Re: [SLUG] MS: 'Not So Fast There, Pierre' (Business Tuesday)

2000-04-27 Thread Andrew Reilly

On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 03:52:29PM +1000, Ken Yap wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 03:23:23PM +1000, Ken Yap wrote:
  The formats are "published". Only problem is there are lots of
  undocumented bits.
 
 Are they?  Where is Office2000 word's file format documented?
 
 You could be right and that still wouldn't help if the published
 definition of what the bits mean is vague enough.
 
 I assumed he was referring to the previous Word formats. But my point is
 it's no use ordering M$ to "publish" the formats, Office2000 or otherwise,
 if you can't check if they correspond to reality. I don't think even the
 M$ programmers know, their software must be a can of worms by now.

Maybe the approach that governments should take is (similar to
the IETF):

Only use "standards".

Anything can be a standard as long as the details are published
and there are _two_ independantly developed, inter-operating
implementations.

In order to be such a standard, and therefore used by the
government, MS would have to publish enough detail for a
re-implementation to succeed.  It's _possible_ that the most
inexpensive way for them to do that is to publish the source
code.  I doubt it, though, because the inter-operability
mechanisms in, for example, StarOffice, seem to be getting
pretty close.

If Sun publish the source for StarOffice soon (as they've
promised), then that must open a lot of this sort of thing up to
scrutiny just as well as if MS had done so for MS Office.

It would also satisfy the French politicians, I suspect.  MS
may be pretty worried.

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Re: [SLUG] modules for sound

2000-04-27 Thread Russell Davie


Your right, it is a CS4372.
I've read the help files, yesturday, on the CS4372 and changed the
conf.modules, and ran sndconfig, but it still didn't work, I'll have a go
at modeprobe and insmod


you need to configure the modules in /etc/conf.modules.

If you are running RedHat, try using 'sndconfig' (as root); this
should be able to set up your sound drivers for you. I'm not sure
how any other distributions automate this.

Otherwise, you will have to do the configuration by hand. If you are
not familiar with this (and with commands such as 'modprobe' and
'insmod') have a read of Documenatation/modules.txt in your linux
source directory.

I don't know the details of the CS4372, but I'd imagine its based on
the CS4232. Have a read of Documentation/sound/CS4232 to see how to
set one of these up.

Conrad.



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[SLUG] Glitches in Red Hat Linux

2000-04-27 Thread Henry Taruna Wijaya

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1757740.html

A small backdoor / flaw?





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Re: [SLUG] BIOS trap for Compaq Deskpro 2000

2000-04-27 Thread Paul Robinson

 From memory, Compaq prefer using fxx keys.. usually f1 or f2.

Hope that works for ya

Paul

At 06:25 PM 27/04/00 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
Can someone tell me the BIOS trap key sequence for a Compaq Deskpro 2000.
I've tried just about everything I can think of, but the only response I
get is from ESC which stops the memory scan.

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RE: [SLUG] BIOS trap for Compaq Deskpro 2000

2000-04-27 Thread Peter McCarthy

The other one to look for is F10

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 From memory, Compaq prefer using fxx keys.. usually f1 or f2.

Hope that works for ya

Paul

At 06:25 PM 27/04/00 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
Can someone tell me the BIOS trap key sequence for a Compaq Deskpro 2000.
I've tried just about everything I can think of, but the only response I
get is from ESC which stops the memory scan.

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Re: [SLUG] BIOS trap for Compaq Deskpro 2000

2000-04-27 Thread Ben Donohue

i think you have to wait for the small rectangle to flash on the right
hand side upper corner of the screen. when you see this hit F10, or F12,
can't remember. this will call up the configuration screen. i think this
screen configs the bios as well.


Howard Lowndes wrote:
 
 Can someone tell me the BIOS trap key sequence for a Compaq Deskpro 2000.
 I've tried just about everything I can think of, but the only response I
 get is from ESC which stops the memory scan.
 
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Re: [SLUG] BIOS trap for Compaq Deskpro 2000

2000-04-27 Thread DaZZa

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 Can someone tell me the BIOS trap key sequence for a Compaq Deskpro 2000.
 I've tried just about everything I can think of, but the only response I
 get is from ESC which stops the memory scan.

Almost all Compaq machines store their BIOS configuration programs on a
small{ish} special partition on ther hard disk.

When booting, watch for the white, filled rectangle block to appear in the
top RIGHT hand side of the screen {just after the double beep from the
BIOS, usually}, then press F10.

Provided the config programs are installed, this should load a mini
version of DOS and the BIOS config program.

DaZZa

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Re: [SLUG] ISDN Bandwith

2000-04-27 Thread Paul Haddon

On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 07:30:32PM +1000, Ryan McBride wrote:
 Can anyone tell me how I can measure the sorta bandwith im getting through a
 debian box??? Its a 64k ISDN

Take a look at PathChar

http://www.caida.org/tools/taxonomy/content/pathchar/

Written by Van Jacobson, it "allows any user to find the bandwidth, delay, 
average queue and loss rate of every hop between any source  
destination on the Internet"

Cheers

Paul Haddon
Technical Services Manager
Hartingdale Internet

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Re: [SLUG] ppp help

2000-04-27 Thread James Wilkinson

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Barrie Hall generated:

W2 tells the modem to report the *real* connect speed to the DCE (your Linux
box)

Thanks, Barrie, I found that quite useful (/me always loving more tweaks
to add)

On a similar vein, a good one to add to the init string is 'S2=255'.
This sets the modem escape character to chr(255), effectively disabling
it -- fixing the ping/+++ATH0 modem DoS attack.

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Re: [SLUG] Arkeia no go - any other backup solutions?

2000-04-27 Thread James Wilkinson

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Richard Lane generated:

How about Amanda? http://www.amanda.org

That was I was about to try, it's a client / server
open source backup solution. Wasn't much good 3 years
ago when I last tried it, but it has suposedly improved
a lot since then.

Does anyone on the list have any experience with it?

Yup.

We use it at work with a 4G DDS-2 tape drive, and it runs once a night
from cron.  Very smooth.  The only problem i've had with it has been due
to cron deciding not to run.

I suggest getting "Unix Backup and Recovery" from O'Rielly, also look
at www.backupcentral.com, the website behind the book.  There is a whole
chapter devoted to amanda.

It's quite configurable, it claims to work with jukes as well as single
tape drives, optical boxes, write-once drives, etc, though i've not had
the hardware to try out anything fancier.

It is based on tar or dump, but from the way it lays out the backup on
the tape, this isn't a shortcoming (you are given instructions on how to
recover from tapes when the amanda system packs it in too, using mt and
tar)

As it's free software, it does require a lot of work to start it up.
Previous backup experience would make it a lot easier (something I
didn't have ;)  But it's well suited to our operation, and i like it ;)

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[SLUG] all the known Tuxes

2000-04-27 Thread Ken Yap

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[SLUG] Connection over internet times out

2000-04-27 Thread Michael Hosemans

Hello all,

I have a problem with Linux Redhat 6.1 at HOME, which I have connected to 
the internet, When I telnet into it from work, the telnet session times out 
after being idle for about 20 minutes.

Does anybody know why, or how I can fix it so the connection does not  time 
out.

Any help greatly appreciated,


Michael.


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[SLUG] Trouble with ftp

2000-04-27 Thread Simon Bryan

Hi,
I want to be able to use an ftp client running on my NT machine to ftp to an 
internet site. At the moment I can't get past my Linux server! (Mandrake 6)

I can give the client the Linux machine IP address, but it always fais to logon 
to the ftp server on the Linux box. I see messages such as 'Password 
Required for User ', I give the password for that user but it still fails to 
login.

The user is listed in /etc/ftpusers and the permissions on that file are 755

What else do I need to do? Or am I going about it all wrong?

Cheers,


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Re: [SLUG] Trouble with ftp

2000-04-27 Thread Peter Rundle

Simon,


 The user is listed in /etc/ftpusers and the permissions on that file are 755

Big big mistake, ftpusers is a deny file, put the use you DON'T want access
to the system in here.

And yes I agree, Me thinks that this is the wrong way round, it should be
unless you are specifically granted you are denied. But as with every thing 
Linux you can fix that by editing the file /etc/pam.d/ftp and changing the 
first line so that sense=allow instead of sense=deny.

rgds

Pete

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[SLUG] ppp / gateway setup

2000-04-27 Thread Alex

Hi, my thanks to everyone for the PPP replies, they were really helpful.
I finally got connected using netcfg, and I noticed pretty much everything 
was set up except the modem init string. I'm still not sure which files 
netcfg looks at, and how it knew where to find them. That is one thing that 
is making me uneasy, but I'll try finding out.
Now to my new problem, I have a working RedHat 6.1 dist installed on a PII. 
I have a 486 that I want to use as a gateway, with just the ppp and routing 
stuff.
I was going to try an ftp install (before transplanting a CD drive), using 
the PII in which I would host the RedHat CD. A previous RedHat 5.2 bootdisk 
gave me the option of installing from ftp, but 6.1 did not...
I am forced to install the CD drive.
After restarting from the bootdisk, I get up to the installation part where 
it asks if I want to add other devices. After selecting Done, the installer 
starts loading, and after a minute, it says it has caught a signal 7, and is 
exiting abnormally. Does anyone have any ideas of what could be the cause of 
this?
Thanks for your time,
Alex

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[SLUG] Re: slug-digest V3 #1220

2000-04-27 Thread Alex

Hi, my thanks to everyone for the PPP replies, they were really helpful.
I finally got connected using netcfg, and I noticed pretty much everything 
was set up except the modem init string. I'm still not sure which files 
netcfg looks at, and how it knew where to find them. That is one thing that 
is making me uneasy, but I'll try finding out.
Now to my new problem, I have a working RedHat 6.1 dist installed on a PII. 
I have a 486 that I want to use as a gateway, with just the ppp and routing 
stuff.
I was going to try an ftp install (before transplanting a CD drive), using 
the PII in which I would host the RedHat CD. A previous RedHat 5.2 bootdisk 
gave me the option of installing from ftp, but 6.1 did not...
I am forced to install the CD drive.
After restarting from the bootdisk, I get up to the installation part where 
it asks if I want to add other devices. After selecting Done, the installer 
starts loading, and after a minute, it says it has caught a signal 7, and is 
exiting abnormally. Does anyone have any ideas of what could be the cause of 
this?
Thanks for your time,
Alex

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[SLUG] Tonight's meeting

2000-04-27 Thread Conrad Parker

This is a reminder for tonight's SLUG meeting. Please note the new
location is University Hall at UTS, which is clearly labelled on

http://www.uts.edu.au/div/publications/maps/bway.html

The best way to access University Hall is via Harris St near the
walking bridge that crosses over it.

The main presentations this month are:

Anton Blanchard
New developments in Linux kernel 2.4

Chuck Dale, Jeff Waugh, Adrian van den Dries
DocBook and associated documentation systems


As usual, the meeting begins at 6:30 PM. For more details vist the
SLUG web site at http://www.slug.org.au/.

Conrad.
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RE: [SLUG] Connection over internet times out

2000-04-27 Thread Marty

Hi Michael,

Don't use telnet over the internet unless you like other people sniffing
your details and logging in as you.

Use SSH, turn telnet (and nearly everything else) off.

The timeout thing is a Redhat default configuration issue - someone who
likes Dead Hat can probably let us know where its stored if you really want
to change it.

Cheers,
Marty


 Hello all,

 I have a problem with Linux Redhat 6.1 at HOME, which I have connected to
 the internet, When I telnet into it from work, the telnet session
 times out
 after being idle for about 20 minutes.

 Does anybody know why, or how I can fix it so the connection does
 not  time
 out.

 Any help greatly appreciated,


 Michael.



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Re: [SLUG] dialin products

2000-04-27 Thread Dean Hamstead

What do you mean by dial in products?
if you establish a ppp or slop connection then you have a low bandwidth
network connection
which will then allow any network capable program to run over it.

do you need instructions as to how you should setup a small ppp server?

Dean

Doug Balmer wrote:
 
 hi all,
 
 i need to look into getting some dialin lines running for our office. i
 would like some recomendations for products that are supported under
 linux as well as NT. i need at least 8 dial-in lines
 
 thanks
 
 doug
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[SLUG] dialin products

2000-04-27 Thread Doug Balmer

hi all,

i need to look into getting some dialin lines running for our office. i
would like some recomendations for products that are supported under
linux as well as NT. i need at least 8 dial-in lines

thanks

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[SLUG] Automated DNS entry question

2000-04-27 Thread Alex

Hi,
 Suppose I have a machine (domain.com) in the US with a static ip, that
is also a DNS.
Another machine (ftp.domain.com) is the one I use at home to dial in to
my ISP, and has a dynamic ip address. Both machines are running Linux.
 When I dial in through my home machine, I want it to automatically
update the old ip in domain.com's DNS entries to the one just assigned
by my ISP. Basically, as long as the home machine is online, I want
there to be no trouble accessing it using the name ftp.domain.com.
 Is this the best way of doing this? If so, could someone give me a
guide on how to do this?
Thanks,
Alex

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Re: [SLUG] dialin products

2000-04-27 Thread Doug Balmer

what i want is either a lowend dialin server with 8 lines (4 BRI ports),
or some ISDN cards that i can stick into a linux box,
or any other options anyone else can offer

can someone give some pointers on the ISDN cards?

Dean Hamstead writes:
  What do you mean by dial in products?
  if you establish a ppp or slop connection then you have a low bandwidth
  network connection
  which will then allow any network capable program to run over it.
  
  do you need instructions as to how you should setup a small ppp server?
  
  Dean
  
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Re: [SLUG] dialin products

2000-04-27 Thread Dean Hamstead

You could just grab a p200, stick in a multiport serial card and plug in
lots of modems.
Alternatively you could use USB modems and skip the serial card bit.
However im not too sure of the state of usb modems in linux.
www.linux-usb.org.

You cant use them in NT4 as it has no USB stack and MS arent going to
make one. I saw one from some company (sorry i cant remember) that HP
uses for its printers in NT. It seemed ok, it ran in your system tray,
however i only had a logitech camera to test with it and no it didnt
work (Well it saw the device but couldnt provide a driver)

anyway yeah, i dont know about isdn, but i think usb modems are
potentially a good option for small dial in clusters.

Dean

Doug Balmer wrote:
 
 what i want is either a lowend dialin server with 8 lines (4 BRI ports),
 or some ISDN cards that i can stick into a linux box,
 or any other options anyone else can offer
 
 can someone give some pointers on the ISDN cards?
 
 Dean Hamstead writes:
   What do you mean by dial in products?
   if you establish a ppp or slop connection then you have a low bandwidth
   network connection
   which will then allow any network capable program to run over it.
  
   do you need instructions as to how you should setup a small ppp server?
  
   Dean
  
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[SLUG] Redhat v6.2 Printer setup and samba sharing

2000-04-27 Thread Adrian Craig

I don't know much about Redhat or Linux, so please be patient with me.

I have a 486dx33 which I have installed Redhat v6.2 and have set it up to
masquerade to a 192.168.0.0/24 network.  I am using text mode as x-windows
would slow the system down too much. I would like to setup a Lexmark Optra
E+ on this machine and share it via SAMBA to the LAN.  Could somebody help
me set this printer up and then share it via the SAMBA SERVER to the
internal LAN only

Thanks in Advance
Adrian

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