[RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
Gun control? What if only 10 % of the folks on those doomed flights were packin heat? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3J Team selections
This was my 3rd team selection (2 F3J, 1 F3B) and I really like the high level of competition you have at team selections. The normal TD contest like the FSF, are more social events and much less challenging as a whole. Don't get me wrong you don't see my name at the top of the leader board at most contests but I like good high level competition and I found it at the team selections every time. Thoughts for next time: Team Protection: In the future I would like to see 4-man team protection as the norm. F3J is labor intensive and we all say we want more participation in F3J contests. 4 men are the max allowed on the field, 1 pilot 3 helpers. If everyone on the team is also a pilot then you don't need to Hire a tow man. Of course in the fly off all protection is out. Carrying scores: For us bottom feeders carrying scores wont help us make the team at all but it does allow the better pilots to win a competition not a crap shoot. 2-man tow w/stake: It has worked every time for me and it equals the tow power available. With a 2-man stake tow and a little wind the launch power is very equal for all the teams. I am sure there are 40+ other stories about the F3J team selection, for me I would like to thank my teammates for caring my weight thought the competition (I couldn't tow this time) and I would like to thank SOAR for hosting the selections and rounding up the workforce to put on a good show. I know my club in So Cal wouldn't have the manpower to run such an event If you like great competition and want to learn more about the finer points of our hobby I highly recommend getting involved in the team selection process, until we get more FAI type events in the USA it's the only game in town. BTW. Aren't you all bored with the regular launch and land contests yet? Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.F3X.com ph/fax 949-645 7032 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
Which 10%? That would mean the terrorists would have been allowed weapons also. I would rather relinquish my pocket knife than have any weapons on the plane. Kick 'em in the balls. If the passengers would have known what we know now, they would have rushed them all together - can't rush an automatic weapon that easily. T Phil wrote: Gun control? What if only 10 % of the folks on those doomed flights were packin heat? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TG http://adesigner.com/invention 32 Mount View Dr. Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 Fax 540 943-4178 Member BBB (Better Business Bureau) AAM (American Association of Museums) VAM (Virginia Association of Museums) BRIC (Blue Ridge Inventors' Club) AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #134
- How can we make sure, or at least fairly sure, this won't happen again? Yes, that is the question. Last week most Americans would have bulked at being photographed and fingerprinted before being allowed to board an airplane. Perhaps not today. I do not believe my personal freedom would be diminished if required to have a 'domestic' passport SNIP I have a real aversion to the knee jerk reaction of losing more freedoms in the name of safety Benjamin Franklin said Those people that would give away their hard earned freedoms for security will end up with Neither! Any jerk can have a false identification card and get on to a flight. If they had 3 or more people, they wouldn't even have needed weapons. Most people freeze and deny what is going on until it is too late to react. An armed guard or flight crew (with a better cabin door) is the only thing that could have thwarted this sort of act. They will also have to have a protocal wherein the crew and passengers are expendable rather than giving up control of the plane. I have heard they are already screening for knifes and even plastic cutlery. This is utter nonsense focusing on the weapon instead of making examples of criminals before anything escalates to this degree. There are plenty of sharp objects that will make it through a detector. Maybe they should pass out large knifes as you board the plane. How far do you think a hijacker would get against an armed mob of passengers now? I'm not trying to start a flame war, we are all in a bit of a rage, but more public control is ALWAYS the worst solution and it never works anyway... Mark Mech [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Torrey Pines Glider Port
Ok, That's it, now I'm mad...The FAA has determined that a RC'r or parasailer may pose a terrorest threat. Well, maybe if the wind is really up. Larry - Original Message - I just got back from Torreypines. Dave said the FAA shut the port down(gliders, paragliders, and R/C). RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
In a message dated 9/13/2001 5:37:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would rather relinquish my pocket knife than have any weapons on the plane. Where I live, if the bad guy can't run 850' per second, he has a problem. :-) Bill G. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Ok...then what did really happen..Jims Animal friend
Gordon, Jim's animal friend was Joe Dirr, of the Cincinnati Club !! Joe towed the whole event, primarilary for the McCarthy team as a relief and for me. Based on what he saw, the whole contest, Joe has gone and bit the dust and now has a couple of fine F3J machines on the way...guess that he figured out that flying was gonna be even more fun that towing.. Look for him in the future... Best of Luck !! 8-) Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF President LSF Level IV Loveland, OH From: Gordon Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Ok...then what did really happen Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:11:23 -0700 At 12:22 PM 9/13/01 -0400, Jason Werner wrote: As someone who was supposed to be at the team selections (Midway airport is a fin place to sleep :), I missed the excitement. So what did happen? What was the REAL story behind Gordon flying out of turn? Any other facts? There was some confusion (most of it in my head) as to which round we were flying and who was in it. We had a 4 man team, and as such flew in *every* group in *every* round. I stepped up to fly one group early (in Darrell Zaballos' slot), an error which was not pointed out by the official timer (who had the pilot's name on the score card for reference). Not that it was the timer's responsibility, but after a day and a half of Gordon/Joe/Gavin/Darrell/Gavin/Joe/Gordon/Darrell/Darrell/Gordon... You get the point. Or maybe not. I can blame it on jet-lag, since we were still pretty much on Czech Republic time during the trials. After the flight the error was detected, the CD (Phil Renaud) was presented with the facts: I, as team manager and pilot, fouled up. His choices were: 1) Zero both of us. 2) Zero Darrell for not flying in his slot. Let me fly in the correct slot. 3) Zero me for being stupid, let Darrell fly in my slot. 4) Apply mercy, swap the flight order. Phil went for #4. This went unprotested at the contest. Stop just throwing insults, and explain SIMPLY AND CLEARLY what your perspective was and let people know. Right now there is no one on your side. The other controversy: 4 Man Protection The CD decided to extend protection to 4 man teams (from the original 3 man team protection). There were two 4 man teams, and no teams larger than 4. The CD put the change in protection to a vote and no team opposed the procedure change. I think that Phil's decisions at the team selection were strongly driven by a desire to see the team selected in the air, rather than in the usual ground/rules war that seems to accompany every FAI event. One Last Note: I'd like to thank my team mates (Gavin Botha, Joe Wurts, Darrell Zaballos) for whatever it was they did (and it was plenty, to be sure) to get me on the team. Huge thanks go out to John Asplund (tower and caller), and the towing services of Jim Bacus, Rick Griebenow, Karl Miller and Jim's animal friend (whose name regrettably escapes me). You guys were great, and great launches were the norm. Gordon Jennings Saddened by recent events Proud to be on the team RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Helios
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/news/cache/ReutersOnlineScience/08_14_2001.romt a1418-story-bcsciencespaceheliosdc.html This might even satisfy Gordy. Regis RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
Where I live if a bad guy a run the 100 yard dash in under 6 seconds and catch a football they give him a hemlet and make him a hero. Sad but true. Kristopher Tulsa, OK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet. In a message dated 9/13/2001 5:37:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would rather relinquish my pocket knife than have any weapons on the plane. Where I live, if the bad guy can't run 850' per second, he has a problem. :-) Bill G. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
In a message dated 09/13/2001 4:37:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which 10%? That would mean the terrorists would have been allowed weapons also. I would rather relinquish my pocket knife than have any weapons on the plane. Kick 'em in the balls. If the passengers would have known what we know now, they would have rushed them all together - can't rush an automatic weapon that easily. T Phil wrote: Gun control? What if only 10 % of the folks on those doomed flights were packin heat? We just need to retrain the terrorists in the proper use of guns. The long, pointy end goes in your mouth, and then you work that lever, trigger thingy with your toe... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Image
I just purchased a 2nd hand 2M Image but did not get any documentation. I have sent the person from whom I bought the plane but I suspect he has not been on line in the last few days. I have also sent a message to Mapleleaf but they have not answered. Does anyone have the documentation that lists the control surface setup and the CG? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Hijack Prevention
- How can we make sure, or at least fairly sure, this won't happen again? Silly as it sounds, why not put sling shots and steel marbles in every seat? Individually not much damage can be done, but passengers as group could subdue a few individuals with knives. This or any other majority rules type weapon would help, and reduce the risk of harm to the passengers (sling shot has some range). Supplemental bats to finish off the job might help as well. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
Gun control? What if only 10 % of the folks on those doomed flights were packin heat? Is a pressurized cabin at 33,000 feet the appropriate place for any gun totin' redneck to be 'packin heat'? I think not, and your raising the issue hear shows your lack of true consideration for the ramifications of such an assinine suggestion! Bob Johnson Fond du Lac, WI RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Different Subject??
In a message dated 09/13/2001 6:42:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles Miller wrote: We could talk about how the F3J team selection was run? Yes, any suggestions on improving the FAI team selection programs are always welcome. We still have some room for putting together a better team... until we finish 1,2,3 at the worlds. 8---snip Haveing a good flight without a official timer made into a reflight? It always helps to have your own unofficial timer. Usually the CD will accept that if there is a problem with the official time. We really ought to have two official timers for each pilot, but where would you find them all? After we get two official timers for every pilot we can then work on having a field large enough so that every team has an exclusive 200 meter circle to operate in...(or maybe a giant turntable to set the field into the wind) I would propose that we have turn signals on our planes to signal lane changes, but I'm guessing nobody would use them... 8-snip Hey, no one is bitching about the voice on the official clockMaark Now that you mention it, how about a count down to the start of prep time? And while I'm at it, a word of caution to nobody in particular. Remember, only one helper within 15 meters of the landing spot. I know that the towers can come up and help spot and call, but when the move is made to the landing spot, only one helper can go along! Bill Wingstedt I only sucked for 5 flights! The other 8 were pretty good! And, I was nailing landings! I'll be back too! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Signal shift
Hello, How are the different radios shifted? Are Airtronics and JR positive and Hitech and Futaba Negative? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Artemis K/C for Sale (New in Box)
Fellow Soaring Enthusiast, I have a brand new Artemis K/C for sale. I have just received this kit a few weeks ago, after waiting for months. This is my very first hollow molded ship and after inspection, I realized that I could never fly it at my slope flying site. There are just to many rocks and I would destroy it on landing. Live and learn. I have not done anything to it. It still lives in the box. It sports a custom paint job (blue, red and white). I would just like to recover my investment of $850.00. The Artemis is an all molded thermal duration or F3J glider. Evolution of the very popular Hera, the Artemis KC (kevlar/carbon)(F3J) received some technical improvements. The Hera has great handling and is very hard to beat in thermal duration contests, it also has the best value to performance ratio on the market. The Artemis retrieves the best from the Hera and adds the following features: The center panel now has one degree of dihedral. The wing saddle integrates the wing to the fuse more aerodynamically. The tips feature a very subtle curved shape. Premolded servo pockets, can receive JR341 or similar servos. Top exit for the flap linkage, leads to a stiff and very accurate flap control. The tail attachment has been modified to ease the control attachment. One ballast tube standard. Longer nose to ease balance with less lead. If anyone is interested in this excellent kit, please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Thanks. For a picture of the exact color scheme check out this web site: http://www.modellbau-pollack.de/shop/f3j/images/tatana2-big.jpg RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
