Re: about that planned elite conversion
OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 16:00:28 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: 6MHz in theory. I can't remember the exact details, but I think it was possible to achieve speeds close to that by using uncontended banks and turning off the screen duing border updates. There are no uncontended banks on Sam unless you have an external memory add-on. And turning the screen off has no effect unless the TV scan is actually in the screen area (except in mode 1). Hmm...I was pretty sure about the contention, either every second block or page I seem to recall. However, it's been a while so I might be wrong. For the screen off, I am again wrong. :) I just remember using it on a mandelbrot generation program some years ago to speed up things. But the point is that the screen is 3.5x larger, the processor speed is not. I'd like to have a blitter or dma or somthing. If it can't be done in mode 3 or 4 then it will have to be done in mode 2. But I think that for line drawing the disadvantage will not be anywhere near 3.5x even in mode 3. If you want it filled then that's a different matter... I also remember something about the CPU being slightly faster in mode 3 than i mode 4. Can't remember if that was with or without the screen turend off. Though - mode 2 should be small enough for 2/3 action. Of course the dashboard can be in mode 4 whatever mode the windscreen is in. :-) How about a transparency film to stick onto the screen? ;) -Frode imc
Re: about that planned elite conversion
OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 14:17:17 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 10:14:01 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Uhm...explain? David Braben said no to me doign an conversion to the SAM. Am I still unclear? :) OK, so the original story was correct then. :-) It's just that you appeared to say you asked him to write it. But you didn't. So that's OK then. Sorry for the ambiguety. :) Now that the Sam-hacked Speccy version is officially harmless I suppose a Sam Elite would be allowed. :-) I could ask again. -Frode imc
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Dave Hooper wrote: nah, that can't be right, because as far as i'm aware it's only big bad Bob who doesn't tend to read personal E-Mail. And he's hardly the most likely to be of assistance. Either way, do we really care?
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
In a message dated 10/12/98 13:26:50, you write: nah, that can't be right, because as far as i'm aware it's only big bad Bob who doesn't tend to read personal E-Mail. And he's hardly the most likely to be of assistance. Either way, do we really care? I read ALL email - except two people who are fixtures in the killfile. And as to the original question, I've sent a not to Robin Evans with a copy of the details (and an offer to help him if he thinks it necessary). -- Bob.
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
as everyone knows, i am against the holier-than-thou philosophy that is the 'killfile' but just out of interest, who are these two people? I read ALL email - except two people who are fixtures in the killfile. -- Bob.
RE: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
-Original Message- From: Dave Hooper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob? as everyone knows, i am against the holier-than-thou philosophy that is the 'killfile' but just out of interest, who are these two people? Have a guess :) It's between Andrew, David and I - makes me feel almost important :) It does however kind of bugger up the SAM Community group I'm trying to do, as I was hoping to work with Bob on this one, because every company/mag I've spoken to, have been very cooperative. And from what I hear, Format could do with all the free publicity it can get. Gavin Gavin Smith IMDB Support ESN 3844 External (01232)363844
Re: about that planned elite conversion
... Hmm...I was pretty sure about the contention, either every second block or page I seem to recall. However, it's been a while so I might be wrong. For the screen off, I am again wrong. :) I just remember using it on a mandelbrot generation program some years ago to speed up things. Thats the 128K speccy !!! Of course the dashboard can be in mode 4 whatever mode the windscreen is in. :-) How about a transparency film to stick onto the screen? ;) Just make sure its from that elastic stuff so it can be streched to fit each telly/monitor. Edwin BLink
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
Gavin, don`t be such an egotist, it could also be me or Robert v d veeke, or Dave Hooper ect ect..(the list goes on) M.D.L.M
Re: about that planned elite conversion
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Okay, okay... That does sound a bit bitchy to be honest! David? Bitchy? Surely not... -- Ian Dalziel
Re: about that planned elite conversion
If anyone is realy interested in doing a version of ELITE for the SAM, then send me a private e-mail, and I will put you in touch with the man who may be able to help you. M.D.L.M
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
I dunno I think most have this list have come into that catergory at one time or another. A certain made-up member of this mailing list was sending me abusive emails. Their ISP has said they will take further action if this continues. Another ISP of a party who has been making libellous acusations has also said that further comments could result in a full ban from their service. Nice to see some of these ISP's dont like upsetting the public :) -Original Message- From: Dave Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10 December 1998 13:50 Subject: Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob? as everyone knows, i am against the holier-than-thou philosophy that is the 'killfile' but just out of interest, who are these two people? I read ALL email - except two people who are fixtures in the killfile. -- Bob.
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
How can you kill file from one common email address? IE [EMAIL PROTECTED] H -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10 December 1998 13:50 Subject: Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob? In a message dated 10/12/98 13:26:50, you write: nah, that can't be right, because as far as i'm aware it's only big bad Bob who doesn't tend to read personal E-Mail. And he's hardly the most likely to be of assistance. Either way, do we really care? I read ALL email - except two people who are fixtures in the killfile. And as to the original question, I've sent a not to Robin Evans with a copy of the details (and an offer to help him if he thinks it necessary). -- Bob.
Re: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
At 10:07 pm + 10/12/98, David wrote: How can you kill file from one common email address? IE [EMAIL PROTECTED] H Huh? Look at the message headers... Sam-users emails always come From: whoever posted the message. Andrew -- | Andrew Collier | email [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Talk sense to a | Part 2 NatSci | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | fool and he ++-+ calls you foolish | Selwyn College Student Computer Support Team | -- Euripides
