Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down?
John: We are able to download updates fine. Could be some routing issues. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 3:23 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down? I am getting errors since late last night that host can not be found. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down?
Connecting to www.sortmonster.net[207.97.229.114]:80... connected. As of 1 minute ago. Shaun Sturby, MCSE Manager - Technical Services Optrics Engineering - Solution Partners Network Specialists Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.Optrics.com United States: 1740 S 300 West #10 Clearfield, UT, 84015 Phone: 1-877-430-6240 Fax: (801) 705-3150 Canada: 6810 104 St. Edmonton, AB Canada T6H 2L6 Phone: 1-877-463-7638 Fax: (780) 432-5630 Optrics Engineering and FundSoft are divisions of Optrics Inc. -Original Message- From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 3:23 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down? I am getting errors since late last night that host can not be found. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down?
Hi John, I got my Sniffer update at 5:03 pm no problem from Toronto Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -Original Message- From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:23 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down? I am getting errors since late last night that host can not be found. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down?
Well, I figured out what the problem is, sort of. This last Monday I finally reconfigured the network at my Data Center for using 2 Internet connections. For some reason, DNS queries going out the secondary connection are timing out. Fun Fun Fun. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 3:57 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down? Hi John, I got my Sniffer update at 5:03 pm no problem from Toronto Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -Original Message- From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:23 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down? I am getting errors since late last night that host can not be found. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down?
Hello John, Friday, June 2, 2006, 5:22:45 PM, you wrote: I am getting errors since late last night that host can not be found. I checked your license record and finding no problems successfully downloaded your rulebase file from the expected URL. Not sure what could be going on but it seems it must be local based on what I've seen so far. _M -- Pete McNeil Chief Scientist, Arm Research Labs, LLC. # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates
Kevin Stanford wrote: Our updates seem to be taking a very long time. I am 85% updated and the ETA shows 07:00. Is it me? I see stuff like this come and go... Our updates are (finally) triggered from the email notifications... Below is a snippet of the last update that shows exactly what speeds we saw, which ran at 10:45 EST this morning... Every once in a while, I will see it slow down to about 8KB/s, but rarely slower than that... Thanks, Russ (This will probably wrap and look real ugly, but the last number is the average download speed for that part of the download...) 0K .. .. .. .. .. 0% 110.38 KB/s 50K .. .. .. .. .. 1% 160.26 KB/s 100K .. .. .. .. .. 2% 71.12 KB/s 150K .. .. .. .. .. 3% 110.13 KB/s 200K .. .. .. .. .. 4% 118.76 KB/s 250K .. .. .. .. .. 5% 145.35 KB/s 300K .. .. .. .. .. 6% 168.35 KB/s 350K .. .. .. .. .. 7% 168.35 KB/s 400K .. .. .. .. .. 8% 168.35 KB/s 450K .. .. .. .. .. 9% 160.26 KB/s 500K .. .. .. .. .. 10% 159.74 KB/s 550K .. .. .. .. .. 11% 188.68 KB/s 600K .. .. .. .. .. 12% 177.30 KB/s 650K .. .. .. .. .. 13% 168.35 KB/s 700K .. .. .. .. .. 14% 177.94 KB/s 750K .. .. .. .. .. 15% 168.35 KB/s 800K .. .. .. .. .. 16% 177.94 KB/s 850K .. .. .. .. .. 17% 168.35 KB/s 900K .. .. .. .. .. 18% 168.35 KB/s 950K .. .. .. .. .. 19% 168.35 KB/s 1000K .. .. .. .. .. 20% 168.92 KB/s 1050K .. .. .. .. .. 21% 159.74 KB/s 1100K .. .. .. .. .. 22% 168.35 KB/s 1150K .. .. .. .. .. 23% 177.94 KB/s 1200K .. .. .. .. .. 24% 177.94 KB/s 1250K .. .. .. .. .. 25% 159.74 KB/s 1300K .. .. .. .. .. 26% 177.94 KB/s 1350K .. .. .. .. .. 27% 168.35 KB/s 1400K .. .. .. .. .. 28% 168.35 KB/s 1450K .. .. .. .. .. 29% 168.35 KB/s 1500K .. .. .. .. .. 30% 168.35 KB/s 1550K .. .. .. .. .. 31% 177.94 KB/s 1600K .. .. .. .. .. 32% 168.35 KB/s 1650K .. .. .. .. .. 33% 168.35 KB/s 1700K .. .. .. .. .. 34% 168.92 KB/s 1750K .. .. .. .. .. 35% 168.35 KB/s 1800K .. .. .. .. .. 36% 159.74 KB/s 1850K .. .. .. .. .. 37% 177.94 KB/s 1900K .. .. .. .. .. 38% 91.41 KB/s 1950K .. .. .. .. .. 39% 86.51 KB/s 2000K .. .. .. .. .. 40% 86.51 KB/s 2050K .. .. .. .. .. 41% 81.97 KB/s 2100K .. .. .. .. .. 42% 97.09 KB/s 2150K .. .. .. .. .. 43% 86.51 KB/s 2200K .. .. .. .. .. 44% 81.97 KB/s 2250K .. .. .. .. .. 45% 61.58 KB/s 2300K .. .. .. .. .. 46% 60.39 KB/s 2350K .. .. .. .. .. 47% 40.00 KB/s 2400K .. .. .. .. .. 48% 159.74 KB/s 2450K .. .. .. .. .. 49% 88.97 KB/s 2500K .. .. .. .. .. 50% 80.00 KB/s 2550K .. .. .. .. .. 51% 88.81 KB/s 2600K .. .. .. .. .. 52% 86.51 KB/s 2650K .. .. .. .. .. 53% 86.51 KB/s 2700K .. .. .. .. .. 54% 86.51 KB/s 2750K .. .. .. .. .. 55% 84.18 KB/s
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates
I too am seeing really slow speeds, I'm running an update now and it is only downloading at about 3k/sec. Pretty bad considering we have 2 T1's and a DS3 none of which have much traffic on them this morning. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Russ Uhte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates Kevin Stanford wrote: Our updates seem to be taking a very long time. I am 85% updated and the ETA shows 07:00. Is it me? I see stuff like this come and go... Our updates are (finally) triggered from the email notifications... Below is a snippet of the last update that shows exactly what speeds we saw, which ran at 10:45 EST this morning... Every once in a while, I will see it slow down to about 8KB/s, but rarely slower than that... Thanks, Russ (This will probably wrap and look real ugly, but the last number is the average download speed for that part of the download...) 0K .. .. .. .. .. 0% 110.38 KB/s 50K .. .. .. .. .. 1% 160.26 KB/s 100K .. .. .. .. .. 2% 71.12 KB/s 150K .. .. .. .. .. 3% 110.13 KB/s 200K .. .. .. .. .. 4% 118.76 KB/s 250K .. .. .. .. .. 5% 145.35 KB/s 300K .. .. .. .. .. 6% 168.35 KB/s 350K .. .. .. .. .. 7% 168.35 KB/s 400K .. .. .. .. .. 8% 168.35 KB/s 450K .. .. .. .. .. 9% 160.26 KB/s 500K .. .. .. .. .. 10% 159.74 KB/s 550K .. .. .. .. .. 11% 188.68 KB/s 600K .. .. .. .. .. 12% 177.30 KB/s 650K .. .. .. .. .. 13% 168.35 KB/s 700K .. .. .. .. .. 14% 177.94 KB/s 750K .. .. .. .. .. 15% 168.35 KB/s 800K .. .. .. .. .. 16% 177.94 KB/s 850K .. .. .. .. .. 17% 168.35 KB/s 900K .. .. .. .. .. 18% 168.35 KB/s 950K .. .. .. .. .. 19% 168.35 KB/s 1000K .. .. .. .. .. 20% 168.92 KB/s 1050K .. .. .. .. .. 21% 159.74 KB/s 1100K .. .. .. .. .. 22% 168.35 KB/s 1150K .. .. .. .. .. 23% 177.94 KB/s 1200K .. .. .. .. .. 24% 177.94 KB/s 1250K .. .. .. .. .. 25% 159.74 KB/s 1300K .. .. .. .. .. 26% 177.94 KB/s 1350K .. .. .. .. .. 27% 168.35 KB/s 1400K .. .. .. .. .. 28% 168.35 KB/s 1450K .. .. .. .. .. 29% 168.35 KB/s 1500K .. .. .. .. .. 30% 168.35 KB/s 1550K .. .. .. .. .. 31% 177.94 KB/s 1600K .. .. .. .. .. 32% 168.35 KB/s 1650K .. .. .. .. .. 33% 168.35 KB/s 1700K .. .. .. .. .. 34% 168.92 KB/s 1750K .. .. .. .. .. 35% 168.35 KB/s 1800K .. .. .. .. .. 36% 159.74 KB/s 1850K .. .. .. .. .. 37% 177.94 KB/s 1900K .. .. .. .. .. 38% 91.41 KB/s 1950K .. .. .. .. .. 39% 86.51 KB/s 2000K .. .. .. .. .. 40% 86.51 KB/s 2050K .. .. .. .. .. 41% 81.97 KB/s 2100K .. .. .. .. .. 42% 97.09 KB/s 2150K .. .. .. .. .. 43% 86.51 KB/s 2200K .. .. .. .. .. 44% 81.97 KB/s 2250K .. .. .. .. .. 45% 61.58 KB/s 2300K .. .. .. .. .. 46% 60.39 KB/s 2350K .. .. .. .. .. 47% 40.00 KB/s 2400K .. .. .. .. .. 48% 159.74 KB/s 2450K .. .. .. .. .. 49% 88.97
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates
It's actually getting worse now with a timed out transfer and now under 1k a sec: Resolving www.sortmonster.net... done.Connecting to www.sortmonster.net[216.88.37.61]:80... connected.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OKLength: 11,104,576 [application/x-sortmonster] 19% [== ] 2,141,361 2.99K/s ETA 48:46 09:29:12 (2.99 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 2141361. Retrying. Connecting to www.sortmonster.net[216.88.37.61]:80... connected.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OKLength: 11,104,576 [application/x-sortmonster] 0% [ ] 87,921 993.81B/s ETA 3:04:45 Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jim Matuska" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates I too am seeing really slow speeds, I'm running an update now and it is only downloading at about 3k/sec. Pretty bad considering we have 2 T1's and a DS3 none of which have much traffic on them this morning. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Russ Uhte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates Kevin Stanford wrote: Our updates seem to be taking a very long time. I am 85% updated and the ETA shows 07:00. Is it me? I see stuff like this come and go... Our updates are (finally) triggered from the email notifications... Below is a snippet of the last update that shows exactly what speeds we saw, which ran at 10:45 EST this morning... Every once in a while, I will see it slow down to about 8KB/s, but rarely slower than that... Thanks, Russ (This will probably wrap and look real ugly, but the last number is the average download speed for that part of the download...) 0K .. .. .. .. .. 0% 110.38 KB/s 50K .. .. .. .. .. 1% 160.26 KB/s 100K .. .. .. .. .. 2% 71.12 KB/s 150K .. .. .. .. .. 3% 110.13 KB/s 200K .. .. .. .. .. 4% 118.76 KB/s 250K .. .. .. .. .. 5% 145.35 KB/s 300K .. .. .. .. .. 6% 168.35 KB/s 350K .. .. .. .. .. 7% 168.35 KB/s 400K .. .. .. .. .. 8% 168.35 KB/s 450K .. .. .. .. .. 9% 160.26 KB/s 500K .. .. .. .. .. 10% 159.74 KB/s 550K .. .. .. .. .. 11% 188.68 KB/s 600K .. .. .. .. .. 12% 177.30 KB/s 650K .. .. .. .. .. 13% 168.35 KB/s 700K .. .. .. .. .. 14% 177.94 KB/s 750K .. .. .. .. .. 15% 168.35 KB/s 800K .. .. .. .. .. 16% 177.94 KB/s 850K .. .. .. .. .. 17% 168.35 KB/s 900K .. .. .. .. .. 18% 168.35 KB/s 950K .. .. .. .. .. 19% 168.35 KB/s 1000K .. .. .. .. .. 20% 168.92 KB/s 1050K .. .. .. .. .. 21% 159.74 KB/s 1100K .. .. .. .. .. 22% 168.35 KB/s 1150K .. .. .. .. .. 23% 177.94 KB/s 1200K .. .. .. .. .. 24% 177.94 KB/s 1250K .. .. .. .. .. 25% 159.74 KB/s 1300K .. .. .. .. .. 26% 177.94 KB/s 1350K .. .. .. .. .. 27% 168.35 KB/s 1400K .. .. .. .. .. 28% 168.35 KB/s 1450K .. .. .. .. .. 29% 168.35 KB/s 1500K .. .. .. .. .. 30% 168.35 KB/s 1550K .. .. .. .. .. 31% 177.94 KB/s 1600K .. .. .. .. .. 32% 168.35 KB/s 1650K .. .. .. .. .. 33% 168.35 KB/s 1700K .. .. .. .. .. 34% 168.92 KB/s 1750K .. .. .. .. .. 35% 168.35 KB/s 1800K .. .. .. .. .. 36% 159.74 KB/s 1850K .. .. .. .. .. 37%
RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message I currently use mxGuard. It works great for me with F-Prot, ClamAV, and Message Sniffer. Declude has more configuration options, but for the price mxGuard is hard to beat. Plus the cost is low enough that you can afford to purchase more than one copy if you have multiple servers. As far as license is concerned, they use an installation key that is tied to the OHN in IMail. Craig From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Wolf Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware phone home system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and I'm going to make a change. Thanks, Joe
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
snip/ JW Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have JW direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much JW to deal with and I'm going to make a change. http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Installation/HowTo.html There are others also, not officially listed yet. _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message Joe, In their defense, I don't think that they necessarily knew any better than to have approached it this way. I don't necessarily get that the new ownership has worked from the IT side of the business before and understands security and trust as a corporate administrator would, in fact Barry comes from the marketing side of the business and I'm afraid that this is a bit of trial-by-fire. I expect (hope) that he will get the message and change their ways before this will be released in final format. Scott didn't have the resources to enforce licensing, and as a business, this is critical to their success. I have no qualms with that goal. They didn't intend to violate privacy or functionality, they just overlooked it. The whole IMail debacle is a different story. Most everyone using Declude on that platform will eventually be switching, and Declude has been more than fair by offering free migrations of their license to a different platform, starting with SmarterMail which is very reasonably priced and seemingly quite responsive to their customers. Matt Joe Wolf wrote: I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware "phone home" system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and I'm going to make a change. Thanks, Joe -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message There's a Sniffer plugin for MDaemon v8.0 (MD 8.0 is still in beta) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe WolfSent: woensdag 22 december 2004 15:42To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware "phone home" system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and I'm going to make a change. Thanks, Joe
RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message Joe, I will back up Matts comments. Declude has/is indeed suffering from less than honest/moral individuals/companies and they are correct in taking steps to protect their products and company. Only the method they are using is being questioned. Believe me, those of us heavily involved in Imail/Declude are monitoring this issue and voicing our opinions, both publicly and privately. Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... Joe, In their defense, I don't think that they necessarily knew any better than to have approached it this way. I don't necessarily get that the new ownership has worked from the IT side of the business before and understands security and trust as a corporate administrator would, in fact Barry comes from the marketing side of the business and I'm afraid that this is a bit of trial-by-fire. I expect (hope) that he will get the message and change their ways before this will be released in final format. Scott didn't have the resources to enforce licensing, and as a business, this is critical to their success. I have no qualms with that goal. They didn't intend to violate privacy or functionality, they just overlooked it. The whole IMail debacle is a different story. Most everyone using Declude on that platform will eventually be switching, and Declude has been more than fair by offering free migrations of their license to a different platform, starting with SmarterMail which is very reasonably priced and seemingly quite responsive to their customers. Matt Joe Wolf wrote: I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware phone home system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and I'm going to make a change. Thanks, Joe -- =MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro.http://www.mailpure.com/software/=
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message After much debate we decided to abandon Declude/Imail and switch to Mdaemon and will migrate sniffer to the new platform. Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joe Wolf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware "phone home" system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and I'm going to make a change. Thanks, Joe
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message I may have missed this if it was discussed. But my last conversation with IPSwitch is that as a current user of IMail I can continue to purchase support and keep getting updates to the IMail portions without going to the new product. The person told me that the Collaboration Suite will still use the IMail core so IMail will continue to be developed as a product. I just can not purchase IMail by itself anymore. So my understanding is that IMail will still be updated for existing users. _Scott Fosseen - Systems Engineer -Prairie Lakes AEAhttp://fosseen.us/scott_Its not the amendment with which I disagree. Its the contents ofthe amendment. - Representative Naomi Farve (D-New Orleans)_ - Original Message - From: Joe Wolf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:41 AM Subject: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware "phone home" system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and I'm going to make a change. Thanks, Joe
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message Scott Fosseen wrote: I may have missed this if it was discussed. But my last conversation with IPSwitch is that as a current user of IMail I can continue to purchase support and keep getting updates to the IMail portions without going to the new product. The person told me that the Collaboration Suite will still use the IMail core so IMail will continue to be developed as a product. I just can not purchase IMail by itself anymore. So my understanding is that IMail will still be updated for existing users. ...sure, for a 40% increase in cost for your support contract, and absolutely no guarantee that they won't again cancel the product like they did a couple of months ago, only to offer a concession with this huge increase in price for a product that they have indicated clearly wouldn't be marketed to anyone but existing customers and new purchases would have to be negotiated by calling them on the phone and proving to them that you are worth their time. This was nothing but a way to recover some of the money that they were clearly going to lose by not offering the option at all. Don't be a sucker for their game, at least know what you are getting. This is the same company that claimed that their customer base was "clamoring" for a a collaboration suite and mandatory bundling with Symantec AntiVirus that required a repurchase of the software for $6,000 dollars (unlimited users) and a yearly support contract of $4,000 after that. Please don't get me started :) Matt -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...
Title: Message John, I've always respected your opinions. I've respected Scott at Declude as well, but I don't think he has much to say about what happens there anymore. The powers to be at Declude obviously look at their customers as theives trying to steal their product. I have installed a version of Declude that is not covered under by any current service policy in attempts to solve a problem. When I discovered the old version of Declude was not the problem I reverted back. My attempt was rewarded with a threatening email message. I looked at it quite differently. I have no need or want for the new Declude "features", but if the old version I purchased was defective I am due version that worked as advertised. It was up to me to find that out. I'm perfectly happy with the old version, and I expect it to work as advertised. Their attitude is a spin off of the Ipswitch attitude to move on to new versions without ever fixing the old ones. For example, the new version of Declude (2.0) lists 10 new features. Of those 10, four are listed as "fixes" for older versions. I know I'm in the minority but I believe it is Declude's responsibility to provide a fully functional 1.x verson to those who purchased it. The 2.0 should only include new features, not fixes from previous versions. If I wanted to purcase 2.0 for the new features that would be fine, but to be forced to purchase a new version or service agreement to get fixes for problems in a version you already purcased is just plain wrong. What if that mentality were to be accepted in the automobile business? You buy a new car and the air conditioner doesn't work. You're told that instead of the 2004 model you purchased you should pay to upgrade to a 2005 model because we finally got the air conditioner working for 2005. Doesn't matter that your 2004 was advertised with air conditioning or not. I've had it with that kind of attitude. I want a simple, efficient mail server that does exactly what is advertised. Nothing more, nothing less. As for Sniffer. I've had no complaints with it at all. Seems to do exactly what I was told it would do. Thanks to everyone for their input! -Joe - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... Joe, I will back up Matts comments. Declude has/is indeed suffering from less than honest/moral individuals/companies and they are correct in taking steps to protect their products and company. Only the method they are using is being questioned. Believe me, those of us heavily involved in Imail/Declude are monitoring this issue and voicing our opinions, both publicly and privately. Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... Joe,In their defense, I don't think that they necessarily knew any better than to have approached it this way. I don't necessarily get that the new ownership has worked from the IT side of the business before and understands security and trust as a corporate administrator would, in fact Barry comes from the marketing side of the business and I'm afraid that this is a bit of trial-by-fire. I expect (hope) that he will get the message and change their ways before this will be released in final format. Scott didn't have the resources to enforce licensing, and as a business, this is critical to their success. I have no qualms with that goal. They didn't intend to violate privacy or functionality, they just overlooked it.The whole IMail debacle is a different story. Most everyone using Declude on that platform will eventually be switching, and Declude has been more than fair by offering free migrations of their license to a different platform, starting with SmarterMail which is very reasonably priced and seemingly quite responsive to their customers.MattJoe Wolf wrote: I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run multiple NIC's in the same machine and am multi-homed. Their spyware "phone home" system is a violation of our security policies as well. That leads me to Sniffer. I love the product. Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have direct support for Sniffer? The Imail / Declude thing is too much to deal with and
