RE: [SLUG] Telnet from the Borg

2000-06-02 Thread Jill Rowling

I'm seeing a similar thing now (I just checked on a solaris box with a Win
NT telnet) and after I log out, the telnet session is shown as TIME_WAIT
I think you just have to wait for the PC to sort itself out.
I often use telnet from PCs into various *NIX and have not seen sessions
hanging around for very long. I think you might just have to wait for
however long it takes for the PC to get a new broadcast or whatever they
listen for on LANs.

Ahh now it's dropped out (in the time it takes me to write this).

Regards,

Jill.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Howard Lowndes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 3:48 PM
 To:   Mail List - SLUG; Mail List - CLUG
 Subject:  [SLUG] Telnet from the Borg
 
 I have just discovered that when I use M$ telnet to access a Linux box,
 when I close the connection the netstat -a shows the connection as CLOSE
 with details of the established socket rather then as LISTEN with no
 socket details.
 
 The effect of this is that I cannot establish another telnet connection to
 that port.
 
 How can I clear that entry from the netstat table short of rebooting the
 Linux box?  It doesn't seem to want to time out.
 
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Re: [SLUG] Telnet from the Borg

2000-06-02 Thread Peter Samuel

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 
 I have just discovered that when I use M$ telnet to access a Linux box,
 when I close the connection the netstat -a shows the connection as CLOSE
 with details of the established socket rather then as LISTEN with no
 socket details.

I don't think is is a Borg problem. Typically telnet is started by a
supervisory program such as inetd or tcpserver. They should be
configured such that they can handle MANY connections, so even during
a current telnet session, there should be a LISTENer available for
port 23.

So, assuming you're using inetd, what does your /etc/inetd.conf say
for telnet?

Here's one from a RH6.0 (SPARC) system

telnet  stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd  in.telnetd

Note the "nowait" word. Is yours the same?

 
 The effect of this is that I cannot establish another telnet connection to
 that port.
 
 How can I clear that entry from the netstat table short of rebooting the
 Linux box?  It doesn't seem to want to time out.

Reooting the linux box will fix this instance of the problem, but I
think you'll need to look at how telnetd is started to fix it
properly.

Regards
Peter
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[SLUG] Re: Script wanted

2000-06-02 Thread Angus Lees

On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 11:05:23AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
 for o in 'ls -1'
 do
   $o  'cat $o'  #but haven't twigged to what is wrong with 2nd part
 done   results


(what everyone else said)

you don't need "ls -1", since ls (should) only do single column output
if stdout isn't a tty


note also herbert's method, which doesn't even need the ls (i've
changed the "echo ``", since i had to add something original to this
thread ;):

for o in /path/*; do
  echo -n $o\ ; cat $o
done  results

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Re: [SLUG] StarOffice - WordCount macro anyone ?

2000-06-02 Thread Del

"Grahame M. Kelly" wrote:
 
 Hi Sluggers.
 
 Anyone got a document word count for Starwriter ?
 Nothing found on the Sun StarOffice Sunsolve.

Pull down File - Properties, and select the "Statistics" tab.

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Re: [SLUG] ipchains question

2000-06-02 Thread Anand Kumria

On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 02:33:18AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have setup some ipchains rulesets for a small network
 running cable/masq i have auth running on gateway and local machine i run irc but 
get cannot find identd please install. Now if i use irc at gateway all works but any 
sub box it dont, I tryed fooling with the ipchains rules but couldnt figure it out ? 

As far as the rest of the world is concerned; only your gateway machine
is accessable. What you run on your internal network isn't accessable
to the outside world.

 also is it possable not to run auth on the gateway just get it to forward all 
requests to the machine running ident ?
 I couldnt quit figure out how to do it any help would be great

As long as you are running a 2.2 kernel (`uname -a' will tell you) you
should use ipmasqadm's portfw (port forwarding) facility.

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Re: [SLUG] Telnet from the Borg

2000-06-02 Thread Sonam Chauhan

I've seen Microsoft show telnet hang-in-there(TM) behavior when told to disconnect 
from a Unix server. Once it showed
(flashed) parts of a earlier, supposedly disconnected, session when I started a new 
session in the Telnet application. 

- Sonam
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Re: [SLUG] ipchains question

2000-06-02 Thread maxmail

Yes i have modules_irc loaded
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] generated:

I have setup some ipchains rulesets for a small network running cable/masq
i have auth running on gateway and local machine i run irc but get cannot
find identd please install. Now if i use irc at gateway all works but any
sub box it dont, I tryed fooling with the ipchains rules but couldnt
figure it out ?

Do you have the ip_masq_irc module loaded?  If not, type 'modprobe
ip_masq_irc' as root.

also is it possable not to run auth on the gateway just get it to forward
all requests to the machine running ident ?

Other than port forwarding (which I am not sure is necessary for ident
if you have ip_masq_irc installed, but don't quote me on that)  you
could try a package called mident, it's basically a daemon that replaces
ident on the gateway, that knows about masquerading -- but that doesn't
answer your question ;)

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[SLUG] So don't use it! :) [WAS: Telnet from the Borg]

2000-06-02 Thread Jeff Waugh

Sonam Chauhan wrote:
 I've seen Microsoft show telnet hang-in-there(TM) behavior when told to disconnect 
from a Unix server. Once it showed
 (flashed) parts of a earlier, supposedly disconnected, session when I started a new 
session in the Telnet application. 


Never seen that happen, but I think we can all agree that Telnet.exe is
a very, well, silly piece of software (if anyone can confirm that the Telnet
in Win2K is BSD derived, I'd be interested to hear it).

If you want something cool to use for all your "Damn, I wish I had a real
command line" moments, try PuTTY. It does ssh too.

The interface is wonky (to put it nicely), but it works brilliantly, and it
fits on a floppy, so you don't have to leave home without it.


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[SLUG] Procmail: Errors for Dupes and Why the Maildirs?

2000-06-02 Thread Jeff Waugh

Hey all,

Guess who's playing with their .procmailrc? ;)

I have two things bugging me ATM. The first is the following message
that pops up when I run 'mailstat' on my procmail log:


  Total Average  Number Folder
  - ---  -- --
  0   0   1  ## procmail: Extraneous locallockfile ignored
   36173617   1 Inbox
   37523752   1 Lists/docbook
  - ---  --
   73692456   3

It always happens when I receive dupe emails.

The second is that whenever I receive email from lists that conform to
the RFC* rule that Anand mentioned that don't already have a mbox
file, procmail builds a Maildir for them (cur/new/tmp). I haven't found
any mention of changing mailbox format preferences thus far...

Here are the relevant parts of my .procmailrc file:


---


PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin

MAILDIR=$HOME/mail

LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/log
LOGABSTRACT=all
LINEBUF=4096

FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail


# Prevent duplicates
:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| $FORMAIL -D 8192 .msgid.cache


:0:
* ^((List-Id|X-(Mailing-)?List):(.*[]\/[^]*))
{
   LISTID=$MATCH

   :0:
   * LISTID ?? .*\/[^@.]*
   Lists/$MATCH
}

:0:
*
Inbox


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Any ideas?

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] laptop to PC

2000-06-02 Thread Peter Hardy

 How can a laptop to install files from a destop PC CDROM via parallel
 cable? ie: laplink cable connecting LPT1 to LPT1.
 Hopefully to install RH6.2 on laptop!
I would make the cd contents available via FTP, and do an FTP-install.

 I've trawled the RH6.2 CD contents and linux sites and so far only found
 details about using PLIP to install Debian GNU-Linux.  Have yet to found
 the PLIP-HOWTO, also I have Red Hat
It's a mini-howto:
http://www.linux.org.au/LDP/HOWTO/mini/PLIP.html

I tried to do a similar thing, but was foiled by a broken parallel port on
the laptop.  Ended up installing Slackware from floppies :-P

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[SLUG] Re: slug-digest V3 #1303

2000-06-02 Thread Grant Parnell

 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:25:57 +1000 (EST)
 From: Andrew Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SLUG] [Kinda OT] Weird tty arrangement
 
 Just wondering if anybody could lend a few ideas on how to achieve the
 following.
 
 I have a link looking like this:
 
 Box A (Win 98)
  | Intranet
   | Linux Box
| Internet
 | Linux Box
  | Intranet
   | Box B (Win 2000)
 
 
 What I would like to do is mimic a COM port on Box A which is linked to
 another pretend COM port on Box B.
 
 Does anybody have much experience which programs which do this and where I
 can obtain them from?
 
 What I am trying to do is get a game of Transport Tycoon Deluxe going over
 the Internet :)
 
 We've tried an IPX gateway, but it's putting too much traffic and the
 latency is killing it.  The game also has null modem  modem options,
 which I'm hoping have less bloated packet algorithms.

If it hasn't been answered already it would be relatively easy to
setup a virtual serial cable for the Windows boxes to plug into at
each end. The two linux boxes would have to have a spare serial port
each and one would have to initiate the connection. You just run null
modem cables from the Windows boxes to the linux boxes.

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[SLUG] A decent text editor?

2000-06-02 Thread Peter Faulks

Before you all say 'vi' -  I'm sure vi is a powerful editor, its just i'd like 
something a little
bit more user-friendly.

If any of you have used Boxer (Dos, OS/2, and now a Windoze ver as well), you'll know
what I'm after. (if not, give it a go at http://www.boxersoftware.com)

Any suggestions?

Regards


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Re: [SLUG] A decent text editor?

2000-06-02 Thread Guy Taylor

if you have the rescources go starofficeits free

if not maybe try abiword

The Gods Previously Read:

 Before you all say 'vi' -  I'm sure vi is a powerful editor, its just i'd like 
something a little
 bit more user-friendly.
 
 If any of you have used Boxer (Dos, OS/2, and now a Windoze ver as well), you'll know
 what I'm after. (if not, give it a go at http://www.boxersoftware.com)
 
 Any suggestions?
 
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Re: [SLUG] A decent text editor?

2000-06-02 Thread Dean Hamstead

pico or the newer nano

look on freshmeat.net, most dists should have a binary for at least pico

Dean

Peter Faulks wrote:
 
 Before you all say 'vi' -  I'm sure vi is a powerful editor, its just i'd like 
something a little
 bit more user-friendly.
 
 If any of you have used Boxer (Dos, OS/2, and now a Windoze ver as well), you'll know
 what I'm after. (if not, give it a go at http://www.boxersoftware.com)
 
 Any suggestions?
 
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[SLUG] [Kinda OT] Weird tty arrangement

2000-06-02 Thread Grant Parnell

 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:25:57 +1000 (EST)
 From: Andrew Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [SLUG] [Kinda OT] Weird tty arrangement
 
 Just wondering if anybody could lend a few ideas on how to achieve the
 following.
 
 I have a link looking like this:
 
 Box A (Win 98)
  | Intranet
   | Linux Box
| Internet
 | Linux Box
  | Intranet
   | Box B (Win 2000)
 
 
 What I would like to do is mimic a COM port on Box A which is linked to
 another pretend COM port on Box B.
 
 Does anybody have much experience which programs which do this and where I
 can obtain them from?
 
 What I am trying to do is get a game of Transport Tycoon Deluxe going over
 the Internet :)
 
 We've tried an IPX gateway, but it's putting too much traffic and the
 latency is killing it.  The game also has null modem  modem options,
 which I'm hoping have less bloated packet algorithms.

If it hasn't been answered already it would be relatively easy to
setup a virtual serial cable for the Windows boxes to plug into at
each end. The two linux boxes would have to have a spare serial port
each and one would have to initiate the connection. You just run null
modem cables from the Windows boxes to the linux boxes.

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Re: [SLUG] recognising a scsi card

2000-06-02 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi slugs,
have been going through the various list suggestions.
used the adaptec software to reconfig the card.
read all the archive list, searching for Charlie Brady and SCSI.
have progressed a little bit

i'm typing the following...
modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x140,9,7,1,1
and the tape drive lights go on and there are tape accessing sounds.
lsmod reports...
aha152x27896   0  (unused)
i've tried insmod st but nothing happens. what's supposed to happen?
how do you get the /dev/st0 device to load?
anyway any further help would be much appreciated!


George Vieira wrote:

 try looking in /proc files as there alot of info there.
 also do a lsmod and see if the modules exist..
 you might even be able to do a
 insmod st
 which might load the /dev/st0 device... c how u go...


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[SLUG] Oh, about VI

2000-06-02 Thread Matt

For those of you who use a Windows version of Vi such a Vim(.org), Elvis, 
Calvin, Lemmy etc ..

Well, okay so i'm not really suprised that Lemmy does a bad job of emulating 
VI but Vim for Windows just doesnt feel like a standard Vim for Linux. Did 
anyone notice this ? Certain key strokes place things slightly different etc 
etc.

Does anyone here actually happily use a VI Emulator for Windows ?

Regards, Matt

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[SLUG] Big Pond Advance Satellite Service

2000-06-02 Thread Barrie Hall

Hi,
Has anyone had any experience / have any comments about Big Pond Advance
Satellite service under Linux?

Does anyone have this service working under Linux?

Does anyone know what a 'DAK' card is?

Cheers and TIA

Barrie



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Re: [SLUG] A decent text editor?

2000-06-02 Thread Anand Kumria

On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:48:48PM +1000, Peter Faulks wrote:
 Before you all say 'vi' -  I'm sure vi is a powerful editor, its just i'd like 
something a little
 bit more user-friendly.
 
 If any of you have used Boxer (Dos, OS/2, and now a Windoze ver as well), you'll know
 what I'm after. (if not, give it a go at http://www.boxersoftware.com)
 

Ah, religious wars ...

{{ personally I use vi and emacs, so I know the flaws of both }}

I've not looked at the boxer website; but if a graphical editor will do
then take a look at NEdit. For the console take a look at Nano.

Both are reasonably simple to operate with clear menu's.

HTH,
Anand
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Re: [SLUG] A decent text editor?

2000-06-02 Thread Sonam Chauhan

http://www.nedit.org  - a good and free text programmers editor. 
Multi language , real time syntax highlighting, split screens, C - like macros
Mac/Windows style shortcuts: Ctrl-C,Ctrl-X,Ctrl-V (cut/copy/pastel), Ctrl+Z, 
Ctrl+Shift+Z (undo, redo)
Incremental search, ect, ect.

--More from Nedit's help  --
Welcome to NEdit!

NEdit is a standard GUI (Graphical User Interface) style text editor for programs and 
plain-text files.  Users of
Macintosh and MS Windows based text editors should find NEdit a familiar and 
comfortable environment.  NEdit provides
all of the standard menu, dialog, editing, and mouse support, as well as all of the 
standard shortcuts to which the
users of modern GUI based environments are accustomed.  For users of older style Unix 
editors, welcome to the world of
mouse-based editing!
--End Excerpt--

only drawback - doesn't print as pretty as it displays.
Quick question - is there a lpr switch to print in landscape mode? 

Sonam


Tom Massey wrote:
 
 Peter Faulks wrote:
 
  Before you all say 'vi' -  I'm sure vi is a powerful editor, its just i'd like 
something a little
  bit more user-friendly.
 
 What about emacs? Or xemacs, which has reasonably friendly drop down
 menus, and even a version of Eliza if you need to talk to a psychiatrist
 (sp?) about your text editor choice. :-) (But actually vi is lots of fun
 to learn to use, and makes you feel like an 31337 h@x0r d00d if you
 learn all the commands. :-)
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Re : [SLUG] Win4Lin vs VMWare

2000-06-02 Thread steven




On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 John Ferlito wrote :

Has anyone tried both these products? How do they compare. I've used
vmware and it emulates the whole x86 system so it's fairly slow. Does
Win4Lin work like wine, ie just runs win apps? rather than windows itself.
How do they compare to wine for instance?

I have run both, although it was not v2 of vmware.  Win4Lin seems to run
MUCH faster than vmware.  Win4Lin does not seem quite as flexible in terms
of networking and I don't think there is sound support.

I am seriously considering putting a couple of Linux desktops into our
office running Win4Lin and seeing how it goes.

regards
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Re: [SLUG] Telnet from the Borg

2000-06-02 Thread Erich Schulz

On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote:
 I have just discovered that when I use M$ telnet to access a Linux box,
 when I close the connection the netstat -a shows the connection as CLOSE
 with details of the established socket rather then as LISTEN with no
 socket details.
 
 The effect of this is that I cannot establish another telnet connection to
 that port.
 
 How can I clear that entry from the netstat table short of rebooting the
 Linux box?  It doesn't seem to want to time out.
 
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Re: Re : [SLUG] Win4Lin vs VMWare

2000-06-02 Thread Jason Rennie

 I am seriously considering putting a couple of Linux desktops into our
 office running Win4Lin and seeing how it goes.

Could you let me know how this goes ?

Maybe you could do a slug talk on it if it goes well ?

I was planning to replace the windows box at my fathers work with win4lin
linuxboxes, and see if can swap one for the other

Jason

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Re: [SLUG] Oh, about VI

2000-06-02 Thread Rodos

On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Matt wrote:

 Well, okay so i'm not really suprised that Lemmy does a bad job of emulating 
 VI but Vim for Windows just doesnt feel like a standard Vim for Linux. Did 
 anyone notice this ? Certain key strokes place things slightly different etc 
 etc.

No, I am very happy with gvim under windows. Maybe I am not enough of a
power vi user to notice anything amis.

Rodos

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Re: [SLUG] A decent text editor?

2000-06-02 Thread Peter Faulks

I wrote:
If any of you have used Boxer (Dos, OS/2, and now a Windoze ver as well), you'll know
what I'm after. (if not, give it a go at http://www.boxersoftware.com)

Thanks for the replies, I guess I should have said "text mode" editor.

Boxer has a rich feature set, (anchors, multiple clipboards, column cut/paste, 
sorting, 
macros, customisable syntax highlighting, etc, etc, etc). I purchased the OS/2 and the 
Dos Vers (supports Win9x clipboard  long filenames) and I do ALL my text editing 
from simple stuff to programming with it.

For a similar feature set in Linux - hell, I'd even be prepared to pay for it!

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Re: [SLUG] recognising a scsi card

2000-06-02 Thread Ben Donohue

Chris MacKenzie wrote:Ok, since the module loads and your tape drive
reacts, what do you have in /proc ?

Hi slugs,
here's what i have in /proc.


[root@joe /proc]# pwd
/proc
[root@joe /proc]# cd scsi
[root@joe scsi]# ls -la
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root0 Jun  3 12:36 ./
dr-xr-xr-x  64 root root0 Jun  3  2000 ../
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root0 Jun  3 12:36 aha152x/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root0 Jun  3 12:36 scsi

[root@joe scsi]# cat scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SONY Model: SDT-9000 Rev: 0200
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
[root@joe scsi]#

[root@joe scsi]# cd aha152x/
[root@joe aha152x]# ls -la
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root0 Jun  3 12:36 ./
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root0 Jun  3 12:36 ../
-rw-r--r--   1 root root0 Jun  3 12:36 0
[root@joe aha152x]# cat 0
Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.7 $
ioports 0x0140 to 0x015f
interrupt 0x09
disconnection/reconnection enabled
parity checking enabled
synchronous transfers disabled
0 commands currently queued
enabled debugging options: (abort) (reset)

queue status:
no not yet issued commands
no current command
no disconnected commands

waiting: SCSISEQ (); SCSISIG (DATA OUT); INTSTAT (lo); SSTAT (SELINGO
BUSFREE PHASECHG ); SSTAT (); SXFRCTL0 (CH1 ); SIGNAL (); SELID (81),
SSTAT2 (SEMPTY ); SFCNT (0); SCSICNT (0), OFFCNT(0), SSTAT4 (); DMACNTRL0
(16BIT PIO READ INTEN ); DMASTAT (DFIFOEMP )

enabled interrupts ()


i suppose this looks good.
what next?


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Re: [SLUG] recognising a scsi card SUCCESS!

2000-06-02 Thread Ben Donohue

THANK-YOU
yes it works! thanks a million. no errors, tape activity etc.
now i'll have to try a backup/restore for a real test and try to do some
automation.
thanks again to Chris and all who helped.


Chris MacKenzie wrote:


 try using the mt to get some info from the drive

 mt -f /dev/st0 status

 and if all looks ok try a small backup with tar

 cd /
 tar cvf /dev/st0 /boot/*

 then verify it with tar dvf /dev/st0
 if you don't get any errors then you can be pretty sure that you scsi
 card and dat drive are working pretty well.

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[SLUG] re: scsi cards (query about model)

2000-06-02 Thread Michael Fox

Afternoon,

I have a little question in reference to SCSI controller cards. In the past
I have used Adaptec 154x ,2940UW and 2940U2W cards. The newer 2940 series is
somewhat very expensive.

Recently I have seen the following card,

SCSI controller, IWill SIDE 2936UW PCI Ultra Wide SCSI Adapter, with on
board BIOS. Comes with 3 connector 50pin cable and 3 connector 68pin cable.
Retail pack with thorough manual. Both PC and Mac G3 compatible. Supports
all major OS, including Linux.

My question is, anyone happen to own one? I am curious about how well they
actually do work with Linux :)

Thanks
Michael

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[SLUG] a Little more on Vi

2000-06-02 Thread Matt

About "mousing around" in Windows,

The only reason why I feel VI makes editing faster is the fact that you can 
type a number before any sets of commands, going up 5 lines is quicker in Vi 
than Windows, other than that .. get with it Linux users :)

CTRL ZXCV are the basics, CTRL Arrows (move words at a time), CTRL 
PageUp/Down = top/bottom of document. Shift CTRL Left/Right Del .. kill a 
bunch of words, Shift Up/Down Del, kill a few lines ..

It's not that bad .. ATM I could 5x faster in Editplus/Ultraedit than VI, 
and i'm not *that* bad with VI

Btw, how can HJKL be faster ? Or is that being used less and less now ?
I'm trying to force myself to use the keys (yeh, bind Quake's WASD keys to 
HJKL) :))



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