Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-29 Thread Tony Moody
My most humble apologies to Tom.
That was aimed at Tel , not Tom.

Hmm. These numbers really do not make much sense to me.
For instance.
Dr Hulda Clarks is 132 g per litre = 132/1132 as a percentage is
11.66%.by weight of the solution. or

I'm chemistry challenged OK. but from wikipedia,
Iodine is 100%available iodine iodine;
and KI is about 77% available Iodine (130mg KI =100mg I ).
So the 44g iodine granules would yield 44g iodine
and the 88 g KI would yield 88 *0.77 = 68 g iodine.
That is a total of 112 g available iodine in 1132 g water iodine solution
= 9.89% available iodine by weight which is near enough 10%.
Or working it the other way = 112 mg/ml

So Tel, where does the pedantic 5% come from??

Or are my calculations totally incorrect?

More calcs interspersed below.

Comments are welcome. Certainly we need some clarification about Lugols
strength and dosage here.

Tony

On 29 Mar 2010 at 7:57, Tony Moody wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 Hey Tom,

 You are being a bit of a prick, I'm sorry to have to say.

 Lugols is regulated by your system to 2% for container volumes more than
 30ml, see wiki article below. .

 Further there are many different formula named Lugols. I notice that
 www.lugols.com mentions Lugols 5% and Lugols 2% and mentions the mg
 iodine per drop depending on how you hold the dropper and which % you
 have.

 Here are some formula below ; all yielding different mg/ml. Which is
 correct by your reckoning?

 OK,
 Tony

 Dr Hulda Clarke gave it as:
 44g iodine, granular
 88g potassium iodide, granular
 1 litre water.

 = 9.89% available iodine by weight or 112 mg/ml


 Medical Microbiology --Cruikshank
 10g iodine
 20g Potassium iodide
 Distilled water 1000ml

= 2.5% available iodine by weight or 25.4mg/ml


 and
 1g iodine
 2g Potassium iodide
 300ml Distilled water

=0.85% or 8.5mg/ml


 FromWikipedia:
 Formula and manufacture.
 Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide
 (KI) mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a
 total iodine content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the
 elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide
 (I3?) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions,
 which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water
 and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

 Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide);
 Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.

 Lugol's is obtained from chemists and pharmacists who are licensed to
 prepare and dispense the solution. This indicator, also called a stain,
 is used in many different fields.
 '
 '
 2007 DEA regulation in the United States
 However, effective August 1, 2007, the DEA now regulates Lugol's solution
 (and, in fact, all iodine solutions containing greater than 2.2% iodine)
 as a List I precursor because it may potentially be used in the illicit
 production of methamphetamine.[8] However, transactions of up to one
 fluid ounce (30 ml) of Lugol's solution are exempt from this regulation.
 By contrast, Lugol's iodine solution is available over the counter in
 Canada and Mexico.



 On 26 Mar 2010 at 7:26, Tel Tofflemire wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading
  misinformation  that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not
  understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it.
  Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.
  I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group
  fine!) .  But I am more of a Herbalist than that.  You should have
  thanked me for setting you straight.   The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is
  not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you
  personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's  2 % Will
  not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn.
 
   Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
 
 
  I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com
 
 
 
 
  
   From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
  Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
 
 
  Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.
   Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.
  http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
  ~~
 
 
  
   From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure
 
 
  I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
  experiment

Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-29 Thread Peter Converse
Hi Tel,

Wow, that's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing that!

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


  Thanks Peter,
  Their are a few sane and gentle people left on this site.  So Glad!
  It shouldn't matter but Dr. Jenner was Dr. Lugol's partner, they were not 
MD's but were both Dr. of Science , and working very hard on a solution that 
would sterilize their equipment after testing for a cure for several contagious
  ailments.  
  MY Point is Dr. Jenner was my mothers Grate Grandfather,  we used Lugol's  5 
% Iodine Solution, all my life and still do  and I am a few months from 70 yrs 
old. My mother never met Dr. Jenner but  My mother's Dad knew him  talked a 
lot about the German  The Frenchman working night and day together trying to 
solve that days health problems.  (They most likely did not Paten or Register 
the name Lugol's ?)
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.





--
  From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca
  To: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:23:44 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


  Hi Folks,


  I agree with Tel Tofflemire.

  It is my understanding that J. G. A. Lugol, the guy who originally came up 
with the formula, made it in a 5% solution, as mentioned below from Wikipedia. 
That being so, it makes sense that Lugol's Solution, as he made it, is only a 
5% solution. If anyone else wants to make an iodine/iodide solution using 
different amounts of its constituents that too should have benefits but could 
not be rightly called Lugol's Solution because he (Lugol) didn't make it that 
way...make sense?? Calling it a 2% iodine/iodide solution, for example, would 
be fine, in my opinion, FWIW.

  Peter

  Lugol's iodine, also known as Lugol's solution, first made in 1829, is a 
solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in water, named after the 
French physician J.G.A. Lugol. Lugol's iodine solution is often used as an 
antiseptic and disinfectant, for emergency disinfection of drinking water, and 
as a reagent for starch detection in routine laboratory and medical tests .

  It has been used more rarely to replenish iodine deficiency. [1] However, 
pure potassium iodide, containing the relatively benign iodide ion without the 
more toxic elemental iodine, is preferred for this purpose.

  Formula and manufacture
  Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.

  Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); 
Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.

  Formula and manufacture
  Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.

  Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); 
Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.








Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-29 Thread Paul Bond
My understanding was that Lugols is a ratio Between Iodine and Potassium
Iodide in water, rather than a strength, and that originally it happened
to be 5% overall strength, but the USA government later developed
strength limitations for air shipment of goods (as there's a
relationship between Potassium Iodide and the ability to make explosive
things) to 2.2%.  Not researched, Not proven, it's just how I remember
it.  If I'm wrong then I accept it completely.

Paul B

-Original Message-
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:57:23 +0200


Hey Tom,

You are being a bit of a prick, I'm sorry to have to say. 

Lugols is regulated by your system to 2% for container volumes more than 
30ml, see wiki article below. .

Further there are many different formula named Lugols. I notice that 
www.lugols.com mentions Lugols 5% and Lugols 2% and mentions the mg 
iodine per drop depending on how you hold the dropper and which % you 
have. 

Here are some formula below ; all yielding different mg/ml. Which is 
correct by your reckoning?

OK,
Tony

Dr Hulda Clarke gave it as: 
44g iodine, granular 
88g potassium iodide, granular 
1 litre water.

Medical Microbiology --Cruikshank 
10g iodine
20g Potassium iodide
Distilled water 1000ml

and 
1g iodine
2g Potassium iodide
300ml Distilled water 

FromWikipedia:
Formula and manufacture.
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide 
(KI) mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a 
total iodine content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the 
elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide 
(I3?) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, 
which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water 
and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.  

Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); 
Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.  

Lugol's is obtained from chemists and pharmacists who are licensed to 
prepare and dispense the solution. This indicator, also called a stain, 
is used in many different fields.  
'
'
2007 DEA regulation in the United States
However, effective August 1, 2007, the DEA now regulates Lugol's solution 
(and, in fact, all iodine solutions containing greater than 2.2% iodine) 
as a List I precursor because it may potentially be used in the illicit 
production of methamphetamine.[8] However, transactions of up to one 
fluid ounce (30 ml) of Lugol's solution are exempt from this regulation. 
By contrast, Lugol's iodine solution is available over the counter in 
Canada and Mexico.



On 26 Mar 2010 at 7:26, Tel Tofflemire wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

   Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading
 misinformation  that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not
 understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it.
 Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals. 
 I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group
 fine!) .  But I am more of a Herbalist than that.  You should have
 thanked me for setting you straight.   The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is
 not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you
 personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's  2 % Will
 not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn. 
 
  Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
 Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
 
 
 I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
 Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
 
 
 Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. 
  Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ. 
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 ~~
 
 
 
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure
 
 
 I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
 experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
 It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
 than coffee.
 Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ. 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones
 
  
 I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water 
 out

Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-28 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Thanks Peter,
Their are a few sane and gentle people left on this site.  So Glad!
It shouldn't matter but Dr. Jenner was Dr. Lugol's partner, they were not MD's 
but were both Dr. of Science , and working very hard on a solution that would 
sterilize their equipment after testing for a cure for several contagious
ailments.  
MY Point is Dr. Jenner was my mothers Grate Grandfather,  we used Lugol's  5 % 
Iodine Solution, all my life and still do  and I am a few months from 70 yrs 
old. My mother never met Dr. Jenner but  My mother's Dad knew him  talked a 
lot about the German  The Frenchman working night and day together trying to 
solve that days health problems.  (They most likely did not Paten or Register 
the name Lugol's ?)Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca
To: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:23:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 
Hi Folks,
 
 
I agree with Tel Tofflemire.
 
It is my understanding that J. G. A. Lugol, the guy 
who originally came up with the formula, made it in a 5% solution, as mentioned 
below from Wikipedia. That being so, it makes sense that Lugol's Solution, as 
he made it, is only a 5% solution. If anyone else wants to make an 
iodine/iodide 
solution using different amounts of its constituents that too should have 
benefits but could not be rightly called Lugol's Solution because he (Lugol) 
didn't make it that way...make sense?? Calling it a 2% iodine/iodide 
solution, for example, would be fine, in my opinion, FWIW.
 
Peter
 
Lugol's iodine, also known as Lugol's solution, first made in 
1829, is a solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in 
water, named after the French physician J.G.A. 
Lugol. Lugol's iodine solution is often used as an antiseptic and disinfectant, 
for emergency 
disinfection of drinking water, and as a reagent for starch detection in 
routine 
laboratory and medical tests .
It has been used more rarely to replenish iodine deficiency. [1] However, pure 
potassium iodide, 
containing the relatively benign iodide ion without the more toxic elemental 
iodine, is 
preferred for this purpose.
Formula and 
manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to 
make a brown solution with a total iodine content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium 
iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the 
formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of 
iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved 
in 
water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.
Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium 
Iodide); Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.
Formula and 
manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to 
make a brown solution with a total iodine content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium 
iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the 
formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of 
iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved 
in 
water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.
Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium 
Iodide); Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution 
BCP.





  

Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-28 Thread Deborah Gerard
Well you sure aren't one of them, going totally crazy because I posted a 
web-site. You need to be checked for anger management big time





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 5:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Thanks Peter,
Their are a few sane and gentle people left on this site.  So Glad!
It shouldn't matter but Dr. Jenner was Dr. Lugol's partner, they were not MD's 
but were both Dr. of Science , and working very hard on a solution that would 
sterilize their equipment after testing for a cure for several contagious
ailments.  
MY Point is Dr. Jenner was my mothers Grate Grandfather,  we used Lugol's  5 % 
Iodine Solution, all my life and still do  and I am a few months from 70 yrs 
old. My mother never met Dr. Jenner but  My mother's Dad knew him  talked a 
lot about the German  The Frenchman working night and day together trying to 
solve that days health problems.  (They most likely did not Paten or Register 
the name Lugol's ?)Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca
To: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:23:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Hi Folks,
 
 
I agree with Tel Tofflemire.
 
It is my understanding that J. G. A. Lugol, the guy who originally came up with 
the formula, made it in a 5% solution, as mentioned below from Wikipedia. That 
being so, it makes sense that Lugol's Solution, as he made it, is only a 5% 
solution. If anyone else wants to make an iodine/iodide solution using 
different amounts of its constituents that too should have benefits but could 
not be rightly called Lugol's Solution because he (Lugol) didn't make it that 
way...make sense?? Calling it a 2% iodine/iodide solution, for example, would 
be fine, in my opinion, FWIW.
 
Peter
 
Lugol's iodine, also known as Lugol's solution, first made in 1829, is a 
solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in water, named after the 
French physician J.G.A. Lugol. Lugol's iodine solution is often used as an 
antiseptic and disinfectant, for emergency disinfection of drinking water, and 
as a reagent for starch detection in routine laboratory and medical tests .
It has been used more rarely to replenish iodine deficiency. [1] However, pure 
potassium iodide, containing the relatively benign iodide ion without the more 
toxic elemental iodine, is preferred for this purpose.
Formula and manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.
Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, 
Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.
Formula and manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.
Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, 
Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.






  

Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-28 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Not worth a Reply
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 2:44:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Well you sure aren't one of them, going totally crazy because I posted a 
web-site. You need to be checked for anger management big time





 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 5:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Thanks Peter,
Their are a few sane and gentle people left on this site.  So Glad!
It shouldn't matter but Dr. Jenner was Dr. Lugol's partner, they were not MD's 
but were both Dr. of Science , and working very hard on a solution that would 
sterilize their equipment after testing for a cure for several contagious
ailments.  
MY Point is Dr. Jenner was my mothers Grate Grandfather,  we used Lugol's  5 % 
Iodine Solution, all my life and still do  and I am a few months from 70 yrs 
old. My mother never met Dr. Jenner but  My mother's Dad knew him  talked a 
lot about the German  The Frenchman working night and day together trying to 
solve that days health problems.  (They most likely did not Paten or Register 
the name Lugol's ?)Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





 From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca
To: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:23:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 
Hi Folks,
 
 
I agree with Tel Tofflemire.
 
It is my understanding that J. G. A. Lugol, the guy who originally came up with 
the formula, made it in a 5% solution, as mentioned below from Wikipedia. That 
being so, it makes sense that Lugol's Solution, as he made it, is only a 5% 
solution. If anyone else wants to make an iodine/iodide solution using 
different amounts of its constituents that too should have benefits but could 
not be rightly called Lugol's Solution because he (Lugol) didn't make it that 
way...make sense?? Calling it a 2% iodine/iodide solution, for example, would 
be fine, in my opinion, FWIW.
 
Peter
 
Lugol's iodine, also known as Lugol's solution, first made in 1829, is a 
solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in water, named after the 
French physician J.G.A. Lugol. Lugol's iodine solution is often used as an 
antiseptic and disinfectant, for emergency disinfection of drinking water, and 
as a reagent for starch detection in routine laboratory and medical tests .
It has been used more rarely to replenish iodine deficiency. [1] However, pure 
potassium iodide, containing the relatively benign iodide ion without the more 
toxic elemental iodine, is preferred for this purpose.
Formula and manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.
Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, 
Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.
Formula and manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3−) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.
Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, 
Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.





  

Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-28 Thread Tony Moody
Hey Tom,

You are being a bit of a prick, I'm sorry to have to say.

Lugols is regulated by your system to 2% for container volumes more than
30ml, see wiki article below. .

Further there are many different formula named Lugols. I notice that
www.lugols.com mentions Lugols 5% and Lugols 2% and mentions the mg
iodine per drop depending on how you hold the dropper and which % you
have.

Here are some formula below ; all yielding different mg/ml. Which is
correct by your reckoning?

OK,
Tony

Dr Hulda Clarke gave it as:
44g iodine, granular
88g potassium iodide, granular
1 litre water.

Medical Microbiology --Cruikshank
10g iodine
20g Potassium iodide
Distilled water 1000ml

and
1g iodine
2g Potassium iodide
300ml Distilled water

FromWikipedia:
Formula and manufacture.
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide
(KI) mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a
total iodine content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the
elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide
(I3?) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions,
which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water
and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide);
Markodine, Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.

Lugol's is obtained from chemists and pharmacists who are licensed to
prepare and dispense the solution. This indicator, also called a stain,
is used in many different fields.
'
'
2007 DEA regulation in the United States
However, effective August 1, 2007, the DEA now regulates Lugol's solution
(and, in fact, all iodine solutions containing greater than 2.2% iodine)
as a List I precursor because it may potentially be used in the illicit
production of methamphetamine.[8] However, transactions of up to one
fluid ounce (30 ml) of Lugol's solution are exempt from this regulation.
By contrast, Lugol's iodine solution is available over the counter in
Canada and Mexico.



On 26 Mar 2010 at 7:26, Tel Tofflemire wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

   Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading
 misinformation  that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not
 understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it.
 Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.
 I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group
 fine!) .  But I am more of a Herbalist than that.  You should have
 thanked me for setting you straight.   The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is
 not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you
 personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's  2 % Will
 not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn.

  Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.




 
 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
 Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


 I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com




 
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
 Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


 Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.
  Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 ~~


 
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure


 I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
 experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
 It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
 than coffee.
 Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.




 
  From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones


 I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water 
 out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people 
 with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney 
 stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and 
 thus contribute to the stones.
 Thanks.
 PT
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Bond
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
 Subject: CSKidney Stones
 
 
 I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones 
 aren´t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium 
 should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise 
 combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present

Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-27 Thread Peter Converse
Hi Folks,


I agree with Tel Tofflemire.

It is my understanding that J. G. A. Lugol, the guy who originally came up with 
the formula, made it in a 5% solution, as mentioned below from Wikipedia. That 
being so, it makes sense that Lugol's Solution, as he made it, is only a 5% 
solution. If anyone else wants to make an iodine/iodide solution using 
different amounts of its constituents that too should have benefits but could 
not be rightly called Lugol's Solution because he (Lugol) didn't make it that 
way...make sense?? Calling it a 2% iodine/iodide solution, for example, would 
be fine, in my opinion, FWIW.

Peter

Lugol's iodine, also known as Lugol's solution, first made in 1829, is a 
solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in water, named after the 
French physician J.G.A. Lugol. Lugol's iodine solution is often used as an 
antiseptic and disinfectant, for emergency disinfection of drinking water, and 
as a reagent for starch detection in routine laboratory and medical tests .

It has been used more rarely to replenish iodine deficiency. [1] However, pure 
potassium iodide, containing the relatively benign iodide ion without the more 
toxic elemental iodine, is preferred for this purpose.

Formula and manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3-) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.

Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, 
Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.

Formula and manufacture
Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine (I2) and 10 g potassium iodide (KI) 
mixed with 85 ml distilled water, to make a brown solution with a total iodine 
content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in 
water through the formation of the triiodide (I3-) ion. It is not to be 
confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, 
and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no 
alcohol.

Other names for Lugol's solution are I2KI (Iodine-Potassium Iodide); Markodine, 
Strong solution (Systemic); Aqueous Iodine Solution BCP.

  - Original Message 
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


  Dude, take a chill pill.  My understanding is Lugols's is a 2:1 solution of 
potassium iodide and iodine, and can come in different concentrations.  
altcancer.com sells it in 2.2%, 3%, 7% and 15%.

  Take a deep breath and educate us on why Lugol's can ONLY be 5%.

  Alan



Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread Tel Tofflemire
  Deborah,
What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation  that 
drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not understand that 2% Iodine is 
NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% 
Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.  I corrected you in private ! (If you want 
to be exposed to the group fine!) .  But I am more of a Herbalist than 
that.  You should have thanked me for setting you straight.   The Swanson's 
(Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything 
to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's  2 % Will 
not get the expected results.
Sorry your so stubborn.

 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com 





 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. 
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
~~



 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure


I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
than coffee.
Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones

 
I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water 
out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people 
with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney 
stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and 
thus contribute to the stones.
Thanks.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Bond 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: CSKidney Stones


I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones 
aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium 
should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise 
combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones 
usually.
 
Paul B

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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread Deborah Gerard
Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to teach 
you how to treat people if that is possible!!!





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:26:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


  Deborah,
What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation  that 
drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not understand that 2% Iodine is 
NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% 
Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.  I corrected you in private ! (If you want 
to be exposed to the group fine!) .  But I am more of a Herbalist than 
that.  You should have thanked me for setting you straight.   The Swanson's 
(Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything 
to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's  2 % Will 
not get the expected results.
Sorry your so stubborn.

 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com 





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. 
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
~~



From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure


I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
than coffee.
Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones


I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water 
out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people 
with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney 
stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and 
thus contribute to the stones.
Thanks.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Bond 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: CSKidney Stones


I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones 
aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium 
should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise 
combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones 
usually.
 
Paul B

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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread Alan Jones
Dude, take a chill pill.  My understanding is Lugols's is a 2:1 solution of
potassium iodide and iodine, and can come in different concentrations.
altcancer.com sells it in 2.2%, 3%, 7% and 15%.

Take a deep breath and educate us on why Lugol's can ONLY be 5%.

Alan

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Deborah,
 What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation
  that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not understand that *2%
 Iodine is NOT lugol's**,* no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always
 has been *5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.  I corrected you in
 private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) .  But I am
 more of a Herbalist than that.  You should have thanked me for setting you
 straight.   The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's
 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs
 LUGOL's and uses Swanson's  2 % Will not get the expected results.*
 *Sorry your so stubborn.*


 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.


 --
 *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com

 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com

  --
 *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
 *Subject:* CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

  Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com

 ~~
  --
 *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure

  I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing
 to experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever
 used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most
 rather than coffee.
 Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/
 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.


  --
 *From:* needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones

 I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls
 water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for
 people with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for
 kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary
 tract and thus contribute to the stones.
 Thanks.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Paul Bond pmb...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
 *Subject:* CSKidney Stones

  I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney
 stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the
 calcium should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which
 otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present
 in stones usually.



 Paul B


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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread Dan Nave
I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of
you are is spelled you're not your...

Dan



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to
 teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!!

 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:26:34 AM
 Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

   Deborah,
 What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation
  that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not understand that 2%
 Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has
 been 5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.  I corrected you in private !
 (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) .  But I am more of a
 Herbalist than that.  You should have thanked me for setting you straight.
   The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may
 not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses
 Swanson's  2 % Will not get the expected results.
 Sorry your so stubborn.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.

 
 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
 Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com

 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
 Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 ~~
 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure

 I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to
 experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used.
 It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather
 than coffee.
 Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.

 
 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones

 I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water
 out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for
 people with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for
 kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary
 tract and thus contribute to the stones.
 Thanks.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Bond
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
 Subject: CSKidney Stones

 I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones
 aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium
 should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise
 combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones
 usually.



 Paul B

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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Oh sure Dan -- stir the pot!!   lol
MA





From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of
you are is spelled you're not your...



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to
 teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!!

 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com

   Deborah,
 What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation
  that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not understand that 2%
 Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has
 been 5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.  I corrected you in private !
 (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) .  But I am more of a
 Herbalist than that.  You should have thanked me for setting you straight.
   The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may
 not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses
 Swanson's  2 % Will not get the expected results.
 Sorry your so stubborn.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.

 
 From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com

 I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com

 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
 Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

 Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 ~~
 
 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure

 I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to
 experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used.
 It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather
 than coffee.
 Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 Tel Tofflemire
 Dewey, AZ.

 
 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
 Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones

 I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water
 out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for
 people with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for
 kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary
 tract and thus contribute to the stones.
 Thanks.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Bond
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
 Subject: CSKidney Stones

 I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones
 aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium
 should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise
 combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones
 usually.



 Paul B

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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread Malcolm
But MA; that's not spelled pot, it's spelled pout!  g

On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 10:52 -0700, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Oh sure Dan -- stir the pot!!   lol
 MA
 
 
 
 __
 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 
 I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of
 you are is spelled you're not your...
 
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you
 Lugol's to
  teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!!
 
  
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 
Deborah,
  What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading
 misinformation
   that drive away the ones with knowledge,  You do not understand
 that 2%
  Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and
 always has
  been 5% Potassium Iodide  Iodine crystals.  I corrected you in
 private !
  (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) .  But I am more
 of a
  Herbalist than that.  You should have thanked me for setting you
 straight.
The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %,
 it may
  not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's
 and uses
  Swanson's  2 % Will not get the expected results.
  Sorry your so stubborn.
 
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.
 
  
  From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 
  I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com
 
  
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
  Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
 
  Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.
 
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.
  http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 
 ~~
  
  From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure
 
  I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are
 nothing to
  experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have
 ever used.
  It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most
 rather
  than coffee.
  Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.
 
  
  From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
  Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones
 
  I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus
 pulls water
  out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses
 for
  people with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used
 for
  kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the
 urinary
  tract and thus contribute to the stones.
  Thanks.
  PT
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Bond
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
  Subject: CSKidney Stones
 
  I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear
 kidney stones
  aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the
 calcium
  should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which
 otherwise
  combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present
 in stones
  usually.
 
 
 
  Paul B
 
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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Swanson's is Not 5% Read the label It's 21/2 % Iodine

2010-03-26 Thread Bruce Anderson




It's 2%.
Bruce A.

On 3/26/2010 1:47 AM, Tel Tofflemire wrote:


Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.



*From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com 
http://www.swansonvitamins.com



*From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
*Subject:* CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
~~

*From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure

I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are 
nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I 
have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 
days at the most rather than coffee.

Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.



*From:* needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones

I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls 
water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high 
doses for people with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it 
is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water 
in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones.

Thanks.
PT

- Original Message -
*From:* Paul Bond mailto:pmb...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
*Subject:* CSKidney Stones

I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear
kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough
magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick.  Also Vit B6
reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to
produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually.

Paul B



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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-26 Thread MaryAnn Helland
;-)





From: Malcolm s...@asis.com



On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 10:52 -0700, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Oh sure Dan -- stir the pot!!  lol

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 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 
 I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of
 you are is spelled you're not your...

 
 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you
 Lugol's to
  teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!!


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CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-25 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. 
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
~~



From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure


I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
than coffee.
Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones

 
I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and 
thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high 
doses for people with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is 
used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the 
urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones.
Thanks.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Bond 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 
  AM
Subject: CSKidney Stones


I would be very curious to know if all those things that 
  clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium 
  to match the calcium should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic 
  acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, 
 which 
  is present in stones usually.
 
Paul B

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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE

2010-03-25 Thread Deborah Gerard
I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com 





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. 
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
~~



From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure


I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
than coffee.
Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones


I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water 
out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people 
with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney 
stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and 
thus contribute to the stones.
Thanks.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Bond 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: CSKidney Stones


I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones 
aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium 
should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise 
combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones 
usually.
 
Paul B

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Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Swanson's is Not 5% Read the label It's 21/2 % Iodine

2010-03-25 Thread Tel Tofflemire

 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com 





 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM
Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE


Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. 
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
~~



 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure


I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to 
experiment with.  Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. 
It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather 
than coffee.
Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ. 





 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones

 
I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water 
out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people 
with kidney disease.  Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney 
stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and 
thus contribute to the stones.
Thanks.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Bond 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: CSKidney Stones


I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones 
aren’t unusually high in Magnesium.  Enough magnesium to match the calcium 
should do the trick.  Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise 
combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones 
usually.
 
Paul B

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