Re: [Samba] Advantages to using CUPS printing on a PDC

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Müller
The only advantage I have found ist o set up a central pdf-printer with
cups. So all  pdfs are created in the users /home/pdf.
For all other stuff you will be better with a network printer. 

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Betreff: [Samba] Advantages to using CUPS printing on a PDC

Hi,

I'd like to know the advantages out there in the field, using CUPS to print
from the PDC. To me it sounds like just adding another single point of
failure in the network, perhaps I am being blinded by windows printing
issues to see the advantage in running all the prints via a PDC box?

How out there has implemented it and has it helped?

Kind Regards,
Michael da Silva Pereira
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Re: [Samba] Advantages to using CUPS printing on a PDC

2011-10-28 Thread Miguel Medalha



I'd like to know the advantages out there in the field, using CUPS to print
from the PDC. To me it sounds like just adding another single point of
failure in the network, perhaps I am being blinded by windows printing
issues to see the advantage in running all the prints via a PDC box?


Centralized management of printers? Print job accounting? Network 
printing to printers without a network interface?

These examples can be important in some environments.

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Re: [Samba] Advantages to using CUPS printing on a PDC

2011-10-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Miguel Medalha miguelmeda...@sapo.pt wrote:

 I'd like to know the advantages out there in the field, using CUPS to
 print
 from the PDC. To me it sounds like just adding another single point of
 failure in the network, perhaps I am being blinded by windows printing
 issues to see the advantage in running all the prints via a PDC box?

 Centralized management of printers? Print job accounting? Network printing
 to printers without a network interface?
 These examples can be important in some environments.

In particular, the ability for an admin to lock the printing to a
single server, or pair of servers, on a dedicated VLAN and provide a
single point of *management* for print queues. There's nothing like
having to find the idiot who's been sending their 300 page print jobs
to the wrong printer, and resent it 10 times because it kept not
coming out, and get the jobs killed from their laptop. And no, they
won't accept the bill for $1/page because it's the color printer: it's
IT's problem to make this not happen, even when it's the same idiot
who won't permit IT to *label the printers visibly* because it
detracts from the ambience of the office used for presentations.

Been there, had some idiot printing dozens of resumes for handing out
to a poster printer. We got suspicious and pulled the plug on the
printer when we heard it churning that long.
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Re: [Samba] Advantages to using CUPS printing on a PDC

2011-10-28 Thread José Guzmán

On 10/28/2011 12:15 AM, Michael da Silva Pereira wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to know the advantages out there in the field, using CUPS to print
from the PDC. To me it sounds like just adding another single point of
failure in the network, perhaps I am being blinded by windows printing
issues to see the advantage in running all the prints via a PDC box?

How out there has implemented it and has it helped?

Kind Regards,
Michael da Silva Pereira
I see no advantage to use the PDC as print server, but I guess there are 
many ways to get the same results and it depends on the size/needs of 
your place.


We have a couple of BDCs in every VLAN, one of them serves as a CUPS 
print server to samba on the VLAN and every user in the VLAN has it's 
printers configured. That way, the PDC serves a single purpose (it's 
also our master DNS btw) and it's easy to back-up and restore while 
users can keep working/printing in case something happens to it, 
although in 4 years it has never failed.


Depending on the print volume and burst-rate, you may even do without a 
samba print server, for a small setup, an HP/netgear printserver may 
work. In our case, largish queue handling and print Classes (for added 
redundancy) offer a better advantage over 'hardware' printservers.


Greetings

 José
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