Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-16 Thread ivan t
I have Max / Maya and Softimage from 2010 to 2013 running on VMWare on
Windows. It is working fine for most usage with exception to what Chris
mention (Hardware graphics card)

Softimage also works on in linux / VMWare :)

-Ivan
ivan@nospam.autodesk.com (please remove nospam)


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, it does support hardware 3d acceleration as well as virtual box


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.comwrote:

 Vmware doesn't support hardware graphic card.
 Has anyone else using Parallels instead?

 Anyway, it's possible to run Softimage Linux on a vmware.

 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Halim Negadi
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:55 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: VM-Ware

 While working within linux environments, I personnally find more
 enjoyable using Softimage running in a windows VM than the linux version
 itself.
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.commailto:
 hneg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on vmware
 workstation 9 running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1 under ubuntu 12.04
 amd64.
 Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in the schematic
 than in actual viewports ), it's definitely workable and has decent
 performance.
 A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor acceleration is
 enabled in the bios and in the vm configuration to have maximum display and
 computing performance running your vms.

 The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in VMs was in
 parallels desktop though,
 Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing  windows 7 64 sp1
 using parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

 Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme (
 http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux because it's
 slightly expensive and only supported on redhat based distos as we stick on
 debian based ones over here.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean 
 emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote:
 To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't
 for the faint of heart.

 VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite
 bad. VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I
 run windows at home anymore.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2)
 and my VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

 Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue
 for you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.commailto:
 b...@exocortex.com wrote:
 Hi Alan,

 No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
 Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
 special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
 required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
 that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
 of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
 maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

 Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
 VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
 developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
 configurations.

 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113tel:613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter:
 @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.




 --
 Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX
 Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer
 ** Freelance for hire **
 www.genecrucean.comhttp://www.genecrucean.com

 ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com
 http://www.genecrucean.com/ for any personal emails. Thanks. I may not
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Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-16 Thread Halim Negadi
What do you guys mean by Hardware Graphics Card ?
Of course, the VM won't see you hardware graphics as it is but VMware will
expose it through it's own driver which does provide a hardware accelerated
opengl. This driver comes with the vmware tools you have to install in your
VM.
The only thing the vmware driver won't be able to handle is the high
quality viewport. Except from that, we have pretty decent display
performance over here.

Another alternative is VirtualBox, it's free and it comes also with a
hardware accelerated display driver. The display performances are even
better than the VMWare ones but it's a little buggy with softimage for now.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:38 AM, ivan t ivansoftim...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have Max / Maya and Softimage from 2010 to 2013 running on VMWare on
 Windows. It is working fine for most usage with exception to what Chris
 mention (Hardware graphics card)

 Softimage also works on in linux / VMWare :)

 -Ivan
 ivan@nospam.autodesk.com (please remove nospam)


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, it does support hardware 3d acceleration as well as virtual box


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.comwrote:

 Vmware doesn't support hardware graphic card.
 Has anyone else using Parallels instead?

 Anyway, it's possible to run Softimage Linux on a vmware.

 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Halim Negadi
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:55 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: VM-Ware

 While working within linux environments, I personnally find more
 enjoyable using Softimage running in a windows VM than the linux version
 itself.
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.commailto:
 hneg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on vmware
 workstation 9 running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1 under ubuntu 12.04
 amd64.
 Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in the schematic
 than in actual viewports ), it's definitely workable and has decent
 performance.
 A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor acceleration is
 enabled in the bios and in the vm configuration to have maximum display and
 computing performance running your vms.

 The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in VMs was in
 parallels desktop though,
 Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing  windows 7 64 sp1
 using parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

 Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme (
 http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux because it's
 slightly expensive and only supported on redhat based distos as we stick on
 debian based ones over here.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean 
 emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't
 for the faint of heart.

 VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite
 bad. VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I
 run windows at home anymore.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2)
 and my VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

 Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue
 for you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.commailto:
 b...@exocortex.com wrote:
 Hi Alan,

 No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
 Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
 special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
 required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
 that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
 of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
 maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

 Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
 VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
 developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
 configurations.

 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113tel:613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter:
 @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.




 --
 Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX
 Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer
 ** Freelance for hire **
 www.genecrucean.comhttp://www.genecrucean.com

 ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com
 http://www.genecrucean.com/ for any personal emails. Thanks. I may not
 get them at this address. ~~







Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-16 Thread Rob Wuijster
Talking about virtual machines, anybody already played with MS upgrade 
to Virtual PC; Hyper-V?


Now this is included in W8pro, it could be an alternative as well to 
VMWare and VirtualBox.



Rob

\/-\/\/

On 16-1-2013 13:06, Halim Negadi wrote:

What do you guys mean by Hardware Graphics Card ?
Of course, the VM won't see you hardware graphics as it is but VMware 
will expose it through it's own driver which does provide a hardware 
accelerated opengl. This driver comes with the vmware tools you have 
to install in your VM.
The only thing the vmware driver won't be able to handle is the high 
quality viewport. Except from that, we have pretty decent display 
performance over here.


Another alternative is VirtualBox, it's free and it comes also with a 
hardware accelerated display driver. The display performances are even 
better than the VMWare ones but it's a little buggy with softimage for 
now.


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:38 AM, ivan t ivansoftim...@gmail.com 
mailto:ivansoftim...@gmail.com wrote:


I have Max / Maya and Softimage from 2010 to 2013 running on
VMWare on Windows. It is working fine for most usage with
exception to what Chris mention (Hardware graphics card)

Softimage also works on in linux / VMWare :)

-Ivan
ivan@nospam.autodesk.com mailto:ivan@nospam.autodesk.com
(please remove nospam)


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com
mailto:hneg...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, it does support hardware 3d acceleration as well as
virtual box


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Chris Chia
chris.c...@autodesk.com mailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote:

Vmware doesn't support hardware graphic card.
Has anyone else using Parallels instead?

Anyway, it's possible to run Softimage Linux on a vmware.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
Behalf Of Halim Negadi
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:55 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: VM-Ware

While working within linux environments, I personnally
find more enjoyable using Softimage running in a windows
VM than the linux version itself.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Halim Negadi
hneg...@gmail.com
mailto:hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.com
mailto:hneg...@gmail.com wrote:
Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on
vmware workstation 9 running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1
under ubuntu 12.04 amd64.
Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in
the schematic than in actual viewports ), it's definitely
workable and has decent performance.
A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor
acceleration is enabled in the bios and in the vm
configuration to have maximum display and computing
performance running your vms.

The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in
VMs was in parallels desktop though,
Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing
 windows 7 64 sp1 using parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme
( http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux
because it's slightly expensive and only supported on
redhat based distos as we stick on debian based ones over
here.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean
emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com

mailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
mailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote:
To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in
general isn't for the faint of heart.

VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance
wise it's quite bad. VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my
home machine. It's the only way I run windows at home anymore.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman
alan.fregt...@gmail.com
mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.commailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com
mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on
Linux (CentOS 6.2) and my VMWare VM is virtualizing
Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that
was the issue for you? I never tried that as we use

Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-16 Thread Chris Chia
Video cards are supported in Parallels... If and only if you have 2 cards in 
your system, cos you could set one to be used by Parallels.



On 16 Jan, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Halim Negadi 
hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.com wrote:

What do you guys mean by Hardware Graphics Card ?
Of course, the VM won't see you hardware graphics as it is but VMware will 
expose it through it's own driver which does provide a hardware accelerated 
opengl. This driver comes with the vmware tools you have to install in your VM.
The only thing the vmware driver won't be able to handle is the high quality 
viewport. Except from that, we have pretty decent display performance over here.

Another alternative is VirtualBox, it's free and it comes also with a hardware 
accelerated display driver. The display performances are even better than the 
VMWare ones but it's a little buggy with softimage for now.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:38 AM, ivan t 
ivansoftim...@gmail.commailto:ivansoftim...@gmail.com wrote:
I have Max / Maya and Softimage from 2010 to 2013 running on VMWare on Windows. 
It is working fine for most usage with exception to what Chris mention 
(Hardware graphics card)

Softimage also works on in linux / VMWare :)

-Ivan
ivan@nospam.autodesk.commailto:ivan@nospam.autodesk.com (please 
remove nospam)


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Halim Negadi 
hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, it does support hardware 3d acceleration as well as virtual box


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Chris Chia 
chris.c...@autodesk.commailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote:
Vmware doesn't support hardware graphic card.
Has anyone else using Parallels instead?

Anyway, it's possible to run Softimage Linux on a vmware.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 On Behalf Of Halim Negadi
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:55 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: VM-Ware

While working within linux environments, I personnally find more enjoyable 
using Softimage running in a windows VM than the linux version itself.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Halim Negadi 
hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on vmware workstation 9 
running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1 under ubuntu 12.04 amd64.
Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in the schematic than in 
actual viewports ), it's definitely workable and has decent performance.
A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor acceleration is enabled in 
the bios and in the vm configuration to have maximum display and computing 
performance running your vms.

The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in VMs was in parallels 
desktop though,
Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing  windows 7 64 sp1 using 
parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme ( 
http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux because it's slightly 
expensive and only supported on redhat based distos as we stick on debian based 
ones over here.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean 
emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't for 
the faint of heart.

VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite bad. 
VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I run 
windows at home anymore.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman 
alan.fregt...@gmail.commailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.commailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.commailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2) and my 
VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue for 
you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston 
b...@exocortex.commailto:b...@exocortex.commailto:b...@exocortex.commailto:b...@exocortex.com
 wrote:
Hi Alan,

No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us

RE: VM-Ware

2013-01-15 Thread Chris Chia
Vmware doesn't support hardware graphic card.
Has anyone else using Parallels instead?

Anyway, it's possible to run Softimage Linux on a vmware.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Halim Negadi
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:55 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: VM-Ware

While working within linux environments, I personnally find more enjoyable 
using Softimage running in a windows VM than the linux version itself.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Halim Negadi 
hneg...@gmail.commailto:hneg...@gmail.com wrote:
Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on vmware workstation 9 
running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1 under ubuntu 12.04 amd64.
Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in the schematic than in 
actual viewports ), it's definitely workable and has decent performance.
A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor acceleration is enabled in 
the bios and in the vm configuration to have maximum display and computing 
performance running your vms.

The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in VMs was in parallels 
desktop though,
Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing  windows 7 64 sp1 using 
parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme ( 
http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux because it's slightly 
expensive and only supported on redhat based distos as we stick on debian based 
ones over here.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean 
emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote:
To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't for 
the faint of heart.

VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite bad. 
VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I run 
windows at home anymore.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman 
alan.fregt...@gmail.commailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2) and my 
VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue for 
you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston 
b...@exocortex.commailto:b...@exocortex.com wrote:
Hi Alan,

No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
configurations.

--
Best regards,
Ben Houston
Voice: 613-762-4113tel:613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: 
@exocortexcom
http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.




--
Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX 
Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer
** Freelance for hire **
www.genecrucean.comhttp://www.genecrucean.com

~~ Please use my website's contact form on 
www.genecrucean.comhttp://www.genecrucean.com/ for any personal emails. 
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Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Ben Houston
I find that Softimage and other 3D apps work well in VMs when the VM
is running a Windows OS.  But I've had no success running Softimage
and other 3D applications in a VM when it is running Linux.

These days I prefer VirtulaBox over VMWare, but that is a personal
preference thing.

Best regards,
-ben

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G.
(LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi yall,



 I’m interested in knowing if anyone is successfully using Softimage, and in
 general all other CGI apps you might be using, in a VMWare instance?  If so
 are there any caveats one should be aware of?



 --

 Joey Ponthieux

 LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)

 Mymic Technical Services

 NASA Langley Research Center

 __

 Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

 represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.





-- 
Best regards,
Ben Houston
Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.



Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Alan Fregtman
I've had the opposite experience. At work we have VMWare on Linux and it
runs Softimage and other AD softwares just fine.



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote:

 I find that Softimage and other 3D apps work well in VMs when the VM
 is running a Windows OS.  But I've had no success running Softimage
 and other 3D applications in a VM when it is running Linux.

 These days I prefer VirtulaBox over VMWare, but that is a personal
 preference thing.

 Best regards,
 -ben

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G.
 (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote:
  Hi yall,
 
 
 
  I’m interested in knowing if anyone is successfully using Softimage, and
 in
  general all other CGI apps you might be using, in a VMWare instance?  If
 so
  are there any caveats one should be aware of?
 
 
 
  --
 
  Joey Ponthieux
 
  LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
 
  Mymic Technical Services
 
  NASA Langley Research Center
 
  __
 
  Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
 
  represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
 
 



 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.




RE: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Ben,

Thanks, that’s sounds promising.  Do you know if there are any particular 
hardware configuration requirements? I guess the thing I'm most concerned with 
is hard disk capacity and speed. 

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) 
Mymic Technical Services 
NASA Langley Research Center
6 E. Taylor St.
B1244 R216A MS254
Hampton, VA, 23681
Phone: 757-864-6754
EMail: j.ponthi...@nasa.gov
www.mymic.net
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ben Houston
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:40 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: VM-Ware

I find that Softimage and other 3D apps work well in VMs when the VM is running 
a Windows OS.  But I've had no success running Softimage and other 3D 
applications in a VM when it is running Linux.

These days I prefer VirtulaBox over VMWare, but that is a personal preference 
thing.

Best regards,
-ben

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G.
(LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi yall,



 I’m interested in knowing if anyone is successfully using Softimage, 
 and in general all other CGI apps you might be using, in a VMWare 
 instance?  If so are there any caveats one should be aware of?



 --

 Joey Ponthieux

 LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)

 Mymic Technical Services

 NASA Langley Research Center

 __

 Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

 represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.





--
Best regards,
Ben Houston
Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom 
http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.




Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Ben Houston
Hi Alan,

No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
configurations.

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Best regards,
Ben Houston
Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.


Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Ben Houston
Hi Joseph,

I'd always recommend running an SSDs.  We put our VMs on our SSDs as
well (we generally give each VM a 100GB virtual disk, which takes up
less than 100GB of real space) but disk space isn't a huge concern for
us because we keep are large data on a fileserver.

Video drivers are slower on VMs generally I have found, but maybe Alan
Fregtman has a real solution to that as well. :-)

Best regards,
Ben Houston

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G.
(LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote:
 Ben,

 Thanks, that’s sounds promising.  Do you know if there are any particular 
 hardware configuration requirements? I guess the thing I'm most concerned 
 with is hard disk capacity and speed.

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 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ben Houston
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:40 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: VM-Ware

 I find that Softimage and other 3D apps work well in VMs when the VM is 
 running a Windows OS.  But I've had no success running Softimage and other 3D 
 applications in a VM when it is running Linux.

 These days I prefer VirtulaBox over VMWare, but that is a personal preference 
 thing.

 Best regards,
 -ben

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G.
 (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi yall,



 I’m interested in knowing if anyone is successfully using Softimage,
 and in general all other CGI apps you might be using, in a VMWare
 instance?  If so are there any caveats one should be aware of?



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 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.




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Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.



Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Alan Fregtman
I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2)
and my VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue for
you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,

 No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
 Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
 special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
 required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
 that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
 of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
 maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

 Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
 VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
 developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
 configurations.

 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.



Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Gene Crucean
To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't
for the faint of heart.

VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite
bad. VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I
run windows at home anymore.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2)
 and my VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

 Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue
 for you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.



 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,

 No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
 Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
 special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
 required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
 that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
 of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
 maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

 Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
 VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
 developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
 configurations.

 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.





-- 
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Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer
** *Freelance for hire* **
www.genecrucean.com

~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com for any
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Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Halim Negadi
Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on vmware
workstation 9 running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1 under ubuntu 12.04
amd64.
Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in the schematic than
in actual viewports ), it's definitely workable and has decent performance.
A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor acceleration is
enabled in the bios and in the vm configuration to have maximum display and
computing performance running your vms.

The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in VMs was in
parallels desktop though,
Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing  windows 7 64 sp1
using parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme (
http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux because it's slightly
expensive and only supported on redhat based distos as we stick on debian
based ones over here.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean
emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote:

 To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't
 for the faint of heart.

 VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite
 bad. VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I
 run windows at home anymore.


 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2)
 and my VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

 Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue
 for you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.



 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,

 No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
 Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
 special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
 required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
 that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
 of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
 maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

 Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
 VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
 developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
 configurations.

 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.





 --
 Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX
 Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer
 ** *Freelance for hire* **
 www.genecrucean.com

 ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com for any
 personal emails. Thanks. I may not get them at this address. ~~



Re: VM-Ware

2013-01-14 Thread Halim Negadi
While working within linux environments, I personnally find more enjoyable
using Softimage running in a windows VM than the linux version itself.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Softimage 2011/2012  2013 works like a charm over here on vmware
 workstation 9 running windows 7 workstation x64 sp1 under ubuntu 12.04
 amd64.
 Except from a few harmless display bugs ( more often in the schematic than
 in actual viewports ), it's definitely workable and has decent performance.
 A very important thing is to make sure vmx processor acceleration is
 enabled in the bios and in the vm configuration to have maximum display and
 computing performance running your vms.

 The most succesfull and stable attempt to run softimage in VMs was in
 parallels desktop though,
 Very stable with almost no display bugs virtualizing  windows 7 64 sp1
 using parallels desktop  7 on osx lion.

 Never got the chance to test parallels workstation extreme (
 http://www.parallels.com/products/extreme/ ) on linux because it's
 slightly expensive and only supported on redhat based distos as we stick on
 debian based ones over here.


 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Gene Crucean 
 emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be fair though... getting Softimage running on Linux in general isn't
 for the faint of heart.

 VirtualBox is cool... it's free and all. But performance wise it's quite
 bad. VMWareFusion is quite speedy on my home machine. It's the only way I
 run windows at home anymore.


 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Alan Fregtman 
 alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think there's been some confusion... At work I'm on Linux (CentOS 6.2)
 and my VMWare VM is virtualizing Windows 7, where Softimage runs swimmingly.

 Was it a VM virtualizing Linux and running Softimage that was the issue
 for you? I never tried that as we use Linux natively here.



 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,

 No way?  You mean you have a VM running Softimage on Linux?  What
 Linux OS are you running inside of the VM?  Did you do anything
 special to get it running?  I've wasted countless hours try to get the
 required video card drivers to work on Linux inside of a VM.  I think
 that cumulatively Exocortex has lost at least a couple of whole days
 of effort trying to get to work over the last couple years -- but
 maybe things got better with recent version of Softimage / VMWare?

 Someone should make a webpage that describes the steps for VMWare or
 VirtualBox as that is a huge thing, especially for us plugin
 developers.  We've been forced to buy additional PCs or do dual boot
 configurations.

 --
 Best regards,
 Ben Houston
 Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom
 http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.





 --
 Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX
 Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer
 ** *Freelance for hire* **
 www.genecrucean.com

 ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com for any
 personal emails. Thanks. I may not get them at this address. ~~