Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-26 Thread Pete McNeil
At 09:10 AM 3/26/2004, you wrote:

On Mar 25, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Pete McNeil wrote:

 ERROR_BAD_MATRIX is definitely a corrupted rulebase file. A manual 
download should solve the problem.
Should not snf2check.exe detect this?  If the sniffer can detect it, it 
seems that the checker should too.
No. snf2check.exe does a static check on part of the file.

ERROR_BAD_MATRIX is a run time error produced when one of the creatures 
tries to run into memory space that it shouldn't. Only the creature running 
into that bad part of the token matrix discovers the problem currently - 
that part of the file was not checked by snf2check.

_M



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Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-26 Thread Pete McNeil
That's one option we're considering.
_M
At 10:34 AM 3/26/2004, you wrote:
Maybe it is time to look at a new snf2check.exe.

One that has some checksum ability.

Say you download two files not one.

One with the rules and the other a checksum file.

Just a thought on how to keep corrupt rules from being put into production.

Fred
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From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix
 At 09:10 AM 3/26/2004, you wrote:

 On Mar 25, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Pete McNeil wrote:
 
   ERROR_BAD_MATRIX is definitely a corrupted rulebase file. A manual
  download should solve the problem.
 
 Should not snf2check.exe detect this?  If the sniffer can detect it, it
 seems that the checker should too.

 No. snf2check.exe does a static check on part of the file.

 ERROR_BAD_MATRIX is a run time error produced when one of the creatures
 tries to run into memory space that it shouldn't. Only the creature
running
 into that bad part of the token matrix discovers the problem currently -
 that part of the file was not checked by snf2check.

 _M



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Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-25 Thread Heimir Eidskrem
I am having the same problem when I download the update and run snf2check

H.

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix



 I run snf2check.exe against every .snf file downloaded.  I just checked it
 again manually, and no errors were reported.  I now have almost 3500
 Error_Bad_Matrix entries in today's log.

 Bill

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 From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:52 PM
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 Subject: Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix



 On Mar 25, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Paul Lushinsky wrote:

  I decided to look in my log files for the past several days because of
  number of Error_Bad_Matrix related messages. I can't find this message
  in any of my log files until today starting with the update I auto
  downloaded at 8:15 this morning, and went until the update at noon.
  While I was look at the log file, another update notice came, so an
  update was done and the Error_Bad_Matrix message is back.
 


 I'm curious if the people who are seeing these messages are running
 snf2check.exe before making the rule files live.  I do so, and have not
 seen a single instance of this error.

 Can you run snf2check.exe on the current bad matrix you have and see if
 it reports an error?


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Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-25 Thread Pete McNeil
I've been looking at that. The problem seems to be related to downloads, 
not generation. That is, every rulebase that I use locally has been clean 
throughout this episode. Also, folks who manually download the rulebase 
seem to be able to correct the problem. I'm not sure yet what is different 
between automated and manual downloads - except perhaps wget. I also don't 
have any obvious changes on our system recently. I continue to dig.

_M

At 03:39 PM 3/25/2004, you wrote:
Pete,

I decided to look in my log files for the past several days because of 
number of Error_Bad_Matrix related messages. I can't find this message in 
any of my log files until today starting with the update I auto downloaded 
at 8:15 this morning, and went until the update at noon. While I was look 
at the log file, another update notice came, so an update was done and the 
Error_Bad_Matrix message is back.

I am using the latest production version of sniffer.

I know you are probably working on this, but I thought you should know for 
sure that your process for building the rulebase is experiencing some 
major issues.

All times are -0600 GMT.

   -Original Message-
   From: Butch Andrews  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:23  AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [sniffer]  Error_Bad_Matrix
 
   I am seeing my log file continue to fill with  Error_Bad_Matrix errors
   and sniffer failing since a lot of spam is  getting through. I was
   running the beta but have gone back to the original  version just now. I
   did amanual update when the program change had no effect  and it's back
   up. I checked last nights log and the problem started with date  code
   20040325083243 and continued until now. This is for your info since 
I was
   using the beta.
 
   -Butch

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RE: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-25 Thread Pete McNeil
snf2check.exe will catch a partial download but it will not catch 
corruption in the middle of the file.

_M

At 03:57 PM 3/25/2004, you wrote:

I run snf2check.exe against every .snf file downloaded.  I just checked it
again manually, and no errors were reported.  I now have almost 3500
Error_Bad_Matrix entries in today's log.
Bill

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From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix


On Mar 25, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Paul Lushinsky wrote:

 I decided to look in my log files for the past several days because of
 number of Error_Bad_Matrix related messages. I can't find this message
 in any of my log files until today starting with the update I auto
 downloaded at 8:15 this morning, and went until the update at noon.
 While I was look at the log file, another update notice came, so an
 update was done and the Error_Bad_Matrix message is back.

I'm curious if the people who are seeing these messages are running
snf2check.exe before making the rule files live.  I do so, and have not
seen a single instance of this error.
Can you run snf2check.exe on the current bad matrix you have and see if
it reports an error?
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Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-25 Thread Matt
Pete,

FYI, I was trying to set up log uploads yesterday night and it took me a 
while to figure out that the FTP connection was unreliable from my 
server.  Packets were being dropped/munged somewhere.  I also noted a 
much lower hit rate on SNIFFER-PHARMACY yesterday, but no indication of 
matrix problems in the logs today (yesterday's were deleted).

Every once in a while my colocator's border router goes on the fritz and 
starts dropping packets.  A reboot usually fixes that issue.

If your router checks out fine, you might want to take a look at the 
routes going from your server to the customers that have indicated a 
problem and those that have indicated that there is none, that might 
identify something not so obvious if you run out of ideas.

I know how these things go and the worst part is not knowing the source 
while others expect an quick fix.  No big deal on my end in the mean 
time though.

Matt



Pete McNeil wrote:

snf2check.exe will catch a partial download but it will not catch 
corruption in the middle of the file.

_M

At 03:57 PM 3/25/2004, you wrote:

I run snf2check.exe against every .snf file downloaded.  I just 
checked it
again manually, and no errors were reported.  I now have almost 3500
Error_Bad_Matrix entries in today's log.

Bill

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From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix


On Mar 25, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Paul Lushinsky wrote:

 I decided to look in my log files for the past several days because of
 number of Error_Bad_Matrix related messages. I can't find this message
 in any of my log files until today starting with the update I auto
 downloaded at 8:15 this morning, and went until the update at noon.
 While I was look at the log file, another update notice came, so an
 update was done and the Error_Bad_Matrix message is back.

I'm curious if the people who are seeing these messages are running
snf2check.exe before making the rule files live.  I do so, and have not
seen a single instance of this error.
Can you run snf2check.exe on the current bad matrix you have and see if
it reports an error?
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Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix

2004-03-25 Thread Pete McNeil
I'm getting to be pretty sure it's Sprint. After bouncing the router there 
have been 109 carrier transitions in 3 hours. That's insane. I will be 
pounding on them.
_M

At 11:44 PM 3/25/2004, you wrote:
Pete,

FYI, I was trying to set up log uploads yesterday night and it took me a 
while to figure out that the FTP connection was unreliable from my 
server.  Packets were being dropped/munged somewhere.  I also noted a much 
lower hit rate on SNIFFER-PHARMACY yesterday, but no indication of matrix 
problems in the logs today (yesterday's were deleted).

Every once in a while my colocator's border router goes on the fritz and 
starts dropping packets.  A reboot usually fixes that issue.

If your router checks out fine, you might want to take a look at the 
routes going from your server to the customers that have indicated a 
problem and those that have indicated that there is none, that might 
identify something not so obvious if you run out of ideas.

I know how these things go and the worst part is not knowing the source 
while others expect an quick fix.  No big deal on my end in the mean time 
though.

Matt



Pete McNeil wrote:

snf2check.exe will catch a partial download but it will not catch 
corruption in the middle of the file.

_M

At 03:57 PM 3/25/2004, you wrote:

I run snf2check.exe against every .snf file downloaded.  I just checked it
again manually, and no errors were reported.  I now have almost 3500
Error_Bad_Matrix entries in today's log.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Error_Bad_Matrix


On Mar 25, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Paul Lushinsky wrote:

 I decided to look in my log files for the past several days because of
 number of Error_Bad_Matrix related messages. I can't find this message
 in any of my log files until today starting with the update I auto
 downloaded at 8:15 this morning, and went until the update at noon.
 While I was look at the log file, another update notice came, so an
 update was done and the Error_Bad_Matrix message is back.

I'm curious if the people who are seeing these messages are running
snf2check.exe before making the rule files live.  I do so, and have not
seen a single instance of this error.
Can you run snf2check.exe on the current bad matrix you have and see if
it reports an error?
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