Re: [spamdyke-users] Spamdyke 3.1.5 corrupts attached images

2008-02-06 Thread Andreas Galatis
Hi,

i compared the attachments (corrupt/original), the corrupted was a bit bigger 
(4283889  corrupt/ 4283862 OK)


Andreas
Am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 09:03 schrieb Hartmut Wernisch:
 On 05 Feb 08, Sam Clippinger wrote:
  I'm still working on this bug -- several people have sent me full logs
  and test messages; those are helping a lot.  I haven't succeeded in
  duplicating corrupted attachments yet though.
 
  I did find one bug that might be causing this issue.  At this point, I
  don't think it has anything to do with TLS (although TLS may make it
  easier to trigger the bug).  What I've found occurs when a client sends
  its data in a large burst and disconnects without waiting for the
  server's responses.  Under the right conditions, spamdyke can duplicate
  up to 4K of the end of the data.  I'm still looking -- there may be more
  bugs lurking.

 As I can remember my corrupted image was a little bit smaller than the
 original (some k's for a 1.9MB file) ...
 Maybe I have time to test it again...

 -hartmut
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[spamdyke-users] Spamdyke passes partial emails to qmail after timeout

2008-02-06 Thread Chris Robinson
Hi Everyone,

I run mail servers for about 30 companies (qmail /spamdyke 3.1.0 / Fedora
2.4.21) and started experiencing a problem whereby some users complained
that they could send an email and it was received by the recipient corrupted
multiple times in varying sizes until eventually the final version would
arrive correct in full. To cut a long story short I eventually tracked it
down from a string in a user's Outlook log Talk faster next time. A google
revealed all. It wasn't coming from qmail but from spamdyke, which explained
why I couldn't grep it in the qmail source.

I've probably fixed it by setting idle-timeout-secs=1200. But what worries
me is why the recipient got anything except the final good email. If
spamdyke issues that 421 error then breaks the connection, the user's
Outlook can justifiably assume that the email won't have been accepted by
the server, nor sent to the  recipient. But what seems to happen is that the
part that has been received down the pipe so far has been passed by spamdyke
to qmail-smtpd which has passed it to qmail-queue and thence to the local or
remote recipient. Surely no 250 OK 123 qp 456 has come out of qmail?

Is this a spamdyke issue or a qmail issue?

Cheers,
Chris Robinson



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Re: [spamdyke-users] Spamdyke passes partial emails to qmail after timeout

2008-02-06 Thread Sam Clippinger
Most likely, this is a virus/spam filter issue.  Some qmail 
installations pass the incoming email to Spamassassin or ClamAV before 
acknowledging the delivery.  When that happens, spamdyke's idle timeout 
can trigger a disconnection if the scanner takes too long (this is 
common for large attachments).

The best way to be sure is to enable full logging (with full-log-dir) 
and examine the logs for disconnected deliveries.  The log will contain 
timestamps that will show long each response was delayed.

Of course, it's also possible you've found a bug. :)  In that case, I'll 
need to find a way to reproduce it, so I may need you to (privately) 
send me a few full logs along with details of your spamdyke configuration.

-- Sam Clippinger

Chris Robinson wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I run mail servers for about 30 companies (qmail /spamdyke 3.1.0 / Fedora
 2.4.21) and started experiencing a problem whereby some users complained
 that they could send an email and it was received by the recipient corrupted
 multiple times in varying sizes until eventually the final version would
 arrive correct in full. To cut a long story short I eventually tracked it
 down from a string in a user's Outlook log Talk faster next time. A google
 revealed all. It wasn't coming from qmail but from spamdyke, which explained
 why I couldn't grep it in the qmail source.
 
 I've probably fixed it by setting idle-timeout-secs=1200. But what worries
 me is why the recipient got anything except the final good email. If
 spamdyke issues that 421 error then breaks the connection, the user's
 Outlook can justifiably assume that the email won't have been accepted by
 the server, nor sent to the  recipient. But what seems to happen is that the
 part that has been received down the pipe so far has been passed by spamdyke
 to qmail-smtpd which has passed it to qmail-queue and thence to the local or
 remote recipient. Surely no 250 OK 123 qp 456 has come out of qmail?
 
 Is this a spamdyke issue or a qmail issue?
 
 Cheers,
 Chris Robinson
 
 
 
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Spamdyke passes partial emails to qmail after timeout

2008-02-06 Thread Hartmut Wernisch
I hade customers which got emails again and again in spamdyke version
prior to 3.1.4. The maximum timeout I have been setting was 600.
Whitelisting didn't help.

Version 3.1.4 of spamdyke fixed this behaviour for me. Maybe because of
the changes of sendrecv in release 3.1.4?

On 06 Feb 08, Chris Robinson wrote:
 Maybe I didn't express myself properly. Spamdyke was timeing out the
 connection perfectly correctly because the client was inactive for more than
 60 seconds which was spamdyke's default idle timeout. So the client's
 Outlook sees the disconnection and retries, often resulting in another
 partial copy of the same message. That is why I've probably fixed it by
 setting idle-timeout-secs=1200, which should handle even the slowest
 clients.
 
 But it's not the cause, it's the effect that concerns me. The partial
 message received before the disconnection (e.g. 50 Kb of a 200Kb email) has
 been piped to qmail-smtpd which then actually delivers it. How could
 qmail-smtpd deliver a message that has not been properly terminated? Does
 spamdyke simply close the pipe to qmail-smtpd, as would happen if
 qmail-smtpd were connected directly to the client and qmail-smtpd initiated
 the timeout?
 
 Somehow a fundamental principle of SMTP MTAs is being breached, namely that
 an incomplete session will never result in delivery, local or remote, of a
 partial message.
 
 My details:
 
 xinetd.d
 -
 server = /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
 server_args = -Rt0 /usr/local/bin/spamdyke -f
 /usr/np/mail/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpdauth
 /var/qmail/bin/checkpassword /bin/true
 
 Clamav and Spamassassin are only run after qmail-local pipes it to procmail
 via the .qmail file, so they can't be affecting the issue. Of course neither
 of those programs are run when the recipient is remote and qmail-remote
 handles it. But even remote recipients are receiving multiple, partial
 copies of the same message
 
 Cheers and thanks for the response,
 Chris Robinson
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 18:11
 Subject: Re: [spamdyke-users] Spamdyke passes partial emails to qmail after
 timeout
 
 
  Most likely, this is a virus/spam filter issue.  Some qmail
  installations pass the incoming email to Spamassassin or ClamAV before
  acknowledging the delivery.  When that happens, spamdyke's idle timeout
  can trigger a disconnection if the scanner takes too long (this is
  common for large attachments).
 
  The best way to be sure is to enable full logging (with full-log-dir)
  and examine the logs for disconnected deliveries.  The log will contain
  timestamps that will show long each response was delayed.
 
  Of course, it's also possible you've found a bug. :)  In that case, I'll
  need to find a way to reproduce it, so I may need you to (privately)
  send me a few full logs along with details of your spamdyke configuration.
 
  -- Sam Clippinger
 
  Chris Robinson wrote:
   Hi Everyone,
  
   I run mail servers for about 30 companies (qmail /spamdyke 3.1.0 /
 Fedora
   2.4.21) and started experiencing a problem whereby some users complained
   that they could send an email and it was received by the recipient
 corrupted
   multiple times in varying sizes until eventually the final version would
   arrive correct in full. To cut a long story short I eventually tracked
 it
   down from a string in a user's Outlook log Talk faster next time. A
 google
   revealed all. It wasn't coming from qmail but from spamdyke, which
 explained
   why I couldn't grep it in the qmail source.
  
   I've probably fixed it by setting idle-timeout-secs=1200. But what
 worries
   me is why the recipient got anything except the final good email. If
   spamdyke issues that 421 error then breaks the connection, the user's
   Outlook can justifiably assume that the email won't have been accepted
 by
   the server, nor sent to the  recipient. But what seems to happen is that
 the
   part that has been received down the pipe so far has been passed by
 spamdyke
   to qmail-smtpd which has passed it to qmail-queue and thence to the
 local or
   remote recipient. Surely no 250 OK 123 qp 456 has come out of qmail?
  
   Is this a spamdyke issue or a qmail issue?
  
   Cheers,
   Chris Robinson
  
  
  
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