CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread David AuBuchon
http://www.apexuap.com/index.html

David


Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
I don't know but... it is $ 100.00 for a 4 oz bottle and it says it
takes four bottles per month to follow the protocol.  whew.. !!  Lola

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 http://www.apexuap.com/index.html

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Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread David AuBuchon
I thought I read 1 bottle a month.  Anyway, somewhere they said they would
sell it at cost under circumstances I already forgot.  They also apparently
have no way for the public to purchase it except through practitioners who
agree to document cases for them.

Still reading their pages.  No info on what it actually is.  Some wrong
info about colloidal silver is there.  But in general, I am not getting a
intentionally scammy vibe from these folk as is present in other sites.  I
am getting a sincere vibe.

I am recalling a product called OxySilver.  I seem to remember concluding
it was the same thing as ASAP - colloids made by HVAC.  This APeX product
also touts something or the other about oxygen.

Anyh...

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:39 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net
phoenix23...@tds.netwrote:

 I don't know but... it is $ 100.00 for a 4 oz bottle and it says it
 takes four bottles per month to follow the protocol.  whew.. !!  Lola

 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:20 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://www.apexuap.com/index.html
 
  David


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Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread David AuBuchon
Well, they talk about cancer data, but then its nowhere on their site.
Guess it's privy info...no way to tell if it is any better than anecdotal
cures with EIS...

One thing their site made me realize was that their appears to be a product
by ABL called Super Silver Solution that Frank tested in 2010 to be ionic
silver.  There advertising does not suggest it of course.  This then casts
doubt on ABLs patent claims on ASAP and their other brands being 10nm
colloids nearly 100% with properties x,y,z.


Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
I am not that knowledgeable about different silver solutions, etc.
but I like to think I am pretty savvy about scams and this website
certainly falls into the wierd catagory.  It even has a place where
you can 'donate' but can't buy unless you are a medical professional.
Most doctors are real gun shy about things like this.  So...  do they
know something we don't know?   It sounds like the product has silver
but also uniquely delivers oxygen to tissues/cells.  Like I said, just
wierd.  But it sure makes my curiosity flag go up ..lol..   Lola

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:14 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, they talk about cancer data, but then its nowhere on their site.
 Guess it's privy info...no way to tell if it is any better than anecdotal
 cures with EIS...

 One thing their site made me realize was that their appears to be a product
 by ABL called Super Silver Solution that Frank tested in 2010 to be ionic
 silver.  There advertising does not suggest it of course.  This then casts
 doubt on ABLs patent claims on ASAP and their other brands being 10nm
 colloids nearly 100% with properties x,y,z.


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Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread David AuBuchon
A presentation by a doctor on the product:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6EAkTrauss

He writes on a slide that a similar product (tetrasilver tetroxide)
developed by Marvin Antelman demonstrated similar beneficial effects.  He
goes on to say that Marvin is an Israeli scientist and his product is the
one that cured breast cancer in the south american study by IV
administration.

Maybe their negative ABL talk is to reduce ASAP as a competitor, as ABL
claims it contains Ag4O4.

The presentation has only a few documented cases.  No summary of results of
all documented cases.





On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, they talk about cancer data, but then its nowhere on their site.
 Guess it's privy info...no way to tell if it is any better than anecdotal
 cures with EIS...

 One thing their site made me realize was that their appears to be a
 product by ABL called Super Silver Solution that Frank tested in 2010 to be
 ionic silver.  There advertising does not suggest it of course.  This then
 casts doubt on ABLs patent claims on ASAP and their other brands being 10nm
 colloids nearly 100% with properties x,y,z.



Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
David.. this is a site with comments and info about Apex.  Interesting
and it seems to be legitimate.
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?5121-Bill-Chastain-APeX-Revolutionary-Cancer-Program

Lola

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:30 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 A presentation by a doctor on the product:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6EAkTrauss

 He writes on a slide that a similar product (tetrasilver tetroxide)
 developed by Marvin Antelman demonstrated similar beneficial effects.  He
 goes on to say that Marvin is an Israeli scientist and his product is the
 one that cured breast cancer in the south american study by IV
 administration.

 Maybe their negative ABL talk is to reduce ASAP as a competitor, as ABL
 claims it contains Ag4O4.

 The presentation has only a few documented cases.  No summary of results of
 all documented cases.






 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Well, they talk about cancer data, but then its nowhere on their site.
 Guess it's privy info...no way to tell if it is any better than anecdotal
 cures with EIS...

 One thing their site made me realize was that their appears to be a
 product by ABL called Super Silver Solution that Frank tested in 2010 to be
 ionic silver.  There advertising does not suggest it of course.  This then
 casts doubt on ABLs patent claims on ASAP and their other brands being 10nm
 colloids nearly 100% with properties x,y,z.




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Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread Steve G
Looks like it is razzle-dazzle to me.

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Subject: CSWhat is this silver product APeX
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Date: Thursday, January 5, 2012, 4:20 PM

http://www.apexuap.com/index.html

David



Re: CSWhat is this silver product APeX

2012-01-05 Thread David AuBuchon
Has anyone here actually tried tetrasil, tetrasil cream, or terrasil cream
(appears to be renaming of tetrasil cream)?  Only terrasil appears to be
available.  Think it is worth a long shot for systemic infection?