CS> Adding salt to CS

[Phil Morrison]

 Several comments of late have suggested
 adding salt (NaCl) to colloidal silver.   This
 is a bad idea, and totally counterproductive.

 The silver ion in CS reacts with the chloride
 ion in salt to form insoluble silver chloride (AgCl).
 One can see this by adding salt solution to CS
 and observe slight clouding as AgCl
 precipitates.   The beneficial Ag ion has been
 totally removed from the CS by adding salt.

 The AgCl formed by addition to salt to CS is a
 bad actor, and should not be applied to skin
 or inhaled.   Definitely not inhaled.

 Use only natural CS for best results.

Re: CS>Fixing Hyper/Hypothyroidism without drugs

[V]

I agree

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On Mar 14, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

I don’t think that is a very nice thing to say as people love their animals 
very much and should be afforded sympathy and respect.  I understand what you 
are saying and have some sympathy with your view, but I think you could have 
expressed it with a bit more humanity….dee


> On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:40, Evan Jones  wrote:
> 
> <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Evan. There's a lot of info to digest here. A couple of  things.
>>  1 - a protocol of detox is needed this time - specifically for a
>>  feline. Small animal medicine.
> 
> You mean I spent 2 hours writing this post for a bloody CAT?
> 
>> We have now officially removed
>> ourselves from conventional veterinary practice after thousands upon
>> thousands of dollars were thrown at the them for absolutely no
>> relief. So now we do things the better way.
> 
> Do give up on the vet yet. That cat is suffering; it is in bad shape.
> 1. Take the cat back to the vet ASAP
> 2. Have it put down
> 3. Go to the SPCA and get a new one.
> 
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Re: CS>Fixing Hyper/Hypothyroidism without drugs

[Ron]

Still an awful lot of research and time and humanity went into the 
original email was not properly appreciated.


On 3/14/2016 3:46 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I don’t think that is a very nice thing to say as people love their animals 
very much and should be afforded sympathy and respect.  I understand what you 
are saying and have some sympathy with your view, but I think you could have 
expressed it with a bit more humanity….dee



On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:40, Evan Jones  wrote:

<2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Evan. There's a lot of info to digest here. A couple of  things.
   1 - a protocol of detox is needed this time - specifically for a
   feline. Small animal medicine.

You mean I spent 2 hours writing this post for a bloody CAT?


We have now officially removed
ourselves from conventional veterinary practice after thousands upon
thousands of dollars were thrown at the them for absolutely no
relief. So now we do things the better way.

Do give up on the vet yet. That cat is suffering; it is in bad shape.
1. Take the cat back to the vet ASAP
2. Have it put down
3. Go to the SPCA and get a new one.


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Re: CS>Fixing Hyper/Hypothyroidism without drugs

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I don’t think that is a very nice thing to say as people love their animals 
very much and should be afforded sympathy and respect.  I understand what you 
are saying and have some sympathy with your view, but I think you could have 
expressed it with a bit more humanity….dee


> On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:40, Evan Jones  wrote:
> 
> <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Evan. There's a lot of info to digest here. A couple of  things.
>>   1 - a protocol of detox is needed this time - specifically for a
>>   feline. Small animal medicine.
> 
> You mean I spent 2 hours writing this post for a bloody CAT?
> 
>> We have now officially removed
>> ourselves from conventional veterinary practice after thousands upon
>> thousands of dollars were thrown at the them for absolutely no
>> relief. So now we do things the better way.
> 
> Do give up on the vet yet. That cat is suffering; it is in bad shape.
> 1. Take the cat back to the vet ASAP
> 2. Have it put down
> 3. Go to the SPCA and get a new one.
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Lipo C - Question

[Dee]

I used a little sonic cleaner for mine but was never sure it worked right.  
Since then, I have read many respected sources about the dangers of 
polyunsaturated fats so stopped making it.  I presume that lecithin of either 
variety comes into that category, so I've now just gone to Wholefood vitamin 
CDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:27, Max  wrote:
> 
> I think it was Brooks Bradley who spearheaded the homemade lipo C. I believe 
> he had the microscope to show home made was about equal quality to 
> commercial.  Brooks seems high integrity.Of course, thats a first pass 
> judgementhome made may be worse, equal or even better than commercial 
> lipo.   What we dont know is if simple micelles are as good or better than 
> lipo, or even if coconut oil and C is as good.   The tests arent in.   
> Commercial ultrasonication can create a whole new chemistry with its powerful 
> machines.   This chemistry would have to proven superior for whatever reason. 
>  Im talking mainly about the chemistry of ultra sonic cavitation bubbles 
> which can reach 5000 deg and huge pressures.   Remember that one is always 
> relying on and being swayed by profit minded commercial hype
> 
> Start simple, say blending in a blender, then invest in a course of 
> commercially made lipo and see if you can feel a difference.   In my mind, 
> getting high quality lecithin is more important than lipo size and quantity, 
> since 99% of it is digested at the gut brush border, one way or the other
> 
>> On 3/13/2016 5:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> apparently the home-made item is NOT the same as the one made by Live-On 
>> labs, whose scientists have tested it.  I can’t see why they would lie 
>> because they would be found out easily I would have thought.  Also 
>> apparently, Dr Mercola (who I respect) makes a liposome vitamin C which is 
>> again, NOT liposomal at all.  dee
>> 
>>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:24, Ron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds right to me. If he can be so wrong about IV C then his credibility 
>>> is pretty much shot.
>>> Even Dr. Mercola is on the the bandwagon with Liposomal D. But then, 
>>> although Mercola does have a lot of good info, he seems to be  primarily 
>>> engaged in marketing.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSCv5_41j88
>>> Mercola shows in detail how he says it works but offers no study to back it 
>>> up.
>>> 
 On 3/10/2016 9:10 AM, Max wrote:
 I like Levy.that said, if you look at the studies, only perhaps 1% of 
 liposomes get through intact.  The ones that do are quickly attacked by 
 the immune system.  Liposomes delivering their contents to cells by direct 
 'melding' is a myth.A 5x or greater absorption effeciency is also a 
 myth.  So we are left with the anecdotal evidence that liposome C  works 
 wonders.   Note that Levy DOES in fact promote the Livon product.  My 
 feeling is that adding lecithin to vitamin C in a blender allows 
 essentially the same digestion and biological effect.   Ive tried both and 
 can tell no difference.   For me, the main thing is getting the really 
 good lecithen.  I cant stand the regular soy stuff.  There is also 
 evidence it isnt healthy.  Organic sunflower lecithin seems to be the 
 ticket.   The secret to absorbing a lot of Vit C is taking it at short 
 intervals.Vit C loading of the body by IV  is many, many times greater 
 than by liposome C.This is perhaps Levy's most egregious error
 
> On 3/10/2016 8:14 AM, Ron wrote:
> Thank you for mentioning Liposomal. I have never heard of it before.
> 
> Exposing the truth about liposomal nutrients [FAVORABLE]
> http://www.peakenergy.com/articles/nh20140411/Exposing-the-truth-about-liposomal-nutrients/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/8/2016 10:48 PM, mk wrote:
>> Is there a bare minimum ultrasonic unit I can get on ebay that will do 
>> the job other than Freight Harbor? They're basically all made in China - 
>> so am looking at those right now.
>> 
>> And - why would lipo vitamin c be the better option for someone with 
>> kidney/liver issues?
>> 
>> Thanks - Joy
>> 
>> 
>>
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Re: CS>Lipo C - Question

[Dee]

Thinking about it, homemade covers a very broad spectrum ie it depends WHO made 
it and how they made it I suppose.  I mean, it is not going to be as uniform as 
that made in LiveOns own facility.  I do know that Mercola s has been 
independently tested and proved to be not liposomal which someone on his 
website admitted.  He was challenged to explain but never did.  Trouble is, I 
can't remember who instigated it but it was LiveOn who tested itDee

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> On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:27, Max  wrote:
> 
> I think it was Brooks Bradley who spearheaded the homemade lipo C. I believe 
> he had the microscope to show home made was about equal quality to 
> commercial.  Brooks seems high integrity.Of course, thats a first pass 
> judgementhome made may be worse, equal or even better than commercial 
> lipo.   What we dont know is if simple micelles are as good or better than 
> lipo, or even if coconut oil and C is as good.   The tests arent in.   
> Commercial ultrasonication can create a whole new chemistry with its powerful 
> machines.   This chemistry would have to proven superior for whatever reason. 
>  Im talking mainly about the chemistry of ultra sonic cavitation bubbles 
> which can reach 5000 deg and huge pressures.   Remember that one is always 
> relying on and being swayed by profit minded commercial hype
> 
> Start simple, say blending in a blender, then invest in a course of 
> commercially made lipo and see if you can feel a difference.   In my mind, 
> getting high quality lecithin is more important than lipo size and quantity, 
> since 99% of it is digested at the gut brush border, one way or the other
> 
>> On 3/13/2016 5:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> apparently the home-made item is NOT the same as the one made by Live-On 
>> labs, whose scientists have tested it.  I can’t see why they would lie 
>> because they would be found out easily I would have thought.  Also 
>> apparently, Dr Mercola (who I respect) makes a liposome vitamin C which is 
>> again, NOT liposomal at all.  dee
>> 
>>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:24, Ron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds right to me. If he can be so wrong about IV C then his credibility 
>>> is pretty much shot.
>>> Even Dr. Mercola is on the the bandwagon with Liposomal D. But then, 
>>> although Mercola does have a lot of good info, he seems to be  primarily 
>>> engaged in marketing.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSCv5_41j88
>>> Mercola shows in detail how he says it works but offers no study to back it 
>>> up.
>>> 
 On 3/10/2016 9:10 AM, Max wrote:
 I like Levy.that said, if you look at the studies, only perhaps 1% of 
 liposomes get through intact.  The ones that do are quickly attacked by 
 the immune system.  Liposomes delivering their contents to cells by direct 
 'melding' is a myth.A 5x or greater absorption effeciency is also a 
 myth.  So we are left with the anecdotal evidence that liposome C  works 
 wonders.   Note that Levy DOES in fact promote the Livon product.  My 
 feeling is that adding lecithin to vitamin C in a blender allows 
 essentially the same digestion and biological effect.   Ive tried both and 
 can tell no difference.   For me, the main thing is getting the really 
 good lecithen.  I cant stand the regular soy stuff.  There is also 
 evidence it isnt healthy.  Organic sunflower lecithin seems to be the 
 ticket.   The secret to absorbing a lot of Vit C is taking it at short 
 intervals.Vit C loading of the body by IV  is many, many times greater 
 than by liposome C.This is perhaps Levy's most egregious error
 
> On 3/10/2016 8:14 AM, Ron wrote:
> Thank you for mentioning Liposomal. I have never heard of it before.
> 
> Exposing the truth about liposomal nutrients [FAVORABLE]
> http://www.peakenergy.com/articles/nh20140411/Exposing-the-truth-about-liposomal-nutrients/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/8/2016 10:48 PM, mk wrote:
>> Is there a bare minimum ultrasonic unit I can get on ebay that will do 
>> the job other than Freight Harbor? They're basically all made in China - 
>> so am looking at those right now.
>> 
>> And - why would lipo vitamin c be the better option for someone with 
>> kidney/liver issues?
>> 
>> Thanks - Joy
>> 
>> 
>>
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