day to remember John, model railroading's Wizard of Monterey, creator of the astonishing Gorre and Daphetid Railroad, and take another look at some of the fabulous photographs and innovations he introduced to our great hobby. Help spread the word, not just the jam! It's easy. Tell your club, your online forums and groups about it. This initiative has been undertaken by a small group of volunteers - model railroaders. We depend completely on you to get the word out wherever you can at home and abroad, ASAP. Join us for the month of June. Paste this entire postscript into your email signature. Get the official poster, more info and downloadable files here: http://tinyurl.com/md57tum --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, donlhand@... donlhand@... wrote: Members - During 2007 Dick Karnes provided a two-part article on this subject in 1:64 Modeling Guide. I applied Dick's technique to Old Pullman turnouts on each of two S-Mod standard modules I built, using Bullfrog Manual Turnout Controls which provide a SPDT to power route the frog. These turnouts only access an industrial siding on each module. But I've bolted the modules end-to-end, and want to add a wing to each end of the pair, to create a switching layout on the back wall of our garage. That will change the two-track mainline on the modules into a passing siding (in order to run-around and serve additional industries on each wing). As an aside, I recently replaced the Bullfrog on one module (which had failed electrically, probably by reason of rough handling of the module) with a Caboose Industries ground throw Item 220S, which also has a SPDT and was recommended in Dick's article. Also from Dick's article, if one or both tracks are part of your main line or a passing siding, you must gap the rails beyond the frog and provide jumper wires to power them. The solution is to employ two extra sets of SPST contacts on your turnout throw mechanism. Here's the question: What manual turnout throw mechanism provides two extra sets of SPST contacts? Yes, Bullfrog provides a position for a second SPDT; but has anyone re-worked that into two sets of SPST contacts? No, Caboose Industries 220S does not appear to be expandable to add two sets of SPST contacts. I believe Tortoise and other electronic turnout machines have this capacity, however I'd like to stay in a manual environment for both the modules and their wings. What solution can you share? Thanks. Don Hand Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast [1 Attachment]
My error.; learning as I go... I've contacted the listowner, asked him to open
it up. Use my postscript for now, and I've attached the poster for you.
You're free to copy and republish all this wherever you can, of course!
-John Le Forestier, Toronto
Join the worldwide 100th Birthday John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast on July 2
2013! It's a traditional railroader's breakfast of flapjacks and jam from
strawberries, the big crop 'round Monterey where John lived, with tea or
coffee. Substitutes are ok of course. Enjoy your breakfast at home or form a
group. Mark your calendar today. Take a little time on this special day to
remember John, model railroading's Wizard of Monterey, creator of the
astonishing Gorre and Daphetid Railroad, and take another look at some of the
fabulous photographs and innovations he introduced to our great hobby. Help
spread the word, not just the jam! It's easy. Tell your club, your online
forums and groups about it. This initiative has been undertaken by a small
group of volunteers - model railroaders. We depend completely on you to get the
word out wherever you can at home and abroad, ASAP. Join us for the month of
June. Paste this entire postscript into your email
signature. Get the official poster, more info and downloadable files here:
http://tinyurl.com/md57tum
John Le Forestier, Toronto.
The Littleton and Smallville Railroad is on Google maps:
http://tinyurl.com/gardenrailroad
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. - Attributed to Leonardo da Vinci.
--- On Mon, 6/3/13, clipper...@att.net clipper...@att.net wrote:
From: clipper...@att.net clipper...@att.net
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, June 3, 2013, 12:08 PM
john:
that link also doesn't work, something about needing to be a member
mel perry
On Jun 3, 2013, at 6:58 AM, John Le Forestier wrote:
signature. Get the official poster, more info and downloadable files here
{S-Scale List} John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast
Join the worldwide 100th Birthday John Allen Memorial (JAM) Breakfast on July 2 2013! It's flapjacks with strawberry jam and tea or coffee, but substitutes are ok of course. Enjoy breakfast at your home or form a group. Take a little time on this special day to remember John, model railroading's Wizard of Monterey, creator of the astonishing Gorre and Daphetid Railroad, and take another look at some of the fabulous photographs and inovations he introduced to our great hobby. Help spread the word, not just the jam! Get more info and downloadable files here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GandD/files/John%20Allen%20Me morial%20Breakfast/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Weekend Fun
I think they call it Dead Diesels
Did anyone ever paint a steam loco like they have on diesels? ( S.P.) On our
RR excursions in the Columbus Ohio area back in the 30's and 40' we painted
silver or white trim and stripes on the steamers.
Taking it off at 2 in the morning.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bob Werre
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Weekend Fun
I'm finishing up the images on a Dallas layout that also is being built and
operated by a group of perhaps 20. Even though it's primarily a S layout, I
don't think any of the helpers or operators are--in fact several are so-called
Live Steam. Of course that's also becoming an outdated term as most of the
steam guys aren't around anymore either. But somehow live diesel doesn't
sound right.
Anyway like Ed, you don't have to know everything--you just need volunteers
or custom builders who can grasp the concepts of the layout and put their
specialties to good use. I think if we all involved other scales in our layout
our scale might be more popular and we might have grown a bit.
Ed has mentioned using JMRI to help operate his layout. The Dallas layout
also uses it for signaling and other electronic communications. A couple of
guys were crawling under the layout to trouble shoot some boards. I plan on
using the operations segment to help in getting back in the operations mode. I
had everything setup with the RailOps program. Unfortunately the PC computer
that ran everything has died with all the data. Since the JMRI program is Mac
friendly I hope to go that way. It looks like I will need 4-5 operators when
the time comes--but there's lots to do if I do it myself. boB needs scenery
elves and I need a computer/RR expert.
Bob Werre
The mighty NYC in California has had over 55 people helping with
construction. Many are HO modelers, some are S modelers, a few are O modelers,
one N modeler and two custom builders who work in all scales (one engine and
one structure). Large complex layouts frequently have more than just the owner
working on them or else they would never get finished.
Bruce Chubb, of HO and CMRI fame, has two work crews which come over on two
nights per week. Each crew has 20+ members I have been told. That is a lot of
manhours to dump into layout building.
Right now a retired software engineer is working on the NYC's JMRI Logix
programming so that the signals will function as they should. A complex task
for most, but this guy actually thrives on it. Everybody has a specialty it
seems.
The lone wolf with a large layout is a rare breed these days. An informal
group effort is much more common -- at least around here.
CheersEd Loizeaux
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
We will. The people who create.
Not the dirtyhedge funds who only know how to chase a dollar irregardless of
where it comes from, or for what reason.
IF ANY
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Brian Jackson
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
That is really bad news as I rely on Floquil for 80 percent of what I do and
Scalecoat for the rest. I do not want to switch to acrylics. Been there, done
that, got the crappy tee shirt, and swore never again to gum up my internal mix
airbrushes or deal with the higher pressures and resultant overspray.
I can't believe someone won't pick up that line. Talk about changes in model
railroading. What's going to disappear next?
Brian Jackson
Springfield, IL
Fw: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
- Original Message -
From: John
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
We will. The people who create.
Not the dirtyhedge funds who only know how to chase a dollar irregardless of
where it comes from, or for what reason.
IF ANY
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Brian Jackson
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
That is really bad news as I rely on Floquil for 80 percent of what I do and
Scalecoat for the rest. I do not want to switch to acrylics. Been there, done
that, got the crappy tee shirt, and swore never again to gum up my internal mix
airbrushes or deal with the higher pressures and resultant overspray.
I can't believe someone won't pick up that line. Talk about changes in model
railroading. What's going to disappear next?
Brian Jackson
Springfield, IL
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
- Original Message -
From: John
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: Fw: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
- Original Message -
From: John
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
We will. The people who create.
Not the dirtyhedge funds who only know how to chase a dollar irregardless of
where it comes from, or for what reason.
IF ANY
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Brian Jackson
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Floquil
That is really bad news as I rely on Floquil for 80 percent of what I do
and Scalecoat for the rest. I do not want to switch to acrylics. Been there,
done that, got the crappy tee shirt, and swore never again to gum up my
internal mix airbrushes or deal with the higher pressures and resultant
overspray.
I can't believe someone won't pick up that line. Talk about changes in
model railroading. What's going to disappear next?
Brian Jackson
Springfield, IL
Re: {S-Scale List} FNF - May 17, 2013
You should model trucks and buses
They would not leave any tracks for your wife to find.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} FNF - May 17, 2013
Well, this FNF doesn't start on the happiest of notes. It all started on
Friday afternoon when a LARGE box from UPS appeared on the front porch, and my
wife, always on the alert for what I might be spending my money on, asked,
What did you order, NOW?
Well, long story short, I thought I had bought an On30 4-6-0 from Ebay, but
what emerged from the box as I pawed through the packing was the most beautiful
4-6-0 I have ever seen, but in G scale, and did I mention that it was LARGE!
As I am prone to do on occasion, I hadn't read the description close enough
to realize I was bidding on a G scale model, rather than On30, and needless to
say, the better half was not impressed. That's nothing but a TOY! was her
immediate impression. Myself, I like the engine, and was about ready to sell
off my S scale and go into G, but my better senses, and my desire to keep my
marriage intact, I let that impulse pass. Today, it sits above my computer in
its resplendent glory, a constant reminder of what almost was, where my wife
can't see at it and remind me of my major Ebay misadventure.
That being said, it is a beautiful locomotive, and I'll have to see if I can
find a G scale layout in the vicinity to see it run. In the meantime, if
somebody would like to have it, sight unseen and untested as to running
quality, I'll take $100.00 for it, plus shipping. While the seller did an
excellent job of packing it, I believe I can do as well for a lot less. Contact
me offline if you're interested, and save me from going off my wacky completely
and executing an excursion into G scale.
Time to leave for the meeting, so I'll take this up again later.
boB Nicholson __
Re: {S-Scale List} Was:Re: MicroPrep
Use a finer thread, they break quicker.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: s-scale-ow...@yahoogroups.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:27 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Was:Re: MicroPrep
All;
This thread has gone way off the basis of this list.
You all know better.
Please move on to S scale train modeling.
Thank you
Jeff Sankus
S list moderator
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed Loizeaux@... wrote:
parcel post is basically surface or truck, that indicates the hazardous
nature of the product, if that is the only transportation means available
mel perry
From the USPS web site:
Many household items can't go in the mail.
Restricted materials come in a wide variety of forms and can be chemical,
biological, radioactive, or a combination of factors.
Many common household and consumer products cannot be mailed through the US
Postal Service�. These materials may not be dangerous on your shelf at home,
but they may become a hazard when shaken or when exposed to temperature or
pressure changes. Additional rules and restrictions apply for items being
mailed internationally.
Examples of household products that may be mailable but have specific
restrictions�
Aerosols
Lithium Batteries
Nail Polish
Perfumes containing alcohol
Pool Chemicals
Paints
Matches
Certain Glues
Examples of non-mailable items�
Air bags
Ammunition
Explosives
Gasoline
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Just trying to keep things in perspective..Ed Loizeaux
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: MicroPrep
Want to bet?
JA
- Original Message -
From: Jamie Bothwell
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: MicroPrep
Ed,
You forgot beer! Can't mail that either. :~(
Jamie
On May 19, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Ed loize...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
parcel post is basically surface or truck, that indicates the hazardous
nature of the product, if that is the only transportation means available
mel perry
From the USPS web site:
Many household items can't go in the mail.
Restricted materials come in a wide variety of forms and can be chemical,
biological, radioactive, or a combination of factors.
Many common household and consumer products cannot be mailed through the US
Postal Service®. These materials may not be dangerous on your shelf at home,
but they may become a hazard when shaken or when exposed to temperature or
pressure changes. Additional rules and restrictions apply for items being
mailed internationally.
Examples of household products that may be mailable but have specific
restrictions…
Aerosols
Lithium Batteries
Nail Polish
Perfumes containing alcohol
Pool Chemicals
Paints
Matches
Certain Glues
Examples of non-mailable items…
Air bags
Ammunition
Explosives
Gasoline
Browse Domestic Mail Manual (DMM®) 601.10: Hazardous Materials ›
Browse Publication 52 -- Hazardous, Restricted, and Perishable Mail ›
Just trying to keep things in perspective..Ed Loizeaux
{S-Scale List} Prototype for AF caboose
List, Is there a prototype for the AF cupola/bay window caboose? Thank you. John Claudino On May 15, 2013, at 6:18 PM, shabbona_rr wrote: Scenery Unlimited has (or did have) a Santa Fe caboose kit that might make a good starting point. boB Nicholson --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Tom Hawley t.hawley@... wrote: - Original Message - From: Bud Rindfleisch At the recent Spring Spree, there was a nice kitbash of a Wabash steel caboose using the streamlined Am Flyer cupola from their bay window caboose.. . . . . . . .Did anyone else see this?. . . . . . . Yes Know where there would be scale plans for these cars? A friend of mine has made a bunch of them, using the roof from the AF cupola bay-winow caboose and everything but the roof from the Industrial Rail caboose. No scale plans were used that I know of, but of course he did refer closely to photos of Wabash Ann Arbor cabooses. The IR caboose itself came in 3 paint schemes and was a good starting point for S scale ATSF and BN cabooses. The Chessie-painted version ws pure foobie, as far as I could learn. Both caboose bodies are still around and can be found. Tom Hawley -- Lansing Michigan
Re: {S-Scale List} BO EL-3 Project
Love your layout and coverage of the BCG.
One of these days (if I last -at 91) I will send a couple of photos I took down
there years ago.
Do you need any tread material. Can cut some off from what I have. Some brass,
some nickle silver.
Free to you.
John Armstrong, Kirtland Ohio
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From: Brooks Stover
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} BO EL-3 Project [3 Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from Brooks Stover included below]
I recently saw one of the new Lionel 2-8-8-2s in operation on a nearby S
layout. It a beautiful looking and smooth running engine...a great addition to
S, especially since SSLS will convert them to scale for those who desire. I
had to have one! A little research revealed that the BO had several classes
of 2-8-8-0s that were dimensionally very close to the Lionel model, certainly
close enough for my modeling style. I am currently modifying one of the Lionel
engines to represent BO #7138, an example of a EL-3 class 2-8-8-0. Several of
the appliances on the engine will have to be relocated, but the biggest
challenge is that the BO engines had Vanderbilt tenders. Back in Sept/Oct
1981, S GAUGIAN ran an issue devoted to BO steam. The issue includes a scale
drawing of a similar EL-5, including the tender. I've gotten a good start on
the tender and have attached a couple of photos. In the photos the brass I
beam is simply resting on the wheels and will, of course, be tucked up to the
tank and attached to the end bolsters. The water hatch (from SSLL) and part
of the cat walk are also just temporarily in place in this photo. The trucks
are from AM, the cast steps from SSLL and the ladders are Lionel replacement
parts for the Y . I am going to apply Archer rivet decals. I'm still working
out how to integrate the big engine into the operating scheme on my BCG
layout, but I'll come up with some way to share this engine with my operating
crews. Maybe the BCG leased it for a few months to test the feasibility! I
can post additional photos as work progresses if there is interest. My plan is
to enter the engine for judging at the NMRA North Central Regional Convention
to be held here in Detroit this fall. Many thanks to Ed Kirkstatter and Phil
Bonzon, both expert BO modelers who have helped me with information and
suggestions.
{S-Scale List} Re: Inexpensive structures
I found the right link and ordered one on-line (downloaded a PDF).
You will need to increase the size of the print by 118% for S scale. It took a
big of trial and error, but in my printer (a HP Photosmart C7280), I had to do
the following:
1. Do the normal print commands, but additionally
2. Select page setup
3. Select Poster under the page sizing and handling
4. Enter 118 in the tile scale box
Your printer may vary.
What I got printed out on two pages (could have been one page if I had longer
paper). But this shouldn't be a problem, I'll just cut off the white margin on
the edge of both pages.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Jim Cheryl Martin themartins@... wrote:
Good sleuthing Scott. Their site isn't very user friendly...at least not their
home page. I have since discovered that if you click on the big blue arrow
between the two photographs at the top left of the home page it takes you into
their catalog. Websites shouldn't need a secret decoder ring. However I
think
some of us may find the product worth the hassle. I may order one and give
it a
try.
Cheers
Jim
On May 9, 2013 at 3:22 AM Scott Huston steamtramper@... wrote:
True, for some reason the link doesn't work. however if you google
modelrailroadlayoutandscenery it brings up the site in your search list
which
takes you right to it. This is definitely a neat link for paper structure
enthusiasts.
Nice find Jim.
Scott Huston LV Nevada
-
From: Jim Cheryl Martin themartins@...
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:42 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Inexpensive structures
Hi Guys.
While surfing the web I found a URL for a company and a line of
S-scale
structures that I personally was unaware of.
http://modelrailroadlayoutandscenery.com/
offers a large line of downloadable paper structures. Many are
weathered and loaded with character The cost is reasonable, about ten
bucks per, and once you pay up you are allowed as many printouts as you
want. That would be real handy if you want to layer any of the doors,
windows etc. for a 3-D effect. According to the web site, these are all
printable in S scale.They have grain elevators, stations, diners, shacks,
factories, etc. You can get a bundle of four different houses for just 25
dollars. Check it out.
Jim Martin
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Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Thinning my roster
boB, we can lease you EMD power should the need arise. Ol' Ben Mine #1 rosters a beat up ex RI RS3, which, with a little extra weatering help, is barely recognizable. 30 years on the mine has taken its toll. Sure has been fun! John Albee Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2013, at 10:49 AM, shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net wrote: As a matter of information, SHABBONA RR GP-9 #42 has also gone to a new owner. That means that SHABBONA is now an ALCO road (Do I see Andre grinning?) with the exception of an EMD SW-1 (the Humongous Co. plant switcher) and two FP-7's for passenger duty. boB Nicholson _ --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@... wrote: I have come to the conclusion that I have an overabundance of locomotives on SHABBONA RR. That being the case, I am considering selling the set of F7's, 19L-19A 19B. If aoomeone wants to giveme $135.00 apiece for them, contact me offline. Also, another set of AB F-units, #'s 09, 15A, 18L. Both sets of units were the subject of S Gaugian articles back in the mid to late 1980's. The 09 set is made from Wabash Valley shells with modifications to the 09 to make it resemble an F2 or F3, while the other two units are detailed with brass fittings. I would take $100 apiece for them. All units are powered with American Models power units. boB Nicholson
{S-Scale List} NASG Ballot
Hi Folks Got my NASG ballot today, It 's in the mail, Good Luck Bill W. John Foley
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Cinder Conveyor in S etched brass kit
Hi Chris.
Looks like a neat kid.
Put me down for one.
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net
To: S-Scale S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:58:53 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Cinder Conveyor in S etched brass kit
Nothing new, but great to see it coming back. I built five brass locomotives in
the late 1970-early 1980's from Locomotive Workshop kits. They weren't much,
but all that was available.
boB Nicholson _
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com , JC vannessco@... wrote:
Congrats to Colin for kicking off the concept of etched brass diesel models
-- I'm in. It can be done: look in the Rooney Bin Files section for NKP 239 a
Locomotive Workshop model from the 1980's.
Speaking of etchings, I have a surprise for all of you who are wading in
un-removed cinders in the roundhouse area.
Alkem Models is willing to consider producing their cinder conveyor in S. Go
here for an excellent description including instructions for the HO kit.
http://alkemscalemodels.net/ASMMain/HOCinderConveyor.html
Price point should be at or below $100 per kit which will try to include
shipping and handling. I need 9 more orders to get this moving.
Please contact me off list.
Chris Rooney
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: There's a prototype for everything!
HASor HAVE
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: richgajnak
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:47 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: There's a prototype for everything!
Hmmm.
Lionel's not the only one to get things backwards... (They has the nose
stripes and pony backwards on their O Gauge NS Genset)
Rich G(ajnak)
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Jim Kindraka raisinone@... wrote:
This is for all you hot shots who like to argue about correct paint
schemes...
We'll see who gets it! (GRIN)
Jim Kindraka
Plymouth, WI
http://lionelllc.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ettx909823.jpg
Re: {S-Scale List} Plastruct
Plastruct was the prime supplier for years for industrial models, mainly
refineries and chemical plants.
These were monster sized models.
Knew them well the period I was a member of the American Engineering Model
Society. Their yearly Conventions were real affairs. They also supplied
architects with many parts. Very generous at the convention. Plastruct steel
shapes were stylized for industrial models.. Evergreen fortunately came along
with the best ever produced
Membership was from the biggest constructon companies in the world.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:30 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Plastruct
I was poking around looking for some clear acrylic sheet when Plastruct came
up. http://www.plastruct.com/picat/Vol_9_Complete_9.pdf
I never realized all the stuff they have. They must have embraced the
commercial model structure building market. The catalog just keeps going!
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} They're all toys.
All model railways are toys for big boys. We just like our toys to be more
realistic than some other folks but they are still toys.
John
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Alan Lambert alanlambert64@... wrote:
From: Alan Lambert
         Fort Worth, Texas
Bill,
Take one more look at it. There are a lot of people that make scale models of
everything and play with them. Model airplanes come into mind and they are
not toys. They fly just like the real thing. NOW CAN WE ALL GET OFF OF THIS
TOY THING. Sorry for shouting but I wanted to be heard.
             Alan Lambert
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From: scale S only scalesonly@...
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} They're all toys.
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What do they do with it? You had better not say play...
Bill Winans
--
Bill,
that boat is not a TOY, It is a SCALE model of the real thing. It is not
made out of tin plate like toy trains were made of. Now there is something
to contemplate. Tin plate compared to what we now have. Toy verses scale
model.
Alan Lambert
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Re: {S-Scale List} What I need to remember
Good points. I finaly figured out what primed my train interest.
Back when i was around 4 my father came back from a trip to the Chicago area.
He traveled as a mechanical engineer fo Jeffrey Mfg.
He always found something for me, and my brother (2 years older). I do not
remember what he got for my brother.
I was given a little train made of a yellow dyed wood, and what I recall as
little etched metal wheels. A loco and 3 cars. This was a super gift to me at
that time. I still picture that night. We had often been at the Columbus
Union Station either meeting my father after a trip, or sending him off on
another. Or, having dinner at the Merkle restaurant. The best in Columbus.
The best part though was going out on the upper level platform under the big
train shed roof, and watching the many trains. There was plenty of smoke, as
well as trains. PRR, NYC, Big 4, TOC, BO, HV, NW, They all looked alike
then, but so what, THEY WERE TRAINS.
My little train set lasted, I recall, about 6 months, when my brother stomped
it into the floor. He often did things like this and still has that attitude
at 93.
How did your family treat your toys?He never nailed my Erector set for a
steam shovel, as he had the airplane set.
I still have that set. I think I will take it with me to a nursing home some
day. Did Erector ever have a loco set?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:53 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} What I need to remember
Alan,
What I need to remember is the choice, I made 35 of my 50 years ago, a
conscious decision to leave toy trains behind in pursuit of Scale model
railroading to the continually advancing highest accuracy level my modeling
skills will allow. I believe that is what most of us here agree on. I never had
any of these accessories when I was in American Flyer so I am not really
missing anything. For sure I am not yearning to get them now. That yearning is
reserved for a 1969 Mach 1 I am not likely to EVER get!
I see Scale model railroading and operating toy train accessories as 2
different worlds and for me they never meet. There is the massive automated
German train and airplane displays but they too are worlds apart from the
Seaboard Coal Loader! You have somehow likened yourself to Brooks Stover.
Brooks has NO AF accessories on his layout! So waving the AF and Hi Rail are
great flag on THIS list might not be the proper place.
If anything what Lionel and MTH did by making these toy train accessories
again is kill the collectors market for the original rare mint items. If I
were into that aspect I think it would really annoy me. The new items made from
Broadway Limited absolutely has affected the brass market.
So NO, I don't have to remember, or be happy that both new catalogs are
portraying the brand new S Scale Today trains as toys that are always made to
and continually promoted be compatible with 60 years old trains like that is
ALL that matters. Not everyone wants to live in 1955 again. I would be negative
7 so that would be impossible for me!
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} MTH scale wheels included?
Hi Bill
The mention about the scale wheels for the F-3 is in the gray area under
features on page 2
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 5:20:31 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} MTH scale wheels included?
My point is… if SHS could do it from day 1 why could not MTH include scale
wheels in the box? At least for freight cars I am more than a little sure the
net cost would NOT be $2.00 per car. Even if the scale wheels cost more you
amortize the production costs across all cars. I don’t see any reference on how
to get or including scale wheels for the locomotives.
Part of me thinks the “game” of it all is to see how many scale wheels get sold
to judge the scale market. If it is bleak in a year from now that further
justifies not catering to us Scalers.
I am hitting up my hi rail friends to get their stash of scale wheels!
And.. here is the Broadway Limited website. http://www.broadway-limited.com/ I
would love for S to aspire to their products and catalog of items released.
LOTS of PRR stuff! When the I1 was released I had my first bout of HO envy
since switching to S and almost bought 1.
Show me ONE Gabe the baggage smasher loader unloader cattle sawmill bubbling
beer bottle filler recycler accessory in the BLI catalog. It can’t be done! If
you want to be taken seriously you have to present yourself in that manner. MTH
has installed possibly the best electronics package ever made in the highly
detailed and prototypically correct S Scale loco so it can back a car up to a
remake of a 60 year old toy train accessory. Is that not a clash of
philosophies? If that is not enough Lionel and MTH are both making them. I
would rather see a brand new freight car!
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} MTH scale wheels included?
Bill
make that page 4
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: JOHN FOLEY fole...@comcast.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 5:48:07 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} MTH scale wheels included?
Hi Bill
The mention about the scale wheels for the F-3 is in the gray area under
features on page 2
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 5:20:31 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} MTH scale wheels included?
My point is… if SHS could do it from day 1 why could not MTH include scale
wheels in the box? At least for freight cars I am more than a little sure the
net cost would NOT be $2.00 per car. Even if the scale wheels cost more you
amortize the production costs across all cars. I don’t see any reference on how
to get or including scale wheels for the locomotives.
Part of me thinks the “game” of it all is to see how many scale wheels get sold
to judge the scale market. If it is bleak in a year from now that further
justifies not catering to us Scalers.
I am hitting up my hi rail friends to get their stash of scale wheels!
And.. here is the Broadway Limited website. http://www.broadway-limited.com/ I
would love for S to aspire to their products and catalog of items released.
LOTS of PRR stuff! When the I1 was released I had my first bout of HO envy
since switching to S and almost bought 1.
Show me ONE Gabe the baggage smasher loader unloader cattle sawmill bubbling
beer bottle filler recycler accessory in the BLI catalog. It can’t be done! If
you want to be taken seriously you have to present yourself in that manner. MTH
has installed possibly the best electronics package ever made in the highly
detailed and prototypically correct S Scale loco so it can back a car up to a
remake of a 60 year old toy train accessory. Is that not a clash of
philosophies? If that is not enough Lionel and MTH are both making them. I
would rather see a brand new freight car!
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: 2013 MTH S Scale Catalog Online
David, Thank you for the link. John Claudino On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:41 AM, David wrote: --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, richgajnak rustytraque@... wrote: http://www.mthtrains.com/sites/default/files/catalog_files/2013_sgauge/index.html Dummy F3s for those who don't want the MTH cheese. Nice to see the kadee clone couplers and most of the freight car trucks (no National B-1s) listed. David Thompson
{S-Scale List} : MTH Scale
- Forwarded Message - From: JOHN FOLEY fole...@comcast.net To: S-Scale S-Scale@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:18:49 PM Subject: MTH Scale Hi Folks If I am reading the new MTH S catalog correct the loco's come with the scale wheel sets, but the freight cars don't. You have to buy them separately at 12.95. With the cars being 59.95 that's about $73.00 per car. Check out page 1. John Foley
Re: {S-Scale List} Bill Fuhrman
Stan Thanks for letting us know about Bill. It was a privilege to call Bill my
friend, I met him about 25 years or so ago at one of the very early meetings
of the Connecticut S Gaugers. Bill was always a quiet gentleman who was happy
to share his American Flyer knowledge with club members
and the public at the many trains shows He and the club attended with their
layout. Bill worked very hard with us on the 2001 Steamtown convention.
Bill I hope you Run into Bill Krause up there and start a new S Scale club.
John Foley
- Original Message -
From: ssc...@bestweb.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:41:50 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Bill Fuhrman
From the Connecticut S Gaugers-
It is our sad duty to inform you of the passing of Bill Fuhrman, our long time
member and club President for many years.
Bill had been in poor health recently, and passed away on April 12th.
There will be no wake or funeral. All arrangements will be family only.
You may send a condolence card to Bill's wife:
Carol Fuhrman
174 Lakes Road
Bethlehem, CT 06751
For those wishing to send flowers, etc., in memory of Bill, the family has
requested instead that donations be made to:
Bethlehem Ambulance Association, Inc.
P.O. Box 401
Bethlehem, CT 06751
--Stan Stokrocki
Re: {S-Scale List} New Reefer Kit
What kit is this?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: cnr3304
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} New Reefer Kit
Hi All,
I have been getting some questions about the prototypes.
Part of my message did not get included. This should help people decide as to
which kit would work for them.
These are the prototypes that the kit releases will cover. Series One of
course is already out. Series Two - Four is next. All things are in place to do
each Series mentionned but we will be only producing one block of Series at a
time which has the same overall parts.
Series One - built 1939 - 1940, Square Cornered Dreadnaught Ends delivered in
Mineral Brown, most likely all repainted into the Grey with Red lettering by
1950. Some may have received the Red Leaf, most the Green Leaf. Numbers 209500
- 209599
Series Two - built 1-5/1942, 'W' Cornered Dreadnaught Ends delivered in
Mineral Brown, most likely all repainted into the Grey with Red lettering by
1950. Some may have received the Red Leaf, most the Green Leaf. Numbers 209600
- 209699
Series Three - built 8-10/1943, 'W' Cornered Dreadnaught Ends, Universal
Brake Wheel, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with the Red Maple Leaf,
Angled Wafer. The Green Leaf would have been applied to most by the 1950's.
Numbers 209700 - 209799
Series Four - built 10/1944 - 7/1945, 'W' Cornered Dreadnaught Ends,
Universal Brake Wheel, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with the Red
Maple Leaf, Angled Wafer. The Green Leaf would have been applied to most by the
1950's. Numbers 209800 - 20 (Pretty much the same as Series Three.)
Series Five - built 11/1946 - 8/1947, Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Ajax Brake
Wheel, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with the Green Maple Leaf,
Angled Wafer. Numbers 21 - 210299
Series Six - built 8/1948 - 3/1949, Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Ajax Brake
Wheel, Steel Mesh Running Boards, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with
the Green Maple Leaf, Angled Wafer. Numbers 210300 - 210599 (Pretty much the
same as Series Five)
Express Reefer Series 2E - built 6-8/1948, Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Ajax
Brake Wheel, Steel Mesh Running Boards, delivered in the Green Scheme. Numbers
10500 - 10549
Many of these reefers were subjected to different shoppings and
improvements/repairs in their history. There are enough brass etchings to allow
for these, like over the door repair patches (two styles), steel mesh running
boards and Universal Brake wheels.
Thanks for your time, support and questions.
cheers,
Andy Malette
Re: {S-Scale List} New Reefer Kit
My lack of guns that can shoot all the way to Caforlonia is O
Maybe its a chicken reefer For hatching chickens.
I vaguely recall something , way back, of an unusual car. As it is everything
is vague anymore (at 91), diesl smoke I think, No smoking AF motors though.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Ed
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} New Reefer Kit
What kit is this?
John Armstrong
Sir John.
Obviously, the message pertains to the new reefer kit as mentioned in the
subject line. This, of course, is in contrast to the old reefer kit which has
never been mentioned in the first place.
To take it a bit farther, it has eight hatches which means you get twice as
much for your money. Of course, the hatches are not meant for blocks of ice,
but that is another story for another time.
Given that maple leafs will be plastered on the sides, one might assume it is
for the CN or CP or Newfoundland RR or something else up north. But it is cold
up there and so why do they need reefers in the first place?
No price, no contact information, no company name, no photos, no mention of
decals, trucks, couplers, etc. -- not much of anything descriptive of the
product itself. Is it metal as in brass import? Is it plastic as in injection
molded? Or plastic as in cast resin? Is it wood as in birch? Or is it a mix of
all things good and plentiful?
I love these cottage industry folks who dribble out information bit by bit. I
think it is done just to tease us and make us drool even more. Time to hire a
new copywriter. Check out the babes on Mad Men for some candidates.
(Chuckles...)
Now before friend Andy gets mad at me (a genuine paying customer), I will say
that if you were lucky enough to read all the past messages about this new kit,
you would be in the know. But, if you missed a day two of conversation, you'd
be inclined to wonder what this is all about. Looks like some reading of the
archives will bring you up to date.
Andhope springs eternalmaybe new product announcements could, in the
future, include ALL the pertinent information useful to a consumer in one swell
foop.
Just a wish. Not a complaint. Just teasing a bit here. Making fun to make a
point. Good humor intended. Don't shoot the messenger.
CheersEd Loizeaux
PS: I cannot wait to see what the angled wafer looks like. Those just gotta
be really cool! The only wafer I know about usually comes with cheese and a
glass of wine. Those wafers are always perfectly flat.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, John armstong5717@... wrote:
What kit is this?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: cnr3304
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} New Reefer Kit
Hi All,
I have been getting some questions about the prototypes.
Part of my message did not get included. This should help people decide as
to which kit would work for them.
These are the prototypes that the kit releases will cover. Series One of
course is already out. Series Two - Four is next. All things are in place to do
each Series mentionned but we will be only producing one block of Series at a
time which has the same overall parts.
Series One - built 1939 - 1940, Square Cornered Dreadnaught Ends delivered
in Mineral Brown, most likely all repainted into the Grey with Red lettering by
1950. Some may have received the Red Leaf, most the Green Leaf. Numbers 209500
- 209599
Series Two - built 1-5/1942, 'W' Cornered Dreadnaught Ends delivered in
Mineral Brown, most likely all repainted into the Grey with Red lettering by
1950. Some may have received the Red Leaf, most the Green Leaf. Numbers 209600
- 209699
Series Three - built 8-10/1943, 'W' Cornered Dreadnaught Ends, Universal
Brake Wheel, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with the Red Maple Leaf,
Angled Wafer. The Green Leaf would have been applied to most by the 1950's.
Numbers 209700 - 209799
Series Four - built 10/1944 - 7/1945, 'W' Cornered Dreadnaught Ends,
Universal Brake Wheel, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with the Red
Maple Leaf, Angled Wafer. The Green Leaf would have been applied to most by the
1950's. Numbers 209800 - 20 (Pretty much the same as Series Three.)
Series Five - built 11/1946 - 8/1947, Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Ajax Brake
Wheel, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with the Green Maple Leaf,
Angled Wafer. Numbers 21 - 210299
Series Six - built 8/1948 - 3/1949, Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Ajax Brake
Wheel, Steel Mesh Running Boards, delivered in the Grey with Red lettering with
the Green Maple Leaf, Angled Wafer. Numbers 210300 - 210599 (Pretty much the
same as Series Five)
Express Reefer Series 2E - built 6-8/1948, Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Ajax
Re: {S-Scale List} Those Canadien Guys
I have 2 of those in N gauge.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Tom Hawley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Those Canadien Guys
- Original Message -
From: Alex Binkley
. . . . . . Not sure which style of hopper CN painted in the Lifesaver
scheme but there was only one and it didn't last all that long.. . . . . . .
.
Read about it at
http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cn370708o=cn
tom Hawley - Lansing Mich
{S-Scale List} Track Cleaners Scale/High Rail.
Part Number TS1170 Description: A hard anodized aluminum chassis holds one roller and a magnet. Comes with your choice of a Cratex® roller or a canvas covered roller. The magnet picks up loose magnetic objects that are lying on the track. It will retrieve stray springs, nuts, bolts, coupler trips pins, track spikes and other items not wanted on your layout. Cleaning mechanism is housed in a S-Helper Service® PS2 two-bay covered hopper. For more details go to www.aztectrains.com Thank you. John Claudino
Re: {S-Scale List} Sn42: [Nfld_Rwy] 3 Foot 6: The Narrow Gauge Trains of New Zealand (OT)
I got to ride the greater part of the NZ Rys North Island lines in 1943
(courtesy USMC) in 1943. Cool is'nt quite the word. Treasure is better.
Recently sold off the NZ kits I always hoped to build. Would like to have seen
the Newfoundland system but never got east of all the Montreal Quebec
electrics..
I wonder about the Rimatucka restoration. They have 1 loco, grants and rights
of way. It's on the internet
Try and find a section of the Nfd. lines, restore it, get a car, and some
people who like to work on weekends (for nothing)
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cheryl Martin
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Sn42: [Nfld_Rwy] 3 Foot 6: The Narrow Gauge
Trains of New Zealand (OT)
Hi Geoff.
I don' t think you're off topic at all, not when we're talking Sn42. I've
had the good fortune to railfan and ride the NZ railway and I think the whole
system is way cool. I could easily tip into modelling NZ railways given half a
chance. My Canadian government was extremely short sighted in allowing the
whole Newfoundland system to get torn up. That island province is now a
tourist hot spot, and a narrow gauge tourist railway would now be a major
asset. I guess there's still enough stuff around if they wanted to dust off
some old roadbeds, but how much cheaper it would have been simply to leave some
of it to wait for the tourist dollars. We seem particularly adept at dropping
the ball up here.
Cheers
Jim Martin
On April 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM dmunse...@comcast.net wrote:
3' 6 ops in NZ. Enjoy!
fmg: aka Don Munsey, Jr.
-Original Message-
From: Geoff B
To: Nfld Rwy
Sent: April 10, 2013 8:00 PM
Subject: [Nfld_Rwy] 3 Foot 6: The Narrow Gauge Trains of New Zealand (OT)
Forgive the off-topic post, but I thought some members may be interested in
this video, being a 3'6 gauge island railway network that managed to survive
the onslaught from the trucking industry in the 1980's. It could have so easily
gone the way of the Newfoundland network, but as of 2013 is doing quite well.
Not so much passenger-wise, but there's good freight growth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiAU1Sl9Ic
Regards,
Geoff.
Shortcut URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nfld_Rwy/Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: {S-Scale List} Thanks for prayers and understanding; see below!
If you could use an overaged Corpsman I'm available. I have almosr every knife
blade made, plus All the Dremel cutters and grinders.
Take care, and leave the nurses alone.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bob McCarthy
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:27 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Thanks for prayers and understanding; see below!
Good evening!
Thanks for all the understanding and good wishes!
My operation today only solved part of my problem, so I will be having
additional work and more time here in the hospital than originally thought.
My wife will be shipping orders outstanding tomorrow and sending some
refunds to those due them.
Appreciate all the prayers that have been sent.
Hard to keep a MARINE down for long!
Bob
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From: adguytrains robert_ho...@bellsouth.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Fw: The Supply Car is moving ownership
Guys
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but the details have not been finalized
yet. I'll keep you all (being in Georgia, I probably need to say Y'alls)
informed. Please contact Bob M (per his email) and work with him on all past
orders you may have outstanding.
Bob's hospitalization is not life threatening and he should be out in 2-3
days. He IS looking at a change of life and living location, hence the transfer
of The Supply Car. We will miss Bob in S scale as his heart has always been in
the right place.
Please bear with us for a week or so as we get the details taken care of. The
passenger car kits and underbody detail parts will continue on and we will see
how we can best deal with actually producing and expanding the the freight car
kit line.
Bob Hogan
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, scale S only scalesonly@... wrote:
Hi guys --
A direct to me (and others) email from Bob McCarthy. The salient comments
are below †the rest edited out.
Sorry to hear about Bob McC.’s ongoing health issues †he has been
battling them for as long as I have known him (more than 10 years). Bob Hogan
will be an excellent new manager for the business, and if things go well, I am
sure we will all get our stuff and more will be coming.
Best wishes to all,
Bill Winans
---
From: Bob McCarthy
Subject: The Supply Car is moving ownership
Am sorry about all the delays, but I am in the hospital and do not know
when I will be out.
Bob Hogan is taking over THE SUPPLY CAR, because it will be run better
without me given my challenges physically and mentally at this time.
Sorry,
Bob
Re: {S-Scale List} Tom Boldt and Hospice Care
NO ONE is compaining. Just sad, especialy if you knew him well.
Ever sit on a battlefield and watch a friend die..??
You still rember it, in detail, 70 years later.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cheryl Martin
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Tom Boldt and Hospice Care
How nice that Tom Boldt's death bed is being used as a complaints department.
Jim Martin
On April 9, 2013 at 12:45 PM clipper...@att.net clipper...@att.net
wrote:
bob:
how about the kits, and parts, that we ordered and paid for, over a year
ago?
mel perry
On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Bob McCarthy wrote:
Good morning!
Having read this thread and based upon my experience with Lutheran
Hospice care here in South Carolina it is important to remember several things
about those who are passing from this life.
1) If they can have and want visitors, it is very useful to them to
have them. Even though we many feel pain and upset from their condition,
remember they are still there inside their damaged bodies. A smiling face,
squeeze of the hand, or the blink of an eye to acknowledge you may be all they
can do, but it means a lot to most patients.
2) We all will join Tom. It is hard on those of us living our lives
to see a friend or just some one we have known waste away. Just think of them
if it were you. It is better to suffer some minor mental discomfort than to
leave them totally alone to die.
3) Once a patient has accepted the forthcoming fact of death and
enetered into acceptence, then having people they know visit can make their
last months and days up lifting and pass with peace.
Just my thoughts,
Bob McCarthy
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From: shabbona_rr user141...@mediacombb.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Tom Boldt
Thanks for the update on Tom Boldt, Gary. I knew him about as long as you
, at least from the early eighties, when we made a trip to his home in Orchard
Park, NY, to dismantle his layout and bring it to Cleveland so we could have an
operating layout at the NASG convention in 1982.
In 1984, at his urging, I was conscripted to fill out the names on the
winner certificates of the various model contests because of my exquisite
penmanship; as Tom put it, it was so exquisite he couldn't read it!
Ah, yes, fun times with fun friends. I miss those days, and Tom as well.
boB Nicholson
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, grchud chudgr@... wrote:
Group,
Many of you have known Tom Boldt and are aware of his serious
condition! For those that don’t, Tom was a premier painter of brass models
some years back. His main interest was scale S and I became aware of his
illness, Lou Gehrig’s disease about five years ago. He resides at a VA Home
in Sandusky, Ohio, about thirty five miles from my home. I had previously
visited him about nine to twelve months ago and left his bedside in a very
depressed state. I have know Tom since 1985, when I first became interested in
scale S. He painted my first brass purchase, a NYC 19000 series caboose that I
bought from Walt Danylak, and many more items since. As a matter of fact, Walt
introduced me to Tom. We became good friends and shared an interest in similar
roads. Because of his interest in painting, he was very knowledgeable of
various road paint schemes!
In the nineties, Tom had a run of bad luck, holding jobs for only a
short duration for various reasons. At different times, he had been employed by
Omnicon and American Models after moving west from New York. He also had
family/marital problems that weighted heavily on him! Tom began showing signs
of stress and his health began deteriorating, at my best recollection, about
ten years ago. His family was not sure if his condition was a result of
painting so many models, or his exposure to agent orange while serving his
country in Viet Nam during the 1960’s.
At any rate, my visit was not a pleasant experience, but I wanted to
find out if he was still with us. His condition is terminal and it was very
difficult standing near his side for the short period I visited him. The nurse
asked him if he recognized me and the only way she could get and
acknowledgement was to tell him to blink his eyes. He was able to do that, but
communication is impossible! I left the VA more depressed than my previous
visit and doubt I will return.
I can only tell you he is still among the living, but his condition is
ever
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Tom Boldt and Hospice Care
Send me a drawing or photo or sketch showing just what you need. Seeing your
connection with Tom makes what you need FREE if I have it. There are varieties
in my stock.. I bought RR material besides all the materials for architectural
models (about 140 all told 82 in FORTUNE the rest all over)
I am house downsizing in order to move. All but S traction GOES.
John Armstrong 7451 Euclid Chardon Rd. Kirtland Ohio 44094 440-256-1317
Usualy here
(at 91)
I know what he went thru in the service , and it's long time effect on him (and
others) via being a Medic with the Marines) JA
- Original Message -
From: Bud Rindfleisch
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:51 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Tom Boldt and Hospice Care
Gary, Thanks for the update on Tom's status.
Tom Boldt has been a good friend of mine for many years, We first
corresponded when he wrote me a letter from California (obtaining my address
from the NSAG directory I might add) saying he was recently discharged from the
Army and a recent first time Dad. He and his young wife and new son were moving
back to Western New York and he had planned to build a layout based on the BO
(former BRP) out of Buffalo. He wanted to meet me and we set up a day to get
our families together and talk S scale.
We remained friends over the years while he still lived in the area and we
even worked together at his landscaping business, a spin off of his Dad's
Evergreen Farm and Nursery. I was out of work at the time due to one of many
layoffs from the railroad and Tom was kind enough to give me work to keep the
wolves at bay. One job we did (with two other furloughed guys, one a railroader
and the other a trucker)was installing over 150 full size railroad ties in a
retaining wall and stairway, what a job, all muscle, sweat, and grunts!
Tom at some point decided to get into custom painting and later added custom
detailing. His early efforts however caused him some health issues when he had
ingested paint overspray through the skin in his hands and wrists. Rubber
gloves were never given a thought as he used a paint booth and mask. A lesson
learned the hard way!
I acquired from Tom a started project for an Erie RR 250 ton heavy duty
depressed flat from two pieces of AF depressed die cast flats. He felt he would
never get around to doing the the final assembly so gave it to me. I since came
across a couple good photos of the prototype on the website FallenFlags.org. It
is for this car I need the metal walkway material similar or the same as Bill
Lane is searching for. The walkways on the Erie flat are for the end platforms
which are separate from the main car and are above the pedestal span bolster. I
have added two pics to the photos section as erie7295bdb and erie7295ddb. The
first pic somewhat shows an overhead view of the expanded metal material on the
end platforms.
Bud Rindfleisch
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Suburban and Catalogs
How do you get square driver tires on round wheels?
I will be 91 in 2 weeks. Bought my first real loco S kit from Carpenter after
fiddling with CD kits from their first month
Unfortunately Carpenter had put the wrong loco frame in the kit . I found out
after hours of filing.. That sort of delayed my earliest S Guaging for a
while.
I later had some scratch built Erie locos built by Karl Parshall of Columbus.
I always wondered where they went after I went into the service. I was told
one went to a DR in Seattle. Has anyone ever seen them?
Where did the Culp dies go?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Rusty
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:12 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Suburban and Catalogs
It's kind of like the Culp Bros. that weren't brothers and they lived in
different cities. One set did some molds and the other ones did some die
casting.
My Rex suburban has steel driver tires. My Rex suburban also came with out
the port hole window, if fact no window there at all. My suburban also had the
famous Culp Bros Andrews style trucks with those neat rib backed die cast
wheels.
There is an S scale that lives in San Mateo Ca.
He is 85
He got started in S in about 1940.
He use to build CD model airplanes but got interested in S when he visited
some hobby shop that had those old CD S scale models
He ran around with some guy named Ben Carpenter after WWII
This Ben guy was REX
Scale versions of PUTT 0-6-0's that I have had the misfortune of working on
have square driver tires, no taper at all
James Rustermier
Re: What's a Suburban? Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Ebay 130880725205
A Dockside is an Inner City loco
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: What's a Suburban? Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Ebay 130880725205
A double ended locomotive for suburban service ie, commuter engine.
On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Tom Hawley wrote:
- Original Message -
From: danconialead
. . . . . . . . He calls it a Suburban, but I'm not sure if this is
correct, since I can't find a picture of the prototype when I search
`Suburban locomotive', Suburban 4-4-2' and related terminology. . . . . . .
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
group_l...@dapenguin.net
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Suburban and Catalogs
I knew that but would rather twist the facts.
Does S stand for SENIORS Gauge ?
JohnArmstrong
- Original Message -
From: Ed
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 12:59 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Suburban and Catalogs
How do you get square driver tires on round wheels?
John Armstrong
The tread is exactly 90 degrees to the flange. The tread is flat and
perfectly horizontal and parallel to the ties. The is no small filet radius
between the tread and the flange. Not criticizing, just explaining. With a
tapered tread the loco tends to keep itself centered on the track and not
wander. With a small radius, the wheels tend to NOT pick points. It is the
cross section of the tread that is square. The other view shows a circle. Ed
Loizeaux
Re: What's a Suburban? Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Ebay 130880725205
Lee was absolutely correct. That is what the loco was made for. Whether it is
absolutely a prototype or not.
The founder told me what he had in mind. He was following some NYC or a New
England loco style.
His switcher was somewhat PRR. Modeling in S (manufacturing) was a bit
loose in those days. It was before the rivet ,and bolt thread counters were
not as passionet as they are today.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: What's a Suburban? Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Ebay 130880725205
Lee I beg to differ;
A Suburban is a tank engine with very specific attributes.
1) Double Ended for ROAD service, this means having full pilots at both ends
2) Fast, Able to do high speed quickly
3) High fuel water capacity hence the 4 wheel truck REAR truck.
Only 3 designs I know of; a 2-4-4, several 4-6-4 and the biggest a 4-6-6.
All the suburban types but the one were 4-6-0 types modified with a 4 or 6
wheel rear truck to hold the tanks. The other was a 2-4-0 so modified, which
was the prototype for the Rexx engine.
I believe you are referring to what is called a tank switcher usually with a
2 wheel 'trailing' truck. Porter and others also made a plantation engine.
A 4 wheel rear truck as on a Suburban but low drivered for pull not speed.
There were some narrow gauge tank engines also double ended, in fact advertised
as such so as not needing turntables, but not built for speed and usually with
a trailing truck not a rear truck.
Hope this clears things,
TCC:}
BTW: The closest to a double engined 2 facer (44, 45 tonner et al) in a
steam engine would be a Farley:)
On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:35 AM, mac...@aol.com wrote:
A Suburban is not a double ended engine like a 44 tonner, but a usually
smaller engine with the coal and water bunker being a part of the back of the
engine and supported by the back truck. By the way, the Rex engine bearing this
configuration has been called a Suburban for over forty years that I know of,
right or wrong. Another by the way, a Rex Suburban is a 2-4-4, not a 4-4-2.
Lee McCarty
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
group_l...@dapenguin.net
Re: {S-Scale List} Lathe/MicroMark roller
Now you can start a business reworking the roller I have had for years.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Lathe/MicroMark roller [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Bill Lane included below]
I have long thought that most MicroMark tools are 80% of what they could be
if someone that knew how to actually use it would just think it through a
little more. All of my MicroMark tools have had some modification to them.
The roller bender was about the most annoying to me. If you were rolling a
tube once it closed you truly had to take the whole roller apart to get your
piece out. All they had to do was make a loose axle for the top center roller.
Slide the axle and roller out. That was easy.
But NO! The axle is firmly pressed in the roller. A friend that is a real
machinist instead of playing one like me made me a new roller with a loose
axle. But he somehow kept missing my point about wanting a knob at the end of
the roller axle.
So in a little make work project this morning I used my new lathe for the
first time to make a knob for the roller axle. The axle was almost the same
length as the whole thing is wide so I had to cheat it a bit. A little green
Zap A Gap and force fit of new knob to roller axle. I am good to go. The new
lathe is a lot more powerful than the Unimat lathe (which is still for sale -
price just reduced!). The tailstock is a little wonky. I just have to get used
to it all. I have to align the cutter tool so that is makes contact at the
center of the workpiece. All in due time..
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} New S Scale Only Coupler Design
Never heard of that firm. Not that all the new firms which have arrived on the
scene over the years are broadly known. It's great they did the new coupler.
Whart is the plastic that is formed. How tough is it?. Does it work as a burn
out material in lost wax casting (investment).
This raises a question: Can we create new dentures or teeth and eliminate the
dentist expense if we have our own unit?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Daniel McConnachie
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} New S Scale Only Coupler Design
Nicely played my friend.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:06 AM, cnr3304 an...@mlwservices.ca wrote:
Hi All,
Jim Martin and I were sitting around talking to one of our new S Scale
friends, Arnold Ziffle. We were discussing the coupler issue and Arnie revealed
to us that he has a cousin who works for that esteemed firm SRA Silverman and
Associates Engineering firm. Well Arnie got right at it and had him design a
new coupler especially for S Scale and had it printed out on a 3D printer!
I have acquired the first copy of this coupler and will put it to the test.
I took some photos which I will upload to the list photo section. Look under 1
New Coupler Design.
I think it's uncannuy how well it fits so nicely in the NASG Kadee 802
coupler height gauge. Only a fool would hesitate to see that it's the ultimate
in coupler design and simplicty.
I'm sure that you'll agree that this will really get some people to sit up
and notice. We're hoping that all the S Scale manufacturers will adopt this as
their new S Scale standard coupler.
Since this is the pilot model and I only have one, I can't wait to get my
hands on more and install them on all my equipment. Good bye Kadee jiggle, so
long Sergent fussiness. The new standard is in town!
cheers, eh?
Andy Malette
--
Daniel McConnachie
Re: {S-Scale List} AM frame
I got lost on all this password stuff.
John Armstrong, or is it that yankees are not allowed in?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: David Engle
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} AM frame
Could it even be the same frame that was used under the Baldwin S-12?
The trucks are sure still the same. DJE
Dave Engle
--- On Fri, 3/29/13, Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com wrote:
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} AM frame
To: S Scale List S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 29, 2013, 4:19 PM
Does anyone know how to tell the difference between a AM RS frame and
a FA frame? I have a almost complete drive less motor with Alco side frames on
it. Just trying to ID the beast. I think it is a FA frame. Could them be the
same? 1 size fits all! (:-)
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: S-CAB Installed in A.M. FA-2
Those are set up to throttle the customer.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Matt
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:48 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: S-CAB Installed in A.M. FA-2
Peter,
Oh, I believe it's for real. I'm just not convinced that spending $250 for a
throttle to control a $2.00 motor will give me the switching performance I
desire.
I did view your desktop running video but it starts and stops entirely too
fast for my taste. Not like a prototype loco at all.
I'll keep checking your very informative website.
Thanks,
Matt
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Peter Vanvliet groups@... wrote:
Matt,
I'll see what I can do about a video, but it is no different than any
other system in terms actual running. The page does have a link to a
video of the chassis running on my desk, just to prove that it is for
real. :-)
Peter Vanvliet (peter@...)
Re: {S-Scale List} SSLS Y-3 Product Review
IT FREE'S US from O G HO Z
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Ed
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:21 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} SSLS Y-3 Product Review
Gents
This might be a good time to mention that Dick's new product review also
includes the S Scale Locomotive Supply, SSLS, (aka Fred Rouse) conversion of
the Lionel loco to scale wheels and DCC operation. Fred's efforts are shown in
the photos and also explained in the text.
And, while I am at it, it is interesting to note that the S SIG's
conversational forum has recently reached the 1,000 mark with messages devoted
to S scale modeling topics. That is 1,000 messages -- not 1,000 members (yet).
We are growing slowly and steadily. No rush, this is a hobby. Right?
Now is a good time to join us for some interesting experiences. No need to be
a member of anything. Free!
Ed Loizeaux
http://sscale.org/
The S Scale SIG is pleased to announce another release of The S Scale
Journal. In Vol. 2 No. 3 Dick Karnes brings us a comprehensive review of
Lionel's Y-3 with accompanying photographs by Gary Schrader. You'll find the
new article on our site at
http://sscale.org/1031/volume-2-no-3-lionel-usra-2-8-8-2-reviewed/
Thanks,
Chris Borgmeyer
S Scale SIG Webmaster
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: speaking of E-Zines
Paper would be useful in a night time emergency
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: rxman46...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: speaking of E-Zines
When Newsweek was hardcopy I kept mine on my night stand and read it before
going to sleep. Now, with their digital only format I haven't looked at it yet.
There's something about falling asleep with paper in hand that's comforting.
John Griffin
Des Plaines Valley
Re: {S-Scale List} Post on S
WW II helped kill S.. OO went out due to Elliot Donnelly taking over the
family publishing company. He always kept OO going due to his wealth. It was
good. Most of it got converted to O Narrow Gauge.
Walthers always had ads in MR during the war to keep them going. The S gauge
world never quite came back. Athearn and another outfit swamped HO with all
those super car kits. Mantua maintained a steady flow along with Varney.
The S manufacturers never pushed to the same degree. Flyer pretty much stayed
the same. Leonard Blum purchased Flyer (I saw the papers). A certain
personality from NY City yanked it out from under him. That was the only time I
ever saw Leonard afraid for himself (even as a lawyer)
TT came along but flopped due to the manufacturers dislike of detail (went
there twice). Two other outfits started making cars but even with high detail a
cheap plastic used warped everything IN THE BOX
MR decided to pull back support for OO AND S (I got that from 2 friends in the
company).
There are other reasons as well. That O gauge outfit with the F-3 and steam
loco kit made a big hit (BTS now owns it. At least the steam part.) HO parts
dies fit most die cast and plastic molding machines.
Maybe it's the fault of the eye glass manufacturers.
I got involved with 1:1 scale and traction.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: gsc3
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Post on S
After writing the last post and reading it, I meant to delete it and not sent
it. It got sent by mistake. Hopefully I didn't put my name on it and our good
listowners have my permission and request to delete my prior post about S
growing.
Thanks,
George Courtney
{S-Scale List} Membership directory
My dad, John W. Metzger, was the data base person for the NASG group in the early 1990's for about 8 years. He kept a list of who was ever in the NASG at that time. When the membership expired, it was placed in an inactive file, but kept so that a reminder post card was sent to remind of past due dues. All it took was to run a copy of the membership list, give it to Pete at Goelner Printing, and it was printed in the Dispatch. Are we as a group not keeping a membership roster? The data base roster is what was used to print the August issue. Sent from my iPhone Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: 1/64's Modeling Guide?
I agree about the age factor. I am 1 month short of 91. It is a far different
world out there. I refer to it as being very impersonal in many ways but also
rather handy in some ways.
My wife is an artist, and a graphic designer. In Who's Who in American Art.
She now often uses an I -Mac but prefers going back to water colors and other
materials.
t isthe tactil world that is disapearing (as well as the wild animals) In that
case the Flyer guys and scalers keep that part alive.
Just think , some day all of you will be using 3 D printing (BTS will have 4
D) . All our battleships and carriers will look like drones. And everyone will
wear an electronic toilet and sewer systems will be a think of the past.
I have a model I made now sitting in the basement. I inherited it from a former
employer. The Buick Parts Distributing Center in Flint Michigan. 3D drafting
now replaces those types of models
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Michael Greene
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: 1/64's Modeling Guide?
I might add a few personal observations on digital pubs:
1) I believe that top shelf content is really THE key to retaining readers in
digital media.
2) I believe use of digital media is generational -- no offense intended, but
the greater the age, the less likely digital media is used. But a lot depends
on having the right device. With the right device (usually a tablet), digita
media is more acceptable as the age rises. (next bullet)
3) I believe acceptance and use of digital media is based on having an easy
to access, comfortable to use (for each user) digital device. For example,
digital media was of little value to me personally (except for archiving) as
long as I had to read on a Windows PC. I consider (a very personal opinion
IMHO) a Windows PC to be a very inflexible reader for Digital media. Highly
functional, but not convenient. It's not easy to carry everywhere...and as a
result I rarely read digital media. But when I got my iPad 3 tablet, digital
media came alive for me. I always have my iPad 3 with me, and thus I always
have all my reading materials with me -- magazines, books, etc.
4) A great concern of mine for digital media is archiving. If the content is
important to me, do I trust the publisher to be available in 5 or 25 years
when I want to look up an article in a back issue? If not, then I prefer the
publisher to distribute pubs in PDF form, or some other form I can download to
my PC. Then it can go into my pesonal digital archive. Also recognize most
digital devices like tablets have limited storage. So likely a user would only
have the last 1-4 issues on hand. All the rest need to be either available for
instant access via the publisher's digital archive or mine.
5) I know that in the paper era I over-subscribed. Meaning a lot of pubs I
never read, or skimmed only occasionally. With digital media at least for me, I
have substantially reduced digital subscriptions to a small set of publications
that have I consider as having substantial amounts of great content (my
definition of great ay not be the same as yours). Not just acceptable content
-- but pubs where most of the content I consider above average. These days I've
reduced the list of pubs I read consistently.
6) Reading digital media for me is now convenient, but I skim less, looking
for more higher quality articles to spend my reading time. And for it to be
considered, digital media MUST be readable offline (without an internet
connection except to load). And preferably the latest issue pushed to my device
-- not that I have to remember to download. But even in these I don't read
always read the whole pub. But by having digital media, I can always read it
when it is of interest. I will say that most of my reading has moved to the
digital device -- why? it's very simple. It always with me. Paper media I have
to go and find, remember to take with me, etc. Here's a sample
Read in digital media:
Paid subscriptions:
Boston Globe (daily)
Model Trains - 2 mags (RMC, 1:64MG)
1 current weekly news magazine
1 photography mag
1 home theater mag
Consumer Reports
Free subscriptions
Model Railroad Hobbyist
PRR Keystone Modeler
A few top shelf club newsletters (e.g., Pioneer Valley S
Gaugers News)
1 Current events weekly mag
S Scale SIG journal
Read in Paper Media
Model Railroad News (I will soon switch to reading in digital media
form)
Read in Paper Media (much less frequently, would prefer digital media):
NASG Dispatch
S Gaugian
FWIW, one person's opinion.
Michael Greene
PS I was able to fund my iPad 3 purchase, simply based
Re: {S-Scale List} 1/64's Modeling Guide?
Know the changes out there to an electronic junk world. Printed books have a
certain physical and mental feel that the electronic world does not have (at
least to me)
We are downsizing our house due to age and the need to move. I would say we had
(have) close to a thousand books in this house. - architecture, archaeology,
the arts, railroads ,history, fiction, and many other subjects.
I'll be damned if I get a book or magazine on this computer. Glad I am 91.
Everyone now likes 3 or 4 point type.Especialy for instructions, or hiding
food sources on packages (Check Congress on how to buy this)
To me that RR magazine is useless. Have tried to look at it.
Wish I could have used your 3 D method when I was doing architectural models.
It would have been a great time saver on models with a thousand parts. But
that enhanced your skills while doing it.
Ingot mills, foundries, pulp mills with seaports, French candy plants, banks,
Airline food service centers. It was endless but satisfying.
My wife, an artist. notes the coldness of the world of computerized graphics.
Like A F .Fun without have much to do.
If you want to have fun, go ashore with the Marines sometime.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: SMMW
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:47 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} 1/64's Modeling Guide?
Printed media (books, newspapers, magazines, newsletters, etc.) have been
struggling for several years. Printing costs and shipping costs continually
increase, readership drops off and the end result is unprofitability. Many
have shut down. My wife, an avid reader, downloads 95% of her books via Kindle.
The availability of on-line information via web sites, chat groups, blogs and
the very successful Model Railroad Hobbyist e-zine are a few examples of how
information presentation has morphed in the past few years. Some flavors of
today's cell phones have replaced laptops. I'm a 100% supporter of on-line
media, including the handful of modeling mags published irregularly by several
historical societies, because they're fast, current, don't take up shelf space,
and offer highly detailed articles (120+ pages per publication is common).
None of these can be addressed via paper media, especially current or lengthy
articles. While I still enjoy sitting down to read the latest MR and flip thru
the pages several times if an article catches my eye, the reality is that to
grow any venture, the supplier must cater to ever-changing technology in order
to reach potential young recruits to any hobby, not just model railroading.
Any flavor of social media seems to be the way to achieve this.
Jim King
President, Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.
Ph. (828) 777-5619
www.smokymountainmodelworks.com
Trainmaster, Craggy Mountain Line RR
www.craggymountainline.com
Re: {S-Scale List} SHS truck screws and washers
Ed, Here you go. Dave's Twacks Twains http://davestnt.com/index.html John Claudino AZTEC MANUFACTURING CO. On Mar 10, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Edward Davis wrote: Hi, Does anyone know a source for the small screws and washers used to mount SHS trucks to freight cars? With SHS gone, parts are hard to find. Thanks. Ed Davis
Re: {S-Scale List} assembling the 802
You should always put the springs ni by sliding a small, short screwdriver tip
between the coils. Use an Optiviser when doing it. I have done it on N gauge
couplers.
Remember #1. Always use tools for something they WERE NOT designed
for!!!
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} assembling the 802
I really don't see what all the fuss is about. When I first switched to S
Scale I wound up with about 80 AM freight cars to rushed assemble at once. I
very quickly took to inserting the centering spring with my thumbs - NO tools.
These days I just use tweezers.
No subcontractor needed.. What's the hubbub bub?
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} One size fits all couplers
I worry about all these modelers who get hung up about couplling!!!
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} One size fits all couplers [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Bill Lane included below]
Here are some couplers that are 1 size fits all. It has worked for me for 25
years.
BTW I am currently working on a car instead of postulating about bigger or
smaller couplers.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
***Join the PRR THS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Re: {S-Scale List} Lionel Mikado
If that Lionel Mike was done with a rubber boiler anyone could just pump it up
to get the heavy one. With all the hot air generated about it being the wrong
one would solve a lot of problems.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Alex Binkley
To: s-scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Lionel Mikado
Hi Ed:
actually Fred did answer my question in another posting noting that what was
offered was a light Mike when what was desired was a heavy mike.
My problem is I like steam engines although my layout is set in the
1990s-2000s. The Y3 would be a gas but it would be wayyy too big.
An NYC SD70 might more suitable--I'm sure Canada Southern could lease it :)
cheers
Alex Binkley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
From: loize...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:45:45 +
Subject: {S-Scale List} Lionel Mikado
Fred did do some work on developing the scale drive for it, but I think
it was determined to be infeasible:
Roger
I've wondered about asking Fred Rouse whether he's contemplating doing
for it what's offering to do for the Y3.
Alex Binkley
Gents
The design of a Lionel locomotive can grease the skids for scale conversion
or it can greatly inhibit scale conversion. Being inhibited does not mean scale
conversion is impossible, but it becomes very time consuming and expensive.
The real beauty of Fred's cooperative relationship with Lionel is that he
can discuss the matter with Lionel and ask that future locos be designed in
such a way that makes scale conversion even easier than with the Y-3. Thus,
there is the hope that Fred's conversion services can become more economical.
We do not know how much influence Fred will wield, but he is sort of almost
indirectly sitting at the table. Best to ask Fred questions about specific
models. He is far more knowledgeable than I am.
CheersEd Loizeaux
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Re: {S-Scale List} Admin: List messages
Was this a general message to all list members or specifically to me?
John Gibson
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Date: 02/26/2013 11:02 AM
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Admin: List messages
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Re: {S-Scale List} mth update
Now that Lionel is close to be beaten to death WHO is next?
MTH ? They don't have enough out there yet to be taken on by the S Gestopo.
Jettie, and Billy Wade are you willing to get in line? SSLS it's about time
to put some tires backward on the drivers, but if the tires are scale nobody
will see them.
Have fun.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Ed
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} mth update
From: Alan Lambert
I think we all need to wait on MTH. I know I am.
At this point, is there any other alternative?
Ed Loizeaux
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Observations on the Lionel
MAYBE lIONEL LOOKS AT ALL THE SCALE COMMENTS LIKE SCALE IS REALLY RUST.
JUST SCRAPE IT OFF
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: richgajnak
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Observations on the Lionel
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, ctxmf74 wrote:
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed wrote:
I have not heard any comments from Lionel regarding sales volume of
so-called scale products. Could it be considered confidential?
Hi Ed, I would expect it's confidential company information.
My concern is that they do like AtlasO did when they were making about 90%
of a run in 3 rail and 10% in 2 rail. The 2 rail units would sell out right
away and 2 railers would be forced to buy 3 rail units and convert them so it
looked like the 2 rail market was 10% when it was more like 25% cause they were
buying 15% of the units in 3 rail to convert. If they want to seriously exploit
the scale market they need to make and stock enough stuff that prospective
modelers can find and buy it over a period of time longer than a pre-ordering
period. It takes a while for new modelers to find out what is available in
other scales, once they discover it they need to be able to buy it. does no
good to tell them that they shoulda been in the scale last year cause
regrettably they weren'tDaveBranum
The obvious solution would be for MTH and Lionel to adopt the SHS solution of
including scale wheels in the package and allow the modeler to change them out
if he so desires, with perhaps the exception of steam locomotives. I'm sure
there a folks out there that have already suggested this to them.
Lionel cataloged including scale wheels with the first run of U33C's but
backed away for some reason. This made the locomotive somewhat attractive to
the S Scaler, but without DC or DCC fuctionality out of the box, there would be
little else to attract same, unless they were willing to gut about a hundred
bucks worth of electronics.
Perhaps now that DC/DCC functionality is being built in, they will reconsider
this approach. Perhaps not. If response for SD70 scale wheel conversions is
greater than expected, who knows?
S has the advantage over 3-rail O in that there's no pesky middle pickup
roller or uninsulated wheelsets to deal with, so the basic product design
already has to take not shorting out the outside rails into consideration
regardless of the power source.
Doubtless Lionel and MTH have a learning curve in dealing with the S market.
Lionel has already budged a little and MTH will soon find out what works and
what doesn't.
Rich G(ajnak)
Re: {S-Scale List} mth update
WellI did not like the colors on the boxes.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: dont08901
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} mth update
Dear Andre, Just so you know, if I had bought our line and had the deep
pockets that MTH did I too would re-engineer many of our products. But, it is
not fair for me to just give a general answer like that. What would I change???
1. speakers in our SW1
2. change F unit gear box to be like that switchers. That is the gear rotates
around an fixed axle. This would eliminate 36 bearings in a ABA lashup that
each one generates noise (and more friction than a delrin gear on a steel axle).
3. Change 2-8-0 locomotive drawbar post from delrin to metal.
4. Make 2-8-0 smoke unit chamber twice as deep and use a nichrome element
replacing the wirewound resistor.
5. revise headlight connection from foil contacts to anything else (to make
the foil contact the pads of pcb on boiler front, they added foam rubber under
foil. If the smoke unit is overfilled, the foam rubber deteriorates which is
not a problem unless you remove the smoke front).
6. Make gear on 2-8-0 #4 driver wider.
7
Even when Mike and I owned SHS, we were constantly re-engineering the
tooling. Look at the first two runs of SW9 switchers, we retooled several
aspects of the model. Or, the switches, I think they were updated with each run,
So, I would applaud any improvement that Mike W and gang decide on the models
we brought out. I think that would be a plus...
Best,
Don Thompson...
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Andre Ming wrote:
Simply mentioned my discouragement upon reading that MTH intends to
re-engineer an already excellent product.
Not intended to be a gripe. Just expressed my concern.
See 'ya.
Andre Ming
- Original Message -
From: Ed
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} mth update
Hey Andre;
Lets give MTH a chance...
Pieter E. Roos
I was expecting it would be at least eight hours after the first MTH
catalog was released before the first gripes would surface. Boy -- was I wrong
with that estimate.
Here are a few thoughts:
1. What if the MTH internal electronics runs those switchers equally as
well as the SHS approach? Or.maybe even better?
2. If not, why not remove the MTH electronics and install a Tsunami
decoder. Selling off the MTH electronics will probably pay for the Tsunami. Not
a bad thing to consider.
3. Contine the hunt for an SHS switcher on eBay. They seem to appear with
some regularity and with a little paint and some decals, they will satisfy most
folks.
4. Is there really anything wrong with waiting until you have a product in
your hand before making comments about it? Seems like everyone has to be
'first' to say something -- anything -- justified or not.
Nothing personal about Andre', but just some thoughts for contemplation by
others.
Cheers.Ed Loizeaux
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Re: {S-Scale List} High-rail and Lionel and NMRA wheels......
Just make sure they are round.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Ed
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:02 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} High-rail and Lionel and NMRA wheels..
I think I am correct that the NASG never has been able to come up with
standards that everyone would agree on for highrail wheels.
Earl Henry
I think you are correct that there are no generally accepted high-rail
standards or specifications. SHS and AM are probably the closest to being
generally acceptable today, but I doubt if even those two are exactly the same.
I seem to recall the NMRA having something like 'large flange' dimensions or
something similar. But it has been a long time since I have looked into that.
And the big problem was that anything NASG came up with, Lionel would
ignore, and could ignore since they dominated the highrail market.
Since NASG has not developed high-rail standards, it is pure speculation what
Lionel would do if they were developed. I believe the Lionel scale wheels
conform to the NMRA/NASG specs for scale wheels.
But doesn't the NASG have standards for scale wheels?
I think the NASG and NMRA specifications are identical for scale wheels.
If so, I cannot think of any excuse if Lionel ignores those standards as it
says it is trying to enter the scale market.
Comments?
Earl Henry, Nashville
First comment is that I am not aware of Lionel ignoring official NMRA
standards for scale wheels. The U33C with Lionel-made scale wheels ran
perfectly on my layout. I have not yet seen any SD70 scale wheels and so cannot
comment about them. The Fred Rouse scale wheels on the Lionel Y-3 ran perfectly
on my layout. No problems there. I am not sure if Lionel or Fred need to make
any excuse for anything.
Second comment is that I have not heard Lionel ever state that it is trying
to enter the scale market. Maybe they are, but I have not heard them state
that. Two locos with scale wheels might be a mere experiment -- a toe in the
water. Or it might be more. I have no idea. The new 2013 catalog will give us a
clue (hopefully).
Cheers...Ed Loizeaux
{S-Scale List} Re: NASG Membership Make-up
Looking at the Northern Ohio S Scalers meeting today, we had 11 members attend which I would consider active. 3 - NASG 3 - S Scale List 4 - S Scale.org 1 - NMRA 7 - Railroad Historical Organizations 2 members have sizable active S Scale layouts. We send out about 40 Newsletters. Looks like maybe 10 percent are NASG and even less for S Scale List. I beleive I am the only NMRA member. Which is unusual since most of us came from a Scale environment. I'll have to poll the club for exact numbers. We had a nice clinic on building a static grass wand. We now have three in the club and two more finishing up. We also had previews on the Cleveland 'S' Spree convention cars. Thanks to the CVSGA for bringing them for us to see. We are getting our new modules ready to show for the NMRA Div 5 show March 16 17. Sorry no green beer allowed. After maybe. -- John Henning N.O.S.S. Head 'S'nipe S Scale.org NMRA Life Memeber - 30 years CO HS Member and former Director BO HS Member ACL-SAL-SCL HS Member NASG Member --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Rusty thebrassbasher@... wrote: Before last Saturday I knew four active S Scalers, here on the West coast, that are: NOT members of the NASG NOT members of the S Scale list NOT members of the NMRA A week ago I started to sell horny brass balls on eBay , much better than selling here on the S list, I now know 2 more S Scalers that are: NOT members of the NASG NOT members of the S list Rusty --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Peter Vanvliet groups@ wrote: With respect to scale modeling, we currently have 215 NASG members whom have indicated that they are interested in STANDARD-GAUGE scale modeling ONLY and nothing else. HOWEVER, there are 601 members who have expressed interest in scale modeling total. For example, I checked off Scale and Sn3 in my membership application. I am therefore not counted among the 215 but rather among the 601 members. There are currently 1,067 members in this Yahoo Groups mailing list, so I would feel comfortable estimating that there are at least 1,000 people who are strongly interested in modeling S in scale. Then add to that the number of people who are neither NASG members nor members of this mailing list, but yet model in scale AND those people who happen to prefer rail heights that are somewhat taller and prefer claw couplers, but otherwise have what would appear to be a scale layout, and I suspect our numbers may be even larger (of course, that is anyone's guess) - Peter. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Commercial: DPH Sale
Now there is a name way out of the past!
John Armstrong, Kirtland Ohio
- Original Message -
From: ogac...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Commercial: DPH Sale
Ron,
Please send a sale flyer to me.
Gary Acker 3465 Leighton Road
Columbus, Ohio 43221-1322
ogac...@aol.com
Re: {S-Scale List} The NMRA and its Regions
And the members are divided into gauges who are divided into---
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Tom Hawley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:13 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} The NMRA and its Regions
Two messages have made reference to Division 5 of the NMRA.
I presume that's Division 5 of the MID-Central Region of the NMRA.
http://www.mcr5.org/NMRA/index.html
The NMRA is divided into regions, which are divided into divisions.
Tom Hawley, member, Division 5 of the NORTH-Central Region of the NMRA,
Lansing Michigan
Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Membership Interests: was S Gaugers in the NMRA
It's like long legged (high rail) dogs VS short legged (scale) dogs.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bob Werre
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Membership Interests: was S Gaugers in the
NMRA
Tom, my idea is half just intended to eliminate 25% of the things that
divide us. Really the AF term is on the Dispatch masthead, it's on our NASG
sponsored banners, and on some of the other publications. But mostly it's been
on the tongues of many of those guys who left our scale when it didn't grow in
the 60's. To me it is like using the term Kodak (back in the day) for every
camera made
In today's world I would bet only where somebody is trying to create a
museum is it kept pure AF. If you operating much you mostly likely have let
some other products run on the rails. Indeed many guys to claim to be AF have
been using Gargraves and other brands of track, + Plasticville--so they
contaminated the AF world many years ago. AF is just another brand of S Scale
that mostly uses hi-rail rail and flanges. All the differences are mostly a
matter of choice. Some of us gravitate toward better detailed items, some hate
building kits, some are happy with a Christmas tree type layout while others
will try and search out the exact time the DRGW raised the sideboards on their
gondolas. Will the guy studying the gondolas hang with the Christmas tree
guy--probably not, will one make fun of the other--maybe but that's just a bit
of life. In my personal modeling I tend to be interested in what the gondola
guy is saying rather than the guy who wants to talk about the differences
between a 307 and a 302!
I think the legit disagreement might come about with what shows S Best and
where is S going in the future. Lionel and MTH think they have a market in S
because they have invested new money in these projects. It's quiet clear that
what we've done in the past would probably rate a D or C- at best. Money spent
in the right direction might have helped. Am I criticizing somebody else--yes
and myself too!
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx
- Original Message -
From: Bob Werre
I have suggested before that we change our termonology somewhat and rid
ourselves of the AF catagory. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
I absolutely agree - but before we go charging off, what are we changing? I
just ran the NASG constitution by-laws thru a word search in my word
processor, and neither the word American nor Flyer occur in either document.
Where you do find the term American Flyer is on the cover of the Dispatch.
But anyone who says S Gauge have a scale versus highrail (includes AF)
conflict has not given the matter much thought. We are a house divided,
but the real cleft is between railroad modelling and toy train collecting,
not differing track wheel standards. In other words, if my prototype is
the 2013 Norfolk Southern and his prototype is the 1950 American Flyer
catalog, we are not going to have much in common.
We all need to be a little nicer to each other these days, in many ways.
And we can try to accommodate each other in our organizations. But denying
the existence of differences, or misidentifying them, will get us no where.
Tom Hawley -- Lansing Michigan
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: S Gaugers in the NMRA
It is a question relative to the average guy. Some just love getting high.
But can stay sober at the same time.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: westfield_depot
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:13 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: S Gaugers in the NMRA
Whoa guys! Before this gets out of hand, I never said (and I don't believe
anyone else has) there was anything wrong with Hi-Rail, AF, or the price of
beans. All I said was (and facts have born out) the perception is that a
majority of NASG members are AF oriented and a majority of NMRA members are
scale modelers. There's nothing wrong with either. They're just different. We
all align better with one or the other.
No need to get all touchy, defensive, etc. Save it for when I really do
attack AF, Hi-Rail or the NASG. :-)
Chris Borgmeyer
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Willam Fraley wrote:
What is wrong with this high rail layout?
Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Membership Interests: was S Gaugers in the NMRA
Some hobbyist just love to keep others distracked.
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Bob Werre
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Membership Interests: was S Gaugers in the
NMRA
I have suggested before that we change our termonology somewhat and rid
ourselves of the AF catagory. In fact right now, if I were starting out with
one of the new Lionel/AF engines with scale wheels, I would have to answer that
I was an AF only member, when in fact I was really in 'scale'! This doesn't
make sense!
Just imagine this...you attend the next show in the Dallas region. I'm going
to pick on those guys because they have two layouts one hirail and the other
somewhat scale from what I hear.
I walk up and ask someone--who made that neat diesel?
Oh, that's a new offering from Lionel and it's running with an Am Models
SD-60.
Well I just have a bunch of old AF in the attic--will they fit my track?
Somebody answers back...Well it'll fit your old AF track if you get the
right wheels for either of them. Now our layout uses...
Now the question is--which layout did I visit? The answer is either or
both--it just doesn't make much difference anymore.
I wished I still had my copy of a paperback book that Gilbert put out making
the case for S in comparison with 3 rail of the time. They concluded, if my
memory is correct, that Gilbert AF S gauge products were indeed hi-rail. Why
do we have to divide ourselves into so many divisions. If Gilbert could make
that statement in the mid 50's why can't we accept that 65 years later?
Bob Werre
On 2/20/13 8:54 AM, Peter Vanvliet wrote:
Chris,
Here are the facts from the NASG Online Membership:
17% is A.F. only (no other interests).
13% is scale only (no other interests).
3% is hi-rail only (no other interests).
0.3% is narrow gauge only (no other interests).
There are zero collectors-only with no other interests.
70% has expressed interest in A.F. in addition other interests (hi-rail,
scale, narrow gauge, etc.)
Re: {S-Scale List} American Models Company
Ron a great guy to deal with. Backs his products. Been a good friend to the St
Louis Club (AFSGSLA) for years. From John Metzger. Troy, Missouri 63379
From: paul4sc...@aol.com paul4sc...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} American Models Company
American Models is a great company. I've dealt with them over the years.
Their products are very good. Their motive power units are solid and run like
a trooper!
Paul Schilling
-Original Message- From: philpotridge philpotri...@netscape.net To:
S-Scale S-Scale@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:35 pm Subject:
{S-Scale List} American Models Company
Afternoon Group, Just dealt with American Models for the first time. Ordered
12 cars from their Winter Sale Wednesday A.M. Arrived Friday A.M in the
wilderness of central Maine. Great service and shipping ! Dick Bennett
