Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:37 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/27/2010 4:17:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kenancy2...@yahoo.com writes: Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, bar none. i used to think Agave Nectar was fantastic but this article by Weston Price has really made me think again. I avoid it now. http://www.westonaprice.org/Agave-Nectar-Worse-Than-We-Thought.html Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSRisk of Drugs
Vioxx was withdrawn because it killed thousands of people. This was the only reason it *was* withdrawn, because if it had been just a few hundred, then it would never have come to the publics notice. Just a few hundred you might say - pity if you happen to be one of them! dee On 27 Feb 2010, at 19:18, Pat wrote: I'd heard that there was an increase in risk with Vioxx and then Bextra, but the risk seemed very slight. I would have been willing to sign a release to be able to continue using it. The issue was quality of life. It's sometimes worth more risk to be able to have a decent life. My orthopaedic surgeon said he thought the risk was very slight and said he'd given his Bextra samples to his mother when they took it off the market. The same goes for hormones. Continue a satisfying relationship with the hubby, keep him happy at home and enjoy the closeness or possibly lose interest or ability. Definitely worth a little added risk for much increased quality of life. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Mine does that automatically i.e it turns off when it gets to approximately 16ppm which then drops to ten after a couple of days of standing. If you want higher you switch from auto to manual and then leave it run until it reaches whatever you want. This is what *I* call easy! lol dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 04:09, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Hi Dee -- the Silver Puppy has a superb reputation, and it's no surprise that you're happy with it. But I wanted to clarify your misconception -- the Colloid Master is not complicated. My routine for making a jar of CS is to attach the alligator clips to the silver bars, plug the unit in and press the *start* button. Couldn't be simpler. And like you, no crud. I suspect that the people having this problem simply have their ppm-level set too high. All that silver is gonna go someplace if the unit is brewing for three or four times longer than needed. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Have you had any benefits from this Chuck? dee On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Dee, As a personal experiment, dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water... Taste it. Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade? Put it in a blender... add a tablespoon of lecithin granules... Blend for at least a full minute... Taste it. Much milder? If so, add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more... Taste it... Still mild? Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be palatable. Bowel tolerance is also improved. Up to your individual tolerance, of course. The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level. I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough. Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the postage is $28! I asked them why they don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the only one they will use. A real shame. I buy from iHerb lots of things and they use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4! DHL only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant! Trouble is, they don't stock the liposomal stuff! dee On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote: I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the HF US cleaner. This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram. BUT I believe he claims only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a no-brainer. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSarchives
I say Mike, I am mightily impressed with those archives! So easy to use and clear. Way to go Mike! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the synthetic ascorbic acid. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!! But you do not also not gain vitality. Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!! Louise On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote: I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the HF US cleaner. This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram. BUT I believe he claims only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a no-brainer. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
Even if told the side effects of death people will still take a drug as they do not believe they will be the one that has that side effect. I know someone that has soft bones and she takes a drug that helps the bones be stronger but one of the side effects is death. To me this is not a good trade off. There is no logic to me the benefits to not outweigh the risk when there are other methods to increase bone density that do not have death as a side effect. Louise -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners. snip if they had been given the information - may not have gotten sick if they had known that it could have had that effect. For instance, the thousands of people who died from taking Vioxx - if they had been told that this was a possibility - would they have still taken it? Some may 'because the doctor said,' but some might not haveand they would still be alive today. dee On 27 Feb 2010, at 15:19, Ode Coyote wrote: snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDeadly to dogs - XYLITOL
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/xylitol.asp Bill Corley www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk without having to talk the talk. -- Alan Cohen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
Right -- the Colloid Master does it automatically too. But you pre-determine the ppm-level you want via a dial that goes from 1 (very,very low) to 10 (very, very high). I always keep my unit dialed to *3* and it consistently produces 10-12 ppms, which is exactly what I want. I have no vested interest in which CS generator anyone chooses to use -- but I didn't want to leave anyone with the impression that the Colloid Master is a difficult unit to operate. It isn't. (smile) MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 6:16:37 AM Subject: Re: CSColloid Master?? Mine does that automatically i.e it turns off when it gets to approximately 16ppm which then drops to ten after a couple of days of standing. If you want higher you switch from auto to manual and then leave it run until it reaches whatever you want. This is what *I* call easy! lol dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSweeteners , where to get XYLITOL
We use Lakanto from Body Ecology https://shop.bodyecology.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BE021 Here is what it is: The two natural ingredients in Lakanto are Non-GMO erythritol and the supersweet extract of the luo han guo fruit Erythritol is a sugar alcohol naturally found in grapes, pears, mushrooms, soy sauce, cheese, wine and beer, so it and has been part of the human diet for thousands of years. You may be familiar with other sugar alcohols like xylitol, sorbitol, and malitol used in sugar-free candies and chewing gum. But erythritol is different and much better than these other sugar alcohols because it is FERMENTED. Yes, it is made by fermenting the sugar in corn. (That is the blurb from the site) Tara McClintick http://www.booksbytara.com www.booksbytara.com _ From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSweeteners , where to get XYLITOL My bag of xylitol says that it is extracted from corn somehow.I googled the stuff and there are a number fruits and vegetables that can provide this, including birch as well as corn. I don't use it for anything that my wife may consume as she has a very pronounced reaction to consuming anything made with corn, corn starch or corn syrup. Instead of her normal daily migraine, she has extremely severe migraines for the next three days. We are always being blind sided too. Xylitol is great for me, but I won't risk it for my wife... sigh! Truthfully, I didn't know that people had a hard time getting this stuff. I just bought my bag of it at the local health food store and didn't think anything of it. Steve --- On Sat, 2/27/10, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Subject: CSSweeteners , where to get XYLITOL To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 12:46 PM Go to http://www.emeraldforestsugar.com Xylitol is a sweetener made from biomass, From a company called Emerald Forrest, I have used it for many years, it is used by millions of Diabetics successfully. I used to have to buy it in Sweden , but a few years ago they put a plant in Colorado. Xylitol from this plant is all natural and made from Birch Bark. It is very low in carbs and Calories. In Cooking Xylitol is one to one in a recipe that calls for sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar (without the fat left on your bones.) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Herbalist http://www.quailwoodherbal.com _
Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling
Yeah -- but Gayla -- that 60 cc syringe and 26 gauge needle ain't gonna work for kittens or puppies!! lol Any of these products can be ordered through catalogs, and no signature necessary. MA From: Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 12:26:12 PM Subject: Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling You can buy syringes and needles at many farm supply stores. You may have to sign for them, but tell them they are for kittens or puppies. I buy syringes for livestock from 1 cc to 60 cc and needles from 14 gauge to 26 gauge. Gayla -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSarchives
I say Mike, I am mightily impressed with those archives! So easy to use and clear. Way to go Mike! dee I'm glad you're enjoying 'em, Dee. grin Were you able to find the liver cleanse info yet? I tried, but it was being kind of obtuse. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[List Owner] Archive Etiquette
Hi folks, I've been meaning to post a message on how we use the archives when helping each other and new people. I imagine that most of you that have used them already, notice that search results can be all over the map. They're sorted, I think, by some measure of relevance. Whereas it might be nice to sort by date, subject, or sender as well, that is not an option at present. There are many ways to tweak and refine the search, but the syntax takes a bit of work to learn, and despite your best efforts, it can be tough to find exactly what you were looking for. I want you to keep this experience clearly in mind when you are tempted to suggest someone 'look in the archives' to answer a question. Even answering the simplest questions can become a nightmare search effort, especially when one doesn't know exactly what to look for. As a minimum, before telling them to make an archive search, please attempt it yourself -- and provide the search terms you found most useful. If it turns out to be more complicated than you thought, describe the steps you took, along with giving the relevant message links. Best of all, summarize and describe what you found, to give them a feel for the context *and* to add words to the archive that might aid other people's searches in the future. The idea here is, rather than send some poor soul off to assault the Great Wall of China with a teaspoon, instead give them a guided head start that lets them experience, first hand, bringing up the archive URL in their browser; typing search terms into the search box and hitting the button; and scrolling through and displaying the results to find what they need... Without having to figure it all out from scratch. I can imagine no better way to get them started learning how to help themselves! In the world of Linux geekdom, one of the worst forms of arrogance and hostility is expressed by the acronym, RTFM, which stands for Read The F***ing Manual. As an answer to a question, it is at best useless when you can't yet even find the right manual, let alone the right chapter or page. At worst, it's the kind of thoughtless and insulting response that drives people away for good. Please meet people where they're at. As you get better at using the archives, remember the learning curve you had to climb. Add in the ever present concern that someone might be stressed, fatigued, brain-fogged, in pain, or otherwise challenged by the health issues they're coming to us with, and it will be easier to remember why they might need a little more help than they ought to. I've been dreaming up a few suggestions to make to the archive folks to improve the interface, as well as thinking about how I can supplement the search facility via our own web pages. If you have ideas or suggestions based on your experience, please contribute them. Thank you for all the help and sharing that goes on here. You do good work, folks. Be well! Mike Devour siver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSweeteners , Agave ingredients, chemical processing, mislabelling . . .
Wow, Kirsteen, thanks for that link. I haven't used Agave Nectar, but I would have if I could have got it, and did even think of sending overseas for some. I have even been known to recommend it based on my reading. It's made from the roots, though, not from any part that could qualify to be called nectar; the real traditional product is apparently very expensive, and only a little can be produced. Just read about the chemical processes used in its manufacture - this is a major disappointment. The other information is also stunning. Sally Fallon Morell and Rami Nagel are the authors. Quite jaw-dropping. Here are some quotes: There can be no debate about the fact that both sugar and HFCS, with their empty, depleting, addictive calories, are bad for you. But the real question is whether HFCS is actually worse for you—more depleting and more damaging— than ordinary sugar. The research indicates that it is. Glucose enters the cells through the action of insulin; fructose enters the cells through the action of something called a Glut-5 transporter, which does not depend on insulin. This transporter is absent from pancreatic B-cells and the brain, which indicates limited entry of fructose into these tissues. Glucose provides “satiety” signals to the brain that fructose cannot provide because it is not transported into the brain. However, most of the fructose in fruit is in the form of L-fructose or levulose; the fructose in HFCS is a different isomer, D-fructose the fructose in HFCS is therefore not recognized in the human Krebs cycle for primary conversion to blood glucose in any significant quantity, and therefore cannot be used for energy utilization.^13 Instead, these refined fructose sweeteners are primarily converted into triglycerides and adipose tissue (body fat). . obese people who drank a fructose-sweetened beverage with a meal had triglyceride levels almost 200 percent higher than obese people who drank a glucose-sweetened beverage with a meal. the agave nectar purchased in stores is neither of these traditional foods: “Agave nectar is a newly created sweetener, having been developed during the 1990’s. agave “nectar” is not made from the sap of the yucca or agave plant but from the starch of the giant pineapple-like, root bulb. The principal constituent of the agave root is starch, similar to the starch in corn or rice, and a complex carbohydrate called inulin, which is made up of chains of fructose molecules.. the refined fructose in agave nectar is much more concentrated than the fructose in HFCS. For comparison, the high fructose corn syrup used in sodas is 55 percent refined fructose. (A natural agave product does exist in Mexico, a molasses type of syrup from concentrated plant nectar, but availability is limited and it is expensive to produce.)... agave “nectar” and HFCS “are indeed made the same way, using a highly chemical process with genetically modified enzymes. They are also using caustic acids, clarifiers, filtration chemicals and so forth in the conversion of agave starches.” “Corn syrup treated with enzymes to enhance the fructose levels is to be labeled ‘High Fructose Corn Syrup.’” According to Mr. Stutsman, agave requires the label “hydrolyzed inulin syrup.”^37 Even though, like corn, agave is a starch and fiber food processed with enzymes, it does not require the label “High Fructose Agave Syrup.” Agave “nectar” is a misnomer; at the very least, it should be labeled “agave syrup.” The industry describes saponins in agave syrup as beneficial:... the truth is that the saponins found in many varieties of agave plants are toxic steroid derivatives, capable of disrupting red blood cells and producing diarrhea and vomiting,^39 . to be avoided during pregnancy or breastfeeding because they might cause or contribute to miscarriage by stimulating blood flow to the uterus.^40 ...At the very least, agave products should carry a warning label indicating that the product may cause a miscarriage. Clever marketing has led mane consumers to believe that the high level of fructose in agave syrup makes it a safe and a natural sweetener. ... Agave syrup labels do not conform to FDA labeling requirements, thus deepening the false illusion of an unprocessed product.. . As we have demonstrated here, if a sweetener contains manufactured fructose, it is neither safe, nor natural, especially at levels up to 70 percent. Agave syrup is a manmade sweetener which has been through a complicated chemical refining process of enzymatic digestion that converts the starch and fiber into the unbound, manmade chemical fructose. While high fructose agave syrup won’t spike your blood glucose levels, the fructose in it may cause mineral depletion, liver inflammation, hardening of the arteries, insulin resistance leading to diabetes, high blood pressure,
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Oh my goodness! Now I'm back to the no supplements thing because of upsetting the balance of things! I've just bought a tub of sodium ascorbate as well! dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:10, Louise Larabie wrote: It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the synthetic ascorbic acid. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!! But you do not also not gain vitality. Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!! Louise -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSarchives
No--I found loads of info about liver cleanses, but not the one which mentioned the name of the capsules. Shame--perhaps someone will recognise themselves and re-post though. dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 09:05, M. G. Devour wrote: I say Mike, I am mightily impressed with those archives! So easy to use and clear. Way to go Mike! dee I'm glad you're enjoying 'em, Dee. grin Were you able to find the liver cleanse info yet? I tried, but it was being kind of obtuse. Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave
We are now looking to avoid Agave products in this house. We have recently found that it has been the cause of my daughter becoming ravenous with hunger all the time and gaining quite a bit of weight. Deborah - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:52 AM Subject: Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:37 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/27/2010 4:17:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kenancy2...@yahoo.com writes: Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, bar none. i used to think Agave Nectar was fantastic but this article by Weston Price has really made me think again. I avoid it now. http://www.westonaprice.org/Agave-Nectar-Worse-Than-We-Thought.html Cheers Kirsteen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2712 - Release Date: 02/26/10 14:39:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 02:34:00
Re: CSQuestion
..that they need to go back to public school and pay detention this time? [Where they learned that in the first place ? ] Time to eat lunch using my Arsenic-ware fork. Born with an Arsenic spoon in my mouth. Life was handed to me on an Arsenic Platter. Every cloud has an Arsenic lining. That Silver tounged Devil tells of lies ...that Arsenic tonged Angel reeks the spoof. Ode At 11:20 AM 2/27/2010 -0500, you wrote: Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you say to people like that? Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Master??
So long as you use pure silver and pure water, there are no photo-reactive compounds made and you can run batches in direct sunlight...and... use a strip of black tape or some paint to make the sun stir it. Ode At 04:18 PM 2/27/2010 +, you wrote: I have a Silver Puppy and I *always* brew in the light and I always get clear CS! The Colloid Master sounds a bit complicated for me - I don't get any crud (or at least, not enough to mention.) dee On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:50, Pat wrote: My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then turns off totally when it's finished. The red light stays on to indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more. I keep it in the dining room, so don't look at it often. It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars. The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5. The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on. It eats them up, too, sometimes. I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it very often. My daughter loves her Silver Puppy. My Colloid Master said to not brew in the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver Puppy. Does light during brewing make a difference? Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
So how many benefited from Vioxx that may have died without it, compared to those that died with it? [I dunno, but that's not the point] Absolutism is just not part of reality...there is never just one answer. [But it does make self defense very expensive for a drug company when lawyers prosecute on absolutist terms using absolutist juries ] The doctor is required to inform of risks...to the best of his knowledge. Nothing is free of risk. It's ALL Relative risk vs probable benefit A doubled risk of heart attack, stroke and death persisted at least a year after people stopped taking withdrawn painkiller Vioxx ..which means what? Double WHAT risk? Does that mean 1 in 10,000 turns into 2 in 10,000 ? The eight researchers reported in The Lancet that in the year after the 2,587-patient study was halted, 34 people who had taken Vioxx and 18 who had taken placebo suffered a heart attack, for a 94 percent higher risk with Vioxx; strokes occurred in 19 Vioxx users and nine people on placebo, for a risk slightly more than double. Altogether, 76 Vioxx users and 46 placebo takers had a heart attack, stroke, blood clot or died during that follow-up year. So, if you have Arthritis, your risk may be higher of stroke and Vioxx doubles that, but Vioxx is only part of the whole problem where WHY you are using it plays a role. According to the study the risk is 1% if you used it and .6 % if you didn't with the reason for doing so in common and not using it doesn't mean you won't have a stoke in a year. If it actually does reduce pain and reduces other risks like gastrointestinal inflammation over older anti-inflammatory drugs and could also prevent recurrence of colon cancer compared to other pain killers...is that risk acceptable compared to another risk of colon cancer coming back or getting a stomach ulcer? Aspirin is a derivative of a natural substance and the death toll record from using it isn't clean...yet, it's pretty safe, but not as safe as marijuana which does have a clean record, yet is illegal.[in most places] Aspirin is touted to prevent stroke etc, but also may harm your stomach. What if you used less Vioxx with less Aspirin ? Second hand smoke kills and is bad, yet riding a bus exposes you to the same air born carcinogens spewed out in volumes far greater in a minute than a smoker will exhale over his entire shortened lifetime... and that's OK. You'd be safer walking down wind of the smoker...and maybe get hit my the bus. No matter what you do, you can die. Take the lettuce industry: 5 people get sick and the entire crop is recalled and thrown away even though 10,000 people didn't get sick. How can they stay in business? Do you really want to eliminate your ability to buy lettuce or make it 50 times the price? Can the same thing happen if you grow your own lettuce? Sure it can. But the odds are very low still and there is no one to sue. ..not to mention that lettuce has a compound in it similar to Opium which has killed many many people, but has also saved many many people from suffering intolerable pain. The logic is that automobiles should be outlawed because, despite being useful in most cases, some people die in them and even though they know they can be deadly, people take them to work and some don't make it there...and they sometimes kill pedestrians who are avoiding the risks of driving. Don't eat lettuce ! It has Opium in it ! ...and you made all the deer and rabbits into junkies by growing it without using razor wire electric fences to cut them to ribbons and shock the crap out of them for their own good. So MJ Fox has the shakes and he drinks Diet Coke. Would he have the shakes if he didn't? There's no way to know. Many people that shake have never touched Diet Coke. How many people swill down that nasty tasting stuff like water and don't get the shakes? Does Aspertame cause something, or does it merely contribute to another cause..or is it just happenstance being lumped into a myth and called the absolute unavoidable truth when only one in a million people fit the stats for who knows what actual combination of reasons ? NOTHING is absolutely harmless...not even plain water. Ode At 05:30 PM 2/27/2010 +, you wrote: I *can* see most of that Ode, but I do think that if there is a possibility that a substance that is sold as harmless - or even beneficial - is *not* then people should have the knowledge given to them, so that they can make an informed choice. After all, you or I could drink this with impunity, but there may be others who - if they had been given the information - may not have gotten sick if they had known that it could have had that effect. For instance, the thousands of people who died from taking Vioxx - if they had been told that this was a possibility - would they have still taken it? Some may 'because the doctor said,' but some might not haveand they would still be alive
Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling
If your silver water has live bacteria in it, all is pointless. The blood has much larger particles in it than .22 microns [ up to 15 microns?] I think a 10 micron particle will settle out of CSW [EIS]...probably anything over about 1-3 microns. I'd be more concerned about what injecting distilled water does...like, localized dilution of saline balances...what's the tolerable range for that? Ode At 10:23 AM 2/27/2010 -0600, you wrote: New sterile syringes and needles can easily be had from online pet/livestock/vet supply houses. Many states, you can buy them at feed stores and other livestock/farm supply houses like Orsclens. If you make up your own stuff, one good safe guard is to run all solutions through syringe type micro filters at a .22 micron filter to remove particulates and bacteria. Asceptic condtions should be religously thrived for! doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
I have just dug deeper and the Vitamin C Foundation actually refute this article Louise. They printed it but show in another article that it is WRONG. I believe Brooks Bradley has also done a lot of research involving ascorbic acid with much success also. They say that the work done by Linus Pauling is correct and that ascorbic acid *is* Vitamin C. Please ignore my hysterical post below--sanity has returned! dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 17:13, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Oh my goodness! Now I'm back to the no supplements thing because of upsetting the balance of things! I've just bought a tub of sodium ascorbate as well! dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:10, Louise Larabie wrote: It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the synthetic ascorbic acid. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!! But you do not also not gain vitality. Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!! Louise -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSweeteners , Agave ingredients, chemical processing, mislabelling . . .
At 09:14 AM 2/28/2010, you wrote: Glucose enters the cells through the action of insulin; fructose enters the cells through the action of something called a Glut-5 transporter, which does not depend on insulin. This transporter is absent from pancreatic B-cells and the brain, which indicates limited entry of fructose into these tissues. Glucose provides satiety signals to the brain that fructose cannot provide because it is not transported into the brain. However, most of the fructose in fruit is in the form of L-fructose or levulose; It goes on to state that diabetics can safely consume some fruit. I believe Dr. Bernstein disagrees with that. I am going to re-read his books to see what he says about fructose in general and fructose in fruit. But meantime, I believe he does not consider fruit safe for diabetics in general, and I remember seeing him quoted somewhere as saying he had not eaten a piece of fruit in 30 some years. So anyone here who is diabetic, and now thinks fruit is safe might want to read his books before diving into the oranges and apples. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
At 10:40 AM 2/28/2010, you wrote: I have just dug deeper and the Vitamin C Foundation actually refute this article Louise. They printed it but show in another article that it is WRONG. I believe Brooks Bradley has also done a lot of research involving ascorbic acid with much success also. They say that the work done by Linus Pauling is correct and that ascorbic acid *is* Vitamin C. Please ignore my hysterical post below--sanity has returned! dee Not to mention the fact that all mammals who make their own vit C in house make ascorbic acid, not natural vit C with bioflavonoids. That is the convincer for me. Vit C IS ascorbic acid. Add bioflavonoids if you wish..you can purchase ascorbic acid that is not from China, but it is very expensive, there are links to it on the vit C foundation site. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion
Good one! Donna ACS ..that they need to go back to public school and pay detention this time? [Where they learned that in the first place ? ] Time to eat lunch using my Arsenic-ware fork. Born with an Arsenic spoon in my mouth. Life was handed to me on an Arsenic Platter. Every cloud has an Arsenic lining. That Silver tounged Devil tells of lies ...that Arsenic tonged Angel reeks the spoof. Ode At 11:20 AM 2/27/2010 -0500, you wrote: Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you say to people like that? Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
Well I suppose if we all thought like that, then we wouldn't bother to make CS either! There wouldn't be any point, because we could just go and take the anti-biotics the doctor gives us as they may or may not, kill us, but hey - who cares - we are going to die of something anyway! dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 15:05, Ode Coyote wrote: So how many benefited from Vioxx that may have died without it, compared to those that died with it? [I dunno, but that's not the point] Absolutism is just not part of reality...there is never just one answer. [But it does make self defense very expensive for a drug company when lawyers prosecute on absolutist terms using absolutist juries ] The doctor is required to inform of risks...to the best of his knowledge. Nothing is free of risk. It's ALL Relative risk vs probable benefit A doubled risk of heart attack, stroke and death persisted at least a year after people stopped taking withdrawn painkiller Vioxx ..which means what? Double WHAT risk? Does that mean 1 in 10,000 turns into 2 in 10,000 ? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling
I have one of your CS machines and it seems to produce particulate matter floating around. Not sure why and I don't think it is any thing bad or serious from an oral standpoint, but I would not want to inject these particulates into my bloodstream even if there are larger natural particles in the blood stream. I think a filter is a good idea. Oh, I use pure high quality distilled water and still get this stuff forming. No, I am not very worried about not injecting a physiological saline solution at all. There are far worse things to inject than straight water. doug - Original Message - If your silver water has live bacteria in it, all is pointless. The blood has much larger particles in it than .22 microns [ up to 15 microns?] I think a 10 micron particle will settle out of CSW [EIS]...probably anything over about 1-3 microns. I'd be more concerned about what injecting distilled water does...like, localized dilution of saline balances...what's the tolerable range for that? Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave
Hi, I purchased mine from Amazon.com, the cheapest I found. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=agave Also, this stuff is delicious. Orrilia From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 8:00:59 PM Subject: Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave In a message dated 2/27/2010 6:41:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, squigg...@embarqmail.com writes: Try Trader Joe's Never heard of Trader Joe's--Did a search--- no Trader Joe's around here in upstate NY. Lois __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling
The CS I injected was filtered through a fine screen, and was clear to the naked eye. It was made with distilled water. An injection of 20-30 cc at one time was never any problem, other than to the lyme critters. Dick - Original Message From: polo dah...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 2:23:46 PM Subject: Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling I have one of your CS machines and it seems to produce particulate matter floating around. Not sure why and I don't think it is any thing bad or serious from an oral standpoint, but I would not want to inject these particulates into my bloodstream even if there are larger natural particles in the blood stream. I think a filter is a good idea. Oh, I use pure high quality distilled water and still get this stuff forming. No, I am not very worried about not injecting a physiological saline solution at all. There are far worse things to inject than straight water. doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTransverse Myelitis
http://www.myelitis.org/tm.htm My sister-in-law was diagnosed last year with Transverse Myelitis. The symptoms are losing the sensation of touch in her hands and feet and as it worsens her entire legs. Also a girdle like pressure around the abdomen and loss of feeling when she needs to use the restroom which leads to severe abdominal pain. They got rid of most of the symptoms with steroid IVs last year, but now, only 6 months later the symptoms are coming back quickly. Has anyone on this list had experience with this condition and/or anything similar? Looks like it is one of those inflammatory auto-immune disorders that can do severely impair one's ability to function. Last time she lost her ability to use her hands, and even had difficulty walking. Any info./suggestions is appreciated, Thanks! Tara Tara McClintick http://www.booksbytara.com www.booksbytara.com
Re: CSBuffered MMS answer from Tom
Hello Renee, Since MSM has a sulphur component and chlorine dioxide scrubs sulphur from the air and in solutions, I would guess that the MSM us being oxidized by the chlorine dioxide. Unfortunately, I am not set up to test for residual MSM, so I can't fully answer the question. Roy's success may be due to some extra MSM being left over after the chlorine dioxide in the solution is used up. The MMS protocol does not produce an efficient chlorous acid solution due to the excess activation. It appears that some of the chlorine dioxide may be used up by the excess citric acid in the solution. Tom - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: CSBuffered MMS answer from Tom I passed your info on and this came back, Tom. Samala, Renee
CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
http://www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html thanks for the link. I really believe the only thing Agave has got going for it is an extremely clever advertising campaign. Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSTransverse Myelitis
Low dose naltrexone (LDN) has shown to be effective against Transverse Myelitis and autoimmune diseases in general. - Steve N From: Tara McClintick tmcclint...@fuse.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun Feb 28 15:51:00 2010 Subject: CSTransverse Myelitis http://www.myelitis.org/tm.htm My sister-in-law was diagnosed last year with Transverse Myelitis. The symptoms are losing the sensation of touch in her hands and feet and as it worsens her entire legs. Also a girdle like pressure around the abdomen and loss of feeling when she needs to use the restroom which leads to severe abdominal pain. They got rid of most of the symptoms with steroid IVs last year, but now, only 6 months later the symptoms are coming back quickly. Has anyone on this list had experience with this condition and/or anything similar? Looks like it is one of those inflammatory auto-immune disorders that can do severely impair one’s ability to function. Last time she lost her ability to use her hands, and even had difficulty walking. Any info./suggestions is appreciated, Thanks! Tara Tara McClintick www.booksbytara.com http://www.booksbytara.com
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave
Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:37 PM, zzekel...@aol.com mailto:zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/27/2010 4:17:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kenancy2...@yahoo.com mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com writes: Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, bar none. Personally I use Stevia, and some xylitol. Stevia can be put in drinks, vanilla flavored whipping cream to make a dessert topping for fruit, or frozen to make a natural ice cream. I also use it to sweeten desserts since I'm off sugar. The amounts have to carefully monitored, as it can be bitter if used too strong. Some people think it lowers their blood pressure as well. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgave is a cactus
Agave is a processed cactus, it grows wild in Arizona Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 3:13:49 PM Subject: Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you? On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html thanks for the link. I really believe the only thing Agave has got going for it is an extremely clever advertising campaign. Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
Unlike corn syrup, blue Agave syrup does not cause my wife to have three days of severe migraines. So, I'm happy to use it to make home-made chili sauce, ketchup and so on since it is near impossible to find those things without corn syrup. I'm not a raw food person, so whether this stuff is considered 'raw' or 'cooked' is of no significance to me. A friend of mine has suggested a number of times that a raw food diet might help my wife's migraines become manageable. She specifically suggested going to the Creative Health Institute in Union City here in Michigan. I found their website at http://www.creativehealthinstitute.com/ and forwarded it to my wife for her perusal. She was thinking that this might be worth exploring, but when she started reading about wheat grass enemas, that pretty much ended that discussion. I'm not commenting taking issue with the raw food approach, either negatively or positively. Just that the enema thing was a big hangup for my wife. Cheers. --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com Subject: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you? To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 5:09 PM http://www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: She was thinking that this might be worth exploring, but when she started reading about wheat grass enemas, that pretty much ended that discussion. LOL Yeah I can quite understand. I've been following a mostly raw food diet for several months now and have really found that's helped. But don't worry, an awful lot of raw foodists, including myself, feel just like your wife and don't do enemas. Several do use them and appear to find them helpful but I'm afraid I balk at the idea. You can tell her it's perfectly possible to follow a hihg raw diet without the enemas. Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSRisk of Drugs
- Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:05 AM Subject: Re: CSRisk of Drugs Vioxx was withdrawn because it killed thousands of people. This was the only reason it *was* withdrawn, because if it had been just a few hundred, then it would never have come to the publics notice. Just a few hundred you might say - pity if you happen to be one of them! dee On 27 Feb 2010, at 19:18, Pat wrote: I'd heard that there was an increase in risk with Vioxx and then Bextra, but the risk seemed very slight. I would have been willing to sign a release to be able to continue using it. The issue was quality of life. It's sometimes worth more risk to be able to have a decent life. My orthopaedic surgeon said he thought the risk was very slight and said he'd given his Bextra samples to his mother when they took it off the market. The same goes for hormones. Continue a satisfying relationship with the hubby, keep him happy at home and enjoy the closeness or possibly lose interest or ability. Definitely worth a little added risk for much increased quality of life. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
Steve, Have you considered acupuncture for your wife's migraines? It can be curative for those. Bob - Original Message - From: Steve G To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you? Unlike corn syrup, blue Agave syrup does not cause my wife to have three days of severe migraines. So, I'm happy to use it to make home-made chili sauce, ketchup and so on since it is near impossible to find those things without corn syrup. I'm not a raw food person, so whether this stuff is considered 'raw' or 'cooked' is of no significance to me. A friend of mine has suggested a number of times that a raw food diet might help my wife's migraines become manageable. She specifically suggested going to the Creative Health Institute in Union City here in Michigan. I found their website at http://www.creativehealthinstitute.com/ and forwarded it to my wife for her perusal. She was thinking that this might be worth exploring, but when she started reading about wheat grass enemas, that pretty much ended that discussion. I'm not commenting taking issue with the raw food approach, either negatively or positively. Just that the enema thing was a big hangup for my wife. Cheers. --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com Subject: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you? To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 5:09 PM http://www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
RE: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Uhhh You'd best read the whole page in your link... The rebuttals and comments are more convincing than the sales promotion. Chuck I asked her her name. She said, 'It's Pataka.' I said, 'That's an unusual name. You don't hear that every day.' To which she replied, 'Actually, I do.' On 2/28/2010 8:10:55 AM, Louise Larabie (louis...@gozoom.ca) wrote: It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the synthetic ascorbic acid. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!! But you do not also not gain vitality. Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. And Ascorbic acid is not equal to vit C!!! Louise On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote: I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the HF US cleaner. This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram. BUT I believe he claims only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a no-brainer. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Dee, I've been a C freak since Pauling first book on it in the seventies, so I've seen great benefit all that time. I'm excited about Brook's process for Lipo C because it gives us a way to approximate IV treatment with super dosages. My approach is semi-cautious in that my plan is to do this once a week and observe. Google vitamin C and IV It's too early to draw any conclusions except that the method is feasable. My regular daily dose will continue as is. I continue to be a clinical study of one... Chuck Jeffrey Darmer is a smoker. They found a pile of butts in his house! On 2/28/2010 7:37:00 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Have you had any benefits from this Chuck? dee On 19 Feb 2010, at 00:21, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Dee, As a personal experiment, dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water... Taste it. Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade? Put it in a blender... add a tablespoon of lecithin granules... Blend for at least a full minute... Taste it. Much milder? If so, add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more... Taste it... Still mild? Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be palatable. Bowel tolerance is also improved. Up to your individual tolerance, of course. The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level. I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough. Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: For me it is -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[List Owner] Archive Etiquette
Damn, It's guys like you, Odie, and Marshall that make me a better person (than I was)... Chuck Jeffrey Dahmers Cookbook: Shortcuts to becoming a Head Chef. On 2/28/2010 4:53:27 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: Hi folks, I've been meaning to post a message on how we use the archives when helping each other and new people. I imagine that most of you that have used -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgave Syrup, is it good for you?
Hi Steve, An easier step for your wife, if she hasn't already tried it, would be to just get off the grains. My wife suffered badly and they cleared up with a couple of weeks and haven't returned, as long as she stays away from the grains. FWIW, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Chuck, Have you ever tried to liposome any other nutrients? I want to try, especially, with Glutathione. But don't know how. Do you have any suggestion? Wazir On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Dee, As a personal experiment, dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water... Taste it. Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade? Put it in a blender... add a tablespoon of lecithin granules... Blend for at least a full minute... Taste it. Much milder? If so, add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more... Taste it... Still mild? Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be palatable. Bowel tolerance is also improved. Up to your individual tolerance, of course. The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level. I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough. Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the postage is $28! I asked them why they don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the only one they will use. A real shame. I buy from iHerb lots of things and they use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4! DHL only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant! Trouble is, they don't stock the liposomal stuff! dee On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote: I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the HF US cleaner. This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram. BUT I believe he claims only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a no-brainer. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Dee, You'd best get yourself a whiplash collar. All that thrashing about is going to do yourself a mischief (loved that phrase). Chuck Jeffrey's favorite recipes: Baked Alaskan. On 2/28/2010 12:40:45 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: I have just dug deeper and the Vitamin C Foundation actually refute this article Louise. They printed it but show in another article that it is WRONG. I believe Brooks Bradley has also done a lot of research involving ascorbic acid with much success also. They say that the work done by Linus Pauling is correct and that ascorbic acid *is* Vitamin C. Please ignore my hysterical post below--sanity has returned! dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 17:13, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Oh my goodness! Now I'm back to the no supplements thing because of upsetting the balance of things! I've just bought a tub of sodium ascorbate as well! dee On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:10, Louise Larabie wrote: It might give one more vitality if real vit C was use rather than the synthetic ascorbic acid. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350 can not even cure scurvy with high doses of ascorbic acid!! But you do not also not gain vitality. Personally I would not use ascorbic acid as it does not IMO improve your health (and 80% is made in China to boot) that is why it is so cheap. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Alan, What is that cheaper source of LET Vitamin C that you are talking about? And how cheap is it? Wazir On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Dee, As a personal experiment, dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water... Taste it. Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade? Put it in a blender... add a tablespoon of lecithin granules... Blend for at least a full minute... Taste it. Much milder? If so, add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more... Taste it... Still mild? Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be palatable. Bowel tolerance is also improved. Up to your individual tolerance, of course. The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level. I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough. Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. On 2/18/2010 1:42:56 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: For me it is too expensive though, as the Vit C is only $20 but the postage is $28! I asked them why they don't use a less expensive carrier than USPS but they say that is the only one they will use. A real shame. I buy from iHerb lots of things and they use DHL which is $12 and an International company which is only $4! DHL only take three days to get it here to the UK as well. Brilliant! Trouble is, they don't stock the liposomal stuff! dee On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:35, Alan Jones wrote: I haven't tried this new source yet but I'm considering it, and I have the HF US cleaner. This new C is about 30 cents per gram, and BB claims the homemade stuff is about 15 cents per gram. BUT I believe he claims only 50-75 percent is encapsulated; if 50 percent then the pre-made stuff is a no-brainer. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Nope Others are trying different stuff though... Stay tuned... Chuck Jeffrey Dahmers Cookbook: A Farewell to Arms. On 2/28/2010 8:12:37 PM, Kina Ghos (kina...@gmail.com) wrote: Chuck, Have you ever tried to liposome any other nutrients? I want to try, especially, with Glutathione. But don't know how. Do you have any suggestion? Wazir On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com [link: mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] wrote: Dee, As a personal experiment, dissolve a teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water... Taste it. Pretty much sour as unsweetened lemonade? Put it in a blender... add a tablespoon of lecithin granules... Blend for at least a full minute... Taste it. Much milder? If so, add another teaspoon of C powder, and blend some more... Taste it... Still mild? Here is a way of getting large amounts of C into you and still be palatable. Bowel tolerance is also improved. Up to your individual tolerance, of course. The ultrasonic cleaner method takes this to another level. I've done 50 grams of ascorbic acid before I decided it was enough. Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver and Duodenal ulcers
Will EIS help or heal duodenal ulcers? If so, how much is recommended? Josh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
