Re: [RCSE] Best TD ship
I was about to ask a similar question, but adding a couple of points that will reduce the choices: -I can´t afford to pay more than $350, and -It has to be a european model, or an american one that is easily available in Europe. Thanks in advance Juan Spain I know that this will probably get a heated discussion going, but I need to start saving for a TD ship for next season, and there are alot of choices out there. What is the best all around competition TD ship out there? And what are your opinions of it. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For my Quiver, I have an Artemis ( did have 2; sold 1) From Tom Copp @ F3X.com, Have flown one since Last years Vsalia, VERY Nice plane additionally I fly the Cobra Lite, RNR Melleniumn and a Sailaire 8-) I used to fly this RES Airplane from a Chicago Manufracturer, but I can't seem to remember what it was...8-) Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF President LSF Level IV Loveland, OH From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gregory Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED], RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Best TD ship Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:25:37 -0500 Greg, If you want to go with a composite bagged plane versus a moldie, I would highly recommend the SchpotDorker Lite that Sal at NSP sales. The quality is as good as any of the moldies in it's price range and it builds very light. I built the one that Jim Bacus has in his quiver and it came in around 55oz ready to fly. It has a standard cruciform tail which is good for landing accuracy, plenty of size for being able to be seen far away and it appears to be very strong for as light as it is. I know Jim really loves his. Jim flys a lot of the same contests is sounds like you will be flying at so I know it will work for your area. I myself am a moldie kind of guy and am very partial to the planes from Jaro Muller, i.e. the Escape, Ellipse 4, the Esprit, etc. For your choice of staying with bagged wings I know you would not be disappointed with the SchpotDorker Lite. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: Gregory Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [RCSE] Best TD ship O.K. I got a few suggestions, however some of them were quite general. I'm looking for specifics. What are some of you good pilots flying, and why. Some suggested buying a composite model that will launch high. Thats great, but give me some names. I plan on going all out on the contest circut next year, and I want a plane I won't be dissapointed with. I will be flying in the southeast (Ohio, KY, TN, GA, AL you get the picture). I like the idea of a composite ship, instead of a moldie, but I'm open to suggestions. I have my eye on the Psyco, Addiction, Chicago Wind. I am currently flying an old Alcyone, and can do well with it. I have been flying for a while (off and on for 20 years), but I'm getting into contests a little more seriously, and want a good all around ship. Hope this will narrow things down a bit. You may respond directly to me if you like. Thanks, Greg RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Best TD ship
This is an evil thread... just go buy a model, learn to fly it and have fun with it! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you for your comments. I have some good ideas now, and I will be saving my $$ for a new ship for next season. Greg RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jim; While the definition of who's to be included in the Captain America classification (only two names come to mind) has yet to be explained, there are any number of extremely successful pilots that campaign only one TD glider. As an example, I've flown the same glider for the last 18 months and it's my only glider. I'll probably be flying the same glider a year from now unless I'm convinced there's something considerably better available. My percentage of wins and places through approximately 30 contests has been extremely gratifying and wouldn't have improved if I'd used several gliders. Through approximately 120 rounds, I've never missed a flight time (yes, there were many 10, 12 and 15 minute rounds) and landing scores have been the only determiner of my eventual contest placing. If consistent excellence is your goal, I think a strong case can be made for getting to know how your glider flies in all conditions and coping as necessary as opposed to selecting the right glider for existing conditions. Of course, I fly in SOCAL where conditions never get really extreme. If I flew in the Midwest as you do, I'd probably share your view. Who would have thought that the biggest advantage to living in SOCAL was to save several thousand dollars in backup gliders? Fred RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Best TD ship
I like the idea of a composite ship, instead of a moldie, but I'm open to suggestions. I have my eye on the Psyco, Addiction, Chicago Wind. I am currently flying an old Alcyone, and can do well with it. I have been flying for a while (off and on for 20 years), but I'm getting into contests a little more seriously, and want a good all around ship. Hope this will narrow things down a bit. This all sounds very familiar. I've only flown 3 open class planes, so I'll just tell you what I'm flying and how I like it. I've got the Sage wings (blended 7035-36-37) and Addiction fuselage that Gordy used to fly. He mentioned that there would be a new fuselage in production this Fall that should be better than the old one. I'm not sure if anyone knows the status of that fuselage development, but I'm happy with how my ugly plane flies for now. - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Best TD ship
Greg, If you want to go with a composite bagged plane versus a moldie, I would highly recommend the SchpotDorker Lite that Sal at NSP sales. The quality is as good as any of the moldies in it's price range and it builds very light. I built the one that Jim Bacus has in his quiver and it came in around 55oz ready to fly. It has a standard cruciform tail which is good for landing accuracy, plenty of size for being able to be seen far away and it appears to be very strong for as light as it is. I know Jim really loves his. Jim flys a lot of the same contests is sounds like you will be flying at so I know it will work for your area. I myself am a moldie kind of guy and am very partial to the planes from Jaro Muller, i.e. the Escape, Ellipse 4, the Esprit, etc. For your choice of staying with bagged wings I know you would not be disappointed with the SchpotDorker Lite. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: Gregory Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [RCSE] Best TD ship O.K. I got a few suggestions, however some of them were quite general. I'm looking for specifics. What are some of you good pilots flying, and why. Some suggested buying a composite model that will launch high. Thats great, but give me some names. I plan on going all out on the contest circut next year, and I want a plane I won't be dissapointed with. I will be flying in the southeast (Ohio, KY, TN, GA, AL you get the picture). I like the idea of a composite ship, instead of a moldie, but I'm open to suggestions. I have my eye on the Psyco, Addiction, Chicago Wind. I am currently flying an old Alcyone, and can do well with it. I have been flying for a while (off and on for 20 years), but I'm getting into contests a little more seriously, and want a good all around ship. Hope this will narrow things down a bit. You may respond directly to me if you like. Thanks, Greg RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Gregory Morris wrote: What is the best all around competition TD ship out there? Greg, A number of people have asked this question in the past. Very often the replies advise that repairing moulded sailplanes is difficult or impossible, and I see that you have been advised that way as well. I don't agree. I have been unfortunate enough, or incompetent enough, to suffer five serious crashes with moulded sailplanes over the past several years. Four of them were easy to repair, one was a write-off. The first time I crashed a moulded model I was certain it was a write-off. Fortunately a couple of those present advised me how to approach the repair task and I was surprised how easy it turned out to be. My Pike Plus was soon ready to fly again. It flew as well as ever, and looked nearly as good as ever. I wrote a short article, on the repair methods I used, for our club Newsletter, and I can send you a copy if you are interested. The point of the article was not that I was an expert at repairs, but that I could achieve a good repair despite lack of expertise and experience. I have found it easier to repair moulded wings than veneered foam or wooden ones. I have no experience with glass over foam repairs. In moulded wings the glass or carbon skins are a sandwich stabalised by a thin core of either balsa or foam sheet, usually balsa. All the repairs I have done have been on wings that used balsa. I think that those that use foam would be little different, providing suitable adhesives are used, but I have no experience of them. I suspect that most of those who say repairing moulded wings is difficult have not tried it. Judging by the advertising in US magazines moulded models are quite a bit more expensive than those that use other construction methods. The situation is a little different in Australia. There are a couple of locally produced kits, with balsa veneered foam wings, that are quite good for competition flying and are reasonably cheap, but they are also becoming outdated. Due to freight costs and exchange rates, sailplanes from the USA are now about the same price as the Eastern European moulded models. Consequently most people prefer the moulded designs, or the low cost local products, and sailplanes from the USA become rarer each year. Of course you must take initial cost, and patriotism, into account in your decision, and that may lead you to choose a design with a foam cored wing, but don't let fear of repairs be the reason not to buy a moulded plane. *** Ian RoachKiama, NSW Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone: 61 2 4232 1775 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
